Was I WRONG About Digital Circus?
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Fun fact: In english Jax said "I'm so unbelievably disappointed right now" but in french he said the meme "my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined", how nice. 😂
They should have used the French one in both!
That would have been so good in the English version too
when he said that he's disappointed in the English version, I immediately wished he had said the meme 😂
I swear I saw this exact comments in three different videos
That is golden but I'm disappointed it wasn't in the English version too that would have made it so much funnier :(
I think people exaggerated Jax's behavior in this episode. It's not like he suddenly became something he's not. He has always been an asshole.
He does have one moment of saving Kinger and the ribbon guy in episode 1 from basically guaranteedly being kaufmo'd. Which is consistent with him in this episode briefly looking sad over Kaufmo's funeral.
Yeah but now he's not just an asshole, he's also a Murderhobo.
MY CONTENT IS WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY BETER THEN DIGITAL CIRCUS
YFGA IS THE BEST AND BETTER THEN TADC.
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YFGA IS THE BEST AND BETTER THEN TADC.
That's why I love him so much. He's a terrible person I wouldn't be able to stand in real life, but he's fun to watch
Being disappointed that Jax isn't the "Secretly Troubled" trope after the creator went on record multiple times to unambiguously say shit like *"He's Chaotic Evil"* and *"He deserves to be at the circus"* is crazy. A character can be likable AND a totally irredeemable jerk at the same time
It's so weird for people act like that as if there weren't all the opne villains people liked because they are fun. Jax doesn't even need to be a villain, or even an antagonist. Entertaining jerks who can have secret soft sides but still are jerks are fun!
People acting like he got worse when in Ep.2 he was sad for Kafumo for at least a second while in 1 he ditched Ragatha and Pomni when he just abstracted.
@@fruitloops2058Ajax was probably good friends with Kaufmo… even back in episode 1, after Jax catches up with Gangle and Kinger, he has a somewhat distraught expression, before returning to his usual “look at me I’m a hugh jass” mood
Yea. I love a good jerk character that the story analogies as a jerk. Case in point Daffy Duck
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I love how people are so disappointed that Jax has no redeeming moments in this episode, so they desperately grabbed on to the split second where he looked a little sad. 😂
I mean, imagining that he has more to him is way more interesting than otherwise
@@donkeykong3628 Yeah, idk why people are so desperate to make him a weak caricature of evil and selfishness. I think that people are turning on interesting villains because they have black-and-white moral views and the concept of a complex motive is too much thought for them
@@donkeykong3628he obviously will have more to him later (look at his facial expressions when UT came to Kaufmo's funeral; he's obviously suppressing his feelings)
It's just people like"likeable jerk characters" until they show actual jerk qualities 💀
@@donkeykong3628he probably is, but so far, all we have is the split second of him being sad. People may headcanon all they want, but this doesn't change the fact that so far, he has almost no moments of not being a jerk.
I am getting flashbacks to the RWBY fandoms absurd obsession with Adam Taurus the racist, murderous, terrorist who was introduced as such, never once showed any signs that he was anything more than that, and yet still plenty of fans decided he was secretly a super cool anti hero and that the writers ruined him by having the audacity of maintaining a consistent fully villainous character arc for him.
It's a curse of character design, if you make a neat looking character and then let the fans stew on not much information for too long then they are gonna theory craft and fan fiction their way into hating whatever winds up actually being canon if it proves their ideas wrong.
jax is literally a gta player that gladly runs over pedestrians when its funny, i like him being an asshole with out a clear heart behind himself. embrace the chaos, cause the chaos.
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Same, i love asshole characters. I don't want redeemable all the time, sometimes i just want my fucked up lil guys.
EXCELLENT WORK. THE AMAZING DIGITAL CIRCUS EPISODE TWO REVIEW SARCASTIC CHORUS
that's not a bad way to look at it actually haha. I just don't like him because all of his lines are insanely cringey now😷 like "ooh violence" that's some primary school humour 😭😭
@@sabrinamioch2683reminder that jax is the youngest in the cast, I’m same age as him and yes I like doing weird sht on the internet
It’s funny how people are saying Jax is different now because as someone who watched the pilot, did not engage with the fandom, and then watched episode 2 he seems the exact same to me
Agree. And he’s funny. I had no clue people were even mad about a “difference” I had no clue about lol
Yeah, I'm surprised people are mad now. I mean... even if he changes, it wouldn't be at episode 2.
Right? Like he literally abandoned Ragatha and Pomni to deal with Kaufmo alone
Yeah, twitter morons think Jax is too unlikeable and a psychopath. But I'm pretty sure he's already that in ep 1
but he is different. he went from
pushing gangle over, insulting people, and insinuating that he put centipedes in Ragatha's room to
attempted murder, threatening people, and blackmail.
these are not the same and i dont know how people think these are anywhere close to the same
You’re not alone in the “there’s nothing wrong with it, it just don’t click for me” train. This has happened to me SOOOO many times, I swear. Sometimes I get into a series or cartoon that is very well written, but I can’t really connect with it in the way it’s expected and it feels like I’m just nodding along as the plot goes. And honestly, that’s normal, it just means that it isn’t something that you’re vibing with currently. Sometimes it’s personal preference, other times it’s because of personal stuff going on in your life, it happens and it is okay. You’re not obligated to like something just because other people do. Just go with whatever is in your heart!
full metal alchemist imo
It was only fairly recently I started getting more into TADC, and most of it I can really credit to IRL friends opening my eyes a little more. Hazbin Hotel is another case of this, where I can see the appeal, but personally... it's just not quite my thing. Not that it's bad - not at all - just not really my vibe, personally.
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This was me with the Barbie movie! It sucks cause I literally got told by one person that they’re surprised I didn’t like it because I’m also a woman and questioned if I was really a feminist.
No girl I think it’s because I grew up with the animated Barbie movies and I just couldn’t go with the vibe they were going for with the movie. It just felt very Hollywood to me and a bit bland near the end. Still a good movie I just didn’t click with it like if someone wanted to watch it with me I would but I wouldn’t go out of my way to see it again unlike other movies.
@@starlightcoomI know the feeling, I like click for some reason with helluva boss and hazbin hotel despite how flawed both shows are
Yet I can't clicks with tadc just yet, thus far is really good but I just don't clicks with it, my brain is weird
Goose has stated on twitter multiple times that Jax is SUPPOSED to be hated
She's said things like "he's the one that deserves to be there”, “he’s chaotic evil”, and “he’s gonna do something unforgivable later in the show”
My farts are better than Sarcastic Chorus' farts.
Sadly, with the six month gap between episodes, many fans have come up with their own ways of developing Jax's character. Which are pretty good from what I've seen so far.
I REALLY hope we don't have another Chloe from Micracolus Ladybug case here......
@@DrawciaGleam02How exactly? The fans may had come with interesting views on Jax, but if this was never the intention, then it isn't the shows fault if Jax ended up being different than people expected. Chloe is different, we saw her changing in season 2, we saw her being portraied in a more positive way and having a start of a redemption arc, only to season 3, 4 and 5 destroy that.
Boy.....Really.....Hope Not.....Hope not Too Much.....Really.....
@@flowerdaisystar9593my theory is that Jax, at some point, will inadvertently cause one of the characters to abstract, thus giving him some form of guilt over it, which feeds more into his violent and destructive nature.
Candy Queen: Have fun executing that bandit
Pomny: Yes we are definitely going to do that
Cain: oh yes we are
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You're aughing! A man died today and you're laughing!
@@shadowguarder2857yes, yes i am
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Annnnd that's why Cain is the best character, he always sticks to a promise :D
Why did it take me 16 and a half minutes to realize by DC he meant digital circus, not DC as in the comics
I originally went with ADC to avoid this.
But then I kept saying ABC when recording😅
Feel the need to say that circle-pixel pfp is aestheticle.
@@SarcasticChorus amazing bigital circus
SAME HAHA
@@thejustlexa LOL
I honestly don’t want Jax to have any redeeming qualities until the later episodes. It’s been too long since a show has had a genuine a$$hat character that only changes when the plot demands it!
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Zakvadr. So basically you want Jax to hit rock bottom of being a horrible person. Before he ever tries to show any good in him. Am I getting this right?
You're like all those other people who want villains to be one-dimensional and pure evil
@@jamesjoe1690 too tired of the trope of the bad guy but nice deep inside, meh, i prefer if they are evil and still evil. The creator confirmed he will get worse in the next episode and only the most hardcore Jax fans will survive. I will love to see how bad he will become. I'm tired of the trope of a bad guy with reasons
@@jamesjoe1690 someone could be extremely evil but still interesting and entertaining
Example: Jack Horner and Fauler
I will say they handled the physiological horror WAY better. Instead of really trying to unsettle you instead they put characters in realistic situations that because of your feelings for them you feel the psychological torment they are going for. I think the choice to do it for an NPC was a great decision
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Gooseworx has always had a thing for doing uncomfortable horror. I'm willing to bet she saw rick and morty and say "Yeah I bet I could do the life stuff better" and made a show about accepting life for what it is.
As someone who is Nihilism and sometimes thinking too much on it that causes literally horror, this feel real, the psychology of Pomni too, either it's accept the meaningless of existence and keep on living, or that sudden mental breakdown when someone that stables your mental was gone suddenly💀
"He lives life like he's playing GTA" That would explain his obsession with violence-
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I personally think that the whole "Caine's jokes go on too long to the point where the joke doesn't hit" is kinda his gimmick, like and uncle to tells shitty jokes but you don't let him stop cause you'd feel bad. He's an AI meant to be overly wacky so he just kinda does that and it's his whole schtick.
To or who?
TADC isn't "trying too hard" because Gooseworx, the creator of the show, just isn't like that. She said it in an interview that she just got reached out, made what she liked, and hoped for it to at least get half the views as MD. She had no idea it would blow up
Also it's totally fine if you don't like a show or not enjoy it as much as many other people, the fans of the show are crazy if they think that's unacceptable (I mean most are but that's every fandom ever so yea.)
Also, edit: 5:43 I just had to point this out, I absolutely agree. Like I don't dislike him he's just not that funny imo. Too wacky, y'know?
Genuinely! I love that goosworx just does what she wants for fun. This show is just that but with a larger budget
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"She had no idea it would blow up"
Kinda funny because Goose did remixes of Undertale's OST, and Undertale's creator ALSO didn't expect Undertale would get so big as it did either!
Dude can have his opinion, but it just doesn't click how you can think this is trying too hard yet be a bigger fan of helluva boss. I'd argue that show is the kind of "trying too hard" with emotional moments, comedy, forcing drama everywhere etc. TADC has 2 episodes so I'm not as insanely over obsessed like some weirdo's, but I believe both episodes have demonstrated surperior character writing and world building. There's far more subtlety to each character and not everything is shoved in our face.
it's just the vibes we both pick up on personally with all the media we consume honestly
Gooseworx did specify on Twitter that Digital Circus isn't gonna have this huge complex lore to it, but it is gonna be centered around the characters themselves and building relationships. A character-centric show, not a plot-centric one, if that makes sense. I personally think it's awesome.
I love character deep dives.
I find it Funny how both fandoms of hazbin and digital were upset that their husbandos(Alastor/jax) were horrible people despite it being obvious that they are.
Everyone wants a hot badboy with a heart of gold; the copium mines are rich.
We were?? Man, I must be getting to good at curating my tumblr dash, all my homies love Al for being heartless and evil...
wait what? people thought Alastor, a CANNIBAL SERIAL KILLER, was....a good guy?
AHAHAHAHAA. Oh wait, you're serious, let me laugh hardr. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
@@sarafontanini7051 I think they confirmed he wasn't a cannibal just a serial killer... but he certainly is a psychopath with mommy issues...
wait, people were upset about Alastor?
Gummigoo 🤝 Sir Pentious
We gain the love of the fandom only to be eliminated in less than a second by powerful beings and rationally unstable.
At least Sir Pentious lasted multiple episodes and
(Episode 8 Spoilers)
we know that he's in heaven now and will likely still play a large role as the first rehabilitated sinner.
@@kozolith2121lets hope they do him justice and not be all over the place
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Yall are so easily attached to things.
@@waddledoo2you13sorry not all of us are sociopaths like you.
Don't torture too many puppies today
“Caine is a game designer working on crunch time”
Oh my god, imagine if he just turns into Kayaba from SAO Abridged! 🤣
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I think Caine might actually be the original designer of the game...
C&A = Caine and Abel
I'm still convinced he's an AI who took over the game and is doing the designer's job. Guess we'll wait and see.
He's got a long way to go with his movie references in that case. Not even a Mad Max quote.
@@watershipup7101 This is basically canon
Jax being an awful person was confirmed by Gooseworks a long time ago lmao, if anybody's actually disappointed in how evil Jax is, they should've known better lol
Something I really like is that they didn't try to make jax like a "bad boy" but actually made him a full on semi unapologetic antagonist
Ngl I wasn’t huge on Jax, but I kinda like him now that he’s worse. Nothing in the circus matters, and he’s cruel and callous and that keeps him sane, entertained, and emotionally distant. He doesn’t care and that keeps him from abstracting. Like he sucks so much, and that’s intriguing in the context of the circus.
I completely agree with you that the second episode was much much better than the first. The pacing was better, and this time Caine’s adventure actually felt like it served to tell us more about the characters and the world. As well as just being way more fun.
I might be reaching here, but I think that Caine's jokes are written to be semi/poorly executed because he is learning. Even in this episode he stated that the NPC will AI will be 54% more immersive THIS TIME. He is still learning comedic timing. Him spouting jokes like this is meant to add to that feeling of mental instability. The fact that your life is in the hands of something so unknowingly cruel, but trying to be goofy, is definitely something that would make most people terrified. Again, I might be reaching, but its a thought.
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@@p-__ Bot
Yeah, heard that Caine is an AI that's trying to learn human behavior.
Though at this point, I think he's been around the humans so long that he's becoming human-like himself.....albeit becoming a human that's a quirky Disney princess. 😆
Caine is honestly a perfect antagonist. He is an idiot and a caricature with nigh-unlimited power, and has little regard for anyone, I'm excited to see just how far they push his character.
Also i think his jokes are very childish because the game is for kids, so Caine was programmed to have childish jokes
In the Pilot the Queen said that "God Will Be Gloinks!" So it's nice to know who "God" Actually is.
its intresting how caine is fully willing to make Ai that is actively hostile towards him
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Cain was god in the Candy Canyon Kingdom, doesn't mean that he is god everywhere else
@@securitycheesehostage7542 Let's just assume that he is and that it's because he has a huge ego and for no other reason XD It's funnier that way.
@@randomrayquaza2044 It's probably because any AI he creates wouldn't have any reasonable way to harm him. The human characters don't die no matter how they're damaged, so the same probably applies to him too, especially given the amount of control he has.
The writers really wanted to emphasize that this is psychological horror, just in case no one got it in the first episode.
They gave me a himbo... just to take him away. I shall get my vengence.
He’s still around, but he probably won’t remember anything
@@leoultimaupgraded9914fingers crossed he just got teleported and not totally reset.
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Do you want anything for your vengeance quest?
I would like to join you in your quest for vengeance Caine did my boi so dirty
It makes me really happy that you're giving TADC a chance despite how you grilled it originally
I also like that youre able to say "This is actually really good it's just not clicking with me for some reason" because WOW is that real
From experience it can get really easy to mix "I just wasn't feeling it" vs. "This is actually hotdog water writing who wrote this"
It makes me glad that you're meeting the series halfway ^^
Also Jax fans when the jerk character is an actual jerk and not just playfully mean:
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I am a certified Jax fan. I love me a villain
I personally love that he is becoming more evil
but the way they made him more evil feels really forced for me
he went from classic school bully to serial killer overnight, I would've rathered either a steady incline into evilness, or him starting off pure evil instead of the whole "testing the waters then jumping straight into the deep end" feel they gave him
@@securitycheesehostage7542 They didn't make him more evil, nor did he become more evil, he's just like that, and uses the fact that nobody gets hurts and that the NPCs are not real people to his advantage (well, in ep 1 he basically could've doomed ragatha and pomni, tho honestly, there's probably not much he could've done), gooseworks said that 8 episodes were already scripted before the pilot, Jax did not change at all, he stayed the same, and internet influence is not changing the characters
Sappy?! You're here?!
The best way to describe jax is bender from futurama in the early seasons.
Both are assholes but we love them for being assholes. If bender was kind and nice we wouldn't care about him.
Jax is just the bender.
Jax would give his first born son to the devil
Bender had quite a few redeeming qualities. Jax is waaaay more intense. I agree though
Bender is funny unlike jax
Jax: "I'll sell you my first-born son"
Devil: "Will 2 dollars work?"
Jax: "Deal"
I deeply respect your ability to recognise when it's the show's problem and when it's just you. A few too many people just assume that if they don't like it then it's not good, which is dumb. So you take gives out positive and responsible vibes, and I love it
You could use this wack ahh logic to defend any pile of sludge. What are you on about?
@@bungiecrimes7247 no no, he's got a point. Just because one person likes something, doesn't make it good. Just because one person hates something, doesn't mean it's bad. If you don't agree with the logic, then you must assume that, despite the massive popularity of this show, the amazing digital circus is bad because this video creator doesn't like it.
@@bungiecrimes7247 you've clearly missed the point. Like Dany said, do you really think a piece is automatically bad simply because you or another person doesn't like it? No. That's illogical.
I never said you couldn't judge a piece, I'm saying that more people need to learn to tell the difference between a critique that actually improves the piece in what it's trying to be or a critique on the message vs a critique that simply serves to make the piece more palletable to the critic.
A lot of people like Twilight. It is still bad. Some people don't like Mistborn. It is still good.
I absolutely suck at telling the difference.
one thing i appreciate is that Goose herself stated, the show is 90% character moments and 10% lore, instead of the internet classic of mountains upon mountains of deep lore made solely to get nerds on the internet to obsess about even to the point of neglecting the actual piece of media and story
I think that's an exaggeration... People wouldn't be theorizing and obsessing over details if the story or piece of media wasn't interesting in the first place.
@@gradient5319 What that means is that these minor details are not meant to breadcrumb some hidden lore meaning. Don't be angry when small details become inconsistent when viewed under a microscope because there are people that do that.
@@uberculex And my point is few people neglect other aspects of a piece of media when digging up details/theorizing. And it usually becomes more intense when the story is interesting.
I feel like the way Jax acted in this episode was fine. Honestly, he was the one making things happen. Jax is always the one causing trouble or some sort of problem. If that’s not happening, there would be nothing interesting for the episode to happen. For example, he’s the one who threw Pomni out of the truck, causing her to end up under the map eventually.
And it’s not like he outright hates the other members. He just knows how to take advantage of anyone he sees, like how he was going to use the Fudge to take down the tanker by offering it access into the kingdom(if the tanker hadn’t fallen out of the sky right next to them) Jax just…happens to *always* be with the other main characters, so of course he would bully them the most.
Hazbin, TADC, Ramshackle, AND the second part of Helluva Season 2 all coming out this year?
We are eating guys
Feasting
Don't forget ep8 of Murder drones
I doubt Hazbin season 2 would be this year... Maybe at the very end if de are lucky
Tadc the goat cause not only good story telling and animation, but also lots of effort into their language dubs.
I havent seen any other indie animation aside from hazbin hotel making well made dubs.
People dont credit the dubs enough for the international success tadc has
@@lou9635rest of Helluva S2 has a trailer confirming it'll be released over the course of this year.
Hazbin has been (unintentional pun) released this January, season 2 would likely be a year or two from now
I agree with you on the front about the existential stuff not QUITE hitting the way it’s supposed to on account of genre savviness. Like, as soon as Gumigoo found the out of bounds, I immediately knew where his story was going to go, including Caine deleting him
That said, I do not think it was bad. As you said, the scene was incredibly well directed and the voice acting was on point. What felt like a bit of a (dare I say) paint-by-numbers “the AI/NPC character realises their life is a lie” scene, they executed on the delivery extremely well
I am also aware that my feelings towards the scene and Gumigoo’s eventual destruction are heavily shaded by the fact that I am used to these tropes. In fact, I have consistently hyperfixated on media that deal with these concepts for about a decade now, whether it be a main focus (Undertale, HLVRAI) or in the thematic ballpark (Portal 1+2, Homestuck, Red vs Blue)
I will say though, this is episode 2. I don’t expect Digital Circus to be pulling on the bangers right out of the gate. What I hope for, is that these scenes (Pomni’s horror in Ep 1 and Gumigoo’s revelation in Ep 2) is they act as stepping stones/set-up for more unique and developed concepts down the line
This show has the potential to go into some heart-wrenching, mind-breaking shit down the road and I am all here for it
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You know, this topic of genre savviness reminds me of SOMA.
Long story short, SOMA is a horror game about consciousness, replication, robots and experiences.
Some people have made whole muli-hour long videos or paragraphical comments on how amazing SOMA is, how it really made them think or changed their life with thought provoking questions that hit them at their core.
Others though, feel that SOMA doesn’t say anything new and that it’s not even that deep. That other things have done far more and delved far deeper (without needing an absolute idiot protagonist, for instance). To them, SOMA’s about as deep as Michal Bay’s Transformers, and about as popular too.
Neither side is necessarily “wrong”, but there’s something to be said about awareness, letting one enjoy things, and probably something about how much content we get/have nowadays.
@@zanejones6429 Oh yeah! SOMA is another piece of media I’m familiar with
Hey, same here. The whole internet is going nuts about Gumigoo's death, and here I am feeling left out because I saw the guy and thought "ooooh, he is _so_ getting companion cubed." I didn't get attached to the actual Companion Cube, either. Too busy having serious Stockholm's for GLaDOS.
@@ceinwenchandler4716 He got companion cube’d!
I like that Jax is a an asshole cuz he’s fun to hate.
Doesn’t help that the Jakeneutron song is stuck in my head.
JAXS TOY JAXS TOY-
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I've come to accept that just because something is really really good, it doesn't mean that I have to like it, and that's kind of been my journey with Digital Circus. I'm really glad it has devoted fans, as that's clearly deserved, but I don't really feel strongly about it.
0:36 BRO EVEN SARCASTIC CHORUS KNOWS ABOUT IT 😭😭😭
I live under a rock, about what? XD
@@currigodsama9589Kendrick vs Drake Beef
@@meandtheboys8486 thanks 😂
Its one of the most hilarious things to come out of 2024 after all
@@currigodsama9589 Kinger's voice actor, Sean Chiplock, being a creep. seriously, I get Glitch Productions is run by a man who cares about money more than the air he breathes, but why would Kevin hire someone with such a terrible reputation?
You don’t like it BUT you fully gave the show a fair shot.
I respect that.
I believe Gooseworx said that Jax is just an asshole. That's actually why I have a theory that Jax is an npc since apparently Caine can get confused npcs with players. Jax saw his model in the dev room and his reaction was to join the ADC and torment them for his amusement. He hates the players since they technically matter while he doesn't.
The jokes in the series can definitely improve. Take the scene where Jax tries driving the war rig and presses the horn.
"Oh God, is that the horn!? That sucks! Gangle, you drive."
Jax is an expressive enough character to show his reaction to the world's saddest horn with just the animation. I believe the scene would be a lot funnier if he just reacted to the horn and then told Gangle to drive.
Yeah agreed! I love when scenes have some stuff to interpret and realize on our own
.... but I feel like they did though. Keep watching the scene. Later in that same scene when they are leaving the town? You hear someone pressing the horn, which I think we can assume was Gangle. SHE NEVER DOES IT AGAIN. Suggesting even Gangle didn't like it, despite openly trying to use it.
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I feel like they might have tried that initially, and found not enough people realized that it was the horn that was making that sound.
Now that I think about it, Jax is just a Team Fortress 2 Spy main.
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Are you talking about Jax?
The only thing I find weird about Jax in episode 2 is that he got genuinely upset that there wasn't enough violence in the adventure. You'd think he wouldn't care by now, since he's been doing this stuff for years. I guess he needs his fix to stay "sane", and he got it in the previous episode by watching Kaufmo beat up the gloink queen but now he wants more.
i myself would like an ending like in „I have no mouth, and I must scream“ (spoilers for ihnmaims)
where jax kills the rest of the cast and freeing the rest from being stuck in the digital circus for all of eternity but himself being stuck with Caine.
Ya'll are just CRAVING that drama aren't you
"All this lazy world-building is amazing world-building."
Sarcastic Chorus : Saying, "Playing this over the sobs of Jax fans realizing there fave is a pos."
Me : But what if that's the reason I like him.
Your tears of joy will go nicely with everyone else's tears of pain and suffering
Then thank goodness at least one of the character's fans got the point of the character in the first place.
I also had the same problem with the existentialism where I just didn't Click with Gummigu's revelation that he's an npc and even in the pilot where Pomni has the realization that she's not able to go back to the real world and she's stuck as a digital clown, but I also don't get why I wasn't feeling anything during these moments.
I wonder if it's because we never really know who Pomni is before she arrives to the digital circus? So our introduction to her is already her as she is now and there's no real sense that she's really lost anything. I think she even mentioned that she doesn't really remember her own life before (though, I could be wrong about this, I haven't gone back to check...), so we don't even know what motivated her to "log in" to the digital circus. Though, this might contradict how she said she remembers how even people in the real world feel like they're nothing, so...
I guess for Gummigu, it would be the fact that we don't really see his reaction to learning he's an npc? As in, we see his reaction to piecing the dots, but I think the episode kind of skips over how he reacts to Pomni confirming that he's not "real" and all we see next is him just sitting there. He's kind of already at the depression-acceptance stage of his grief/existential crisis. Maybe I would've felt more sympathy with him if we got to see him struggling to really accept that this is what he is. Or even when he first sees the models of himself and his crew, maybe it would've helped if he tried to wake them up or talk to them instead of somewhat immediately realizing the implications of seeing the models. I don't know, I guess what I'm saying is that the emotions for the scene-- despite how tense it was with the silence-- just felt really muted for how big the revelation was.
Though, maybe this can also apply to Pomni...?
I can kind of see how the series wants to portray these moments of existential dread, but when everyone keeps on having suppressed emotions and just kind of revealing how they're breaking down in brief bursts (ie Pomni at the end of the pilot), it kind of feels like they're not really letting these characters (or at least the ones who are new to this situation) actually React to it. If that makes sense.
But I'm also not sure if this is what is exactly why I didn't connect with the existentialism. This is just the best I can think is the reason.
tbh, I honestly didn't feel strongly about the first episode, like, it was ok, but not THAT great as people made it seem to be, but this second episode made me really like it, specially because of the ending. I felt like it gave it that "unique soul" that made it theirs. Don't know if that made sense haha, but now I really want to watch where the show goes from here.
just hoping the "big goopy monsters" are not a common thing for the entire series... I feel those are weird bits that the show could do without haha
no trust me, TADC needs more big, goopy, -sexy- monsters
Well lucky for you Sarcastic Chorus, the rest of the season is all very character-driven, where Gooseworx said on Twitter that it will be 95% character stuff and the rest is lore.
So we'll probably gonna see more of the DC gang connect and grow closer, learning more about them and their potential dynamics.
I love that Jax is a jerk and doesn't care. I love a character that watches the world burn down and never hides the flamethrower they used.
I gotta say, the second episode HEAVILY exceeded by expectations.
I never got recommended the first episode by youtube so I wasn't there at the start, and when I watched the first episode just recently---honestly I was a bit disappointed. Initially I saw the view count and I thought it was a bit mediocre and didn't really deserve the 400 million views it nearly got in 6 months. But THE SECOND EPISODE genuinely hooked me beyond belief and I'm a little annoyed now that we all gotta wait another 6 months for the next episode lmao.
Anyway, I'm really excited for the episodes to come. This show is doing it right.
Who says we do considering all the money they got episode 3 might not take that long
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I think it makes sense that your not clicking with Digital Circus, I've personally watched quite a few series in which no matter how good it is it just doesn't emotionally connect with me. Something about how instead of seeing them as people struggling in situations I see them as characters going though premade arcs and tropes. I've chosen not to watch DC because I know it won't click, I think it's because I've had to deal with existential questions and have (mostly) come out the other side, so seeing characters struggle with questions I already have answers to makes me disconnect with their struggle rather that sympathize with them. (Maybe it stems from a 'been there, done that', still fighting that battle) I suspect you're having a similar problem given how you talk about what 'makes life worth living' Anyways you don't deserve hate over not clicking with something (but you already know that) and I look forward to your next review
honestly i agreed another with the first video, the pilot just didn't click for me the same way it apparently did for the wider internet. it's like what was said on this one, the feeling of "oh, I've seen this before" and it having been so played out you're just jaded. I did enjoy this episode way more and was able to see where they want to take things to. big pro for this ep was also the fact that it was set in a different location, the circus is just way too much eyestrain for me personally and i feel like that detracted from my overall experience. i am looking forward to what digital circus has to offer once they find their legs, for now i remain skeptical but optimistic.
That’s not the show fault that’s more of a you thing
@@mydogghost > "for me personally"
I audibly yelped when gummigoo was zapped. I excepted him to not be part of the main cast cause he is an npc, but just the sudden poof gone. 😢
Same...
People like redeemed characters so much that they were surprised that jax showed no redeeming qualities from day ome
i like gummigoo just as much as anyone else but, i felt the same way when he realized he was an npc and got depressed, i just couldn't emotionally connect to it, and i think i know why:
he INSTANTLY figured it out on his own and it should've taken him a little longer to realize it, or better yet, have pomni explain it all to him, i think it would've hit much harder if she broke it to him and it would've made their friendship feel much stronger
also the performative existentialism in this show is great imo, however the show does it well when it feels eerie/creepy/mysterious (example: pomni going through the exit doors and has a mental breakdown) rather than the emotional/depressing side of existentialism (example: gummigoo revelation of finding out hes an npc)
My one big criticism for episode 2 is that I wish we heard more of wat the gang said about Kaufmo instead of just the soundtrack. Idk then Pomni could say her thoughts, too. Other than that, I cant wait for ep 3 and how they'll reuse Gummigoo in a different adventure
0:35 holy jeez I cannot escape this it’s actually everywhere, hip hop hasn’t had a moment like this in a long time
0:36 "They not like us. They not like us. They not like us."
- Kendrick Lamar, May 4, 2024
Two jokes made me laugh in episode 2, the 1 was with bubble saying: ''no thanks im trying to quit'' and the second was: ''I'm gonna drink some water, havent dont that in a while!'' wich was overshadowed by caine just insta killing gumigoo
Here's a question...what if Caine THINKS he's an AI because he's been in the circus for so long? He kind of hints at this possibility when he says that bad things may happen if he loses track of who is human and who is not.
For an AI, Caine acts like a quirky Disney princess......
(only saying princess due to his role in the circus)
I've got a couple of theories... One of them is Caine is an AI who's undergone rampancy like in Marathon or Halo. He may have been created to produce code and change the game in real time but it had the negative effect that Caine was quickly able to realize he was an AI.
This might be why he doesn't want the NPCs interacting with the players. If the NPCs show the ability to be aware of their setting and circumstances they may also have the ability to go through rampancy. So Caine may want to keep them separate because he's terrified of the Circus having more than one rampant AI because then they'll start seeing themselves as human.
The other is that Caine may indeed be a trapped human. Specifically he's one of the original game developers.
C&A = Caine and Abel
Highly unlikely, the official series refers to him as an AI in descriptions and Caine was confirmed to be based off the AI in "I have no mouth and I must scream"
@@nuibaba280 Just because something is "based off" something doesn't mean the two can't move in two entirely different directions.
I definitely see the inspiration of Am in Caine but he lacks a lot of the same sadistic qualities that Am had. He seems very OCPD about his world but it feels more like him trying to keep a sense of order rather than keeping the players under his whim.
He seems to have a feeling like he's terrified of something outside of his control.
@@CollinMcLean Caine already does, he's not cruel nor hates humanity. But he's literally described as a rogue AI in the show's premise.
Who would've thought that the best actual reviewing of TADC would be coming from a skeptic of the show lol. EVERYBODY I've been hearing talk about it have just been parroting the exact same flat praise about the "depth" of their adventures stated purpose and the existentialism. I didn't expect this video to not only give REAL points about the actual characters' and Caine's depth, but also giving speculation with _reasonable takes based on concrete evidence_
Its the immmediate regret 💀
My farts are better than Sarcastic Chorus' farts.
Yes, yes you were
Dawg you didn't even watch the video 😭
Opinions are wrong
'nuff said lol
Similar to what you were saying, I couldn’t check into the existentialism of the first episode. It was a bunch of cool theatrics, but that’s all it felt like.
However the second episode finally hit the ground running with Gummigoo’s realization of his purpose. It actually got me really invested in him and his character. The show actually fooled me into thinking we would keep Gummigoo only to actually feel sad somewhat when he was deleted. (I don’t normally get attached to characters in any show lmao)
I saw a pretty good theory about Jax saying that he acts like a dick so that the entertainment can keep himself sane. That’s why he’s so disappointed at the end of the episode. Which is a pretty good character plot point in my opinion
Maybe, who knows.
I felt similarly to you with the first episode as well, like I thought it was great but I didn’t latch onto it like a lot of other people did. But that second episode holy shit-
Saw a video that talked about drama vs melodrama where it was basically drama happens because the characters actions and who they are so therefore you can relate and can understand how they are feeling since you understand them at some deeper level, where as in melodrama is more superficial and something that anybody could go through like example sheriff guy's wife got uppercutted to the moon or his partner got styled on at work 1 week before retirement that sort of stuff, so you feel more disconnected, in the first episode you don't know who pomni is or why she is there so she as character is only her context she is trapped and she doesn't want to be, kinda the same thing with npc, melodrama also hits harder when you the characters at a deeper level, like when the mc's mentor dies or the side character who was always by their side also dies or gets crippled or something
I'm also finding myself check out at the more serious moments and I can't put my finger on why. I think it might have something to do with the pacing - like, everything is moving or switching too fast and it's not giving me enough time to get emotionally invested which is why it feels so performative despite being technically done so well. Also, I think Jax is a lesson in the power of a great character design overpowering perception of their actual character.
Asking me to care about existential dread is a hard sell. I don't claim to be well adjusted, but I've long since accepted that most of our life is out of our control, there is no point beyond what we make of it, and the we die. So when I see artists go to great lengths to accurately and even beautifully portray that dread through a character's experience... well, it has no impact on me, besides feeling sorry for them. Sympathy, but no empathy, for this particular topic.
Glad that you've stuck to your guns about this show, I feel like I'm in the same place with you. I keep watching, waiting for it to click for me the same way it clearly is with so many others and it just isn't? I can see how much technical skill was put into it, but it just doesn't resonate with me at all? And every time I watch it, I feel this... sparseness to everything and I can never tell if it's in the show itself, or just my feelings towards it. Appreciate you putting yourself out there and working through it for all of us to get to engage with, even with such a rabid fan base to contend with. I feel like It helps me sort through my thoughts and feelings as well.
If Jax turns out to be the twist villain of the series, I wouldn’t be surprised.
I mean gooseworx did say he was an irredeemable jerk
The literal ONLY momemt of Jax not being a douche was him frowning for less than half a second thinking about Kaufmo. I'm hoping that whatever disaster he causes is a "wait, I'm evil" moment. It'd suit him.
I sympathize with you. Sometimes a piece of art doesn't connect to you and you can't fully explain why. It can be frustrating.
Everything you’ve said about The Amazing Digital Circus (across all videos you’ve made on the series) I agree with, like pretty much 100%
I’m glad someone else has the put it all into words
i never took Caines comedy as actual comedy, but as a warning that this thing isn't human, it doesn't understand humans and is extremely dangerous
this episode is scarily close to a rick and morty episode
I'm someone who has way too many mental issues, but a lot of them kinda tie into the show.
A lot of the others in my head wrestle with existential fears of not being real, the world not being real, their body not being theirs, not relating at all to a name that isn't theirs, or just that their memories aren't real and often struggle to adapt to reality and the horrors that come with sharing a body with 13 other people who sometimes some of them aren't the nicest to each other.
It's a situation that all of us are in together and while each might have slightly different base situations- it's all essentially just the same thing, and nomatter what, We're in it together.
These are the vibes that I feel from it and is what makes it click so well and gives us high hopes for it.
to jax change it would need a very crushing realization, if not, it would need very tragic consequences for him to change, but those consequences would change him not for the better, so is better it to be a realization of something than a catastrophe with severe consequences that might not change him and even make him be way worse as he is now just so that he could not think or care about the consequences of his actions anymore, something more and more kinda close to how kinger does, live the present and forget little by little the horrible past you lived through
Am I crazy for saying that Jax is everything Alastor is trying to be?
No you’re so right
Bc they’re actually committing to making Jax an asshole. Like no redeeming qualities (yet)
All of Jax's screentime in only two episodes has felt far more significant and memorable than just about every Alastor scene. I watched the whole show and I struggle to remember anything he actually did.
Right???
a little bit
I was feeling the same way about the existentialism…I was disconnected from it and wasn’t clicking-until Pomni made an emotional connection with Gummigo and the funeral at end of the episode. I think it’s just having enough of existential dread and nihilism and having more appreciation for the way our relationships and connections with other people combat it. “Yeah yeah none of us matters we’re not real whatever BUT I LOVE MY FRIENDS AND FAMILY AND THEY MAKE IT ALL WORTH IT DAMMIT”
That particular issue you have with it is just that existential dread doesn't bother you. Nothing wrong with that. I'm the same way, and you're right, this episode was so well done that I could appreciate the existential stuff purely from a writing perspective, even if it doesn't get to me personally.
The one aspect I'm looking forward to is the looming differences of Jax and Pomni. Jax feels like he's going to be the gung-ho "Pro-Circus" leader, given the sheer freedom he thinks it gives him. He's going to be the biggest denier of leaving, and it's hopefully an interesting character moment from him if a true exit shows up.
Pomni, on the other hand, is going to be the de-facto "Anti-Circus" character, given that she acts directly opposite to the status-quo in many ways. You can even tell by her design, given the fact she is dressed as a Jester, which was historically used to mock and critique those in charge with impunity.
I can't wait to see how this all pans out over the season, or the show overall.
14:26 🎶 Wrong wrong, you are so wrong 🎶
I have been refreshing my feed hourly, waiting for you to post this video
I never saw the original video you made. I decided to finally see the first episode of Digital Circus when the second episode uploaded. I’m glad someone else felt the same as I did, and you actually put into words how I felt by saying “trying too hard” and “performative existentialism.” I could only say “predictable” but struggled to explain how. I also enjoyed the second episode a lot better, especially for bringing out further all the elements I liked in episode one
My original problem with the circus was honestly that it diden't went as far as it could, problem that episode 2 mostly fixed to me, i still have a few issues that i will NOT get in detail because i don't want to get stabbed
I like the really pixilated Dragon Prince scenes
I think I get what you mean when you say you weren't really emotionally invested in the Gummygoo scene. I have the same feeling and I think it's just because I know exactly what kind of show this is, I've seen it before, I can't get myself to emotionally connect because I know full well that my emotional connection will get exploited by the show later on.
Honestly, the fact that gummigo immediantly went from, there are statues of me and everyone else, to I'm not real kinda took me out. It sorta feels like the leap in logic was more convinent that something that made sense. I was realed back in by "can't remember my mom" tho
I hope that gangle gets more screen time because their whole ‘masking tragedy with comedy’ gimmick hasn’t been explored at all thus far. I instantly found the idea of their character the most interesting out of the group so it’s annoying to me that the writers don’t show off that duality. Also, more Zooble. I wish that Caine made them go along or something cuz there could be a lot of funny gags that come with them not wanting to be there.
I hate being that person but Gangle is a she
Here's a nice fun fact though; episode 3 will be the Zooble episode. Confirmed by Gooseworx in GlitchX
I wouldn't say the jokes drag...but then again I'm probably just thinking about how bad family guy drags it's jokes so everything else doesn't drag in comparison.
You know, if there's one thing I /don't/ want to see it's a redemption arc for Jax. I want to see him double down on his assholery and casual cruelty until he pushes somebody's buttons hard enough that when they're on a cliff with a bunch of abstractions below, and he's teetering on the edge, somebody reaches out a hand to help... then changes their mind and pushes him.
Kane wants to be what Bill Cipher was so badly.
I think the issue you have with DC might be based in the fact that analyzing shows has become your job, so instead of being in the brain mode where you can relate to the show you instead are in the mode where you can only appreaciate the execution of the show or what it's trying to do. I take story telling and animation classes and I have the same problems with DC, I just also have it with other shows.
Sc= Sarcastic Chorus. The the problem that I had with the scene with gummy finding himself out of bounds is that, things went to fast for me and I couldn't relate(lol). I felt things of could've marinate longer besides that one scene
Fans after ep. 2: Why is Jax such a heartless monster?!
Fans after ep. 1: I love Jax! He’s such a heartless monster :D
I love how the fandom decided that Jax was so much of an asshole that he must be an NPC and not just ur average teen boy playing a video game
It takes a man to admit he was wrong,
But it takes a big boy to make a video hinting at being wrong.
Trust me, you are not the only individual where the show just didn't click.
The more I look at Caine, the more he feels like a kindergarten teacher trying to keep the kids from realizing that there's a zombie outbreak outside the building.
Like he's putting on a mask of being all hyper and jolly, but he's stressed as hell and just wants to keep everyone from going crazy. He's not good at it clearly but... y'know
What I took from Jax's personality is that he sees everything as a game, as what it may actually be. He is playing like someone play GTA and TheSims, the other characters like Regatha and Pomni are trying to find humanity in their situation, while Jax is the opposite. This goes from wanting to kill every NPC and making problems bc if he doesn't all he have is boredom, they are in an infinite loop and in his situation stagnation may be the seed for him to snap and loose it all