UPDATE #2 this got broken in DCS, shrikes don’t give any sound, AND figured out why the range is not stable: Range is not calculated by the shrike’s receiver but simply by pitagora’s theorem given your altitude, the target altitude and your nose angle. So set the depression to 35mils and put the pipper on target. Ranges of under 20nm are good.
Hey guys, quick update: #1 keep the dive on the needles for few seconds and see if the calculated range is stable and makes sense. #2 16nm seems to be the hard limit for these if you drop them from 30k at mach speed #3 I was testing this with the SA-2 but somehow the range gets calculated way too short always (mk50 seekers) and the sparrows fall to the ground before acquiring the target... so the best way to get an SA-2 is with mavericks imo...
Or you can just launch shrikes slightly higher which is possible cuz as it gives you the cue it still gives you a fair bit of time before it launches, so you can just pull your nose a bit higher. You should actually fire higher regardless as shrikes will have no trouble pulling down (they only seem basicly incapable of pulling up) and if you do so it will give them a higher attack angle hence better accuracy.
@@alpenfoxvideo7255 can I invite you on a campaign we are organizing (cold war) with a big RPG vocation? i like what you do and i feel you can add a lot! if you want u can search for Op. Levantine Ghost in the ED forum in the Events and Tournament section.. if this comment is not good for you pls delete it and forgive me :)
Great video man thanks for making it. I thought SAMs were not on the front line on ECW? They must have changed this. Also, are you aware of if the A4 can also take these better Shrikes? EDIT: ah it was an airport!
@@MrSunshine571 come on it still looks good I’m sure, just focus the rendering power in the cockpit at 70hz without reprojection. It looks miles better than FSX and VTOL ever did anyway
@@alpenfoxvideo7255 Im sure it is possible to get it to look right but the issue is I just cant be bothered lmao It takes a lot of messing about, changing settings etc to get it just right, I simply cant be bothered :D I was hoping this 4070 TI would just let me power through most of this stuff but it seems I would need a 4080 or what you have :(
If you want to make a good tutorial video, first of all never use VR. It very hard to understand anything while your head is shaking all around the cockpit. Maybe VR is very good for immerse yourself, but very uncomfortable to watch.
@@alpenfoxvideo7255 Its in the openxr toolkit options, called overcorrection compensation or something, it basicly just smooths out your head movement making recordings look much better and zooming in much more bearable.
If you have VR setup without a monitor in front of you(like I am for example), it's kinda become impossible to make any recordings other way around, sadly... =( And doing normal screenshots too. It's a limitation that not everyone can override in their setups. The only way is to not record anything at all. OpenXR toolkit is old and unsupported anymore.
for some reason it doesn't work, tried in training in the editor on the wheel, did the same thing several times, but on the ADI it's empty, the arrow doesn't point to the radiation and there is no sound from the missiles that they are picking up the radiation... check please, did it against the SA-8 and SA-2 mk49 mod1
@@showsesol1792 yes I spent all my free time today testing it and communicating with fellow phantom enjoyers. Seems like they implemented some changes that made the system more realistic but broke everything in the process, so shrikes won’t give sounds and they track way more radar bands. But the shrikes and the system generally work, what you have to do is set the pipper to AG 35mils and put it on the enemy position. if the altitude data you inserted is right you’ll see on the Nav Wheel a straight arrow and the calculated distance. If the distance is under 20nm press and hold pickle and start pulling up until the donut 🍩 appears then in 5 seconds the shrikes will deploy. Placing the pipper on the target is the correct way to do it even if the HSI needles are working I discovered… Tested with MK49.1 and SA-3. Also check that the sam site is not disabling their radar following your launches, because on ShadowReaper’s server it’s nearly impossible to get a kill with those without a second wild weasel plane
I really enjoyed your choice of music. Great tutorial. I'm going to go try it now.
Good tutorial i think it was the gloves, it all made sense to me. Thumbs up.
Great job, gonna give this a try next time I’m on. Thanks!!
UPDATE #2
this got broken in DCS, shrikes don’t give any sound, AND figured out why the range is not stable:
Range is not calculated by the shrike’s receiver but simply by pitagora’s theorem given your altitude, the target altitude and your nose angle. So set the depression to 35mils and put the pipper on target.
Ranges of under 20nm are good.
thanks man! this helped alot!
that was very helpful. Thank you.
Hey guys, quick update: #1 keep the dive on the needles for few seconds and see if the calculated range is stable and makes sense.
#2 16nm seems to be the hard limit for these if you drop them from 30k at mach speed
#3 I was testing this with the SA-2 but somehow the range gets calculated way too short always (mk50 seekers) and the sparrows fall to the ground before acquiring the target... so the best way to get an SA-2 is with mavericks imo...
Or you can just launch shrikes slightly higher which is possible cuz as it gives you the cue it still gives you a fair bit of time before it launches, so you can just pull your nose a bit higher.
You should actually fire higher regardless as shrikes will have no trouble pulling down (they only seem basicly incapable of pulling up) and if you do so it will give them a higher attack angle hence better accuracy.
Nice video! do you fly in a group or you are a lone wolf?
@@gianmarcotroccolo7113 still looking for a group… I was accepted in an american milsim one but they play when my local time is 2AM
@@alpenfoxvideo7255 can I invite you on a campaign we are organizing (cold war) with a big RPG vocation? i like what you do and i feel you can add a lot! if you want u can search for Op. Levantine Ghost in the ED forum in the Events and Tournament section.. if this comment is not good for you pls delete it and forgive me :)
That is a great tutorial thanks! How did you get the tomcat to show in your VR hangar?
Great video man thanks for making it. I thought SAMs were not on the front line on ECW? They must have changed this.
Also, are you aware of if the A4 can also take these better Shrikes?
EDIT: ah it was an airport!
I think enigma on this settings puts Strela-1 on the frontline. And the A-4 apart needing to be belly-up doesn't calculate a loft :C
Nice video! Can you share your PC specs? For VR your DCS looks great!
@@MrSunshine571 it’s an RTX4090, I don’t wanna brag about it too much, but that lets me render at full resolution with high settings
@@alpenfoxvideo7255 Ah I see, that explains it. I run a 4070TI and I cant get it to run well in VR. It either runs badly or looks horrible. :(
@@MrSunshine571 come on it still looks good I’m sure, just focus the rendering power in the cockpit at 70hz without reprojection.
It looks miles better than FSX and VTOL ever did anyway
@@alpenfoxvideo7255 Im sure it is possible to get it to look right but the issue is I just cant be bothered lmao It takes a lot of messing about, changing settings etc to get it just right, I simply cant be bothered :D I was hoping this 4070 TI would just let me power through most of this stuff but it seems I would need a 4080 or what you have :(
What is your PC Setup ?
what setting should be the flight director mode knob set to? its hard to see in this video..
@@Uploadvideoschannel leave it to computer, just rotate the FD keyer
@@alpenfoxvideo7255 thanks!
What do
You use for the VR hand controls? VR gloves?
@@CJR505 the Quest 3 controllers. I have a 3D printed pouch to rest them on the sides of the chair
@ Right on. I’ll have to give it a go.
pretty sure the delivery mode should be set to loft. correct me if im wrong
@@ilankeren1449 that if you do a manual loft, with the parameters calculated by you
hey are you using the quest 2 or 3 if you are useing the 2 how did you get the hands to work
I've tried every tutorial, I can't get them to launch. All I get is detection tone, nothing beyond that.
If you want to make a good tutorial video, first of all never use VR. It very hard to understand anything while your head is shaking all around the cockpit. Maybe VR is very good for immerse yourself, but very uncomfortable to watch.
If he simply uses openxr vr stabilization it would be actually pretty good
@@kiubekpl5863 what is that? i can find very little info on that
@@alpenfoxvideo7255 Its in the openxr toolkit options, called overcorrection compensation or something, it basicly just smooths out your head movement making recordings look much better and zooming in much more bearable.
If you have VR setup without a monitor in front of you(like I am for example), it's kinda become impossible to make any recordings other way around, sadly... =( And doing normal screenshots too. It's a limitation that not everyone can override in their setups. The only way is to not record anything at all. OpenXR toolkit is old and unsupported anymore.
What do you mean bit press and hold pickle ? Thanks for the tutorial
@@Braviation76 you have to keep it pressed all the way trough
@@alpenfoxvideo7255 okay thanks, but for me the AGM doesn’t want to move direct to the SA just in front of him
try 28nm shoots
I don’t get it, please help me, SA-3 site, from 15000ft at 370knots I can’t hit, they fly over the site, even if I get the donut
Same
Anyone know the intro song?
@@Deathtroll1499 Go hard - Utopiia, bought from Artlist
What hand control are you using?
@@shi4stone Oculus Quest 3 trackers, they’re not good at all… just because ED broke the controllers…
VR is horrible to watch on UA-cam...
I can't get this to work lol
@@Matt-tf1wz try at least 6 times and check the Jtac, sometimes shrikes are tempremental
I must have tried 8-10 times on ECW/HBCW. No joy so far.
for some reason it doesn't work, tried in training in the editor on the wheel, did the same thing several times, but on the ADI it's empty, the arrow doesn't point to the radiation and there is no sound from the missiles that they are picking up the radiation... check please, did it against the SA-8 and SA-2 mk49 mod1
@@showsesol1792 yes I spent all my free time today testing it and communicating with fellow phantom enjoyers.
Seems like they implemented some changes that made the system more realistic but broke everything in the process, so shrikes won’t give sounds and they track way more radar bands.
But the shrikes and the system generally work, what you have to do is set the pipper to AG 35mils and put it on the enemy position. if the altitude data you inserted is right you’ll see on the Nav Wheel a straight arrow and the calculated distance.
If the distance is under 20nm press and hold pickle and start pulling up until the donut 🍩 appears then in 5 seconds the shrikes will deploy.
Placing the pipper on the target is the correct way to do it even if the HSI needles are working I discovered… Tested with MK49.1 and SA-3. Also check that the sam site is not disabling their radar following your launches, because on ShadowReaper’s server it’s nearly impossible to get a kill with those without a second wild weasel plane