Of course. He's the reason they were close to begin win. Lamar was the reason they lost in the playoffs. The defense pitched a shut out in the 2nd half and lamar could muster 10 points with 2 turnovers. It's not even a debate this chick is just a race hustler
Career playoff stats: Josh Allen 21 TD passes 4 INTs, Lamar Jackson 6 TD passes 6 INTs and lost to Allen head to head scoring 3 points, throwing a pick six and getting knocked out of the game
Yes!! It's insane that a 2-time MVP doesn't have even MORE criticism for his playoff performances. Josh has never been the problem in the playoffs. He plays his best in the big games. Lamar doesn't. The Bills defense, ST, & coaching has been the problem. Meanwhile, the Ravens have a super bowl winning head coach & their defense the past few years has been among the best in the league. Their defense showed up in the AFC Championship last season, Lamar and the offense didn't.
I feel like we squashed the 13 seconds loss with the 12 second win against Detroit . If ya wanna trade accolades Josh Allen is alone at the top with the only QB in NFL History to have a rushing.passing.and receiving touchdown
It's hilarious that these pundits say, "no one thought the Bills were going to be any good this year" but if you're from Buffalo (or a fan of the Bills) you knew that wasn't the case. You knew that losing Diggs was only going to help the team because of the toxic environment that had sprung up around him in the last year. He was so great when he was great but he needed the focus to be on him and that's why he had to go...this Bills team is a true TEAM and Josh Allen knows and knew that. Once Diggs was gone, it opened up the field to the rest of the team and Josh makes sure that everyone eats. Buffalo believed in the Bills...it was everyone else (mostly NFL pundits) who didn't.
Answer to Basically, you are so right!! They are doing everything they can to keep him from MVP such a sad state of affairs. I am so sorry for Josh and the team, they work so hard 😢
Ridiculous how they go back and forth about "can't keep moving the goalposts", yet when Josh Allen outplayed Mahomes as he has in two playoff meetings. Josh didn't lose those games. He was let down by the kicker and the defense. Everyone acts like a QB wins SBs all by themselves, getting all the credit for wins. Better QB elevates his team, not like Mahomes who has throughout his career benefits consistently by an excellent defense, excellent weapons and the best Offense minded HC in the league.
She dont know what shes talking about ..she always says the samething...just because he aint won a championship doesnt take his greatness away ...get her off the show please
It's clear and straightforward, ma'am. Josh Allen has delivered outstanding performances in 10 playoff games, yet the Bills have still fallen short. Conversely, we have Lamar Jackson, a two-time MVP who has struggled to play well in the playoffs
Great Job Steven A.! She does not know what she is talking about... respectively. It's about the standard and that standard and their beating record against the Champion Team (Chiefs). It is not about have they been a Champion. Champion Team can be beat or not is the standard. My Wife doesn't watch football much and she tries to make a point about whose ever been a Champion.
Lamar is terrible in the post season he’s got more to prove mvp is a regular season accolade I’m sure he would rather perform in the playoffs over winning a mvp award
It's a team game and Josh has never been the reason for a Bills playoff loss. Lamar gets more criticism because he chokes in big games. Buffalo 's coach has lost more playoff games than Josh
If basing QB greatness on Super Bowl wins alone, as she esposes, does Kimberly think Trent Dilfer ranks as a better quarterback compared to Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Dan Marino, Dan Fouts, Jim Kelly, Phillip Rivers and so on?
This bills team is different. Josh has 10 people per game catching balls. 3 rb's, and the best offensive line. Not to mention josh has back to back 4,000 yard seasons and lamar has 1 i thin
If Josh was black she wouldn’t say a word. The fact that ESPN lets their anchors race bait constantly is why their ratings suck. Give Josh the Chiefs defense with Andy Reid and he’d have 5 rings. He’s the most talented QB in the league and has been for 5 years.
Fake news + DEI hires = ESPN With that being said, Stephen A Smith has definitely grown on me over the years. I don't always agree with him but I do like the guy and think it would be cool to have a beer with him and talk sports.
Difference is Josh could not do anything more than what he has done to progress in sb. Allen has the best TD/int in nfl post season history. Lamar has more turnovers than TDs. Burrow isn’t as bad as Lamar but nowhere near as impressive as Allen in post season. It’s not even close. Allen’s defense gives up on average over 10 ppg more in post season than Lamar’s ravens or Burrows bengals. That’s why Allen doesn’t have a ring. I believe in Allen’s 5 post season losses Allen has 2 int and both were when Buffalo was already down 2 losses. Lamar has repeatedly contributed to his team losing in the post season. Are you kidding Lamar gets judged unfairly? He won MVP last year with 800 less yards and 15 less TDs 🤦♀️
The weak efforts at mental conditioning by some of these commenters is amusing in it's own right. When she expresses her disagreement and offers her perspective, regardless of whether others support it or not, she is accused of playing the race card. Psychological analysis tends to resonate only with those who are insecure. Perhaps it’s the entitled individuals who believe that whatever narrative they promote is inherently true.
How can they talk about Lamar not balling in the playoffs 🤣🤣 did they all go blind last year??? Zay flowers doesn’t taunt or fumble, Lamar would be in the superbowl lmaooo I think sports analysts forget it’s a TEAM SPORT and not 1 dude out there. Take away gronk from Tom Brady and I bet he wouldn’t have as many rings as he does. Lamar is a 2x mvp and Josh Allen should get criticized as much as him for taking Ls 🤣🤣🤣 no rings for any of them other than Patrick. Lamar barely lost last year and they wanna talk about Allen barely losing lmaooo this is too funny
Probably because Allen has never scored less than 24 poibts against the Chiefs, If Allen had that Ravens Defense from last year the Bills go undefeated
@ Allen has always had the WRs and his defense is always decent 🤣 Lamar basically went undefeated with it and we lost because zay fumbled bro lmaooo Allen has 0 rings too remember
@@oscarbsantana4178 Allen always has a fake good defense. When they play good Offenses they suck always have (see playoff performances). Allen has had one good WR: Diggs. Lamar has always had a better defense and has had: Andrews plus Brown and now Flowers.
@ brown was absolutely buns in playoffs 🤣 all of Lamars WRs have dropped wide open in playoffs lmaooo Allens #2 wr would be our #1 and idk man bills beat us because of their defense before 💯
@@oscarbsantana4178 Bills WRs dropped the entire game against the Chiefs last year so I feel your pain. Flowers fumlbing into the endzone was definitely the worst. Was it the Bills Defense or was it the wind storm? I'm not even being a smartass: that game sucked for both Lamar and Allen because passes futher than 15 yards were practically impossible
It’s interesting to see how some men respond to women speaking confidently, especially in debates, by resorting to insults. But here's the thing-what they're really reacting to isn’t the content of the conversation, it’s the strength of the energy behind the women’s voices. Sometimes, the fear of feminine power is so deeply embedded in our culture that it gets projected outward, disguised as criticism or mockery. But think about it: when society teaches women to be quiet or less than, there’s a discomfort when we stand strong, speak out, and hold our ground. And maybe, just maybe, it’s not the women who need to change; it's the perspective that needs to shift. There’s power in understanding that the discomfort some feel is about challenging old patterns, not about the women themselves. I say this as someone who’s been a diehard Bills fan, a lifelong competitive athlete, and who grew up with all guys. I played on a baseball team with all men, and not once did they treat me differently. I was respected for my knowledge, my passion, and my skill. So, I’m curious-what kind of experiences did you have growing up? I truly hope that, somewhere along the way, you find those amazing women to talk sports with, so you're not just stuck in that sausage fest alone in your man cave.❤
Why the F is she talking about the NFL!? F'ing beat it. So stupid.....ESPN sucks. TSN in Canada is the same. Tons of women calling, talking about the NHL. Im sorry but 95% of fans DO NOT want that.
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Basically what she's saying josh is white and Lamar black
Lmfao exactly
Yeah, because if Josh was Black he’d already have 2 MVP’s
Rolling her eyes
yea race matters with her can see it BUT thats espn trademark now why their ratings disappeared
I guess she's playing the Race card
A 2 time MVP should have bigger expectations. Flat out, he hasn't played better than Josh in the playoffs.
Allen has had the "benifit" of having several other worldly plays during other worldly performances while on Prime Time?
@@lesmoore3638*benefit*
…The More You Know.
How is this chick even trying to argue this point when two people are pretty much shutting it down with facts
@@42freshness she’s a stan who doesn’t deal in facts
It’s a team sport and coaching decision sport Allen was not why they lost those games
Of course. He's the reason they were close to begin win.
Lamar was the reason they lost in the playoffs. The defense pitched a shut out in the 2nd half and lamar could muster 10 points with 2 turnovers.
It's not even a debate this chick is just a race hustler
The difference is, Lamar has horrible playoff numbers, Josh ‘s defense lets him down
These women have no business being on here..this is why ESPN as lost so many viewers
You need to be very smart and sharp to debate Steve A, and those two women aren't at his level!
Allen produces in the playoffs. Lamar hasn’t. Bills D fails him every year. Big difference
I feel as though i've lost brain cells after watching this video. my god who hired these women?
Shes just arguing for no reason...
Allen has never crumbled in the playoffs. His head coach has.
Career playoff stats: Josh Allen 21 TD passes 4 INTs, Lamar Jackson 6 TD passes 6 INTs and lost to Allen head to head scoring 3 points, throwing a pick six and getting knocked out of the game
Yes!! It's insane that a 2-time MVP doesn't have even MORE criticism for his playoff performances. Josh has never been the problem in the playoffs. He plays his best in the big games. Lamar doesn't. The Bills defense, ST, & coaching has been the problem. Meanwhile, the Ravens have a super bowl winning head coach & their defense the past few years has been among the best in the league. Their defense showed up in the AFC Championship last season, Lamar and the offense didn't.
Thank you Stephen A
Hello the Bills were 13 seconds from the Super Bowl.
@@josejusino6171 you mean afc championship
@@truesenate6703 😂
RIGHTTT
Lemme guess you a chiefs bandwagon clown
I feel like we squashed the 13 seconds loss with the 12 second win against Detroit . If ya wanna trade accolades Josh Allen is alone at the top with the only QB in NFL History to have a rushing.passing.and receiving touchdown
It's hilarious that these pundits say, "no one thought the Bills were going to be any good this year" but if you're from Buffalo (or a fan of the Bills) you knew that wasn't the case. You knew that losing Diggs was only going to help the team because of the toxic environment that had sprung up around him in the last year. He was so great when he was great but he needed the focus to be on him and that's why he had to go...this Bills team is a true TEAM and Josh Allen knows and knew that. Once Diggs was gone, it opened up the field to the rest of the team and Josh makes sure that everyone eats. Buffalo believed in the Bills...it was everyone else (mostly NFL pundits) who didn't.
"Diva" Diggs leaving Buffalo is the best thing that happened to the Bills in this season!
Answer to Basically, you are so right!! They are doing everything they can to keep him from MVP such a sad state of affairs. I am so sorry for Josh and the team, they work so hard 😢
Geez, Stephen rescued Dog and her. She has no clue and he is ready to call her an idiot.
All the cuts ESPN made and she survived ???? 🤦🤦🤦🤦
Women
Ridiculous how they go back and forth about "can't keep moving the goalposts", yet when Josh Allen outplayed Mahomes as he has in two playoff meetings. Josh didn't lose those games. He was let down by the kicker and the defense.
Everyone acts like a QB wins SBs all by themselves, getting all the credit for wins. Better QB elevates his team, not like Mahomes who has throughout his career benefits consistently by an excellent defense, excellent weapons and the best Offense minded HC in the league.
How did Kim get this job?
Boy looking at Kimberly roll her eyes when Steven A said Josh Is getting MVP wow😮
Josh Allen is my MVP
Kimberly doesn’t know what she’s talking about. Josh Allen has always played well against Pat Mahommes. His defense hasn’t.
Thank you.
She dont know what shes talking about ..she always says the samething...just because he aint won a championship doesnt take his greatness away ...get her off the show please
WHY has Lamar been MVP twice?
@@shelleyking8450 because he's black. That's it
@@shelleyking8450 he’s the first running back to win it twice
Lmao. He shouldn’t have won last year.
It's clear and straightforward, ma'am. Josh Allen has delivered outstanding performances in 10 playoff games, yet the Bills have still fallen short. Conversely, we have Lamar Jackson, a two-time MVP who has struggled to play well in the playoffs
Great Job Steven A.! She does not know what she is talking about... respectively. It's about the standard and that standard and their beating record against the Champion Team (Chiefs). It is not about have they been a Champion. Champion Team can be beat or not is the standard. My Wife doesn't watch football much and she tries to make a point about whose ever been a Champion.
If Allen was black he would have won MVP 4 times now
mvp isn't playoffs. why does she keep saying it. Lamar would have 0 mvps on playoffs
I can read Steve A Smith mind! I bet he thinks "¿Should I just shut the mouth of this two ladies?"
Good for Stephen
Lamar is terrible in the post season he’s got more to prove mvp is a regular season accolade I’m sure he would rather perform in the playoffs over winning a mvp award
Why is she arguing like that…… 🧐 quite strange
It's a team game and Josh has never been the reason for a Bills playoff loss. Lamar gets more criticism because he chokes in big games. Buffalo 's coach has lost more playoff games than Josh
If basing QB greatness on Super Bowl wins alone, as she esposes, does Kimberly think Trent Dilfer ranks as a better quarterback compared to Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Dan Marino, Dan Fouts, Jim Kelly, Phillip Rivers and so on?
This bills team is different. Josh has 10 people per game catching balls. 3 rb's, and the best offensive line. Not to mention josh has back to back 4,000 yard seasons and lamar has 1 i thin
Oh man Im never clicking this. Stupodoty ever again
My god
Just seems like this is the year for Allen to win Super Bowl. Anything short of that will be major disappointment for Allen and Bills.
well if they can shore up that defence they have a good shot
The sexism is astounding. Have any of you ever listened to Nick Wright or Skip Bayless?
You can tell they hired her as a DEI hire.
The eye rolling says it all !
We most THE WHOLE 🌎 COUNTED US OUT
If Josh was black she wouldn’t say a word. The fact that ESPN lets their anchors race bait constantly is why their ratings suck. Give Josh the Chiefs defense with Andy Reid and he’d have 5 rings. He’s the most talented QB in the league and has been for 5 years.
Quarterbacks play against the other teams defense. Been watching football a long time and i've yet to see the quarterbacks play against each other.
If there is someone who’s been critized is JA, he even started this season as the most overrated player lol
Yo SA was TALKIN!! 🗣️💯💯
Josh Allen is on a different level than mahomes
Fake news + DEI hires = ESPN
With that being said, Stephen A Smith has definitely grown on me over the years. I don't always agree with him but I do like the guy and think it would be cool to have a beer with him and talk sports.
You guys are forgetting Josh and the bills are young they can possibly 3peat if they can keep the team together
Since when did QB's start playing defense?
Lamar’s playoff numbers suck, Josh’s don’t
Did josh allen dropped diggs pass..missed field goals..this girl is clueless
Get that girl off that table lmao wtf
Lamar is not even close to ja17 .....Josh is best qb nfl ever seen
Allen should of won mvp last yr
Difference is Josh could not do anything more than what he has done to progress in sb. Allen has the best TD/int in nfl post season history. Lamar has more turnovers than TDs. Burrow isn’t as bad as Lamar but nowhere near as impressive as Allen in post season. It’s not even close. Allen’s defense gives up on average over 10 ppg more in post season than Lamar’s ravens or Burrows bengals. That’s why Allen doesn’t have a ring.
I believe in Allen’s 5 post season losses Allen has 2 int and both were when Buffalo was already down 2 losses. Lamar has repeatedly contributed to his team losing in the post season.
Are you kidding Lamar gets judged unfairly? He won MVP last year with 800 less yards and 15 less TDs 🤦♀️
I'm just here for the Asian crafts
The world is too woke. Listing to women talks sports hurts my head 🤨
Do Lamar shrink or does his team and coaches let him down??
Burrow and tua have all the weapons. Allen doesn’t. Even Lamar has more weapons now
The weak efforts at mental conditioning by some of these commenters is amusing in it's own right. When she expresses her disagreement and offers her perspective, regardless of whether others support it or not, she is accused of playing the race card. Psychological analysis tends to resonate only with those who are insecure. Perhaps it’s the entitled individuals who believe that whatever narrative they promote is inherently true.
Look at Allen playoff numbers and lamar
Girl in the purple has horrible takes and is hard to listen to
Just up josh vs Lamar playoff stats...
Josh Allen has da worst team on paper den every team tlked about in dis segment
This woman…oh my goodnesss…..
How does the black lady has a job 😂
Is that Kimala ? She just doesn't get it !
Lamar hasn't done nothing but won 2 times MVP
Lamar also played Allen in the playoffs and lost
Women talking sports. Like a hillbilly lecturing at Oxford. Thankfully, Smith put her in her place.
Bills got to beat kc in the playoffs to get to the superbowl
This woman is like the Kamala Harris of the sports world... lots of similarities.
Lamar is treated unfair u crazy ..buffalo going sb
These women are pathetic
How can they talk about Lamar not balling in the playoffs 🤣🤣 did they all go blind last year??? Zay flowers doesn’t taunt or fumble, Lamar would be in the superbowl lmaooo I think sports analysts forget it’s a TEAM SPORT and not 1 dude out there. Take away gronk from Tom Brady and I bet he wouldn’t have as many rings as he does. Lamar is a 2x mvp and Josh Allen should get criticized as much as him for taking Ls 🤣🤣🤣 no rings for any of them other than Patrick. Lamar barely lost last year and they wanna talk about Allen barely losing lmaooo this is too funny
Probably because Allen has never scored less than 24 poibts against the Chiefs, If Allen had that Ravens Defense from last year the Bills go undefeated
@ Allen has always had the WRs and his defense is always decent 🤣 Lamar basically went undefeated with it and we lost because zay fumbled bro lmaooo Allen has 0 rings too remember
@@oscarbsantana4178 Allen always has a fake good defense. When they play good Offenses they suck always have (see playoff performances). Allen has had one good WR: Diggs. Lamar has always had a better defense and has had: Andrews plus Brown and now Flowers.
@ brown was absolutely buns in playoffs 🤣 all of Lamars WRs have dropped wide open in playoffs lmaooo Allens #2 wr would be our #1 and idk man bills beat us because of their defense before 💯
@@oscarbsantana4178 Bills WRs dropped the entire game against the Chiefs last year so I feel your pain. Flowers fumlbing into the endzone was definitely the worst. Was it the Bills Defense or was it the wind storm? I'm not even being a smartass: that game sucked for both Lamar and Allen because passes futher than 15 yards were practically impossible
We're waiting see Lamar go past first round playoffs....nuff said Lamar never beat kc Lamar is overrated
Kimberley is terrible lol
Lamar is 2-4 ]playoffs trash jus a good regular season qb at best
DEI female hires
Steven A is trash
It’s interesting to see how some men respond to women speaking confidently, especially in debates, by resorting to insults. But here's the thing-what they're really reacting to isn’t the content of the conversation, it’s the strength of the energy behind the women’s voices. Sometimes, the fear of feminine power is so deeply embedded in our culture that it gets projected outward, disguised as criticism or mockery.
But think about it: when society teaches women to be quiet or less than, there’s a discomfort when we stand strong, speak out, and hold our ground.
And maybe, just maybe, it’s not the women who need to change; it's the perspective that needs to shift. There’s power in understanding that the discomfort some feel is about challenging old patterns, not about the women themselves.
I say this as someone who’s been a diehard Bills fan, a lifelong competitive athlete, and who grew up with all guys. I played on a baseball team with all men, and not once did they treat me differently. I was respected for my knowledge, my passion, and my skill.
So, I’m curious-what kind of experiences did you have growing up? I truly hope that, somewhere along the way, you find those amazing women to talk sports with, so you're not just stuck in that sausage fest alone in your man cave.❤
Talk about prejudice wow wtf
Smith is always wrong about everything. It’s laughable.
Why the F is she talking about the NFL!? F'ing beat it. So stupid.....ESPN sucks. TSN in Canada is the same. Tons of women calling, talking about the NHL. Im sorry but 95% of fans DO NOT want that.