Was the Original God of War Trilogy as good as I remember? - A look at the games that shaped Kratos

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  • @TheSaltFactory
    @TheSaltFactory  Рік тому +366

    Thanks for watching, I appreciate it. My original office space is coming back together... slowly. Should be up and running full speed again sometime next month.
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    • @kaidorade1317
      @kaidorade1317 Рік тому +3

      Two Salt Factory videos in one month?! How can too much Salt be bad for you?

    • @sheeptime7441
      @sheeptime7441 Рік тому +1

      Super excited for this. I love your stupid voice.

    • @animalisticprik
      @animalisticprik Рік тому +1

      GoW is one of my all time favorites, I remember watching my dad play it before I was even allowed to. Super hype for this video and any other GoW content you pursue, thank you TSF.

    • @lucaspinckard3945
      @lucaspinckard3945 Рік тому

      I wish we got weekly videos from you. However I realize, along with streaming, you probably have a full time job as well.

    • @kyle857
      @kyle857 Рік тому +1

      I mean, you are not particularly good at criticism, so you might as well give a synopsis of the new ones, too.

  • @IAmBretticus
    @IAmBretticus Рік тому +514

    Your understanding of plumbing and proper pipe installation is truly inspirational. I wish more modern video games took the time to teach their players useful trade skills like Aphrodite does.

    • @Thatdoginme_m3
      @Thatdoginme_m3 Рік тому +23

      He must have learned from the master :Jonny Sins

    • @DearAnem0ia
      @DearAnem0ia 10 місяців тому +5

      Had me on the first half, not gonna lie

  • @GearShotgun
    @GearShotgun Рік тому +275

    One of my favorite moments playing GoW 3 is using the “Fear Kratos” Costume, which quadruples the damage you deal and receive. It makes the game super easy since you can kill most enemies before they hit you, but it also makes everything really cinematic, since your zipping from scene to scene in a very action movie kinda way.
    For example, the opening battle with the horse monsters goes from you whaling on them for a minute or so to them showing up and you tearing them apart in like 10-15 seconds before transitioning to the next part, which makes the whole battle feel like one seamless and continues scene.

    • @Dravianpn02
      @Dravianpn02 Рік тому +25

      On hardest difficulty without upgrades, you die in one hit a lot. I love it because of it's glass cannon nature.

    • @jenpachi2408
      @jenpachi2408 11 місяців тому +3

      Good idea for a possible stream gow3 but I'm a glass canon lol

    • @jiensayyer
      @jiensayyer 11 місяців тому +7

      You can use hercules shoulder guard item to mostly negate the damage

    • @Sneaky_racoon_sly
      @Sneaky_racoon_sly 10 місяців тому

      I am playing it on Titan right now and on chaos it of would make me insane because the game is really unfair in some points.​@@Dravianpn02

  • @ultratoons6636
    @ultratoons6636 Рік тому +917

    My favorite part about the ending of three is that Athena put hope into the box in the intention to have Kratos open it and kill zues. She was hoping to have Kratos give it to her so she could become the Supreme diety of Greece. Throughout the entire series Kratos is being used by everyone. Then he drives the sword through himself refusing to be used again.
    Love it

    • @Ronbotnik
      @Ronbotnik Рік тому +133

      honestly insanely good writing all around in the original trilogy. its a shame they get so disrespected by the Norse reboot, everyone acts like Kratos was just a sex crazed caveman with no emotions or character depth whatsoever.

    • @mortemtyrannus8813
      @mortemtyrannus8813 Рік тому +114

      @@Ronbotnik Blame game journalists for that. One of them comes out with the idea that Kratos's entire character before 2016 was "angry man kill people" and the rest of them went with it. Even after the dumbass responsible admitted to basing his claim off of playing 2016 and the demo of GoW3 *only*. Never touched the series outside of the reboot and a demo of the final game in the trilogy, yet somehow he knew the character better than people who had been playing the games since that original PS2 release.

    • @alexanerose4820
      @alexanerose4820 Рік тому +23

      @@AngelBatistaa TBF the original plan was for Odin and Ra to come in after Zeus's death because of the power vacuum it left behind and after killing the popular pantheons for Kratos to become one of the three wisemen that came to Jesus Christ.
      So, fighting an invading Pantheon while trying to live in Greece in peace would've worked. Instead we got this whole "emotional" story in Ragnarok which should've been a 2-parter. Not bad but ended up being meh compared to the first GOW 2016

    • @everythingsalright1121
      @everythingsalright1121 Рік тому +14

      Everyone hated the suicide ending in gow 3 at the time this game came out. I remember people online complaining about it so much

    • @DelCause
      @DelCause Рік тому +8

      @@Ronbotnik To be fair both mythological character of Kratos is seen as a mad-driven vessel that just kills things, he has inputs, opinions, and thoughts, but everything is run down the drain when action is required to take place. Also, the personality portrayed in the game, even though some think it is thought-provoking and deep, for the ancient Greek philosophic point of view, he is still nothing but a menace that also has the minimum amount of thinking and ethos in him.

  • @minerman60101
    @minerman60101 Рік тому +475

    You've gotta check out the two PSP spinoffs (which were ported to PS3). Their gameplay may not hold up to the best of the trilogy, but in story terms they add a lot of depth to Kratos.

    • @coldflame94
      @coldflame94 Рік тому +62

      You're wrong about the gameplay, it holds up pretty well and is really underrated in both games. They have some of the best secondary weapons in the series, new and original enemies that you can't find in the og trilogy and you can chain some crazy combos if you know what you're doing.

    • @Triptych789
      @Triptych789 Рік тому +31

      The PSP spin-offs were my introduction to the God of war series and I hold those very dear to my heart so I would love to see him check out those games also

    • @marnixmaximus3053
      @marnixmaximus3053 Рік тому +7

      I remember beating the PSP games but not the ps2 ones

    • @Dravianpn02
      @Dravianpn02 Рік тому

      ​​@@marnixmaximus3053beat the ps2 games. You're genuinely missing out if you haven't already.

    • @rodneyabrett
      @rodneyabrett Рік тому +6

      True story, I was at a GDC conference back when both God of War 3 for PS3 and Ghosts of Sparta for PSP were out. I was talking with the director of God of War 3, Stig Asmussen in an open mic discussion and brought up Ghosts of Sparta developed by Ready and Dawn and asked what he thought of the game. Without hesitation, the first thing he said was that he personally felt that Ready and Dawn made a far superior God of War game than Santa Monica did. That's some high praise for a PSP game, but I agree. I absolutely loved Ghosts of Sparta. It's probably my favorite of the older games.

  • @OhNoJoshEdits
    @OhNoJoshEdits Рік тому +297

    I’ll never forget the end fight with Aries at the end of the original God of War. I have an older brother and there used to be the cliche of “beat the boss for me bro.”
    The fight with Ares was the first time me and my brother encountered a boss that _he_ couldn’t beat. It felt like a legit irl level up when I beat him lol felt so satisfying and my older bro was so hype 😂

    • @patrickt101
      @patrickt101 Рік тому +20

      That actually sounds so awesome chief, good looks and thanks for sharing! :) makes me wish I was clutching for my lil bros like that when we played together hahaha, pretty sure I just screenpeaked them right back tho most of the times 😂

    • @DieEineMieze
      @DieEineMieze 11 місяців тому

      Bro says he never forgets the fight, but calls him Aries even after editing his comment hahahaha

    • @OhNoJoshEdits
      @OhNoJoshEdits 11 місяців тому +4

      @@DieEineMieze Ares. Who seriously cares. My bad I didn’t use the proper Greek spelling when I was stoned and left my comment. I was more or less concerned about it making actual sense. 👌🏻

    • @I_am_a_cat_
      @I_am_a_cat_ 11 місяців тому +2

      ​@@OhNoJoshEdits HOW DARE YOU

    • @brofenix
      @brofenix 9 місяців тому +1

      Daaaamn~

  • @Stormfin
    @Stormfin Рік тому +1847

    I love that Hercules was the only person Kratos actually tried to talk down.

    • @koncewiczd
      @koncewiczd Рік тому +387

      It was also neat that they got kevin sorbo to voice act him, the same guy who was famous for being hercules in the tv series

    • @resid3nt3v1l
      @resid3nt3v1l Рік тому +97

      Percius is also same actor as clash and wraith of the titans and he did thought of it as a continuation of his roles from those

    • @marcusclark1339
      @marcusclark1339 Рік тому +50

      technically he does throughout he just keeps getting the same answer (no)

    • @Hoscue
      @Hoscue Рік тому +51

      ​@@koncewiczdthe same guy who went on to make the horrendous god's not dead movies

    • @littlebird7383
      @littlebird7383 Рік тому +8

      His story is actually taken from Heracles’s story.

  • @Wolf-bz6kq
    @Wolf-bz6kq Рік тому +167

    Fun fact: originally the developers wanted kratos to die after the first game to make it feel more like a Greek tragedy but the producers thought it was too depressing (also hoping for sequel)

    • @DearAnem0ia
      @DearAnem0ia 10 місяців тому +20

      "It'd be too depressing", they said before making the most depressing story possible

    • @hannahw7023
      @hannahw7023 5 місяців тому +3

      As if Kratos didn't die and come back to life like 3 times

    • @Ale-dd3ek
      @Ale-dd3ek 3 місяці тому

      It would have been much better
      Never liked the idea of Kratos taking on Other gods because reasons
      He didn't do what he did for shit and giggles

    • @Dario-z4g
      @Dario-z4g 3 місяці тому +1

      It still is, he never got what he wanted, he still was suffering having been given just enough to keep living so he would be under the thumb of the gods with nothing else to cope with but to keep the same cicle that put him where he is

  • @yuzusauce
    @yuzusauce Рік тому +197

    I, too, bought a PS3 just to play the GoW trilogy and it was so worth it

    • @shawklan27
      @shawklan27 Рік тому +26

      Better than the new ones in my opinion

    • @urekmazino6800
      @urekmazino6800 Рік тому +8

      ​@@shawklan27ehh totally different games hard to compare them.

    • @adamzk8762
      @adamzk8762 Рік тому +1

      Emulators my friend it’s free

    • @varununofficial6967
      @varununofficial6967 Рік тому

      @@adamzk8762 Try playing GoW 3 in RPCS3, it's a nightmare

    • @homedeath4583
      @homedeath4583 11 місяців тому

      goofy
      @@shawklan27

  • @hiarus8850
    @hiarus8850 Рік тому +167

    You should definitely make videos about what you unconditionally love if you feel like it
    It might not be the most analytical content but it cannot be overstated how fun is it to hear someone gushing over what they enjoy

    • @ASpooneyBard
      @ASpooneyBard Рік тому +11

      Agreed, especially since most of the VG content these days is just anger and hatred.

    • @Dorraj
      @Dorraj Рік тому +3

      This is why a channel like CinemaWins is so much more enjoyable to watch than CinemaSins.
      The "complaints" this guy has about these games are so incredibly arbitrary that it feels like he was grasping as hard as he could about what to find to complain about. I wish there were more reviews about how fun a game is and less about trying to nitpick things they didn't like about it.

    • @finnster3276
      @finnster3276 10 місяців тому

      I agree !

    • @BigFatCone
      @BigFatCone 3 місяці тому

      @@Dorraj Wins and Sins doesn't fill the same roles though. Sins is just stupid fun while Wins is an actual analysis.

  • @OtterThunder
    @OtterThunder Рік тому +57

    I really liked the added touch of the Kraken being an amalgamation of horse and water beast, since it reflects that Poseidon was also the god of horses and the sea..

    • @Oneforgettable
      @Oneforgettable Рік тому +18

      The Kraken was the squid monster he killed in the second game, I think you mean the hippocampi from the third game?

    • @AfromanRants
      @AfromanRants 10 місяців тому

      Hippocampi and Kraken are not the same thing.

  • @darkapostate8358
    @darkapostate8358 Рік тому +322

    Perseus was indeed the same Perseus from Clash of the Titans. Same appearance, gear, and voice actor. Super cool.
    Hercules was also Kevin Sorbo. Nice. It is really cool that they went so far as to tie everything together.

    • @MultiKamil97
      @MultiKamil97 Рік тому +9

      That was Harry Hamlin? Oh damn.

    • @ASpooneyBard
      @ASpooneyBard Рік тому +14

      And Rip Torn is a crazy old weirdo with confusing motivations and methods...
      and also plays Hephaestus in GOW III.

    • @JasonBelair
      @JasonBelair 10 місяців тому +1

      lol

  • @justincider8892
    @justincider8892 Рік тому +104

    Climbing that spikey tower at the end of GoW 1 was a nightmare without getting hit once.

    • @Dood_Spooce
      @Dood_Spooce Рік тому +9

      Recently got through it on my 4th try during my recent playthrough and I felt pretty good about myself

    • @Dravianpn02
      @Dravianpn02 Рік тому +3

      Stay to the wall and climb at a diagonal angle, barely moving back and forth when needed. Move into, at an angle, to the spikes to reach a gap. That's the secret. As well as touching the wall to wait when needed. Wall won't knock you down.

    • @TheCheeseMovesSideways
      @TheCheeseMovesSideways 10 місяців тому +1

      That and the underworld is just clear bad design on their part, obviously due to the budget. Right after the amazingly perfect Pandora's Temple too which is a shame

  • @Mr.SatanicTurkey
    @Mr.SatanicTurkey Рік тому +105

    Very surprised you didn’t mention having Kratos pushing his daughter’s soul away with button smashes, I remember that being one of the most savage things I had ever seen in a game at that age

    • @sgtsmith501
      @sgtsmith501 Рік тому +51

      Not part of the original trilogy unfortunately

    • @TheFirstCurse1
      @TheFirstCurse1 10 місяців тому +4

      That wasn't in the main trilogy. It was in one of the other 3 games, either Chains Of Olympus, Ascension, or Ghost Of Sparta.

    • @Edpeb
      @Edpeb 9 місяців тому +1

      @@TheFirstCurse1it was in Chains of Olympus, when you kill Persephone (mentioned and used in GOW 3) and chained Atlas to hold the world (Mentioned in GOW 2).

  • @Ultrahuntr
    @Ultrahuntr Рік тому +134

    I usually find your videos years/months after they come out, glad to finally see one when it's fresh!

    • @axelo255
      @axelo255 Рік тому +4

      Quite literally the exact here.

    • @BabyKobeeee
      @BabyKobeeee Рік тому +1

      Lmfao just subscribe

    • @Ultrahuntr
      @Ultrahuntr Рік тому

      @@BabyKobeeee I've had YT since 06, my subscriptions mean nothing to my tastes 🤣 I love organically finding content and watching like 3 videos from the same person in a row lol

    • @SpacemarineHelldiver
      @SpacemarineHelldiver Рік тому +3

      ​@@Ultrahuntrweird flex but ok

    • @somenerd510
      @somenerd510 Рік тому

      I'm also confused regarding "My subscriptions mean nothing to my tastes" as it'd be a pretty clear indicator of the type of content you find tasteful/like.

  • @STRIKER_374
    @STRIKER_374 Рік тому +37

    I legit thought this video was just about the first game. But realizing it's about the first 3 games was the best gift I could have gotten.

  • @geofff.3343
    @geofff.3343 Рік тому +40

    The thing is that the first God of War does so well. It's set up like a classic Greek tragedy. You have a person of reputation (a Spartan captain), who succumbs to his hubris (pride in his combat, making a deal with Ares), and he learns that no matter how much of his anger he uses it will never make things right. At the end he is ultimately brought to be humble before the power of the gods and Fate, and in the end he shuffles off the mortal coil in ultimate nemesis (the punishment he deserves). It gets modern touches as modern audiences don't like Classical Tragedy so much, but it's a good structure for a game about Greek mythology.
    The second and third aren't nearly as story-tight.

  • @2ndeaster
    @2ndeaster Рік тому +19

    What I love about the original trilogy is how the world felt impossibly big even with the limitation of PS2. The elaborate room with moving gears and floor and such feels so alienating but a definite staple of the series. The cube caverns from 3 and Horse statue from 2 probably my favorite because the sheer scale of it alone.

  • @trustytrest
    @trustytrest Рік тому +56

    The one fight that stands out to me even a decade later in GoW 3 was the one where you return to the underworld temporarily and have a long, long gauntlet fight with a cerberus. When I played on Titan difficulty, it was by far the hardest boss, even more than Zeus. I don't know why that one section was so ruthless, but I don't think you even showed it in the video. Guess different strokes for different folks.

    • @erdinc2590
      @erdinc2590 Рік тому +11

      That boss was almost impossible without spamming the exiles magic attack, satyrs and cerberus is just brutal. That fight made me look up a guide on how to kill it. It id extremely easy on god and spartan mkde but on Chaos mode it was near impossinle

    • @alastor8091
      @alastor8091 Рік тому +9

      It was the Satyrs. Pain in the ass in all 3 main games.

    • @Dravianpn02
      @Dravianpn02 Рік тому

      On a PAIN run for 3, that was absolutely the hardest hurdle next to the scorpion fight where, in that run, everything one shots you because of no upgrades.

    • @malafakka8530
      @malafakka8530 3 місяці тому

      That one took me a few hours over a few days on chaos. The scorpion was equally annoying. I don't remember how long he took me, though.

  • @rezanox6699
    @rezanox6699 Рік тому +39

    God of War 1 and 2 were my favorite games I beat with my dad. I loved this game series and the memories made while playing with him, and I'm happy to see it's still as amazing as I remember it

  • @Teyovio
    @Teyovio Рік тому +456

    Every Time Salt Uploads a new video, i literally jump up in joy

  • @thecrazedgamer5767
    @thecrazedgamer5767 Рік тому +24

    God of war was literally the reason I wanted and got a PlayStation when I was a kid. Special series of games. Love em. Thanks for doing this video on it Salt. Look forward to what’s next.

  • @Mattznick
    @Mattznick Рік тому +13

    the short answer is yes they still hold up and are better games than the 2018 and Ragnorok games easily

  • @TheOneTrueMar
    @TheOneTrueMar Рік тому +29

    Honestly... for as good as the sequels (not sure how they can be viewed as reboots) were, I prefer the original trilogy. Simple story and big focus on what trully matters - gameplay. OG Kratos is great hack and slash series.

    • @Morfe02
      @Morfe02 Рік тому +3

      Is more original, like now you have the Ubisoft greek Games but you have no other Game myth telling gore and power fantasy with sex (not just "It was 2000" but because also in the myths they go crazy like this with Zeus and Heracles "i have 500 kids" )
      Norse was use like in 20 Games i would say and like 10 did right i guess

    • @victory8928
      @victory8928 10 місяців тому +2

      The original trilogy also has much better platforming due to the fact that you can actually jump and have proper vertical mobility instead of what we have in the newer game

    • @chris_player2995
      @chris_player2995 5 місяців тому

      i liked the QTEs in the old trilogy...
      yeah you read that right , i dont want kratos doing cool shit while i just watch
      the psp / ps3 gow games did qtes better by putting the prompts on each side like : circle (right) square (left) and so

  • @bugbeast21
    @bugbeast21 Рік тому +84

    Yes. Yes it was

    • @tacla
      @tacla Рік тому +5

      Lol i literally said this in my head before clicking the video hoping someone would comment this. Thank you for that 😂

    • @j2c695
      @j2c695 Рік тому

      Next video

    • @iwuvu5940
      @iwuvu5940 Рік тому +1

      I still have great memories of playing the original 3 games

    • @sreenaths6829
      @sreenaths6829 2 місяці тому

      Yes and then some

  • @markeyestone9980
    @markeyestone9980 Рік тому +10

    I really like the way the boss fight against Zeus in 3 ending in first person mirrors the fight against Poseidon at the beginning ending in a first person perspective from Poseidon's point of view

  • @perryekimae
    @perryekimae Рік тому +43

    "Kratos, hurry!" is a 10/10 underrated moment in gaming history

  • @Lloyd00
    @Lloyd00 Рік тому +14

    GoW 3 is so damn good! The fights, the spectacle, the sense of scale, the brutality and the amazing music!!

  • @vasilgevezov3424
    @vasilgevezov3424 Рік тому +14

    The end of 3 and all the Pandora stuff makes more sense if you have played Chains of Olympus on the PSP as it has scenes with Kratos and his daughter. I would recommend playing the PSP games if you have not, they are fun.

  • @filipvadas7602
    @filipvadas7602 Рік тому +33

    To be fair, Kratos killing Poseidon and Haded in the first third of the game gets across that the rest of the game will be a genuine *slaughter*
    It also enthasises how consumed by fear Zeus was. Instead of all 3 brothers just jumping Kratos together ,he decided to literally throw all of Olympus's defenses at him first and only showed back up once *literally everyone else was dead* , leaving him to kill Kratos on his own and leading to the outcome he dreaded.

  • @wungomungo6177
    @wungomungo6177 Рік тому +50

    The line about tearing aphrodite's head off choked me on my water so hard I nearly passed out

    • @AfifFarhati
      @AfifFarhati 10 місяців тому

      someone else said the exact same thing is there something i missed that makes it extra funny? i mean don't get me wrong the wording is funny , but is it THAT funny? is there something i'm missing here or did it just catch you off guard? genuine question here i have no intention of being condecending or disrespectful...

    • @TheCheeseMovesSideways
      @TheCheeseMovesSideways 10 місяців тому

      ​@@AfifFarhatiit's funny because it's Aphrodite

  • @mihaicapatana6893
    @mihaicapatana6893 Рік тому +20

    Omg i laughed so much at the plumbing segment. Only to end with"i was ready to tear the bitch head off" pure magic

  • @PresidentKony
    @PresidentKony Рік тому +4

    remember getting the game around launch as a kid and watching G4 Tech's "Cheat!" (when Kirsten first became host) to learn about the hidden phone number you could call and hear Kratos answer with Jaffre saying thank you for the support

  • @reDeuxinc
    @reDeuxinc Рік тому +11

    I’m so glad you’re covering this; these games shaped my gaming taste.

  • @lukescrew1981
    @lukescrew1981 Рік тому +24

    The 2000's really were the golden age for gaming

    • @iwuvu5940
      @iwuvu5940 7 місяців тому +1

      It really was, I miss it so much

    • @BigFatCone
      @BigFatCone 3 місяці тому

      As someone who has been playing since before the NES, pretty much every year is golden. There were tons of really great games that came out in the 10's and the 20's haven't been bad either this far.

  • @MrVic989
    @MrVic989 Рік тому +9

    Fun fact the Perseus in the game was voiced by Harry Hamlin, the actor who played Perseus in the original Clash of the Titans movie.

    • @BigFatCone
      @BigFatCone 3 місяці тому

      And Hercules is voiced by Kevin Sorbo, who played Hercules in the Xena spin-off. And in Xena as well.

  • @RugbyWannabe
    @RugbyWannabe Рік тому +10

    Can we just all agree that his description of the Aphrodite scene is absolute creative genius 😂

  • @Mr.ANDERSONYOURASCAL
    @Mr.ANDERSONYOURASCAL Рік тому +3

    What I really love about gow 3 is that every weapon is just as useful and stylish to use as the other. The problem being that a certain "someone" (totally not me) just can't let go of the nemean cestus

  • @cjtherandomizer7638
    @cjtherandomizer7638 Рік тому +4

    Weird side thing, but I can’t think of David Jaffe now without his thing over Metroid Dread. But man, he created something awesome

    • @jonasjojofalco9896
      @jonasjojofalco9896 Рік тому

      What thing

    • @cjtherandomizer7638
      @cjtherandomizer7638 Рік тому +2

      @@jonasjojofalco9896 when Metroid Dread came out, he streamed the game and got stuck on a room for 2 hours. He had to shoot the ceiling, and everything pointed to that being the solution. After that, he rage quit and deleted the game. He also said that was horrible game design, when everyone called him out, he doubled down on it and made several videos on it. This made people lose a lot of respect in him as a game developer

    • @geniusgamerr4517
      @geniusgamerr4517 11 місяців тому

      @@cjtherandomizer7638nah he got worst even with recent videos

  • @deiradinn
    @deiradinn 11 місяців тому +7

    Much prefer the older GOW games to the "insert Cory Barlog" as Kratos.

  • @kaylanpatel00
    @kaylanpatel00 Рік тому +33

    Would love to see ur opinion of the other Norse god of war games

  • @Connorbland72
    @Connorbland72 Рік тому +2

    The spike floor puzzle in the first game sent me insane. It took me a stupid amount of attempts pushing that damn box.

  • @squeethemog213
    @squeethemog213 Рік тому +8

    While I haven't gotten to Ragnarok yet I truly appreciate this series. Thank you for covering it man 😃

    • @Dravianpn02
      @Dravianpn02 Рік тому +4

      It's the worst in the series. It's Marvel phase 4 writing and an extremely rushed game. It's almost a joke in that regard. Watch Under the mayo's video on it. He is wrong about some things but he's spot on on Ragnarok. As is the video "ragnarok : a modern disaster" or whatever it's called.

    • @ВладиславБулаев-л3э
      @ВладиславБулаев-л3э Рік тому +4

      ​@@Dravianpn02the lowest tier bait I've ever seen. Let the man play first to decide for himself.
      Also bringing up that rеtаrd Mayo truly shows severe lack of comprehension skills on your part.

    • @Dravianpn02
      @Dravianpn02 Рік тому +3

      @@ВладиславБулаев-л3э you haven't played the first 3 or you wouldn't be saying what you are saying with the confidence you believe you have. You must have missed the part where I admitted he can be wrong. Only reading issues here is you. Your defense of Ragnarok tells me you consume product and don't think critically about anything you put time into as long as it's shiny and ad formulaic as possible. The idea Ragnarok is some great game means you lack the mental maturity to admit flaws and again show you haven't played the originals and are poor at comparing things or again, you wouldn't be saying what you are saying.

  • @PapaSouli
    @PapaSouli 11 місяців тому +1

    God of war 2 is still my favourite games to this day - the combat, the story and the voice acting was incredible you really felt like a total badass.

  • @cyjoker333
    @cyjoker333 Рік тому +11

    Great video. In my eyes 2010 almost rivals 2007 as the greatest year in video game releases. Both were fantastic years but 2007 just barely wins. But Keep up the good work. You're delivery and humor always make the videos top notch.

  • @miroslav3196
    @miroslav3196 11 місяців тому +1

    Man, real talk: this episode has had your funniest bits and edits yet. I'm not even done watching it but every once in a while I have to pause to laugh to myself for 15 seconds straight. Well fucking done.

  • @Arkalidor
    @Arkalidor Рік тому +6

    About God Of War 1 not ending on a sad note: not having played the game, I do not know the general tone of the scene, so I'm not sure how it's handled, but to me, nabbing Kratos off the water and plopping him down on the god of war throne seems like even more punishment. All he wants is for it all to be over, and making him god of war just means it will keep going on, he will keep being tortured by his memories, and even death is no longer an option...

  • @wileywells6810
    @wileywells6810 Рік тому +3

    I have the most vivid memory of playing gow 3 for the first time and fighting poseidon in the beginning and the qte makes you click l3 +r3 and Kratos thumbs him in the eyes. My jaw hit the floor and I was so stoked to play the rest of it.

    • @thesenate4743
      @thesenate4743 Рік тому +1

      Poseidon fight is the best "first bossfight" ever happened to a Videogame.......an absolute Banger

    • @Ronbotnik
      @Ronbotnik Рік тому +1

      an absolutely banger way to kick off a game, ive played GoW reboot + ragnarok to 100% and I struggle to remember any details as clearly as i can remember GoW3 and its been like a decade.
      they truly dont make em like they used to

  • @yaro42
    @yaro42 Рік тому +4

    I recently played trought gow 2 and 3 again, and man, they're as fun as it was when I played it in school

  • @casedistorted
    @casedistorted Рік тому +3

    I always liked how the ending of GoW1 you become the God of War and you have the chains super powerful and are basically a Demi god.
    But of course in God of War 2 they can’t have you be that OP and just up the ante, so they take away your powers like in every Metroid game.
    I remember wondering when I beat Super Metroid as a kid in 1994 or 1995 thinking “man! The next Metroid game will be wild since Samus has that rainbow hyper beam now and is super powerful!” But at least Metroid Fusion finally came out 7 whole years later (I waited a LONG time), and there was story reasons why she was so weak again and lost everything.

  • @Dieselbird
    @Dieselbird Рік тому +5

    I know its probably a ways away, but I cant wait for the Starfield video! Thanks for the revisit into my rage filled sessions of trying to platinum these games lol, and the way these games have evolved over the years really speaks for the folks at Santa Monica Studios!

  • @ethantheheathen
    @ethantheheathen Рік тому

    Nothing better than getting the surprise about a new Salt video when you open UA-cam. Best video essays around.

  • @tomassadil324
    @tomassadil324 10 місяців тому +3

    Even today, I love GoW trilogy and I prefer it over the new installment.
    I honestly don't think that literal god of war should be as vulnerable as Kratos is now.
    Honestly GoW trilogy in at least 144 fps is what I need right now. They should remaster / remake it for PC.

    • @chris_player2995
      @chris_player2995 5 місяців тому

      yeah too bad there isnt even a fanmade project for pc

  • @OdinArrow28
    @OdinArrow28 10 місяців тому +2

    “God of war starts off with the lead singer of disturbed” made almost choke while I was eating 😂 fucking brilliant lmao

  • @rruhland
    @rruhland Рік тому +11

    It’s kinda sad that the first thing I think of when I hear David Jaffe isn’t the fact that he designed the iconic God of War series, but that he raged out over not being able to solve one of the most simple rooms in Metroid Dread.

    • @Ronbotnik
      @Ronbotnik Рік тому +8

      yeah......im not sure what happened to David Jaffe after Twisted Metal Black and the original GoW trilogy. Its like some wiring in his head came loose, he just doesnt even seem like the same person anymore and it really shows both in his work and how he carries himself.

    • @Cableguy15
      @Cableguy15 Рік тому +7

      @@Ronbotnik Happened to a lot of prolific game devs in the 2010s, sadly. Social media rotted their minds, or showed us all how rotten their minds already were. I call it the Phil Fish effect. :D

  • @scottrasso410
    @scottrasso410 11 днів тому

    I can NEVER get enough GoW content. I have essentially grown with Kratos (as an angry young adult I first discovered the original game, and have since grown along with Kratos as a father struggling with his past demons as he tries to raise his children). I replay the games every couple of years, including the PSP titles. Having replayed Ascension after Dad of Boy and Ragnarök made me realize that was quite a bridge game between the two styles of play found in the Greek era versus that if the Norse. I'd listen to whatever GoW content you released.

  • @bellmike89
    @bellmike89 Рік тому +3

    loved the Philadelphia Eagle defensive line shoutout at 1:02:00 Go Birds 🦅

  • @TheRavenShadowsWolf
    @TheRavenShadowsWolf Рік тому +2

    49:17 - Because Zues is his father... so if he ganked Zues before he could bone down with Kratos' mortal mom, Kratos doesn't ever exist, and NONE of the potential time lines would remotely matter...
    * From here it's all about trying to get Pandora's Box into position to be opened... Phrasing! ; )

  • @acey6991
    @acey6991 Рік тому +8

    Really was craving some more content just like this. Thank salt!

  • @jonnybarnes18
    @jonnybarnes18 Рік тому +1

    I beat the first game in 05 on my first deployment. The 2nd one in 08 on my 2nd deployment and the last one in 2010 on leave from my 3rd deployment. These games are permanently seared into my brain along with the good battles I served in Iraq with.
    I’m old as hell.

  • @kewldude23xx
    @kewldude23xx Рік тому +7

    48:10 that "back and forth " in Kratos ' emotions is what I experience with my bipolar disorder. Any emotion is amplified to 200% . One day I care for for a person , and the next day that person means nothing to me . Thats why I always identified with Kratoes and understand every single decision he has made in all the games .

  • @thegamingnating6446
    @thegamingnating6446 Рік тому +2

    Great video. While i personally never played these growing up after watching this i can at least appreciate them and hell now i might see how the story continues with the newer games

  • @venomherlet2825
    @venomherlet2825 Рік тому +16

    "The lead singer of Disturbed"
    Damn it. When I heard that I immediately jumped to "I'm indestructible!!" and that doesn't fit with Kratos' attempted suicide at all xD
    Anyway, for me I like the most GOW 1. Then GOW 1 the second, GOW 3, 2, Ascension, and the rest I either didn't play or don't remember enough to rank. GOW 1 is still the only one I beat multiple times a day though :).

    • @firmak2
      @firmak2 Рік тому +1

      For what in bananas reason is GOW 1 above 3?

    • @venomherlet2825
      @venomherlet2825 Рік тому

      Because while GOW 3 definitely looked better, had better combat and all those things, the more I think about it, the more it feels to me just like a slaughter fest instead of a deep character story. Some mindless fun can of course be good, but in case of GOW it doesn't work for me.

  • @beatthebyte7058
    @beatthebyte7058 11 місяців тому +2

    Really late to the party but at the beginning of GoW2, you are led to believe that Athena is the one attacking you, shrinking you and assaulting you with the colossus, because of the initial confrontation in the opening cutscene and because of what looks like an owl (a symbol of Athena) flying around. HOWEVER, when said bird is revealed to be Zeus morphed into an eagle (one of Zeus’ symbols), it’s revealed that Zeus is the one who animated the colossus all along and was the one who attacked Kratos in his giant form, and so Athena wasn’t even involved at all

  • @cloudbloom
    @cloudbloom Рік тому +5

    I haven't played these games since they were released so it's cool to go down memory lane. I fucking loved them back in the day and tried to unlock all the goodies and trophies, some of the challenges were damn near impossible but they were a good time. Thanks for this video🙏

    • @Dravianpn02
      @Dravianpn02 Рік тому

      Dude, play them again. They hold up. Especially 2 and 3.

    • @cloudbloom
      @cloudbloom Рік тому

      @@Dravianpn02 I would like to, I just don't have the means right now

  • @PincheBeto_Bass
    @PincheBeto_Bass 5 місяців тому

    I was in 5th grade when the first gow came out. I was absolutely obsessed with the game and became obsessed with Greek mythology too

  • @WoobertAIO
    @WoobertAIO Рік тому +4

    8:00 Ok so, gotta disagree with you on that point. The reason Kratos didn't help the captain wasn't because Kratos doesn't have empathy, but because he does. The captain of the ship abandoned his men to save himself, something that Kratos, being a feared and respected military leader of the Spartan army would never have done himself, just as he shows repeatedly throughout the series.

  • @aceofsharks9837
    @aceofsharks9837 Рік тому

    God of War was one of the first gaming series my Dad introduced me to as a kid. Having our own Father-Son relationship evolve alongside the narrative/thematic evolution of the God of War games was absolutely incredible, especially with the tragically appropriate timing of God of War Ragnarok releasing in his final 2 months of life. Experiencing the bond between Atreus & Kratos grow before finally maturing while having our own father-son relationship come to it's end was downright poetic.
    Would absolutely love to see you make a video about GoW 2018 & Ragnarok.

    • @enoyna1001
      @enoyna1001 Рік тому +1

      I'm sorry for your loss. I hope he shouts 'Boooy' down from heaven every time you're doing good.

  • @jorgecardoso5863
    @jorgecardoso5863 Рік тому +26

    Aw man, It would be really, really great if you followed on to the God of War norse games. Hearing your opinion on them would be dope!

    • @WhySoSeriousSenpai
      @WhySoSeriousSenpai Рік тому +1

      Those are awful

    • @Dorraj
      @Dorraj Рік тому

      Yeah can't wait for him to find the weirdest takes on trying to find something to complain about.

    • @chapman2001
      @chapman2001 10 місяців тому

      @@WhySoSeriousSenpaibest games oat

  • @theakspud
    @theakspud Рік тому +2

    My childhood was this trilogy, was 7 when the first one came out and convinced my uncle to get it for me

  • @justinharris2272
    @justinharris2272 Рік тому +5

    Salt Factory is a must watch every time you bless my feed bro, thank you for such excellent, consistent content :)

  • @MrSupersonic2012
    @MrSupersonic2012 Рік тому +5

    Love to see this. Would definitely be interested in seeing you cover the PSP games. Theyre also pretty good.

  • @MusicMedic5150
    @MusicMedic5150 Рік тому +2

    I must say this is your best video yet salt. You injected more humor (the Rube Goldberg bit in particular) and it sounded like you really enjoyed making this one. Keep up the great content.

  • @OverlordParadox
    @OverlordParadox Рік тому +110

    Everytime game journalists or redditors say that Kratos matured, became selfless character that learned the meaning of sacrifice and grew up to be a family man in the new games I immediately know they didn't even bother to play the old trilogy (plus psp games) and have no idea what they are talking about.

    • @topcat59
      @topcat59 Рік тому +24

      This is the main reasons why I believe we should never acknowledge journalist as gamers or people.🐱

    • @Dorraj
      @Dorraj Рік тому +20

      I mean, there's a difference between learning the meaning of something, and applying that to your life.
      The former is Kratos in the original games, the latter is Kratos in the new ones. Kratos looking back at his past and not wanting to repeat it is the most basic form of emotional maturity, and that's absolutely what he lacked in the original games.

    • @9o638
      @9o638 11 місяців тому

      Why

    • @yellowcard8100
      @yellowcard8100 11 місяців тому +5

      @@Dorraj My personal issue (that plenty of videos have talked about) is the fact that people act like Kratos was some 2 Dimensional character who was just "angry for no reason". GOW4 works because GOW1-3 has character be this tragic person with some depth. Dude's a broken man. Things like Chains of Olympus or Ascension show it off more. Like how badly he didn't want to kill Ares' son.

    • @Dorraj
      @Dorraj 11 місяців тому +3

      @@yellowcard8100 Well unfortunately CoO was tied to a mobile console that most people did not have, most people don't even know the portable games existed. And for whatever reason people hated Ascension. I legit didn't even know it had come out until multiple years into the PS4s life.
      It's a problem that a lot of people have when discussing a lot of video games. Everyone thinks characters are always written one-dimensionally. They expect a character to act one way and one way only, with 0 change throughout the games, and if they do change, it's either "revolutionary" or absolutely hated beyond belief (coughTLoU2cough)

  • @moonlight-vk6gg
    @moonlight-vk6gg Рік тому +2

    God of war 1 circle button mashing had no mercy

  • @MrDalisclock
    @MrDalisclock Рік тому +4

    Looking forward to your video on Dragon Age Inquisition whenever you're ready.

  • @atari_black8113
    @atari_black8113 Рік тому +1

    Poseidon's kill cam is the only example of second person gameplay I know of.

  • @AR-ix8fq
    @AR-ix8fq Рік тому +18

    You should do the first 3 prince of persia games as well.

    • @Morellen
      @Morellen Рік тому

      If you like PoP, I finished A Video Game has a great video on the entire series if you haven't seen it already, but I feel like you probably have - ua-cam.com/video/Io6zwExo3jw/v-deo.html&

    • @cheekibreeki904
      @cheekibreeki904 Рік тому +1

      Somehow I think the Sands of Time trilogy might be more up his alley.

  • @alcandorhan2918
    @alcandorhan2918 Рік тому +4

    Perfect Friday treat from the Salt Factory. I was just listening to Fallout 4 again today 😂

  • @andrewkotris1183
    @andrewkotris1183 3 місяці тому

    I was originally bummed you didn’t do the new ones as well and make it a 4 hour banger but honestly this has quickly become one of my fav vide so this and the chronicles of Elyria lmao

  • @LordReginaldMeowmont
    @LordReginaldMeowmont Рік тому +13

    You should cover older games like N64 and PS1 games. I always love watching your reviews.

    • @wyate2295
      @wyate2295 Рік тому +1

      Agreed

    • @brandonlyon730
      @brandonlyon730 Рік тому +2

      Resident evil could be fun, especially if he compares the remakes to the originals.

  • @LimitBreakr424
    @LimitBreakr424 Рік тому

    Best intro/background/groundwork laid out in a long time. Really enjoyed the start to this journey

  • @shagohad3
    @shagohad3 Рік тому +3

    Just a slight correction. DMC didnt branch out from Onimusha. It was originally an early build of RE4, with Dante spawning from the character of Tony Redgrave. The build was under Kamiya's direction, and once the glitch was discovered, Mikami begged Capcom not to throw it out. Thus, DMC was born.

    • @proxymoxie7882
      @proxymoxie7882 Рік тому

      He was saying that a game play mechanic resulted from Onimusha, and that DMC itself was out of RE. 0:40

    • @shagohad3
      @shagohad3 Рік тому

      @@proxymoxie7882 He said during Onimusha's development, a bug happened that inspired RE4. It didnt, that bug was in the same beta of RE4 that became DMC.

    • @proxymoxie7882
      @proxymoxie7882 Рік тому

      @@shagohad3 if you watched what I clipped you would hear "it inspired a core game play mechanic of DMC - a game that also started as a direct result from RE" it was not said that DMC branched from Onimusha.

  • @venatiodecorus
    @venatiodecorus Рік тому

    i remember getting into this series when i first got a ps3. either i played the 3rd then went back and played 1 & 2 immediately or i bought the trilogy and just drilled through the whole thing but i played it back to back and it was one of the highlights of my gaming during that time period. when the 2018 game came out, Kratos' story of redemption caught me and the mix of nostalgia and expertly executed story made it and Ragnarok two of my favorite games ever. i love this series.

  • @christianlowman2698
    @christianlowman2698 Рік тому +4

    This has become my absolute favorite channel

  • @kevinkwiek730
    @kevinkwiek730 Рік тому

    I am so happy to see you reviewing a game that I absolutely adore! I do think you could of stretched it out to a 3 hour video from reviewing not only the psp games but tying in the ragnarok ones and we all would of loved it but I do know how detailed you go into these and alas still enjoyed the time you put into the trilogy. Thanks again for your videos keep up the good fight man!

  • @aaronworthing1023
    @aaronworthing1023 Рік тому +6

    Great series of games. I’ll stop right about midway through God of war two to add some notes
    1. I always thought the first game was meant to be a throwback to the great hard R movies of the 80’s in addition to also being the clash of the titans as it existed in your dreams. (the actual 80s movie has not aged well) but I’m saying it’s got a significant Paul Verhoeven vibe to it. Gore, bewbs, and so on. It’s ironically very similar to 300, which was based on a comic that I believe came out before the first God of war so I’m not sure who was influencing who. I always said that except for the mythology angle, god of war made you feel more like you were in that kind of movie.
    2. I am at almost the 40 minute mark and I think you missed that they actually got Perseus himself, harry Hamilin, to reprise his role. Apologizes if I’m wrong but I think you definitely missed it. Honestly I didn’t think he was very good in GOW2, but it’s still kind of cool. Also, Kevin Sorbo, who played Hercules on the old TV show plays Hercules in god of war three. In case you missed that.
    3. I think the big flaw in the first game, and it is nearly perfect, is how you had just one massive puzzle in the middle of the game. It’s not bad, I didn’t get bored, but I kind of like how they spread them out more later.
    I’ve got work to do and I’ll come back to it later, but I thought I’d pass on those thoughts

  • @goozygo102
    @goozygo102 Рік тому +1

    1:04:09 Actually, that isn't Atlas. As seen in GOW 2, Atlas has four arms and when Kratos goes back in time to get Gaia you can see the cutscene where Atlas is getting his soul stolen play out. It doesn't show it explicitly happening but you get the jest that it's too late for him when Kratos takes them to the present. The battle may have gone differently if they were able to save him in time.

  • @animalisticprik
    @animalisticprik Рік тому +8

    More God of War? Yes, please.

  • @solidkwon
    @solidkwon 9 місяців тому +1

    I def did not overthink and analyze GoW II like that lol
    I just loved it as my favorite in the series cause almost every moment is like “zomg this is an incredible set piece/level design, and it’s soooo much fun!”

  • @SwooshJush83
    @SwooshJush83 Рік тому +4

    Damn didn’t think you’d do GOW, fuck yeah. Your videos are an event for me bruh keep up the good work!

  • @ThisNThat0810
    @ThisNThat0810 Рік тому +1

    Bro you adding "I just wanna take the key from around your next too" to Kratos wait had me dead 😂😂 I had to run it back because I didn't remember him saying that 😂 but he should have. Thank you for doing GOW finally and these vids, nice nostalgia as an OG gamer.

  • @Erebus0001
    @Erebus0001 Рік тому +4

    God's please check out the side games.
    They really flush out kratos as a character.

  • @kylekozlov3674
    @kylekozlov3674 Рік тому +1

    You are literally my favorite UA-camr. I haven't played most of the games you review but the way you describe them is hilarious bro, got me cracking up every video😂

  • @redroC171
    @redroC171 Рік тому +36

    for anyone who's curious, Euryale is pronounced like yoor-EYE-a-lee

    • @Myluz12
      @Myluz12 Рік тому +4

      Ooh at the back of my head I was thinking Uriel. I forgot that character is different.

  • @Nasi_Kerabu_Z
    @Nasi_Kerabu_Z Рік тому +1

    30:33 Am I the only who just realized you can shoot bow while ride the pegasus????

  • @marcusclark1339
    @marcusclark1339 Рік тому +5

    still better than new era, and "old era" cause they realized sex sells, when did we become such prudes
    the classic fixed camera isn't bad, and not archaic but ironically more free than the new camera is in the newer games
    one strength to the kills is they always give certain rewards from certain enemies, so its a BAD IDEA to avoid QTEs especially in 1
    GoW still just strong cause its quick and to the point and really should of been the only one, now its all ruined, tragic
    issue of 3 is rushed development to its ideas, more options lead to more mashing ironically losing its stronger design
    one thing good on it is Kratos as a character, he's not the emotinless beast people act like he is when 2018 dropped in revisionism, he speaks more and is actually able to express his thoughts better than even ragnarok's

  • @Atomic_Aegis45
    @Atomic_Aegis45 11 місяців тому +1

    The Blade of Artemis does more damage at level 1 than the blades do at level 4. It may not reach as far, but the damage definitely helps while you are waiting for the blades to hit max level.

  • @Dragonoid9810
    @Dragonoid9810 Рік тому +25

    If you haven't already, I recommend checking out a video about The Man Who Broke God of War in Half. It's all about the OG speedrunning community surrounding the first GOW back when it was first released, and it's actually really interesting seeing some of the skips they'd discovered back then

  • @mrpitman5496
    @mrpitman5496 Рік тому +1

    When Kratos goes back in time originally he only goes back to his death so it would not affect the timeline. When he went back the second time he was only in the past for a minute and if you rewatch Gia giving the history of the war you actually see the titans disappear in the green light when the gods thought they were dead and it was just Kratos pulling them though time.