It's true but people tend to buy more into the visuals than actual talent so they don't have that much incentive to make sure only the talented/skilled vocalists pass :(
stop blaming hybe for everything, just for a group, you can't bring down the whole company. they have many artists and many legends and there is no doubt they paved the way for kpop eg:- bts, seventeen, txt, enhypen and many more..
@@yeonicore There're good changes and also bad changes. It's true that BTS helped introducing kpop to western audience, but it's also true that Hybe prioritizes flashy stages than singing. 80% of worst encore stages ever belong to Hybe artists, funny coincidence I'm saying this as I don't want this type of trend being normalized in kpop industry, after all, no matter how good they dance, if they can't sing, they still look untalented
@@Wanwanspittingfacts well i agree that they focus on those flashy stages but there's no doubt, they have amazing singers with stable vocals as well ifyou search up (i aint talking about every idol in the agency tho) and in the case of le sserafim, i think they really need a proper vocal training and DEF THEY NEED IT! but it still makes me sad, how everyone is blaming hybe for ruining the kpop wherease it's those so-called fans who are ruining it.. btw thanks for understanding unlike picking up a dispute!
Other than lesserafim, these have justifiable reasons. IVE was crying, Jimin most likely did have trouble with his in-ears and said he was nervous without the members, Momo herself looked shocked when she sang.
earpiece thing is getting old, he could just remove it a singer can sing without having a metronome cue and about the members part he's done many solo projects and suddenly he can't sing his OWN song 😭 i like bts too but dont baby these grown men.
Man, most of Le Sserafim songs are on lower range while their best vocalist are on the higher range so they struggle to sing lower than they used to. But if they increase the key, I kinda think it's gonna be to high for the weaker vocalist so I don't know what to do 😂
bro just admit it most of LSF's members have weak vocals like bruh ima hardcore once and i agree some(NOT ALL) of Twice's members need vocal training and its fineee as long as they try and improve thats all that matters so HYBE should give more vocal training to LSF
These things happen sometimes. Ive sounded fine they just broke off in between, idk about Jimin but the earpiece thing does make sense and Momo genuinely looked like she knew she messed up, especially if she started off wrong it's hard to switch key in such a small part
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The fact that Le sserafim receives critics about their vocals since debut and they never improved is concerning. I still don't know why tf hybe made them perform on coachella since lipsync is prohibited and they never performed live💀. The others here sound off-key, lesserafim doesn't even sound like they are the singers of the song. I love them, but they NEED vocal training.
@chkyiaroulhac5572 buddy, watch the whole encore and judge, if you don't understand to discriminate between misinformational clips like these , which claim half assed info then you'll get scammed pretty quick Also your guessing skills are way off
The title says "groups that were criticized" so I'm guessing IVE received a lot of criticism?? Idk since I don't keep up with them but I don't think there was anything wrong with them being in here. Now if it was a different title I'd agree. But that's just how I see it
@@blissoos Girl HUH 😭this is the most insane reach ever. OP isn’t misogynistic, the reason why there are so many girl groups here is because boy groups don’t butcher their encores like this because they have harder choreos which means they need to train more to get their singing right.
Wow. I heard Les Sserafim had bad live vocals but that is borderline ridiculous. And compared to all the others in this edit they were by far the absolute worst!
Literally the only group with strong vocals or vocals on general is seventeen and they weren’t even trained by hybe. Tf do you mean “ isn’t actually a bad vocal company”
@dibidibidis3367 girl... fromis_9? Txt? Enhypen? New jeans? If you think they bad you either think mr removed is real, or you just believe in vocal tiers. I can't see any other reason
@@ducky3490 none of those groups are vocally strong, none of those groups even have a vocalist, or a strong singer ( other the main vocalist in fromis_9 idk her name though) I don’t believe this, I know this because I minor in music production and it’s a requirement for me to know and recognize the art of singing and vocalizing. Hope this helps.
I'm sorry I actually love Le Sserafim but you have to admit they NEED to train more. They're artists and singing is their job. I understand people who hate them for this are going too far but constructive criticism isn't bad
I just wanna say that an encore would mean that they just finished dancing and performing, which is basically an entire workout. Yes, they are standing still, but imagine trying to stand still and sing a short while right after you did a really cardio heavy workout. It's not gonna sound stable---your heart rate hasn't gone down completely and you still are trying to catch your breath.
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Hybe is waaay too focused on dance rather than caring about lesserafim's vocals
It's true but people tend to buy more into the visuals than actual talent so they don't have that much incentive to make sure only the talented/skilled vocalists pass :(
sadly its not only le sserafim, hybe doesn't focus on vocals in any of their groups, every idol in hybe that can sing learned without hybe's help
@@satou5388 yeah, that's true
yeah your right even Illit is not doing great in live vocal i hope Illit and le serrafilm improve there live vocals
*money they csre more about money than talent.
even momo was like wtf was that. it’s ok it happens sometimes lmao 🤣🤣
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Even Momo looked surprised 😂
It will never not be funny to me
Frr 😂😂
Momo was like: the actual fuck just came out of my mouth? 😭
There was no problem with the IVE one. Ik theyre idols but the girls were crying makes sense that they werent singing properly.
She always skip that part tho💀
They were fine before but people started accusing Rei of always skipping a part and saying that it's a proof she can't sing
Hybe really changes the kpop idol industry 🗿
stop blaming hybe for everything, just for a group, you can't bring down the whole company. they have many artists and many legends and there is no doubt they paved the way for kpop eg:- bts, seventeen, txt, enhypen and many more..
@@yeonicore There're good changes and also bad changes. It's true that BTS helped introducing kpop to western audience, but it's also true that Hybe prioritizes flashy stages than singing. 80% of worst encore stages ever belong to Hybe artists, funny coincidence
I'm saying this as I don't want this type of trend being normalized in kpop industry, after all, no matter how good they dance, if they can't sing, they still look untalented
@@Wanwanspittingfacts well i agree that they focus on those flashy stages but there's no doubt, they have amazing singers with stable vocals as well ifyou search up (i aint talking about every idol in the agency tho) and in the case of le sserafim, i think they really need a proper vocal training and DEF THEY NEED IT! but it still makes me sad, how everyone is blaming hybe for ruining the kpop wherease it's those so-called fans who are ruining it.. btw thanks for understanding unlike picking up a dispute!
@@yeonicorenone of those groups you named paved the way for K-pop ☠️ Enha and txt have just as mediocre vocals as le sseraifm
@@yeonicoremost of hybe vocalist are sucks just admit it only some are good😂
hybe always at the crime scene 💀
Lesserafim makes debuting in kpop look *EASY* 😭🤚
Bro lesserafim ☠💀
Momo was so traumatized with what she heard😭 my baby
Yeah the hate she got just for that one mistake is TOO MUCH I feel bad my girl😭
I’ve members was crying….
True
But when the same is said for illit all of a sudden it’s not an excuse so come up with something else
@@Finessesky224 no one is talking about their first encore stage it's the second one and they were not even crying on their second encore
@@savitathakur8033 pls do share when and where that is being stated at?
@@Finessesky224For ive it happens once but Illit EVERY SINGLE PERFORMENCE
Other than lesserafim, these have justifiable reasons. IVE was crying, Jimin most likely did have trouble with his in-ears and said he was nervous without the members, Momo herself looked shocked when she sang.
Yep
earpiece thing is getting old, he could just remove it a singer can sing without having a metronome cue and about the members part he's done many solo projects and suddenly he can't sing his OWN song 😭 i like bts too but dont baby these grown men.
But when ppl say the same for illit all of a sudden them crying isn’t an excuse so why does it work for IVE and not them?
@@Finessesky224 bc Ive have actually proved that they have good vocals and there resent encores were good
@@ShreyaNarain and the videos I’ve seen that weren’t? Now what? Or does that not count bc it doesn’t fit your narrative?
Le Sserafim changing kpop with their bad encores.
Man, most of Le Sserafim songs are on lower range while their best vocalist are on the higher range so they struggle to sing lower than they used to. But if they increase the key, I kinda think it's gonna be to high for the weaker vocalist so I don't know what to do 😂
They can't do both imao😂
which is why I actually agree with them getting more training to expand their vocal range to balance it out and have more stable and stronger vocals.
bro just admit it most of LSF's members have weak vocals like bruh ima hardcore once and i agree some(NOT ALL) of Twice's members need vocal training and its fineee as long as they try and improve thats all that matters so HYBE should give more vocal training to LSF
No yg artists are here and people say they have poor vicals lol
yg artists dont appear on music shows anymore ig.. i read it somewhere idk..
Wonyoung was cryinggg 😭
These things happen sometimes. Ive sounded fine they just broke off in between, idk about Jimin but the earpiece thing does make sense and Momo genuinely looked like she knew she messed up, especially if she started off wrong it's hard to switch key in such a small part
Ive def did actual improvements
Ikr, their I am encores>>>, at least they improved unlike some other groups
This is the thing which matters the most. We love IVE for that
Yep + they were crying soo that's OK
Ofc they did!
If you want a cake:
Almond cake
Ingredients
Cooking spray
2 c. almond flour (224 g.)
1 tsp. baking powder
1/2 tsp. ground cinnamon or ground cardamom
1/2 tsp. kosher salt
4 large eggs
2/3 c. maple syrup
1/4 c. good quality extra-virgin olive oil
1/2 tsp. pure vanilla extract
1 tsp. lemon zest
• Step 1
Preheat oven to 350º with the rack in the middle. Generously coat an 8" springform pan with cooking spray.
• Step 2
In a medium bowl, stir together almond flour, baking powder, cinnamon, and salt.
• Step 3
In a large bowl, whisk eggs, maple syrup, oil, vanilla, and lemon zest until smooth. Mix in dry ingredients with a spoon until combined.
• Step 4
Pour batter into prepared pan and bake until golden all over and firm on top, 30 to 35 minutes.
• Step 5
Run a knife around the edges to loosen and let cool before serving
Once you're finished, you can top it with some Berries or honey whatever you think would be good.
This cake tastes best after 2 to 3 days After being made, I've heard So if you try that, let me know!
Fudge cookies
Ingredients
Cooking spray
• 2 1/2 c. powdered sugar
• 3/4 c. unsweetened cocoa powder
• 1/4 tsp. kosher salt
• 4 cold large egg whites
• 1/2 tsp. pure vanilla extract
• 1 1/2 c. chocolate chips
• Step 1: Preheat oven to 350° and line two baking sheets with parchment paper and very lightly grease with cooking spray. In a large bowl, combine powdered sugar, cocoa powder, and salt.
• Step 2: Stir in egg whites and vanilla then add chocolate chips. For shinier cookies, rest dough at room temperature for 20 minutes. Scoop tablespoon-size mounds onto prepared baking sheets and bake until set, 10 to 12 minutes. Let cool for about 5 minutes on baking sheet then carefully transfer cookies to a cooling rack with a spatula to cool completely.
Cheese cake
Ingredients
• 1 c. quick-cooking oats
• 1/2 c. almonds
• 3/4 c. unsweetened coconut flakes
• 3 tbsp. maple syrup
• 1/4 tsp. kosher salt
• 1/2 c. almond butter
• 3/4 c. coconut milk
• 1 1/4 c. granulated sugar
• 2 c. cashews
• 1/2 c. refined coconut oil, melted, plus more for pan
• 2 tsp. pure vanilla extract
• 1 (8-oz.) container vegan cream cheese
• 3 c. fresh or frozen raspberries
• Step 1: Make the crust: Pulse oats, almonds, and coconut flakes in a food processor until fine crumbs form. Transfer to a medium bowl and fold in maple syrup, salt, and almond butter.
• Step 2: Grease the bottom of a 8" or 9” spring form pan with coconut oil and press crust evenly into bottom of pan.
• Step 3: Make the filling: In a small saucepan over medium heat, mix coconut milk and ¾ cup sugar and heat just until sugar is dissolved. Let cool.
• Step 4: In a high-powered blender, blend soaked cashews, cooled coconut milk mixture, coconut oil, and vanilla until thick and smooth. Blend in vegan cream cheese.
• Step 5: Pour filling mixture into crust and chill in freezer for at least 3 hours and up to overnight.
• Step 6: Make the fruit topping: Bring 2 cups raspberries and remaining 1/2 cup sugar to a low boil over medium heat and continue to simmer until sauce is slightly thickened, about 8 to 10 minutes. Let cool, then fold in remaining 1 cup berries.
• Step 7: Assemble the cake: Remove cheesecake from springform pan and let thaw at room temperature 1 hour before spooning raspberry topping all over top of cake
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MOMO WAS AGHAST😭💀
THE UNFORGIVING ONE GETS ME EVERY TIME😭
I just wish people who were actually talented could debut , small company groups also deserve alot more recognition
Yea hybe rlly did change the kpop industry
Lol💀
The fact that Le sserafim receives critics about their vocals since debut and they never improved is concerning. I still don't know why tf hybe made them perform on coachella since lipsync is prohibited and they never performed live💀. The others here sound off-key, lesserafim doesn't even sound like they are the singers of the song. I love them, but they NEED vocal training.
Kpop used to be a vocals thing now it’s just pretty performance, which isn’t inherently bad but…I miss my singers 😢
I missed Mamamoo's encore
Go and watch exo encore stages bet u will love it
Why only people dragged Momo when the other where bad too?
The title should be *le sserafim feat:other idols*
Momo was like damn😂
Le sserafim really need to focus on their vocals!!!
As an EXO stan , encore stages were never a concern 😂 stan exo , stan talent ✨🏃
"Get started,😮 let's get started
미래 😩그 앞에 😱새겨둬 나의 스토리😡
신념이🧐 죄면 난 🤯villain
I'm not that Cinderella type of a girl😤" will never not be funny to me😭
Momo's face was like what the hell was that sound😂😂😂😂 i think jimin's really was his in ear thing cause you keep seeing him mess with the ear piece
It’s crazy that lessarafim is winning so many awards when they simply can’t sing
IVE being here was unnecessary
Why is it unnecessary when their encore was bad? Or let me guess you just wanted the video to be all about HYBE groups?
@chkyiaroulhac5572 buddy, watch the whole encore and judge, if you don't understand to discriminate between misinformational clips like these , which claim half assed info then you'll get scammed pretty quick
Also your guessing skills are way off
The title says "groups that were criticized" so I'm guessing IVE received a lot of criticism?? Idk since I don't keep up with them but I don't think there was anything wrong with them being in here. Now if it was a different title I'd agree. But that's just how I see it
For the eleven, uf they would have sang while crying again people would have came for them for sounding like that.
i’m seeing some reoccurring themes here… can anyone guess?
lesserafim lmfao
The way this video is like 90% girl groups makes me think OP is misogynistic.
@@blissoos Girl HUH 😭this is the most insane reach ever. OP isn’t misogynistic, the reason why there are so many girl groups here is because boy groups don’t butcher their encores like this because they have harder choreos which means they need to train more to get their singing right.
- lesserafim
- hybe idols
@@blissoos you can't just assume like that, you don't even know the person, it's very unnecessary and rude
Wow. I heard Les Sserafim had bad live vocals but that is borderline ridiculous. And compared to all the others in this edit they were by far the absolute worst!
I went back to listen to more&more after hearing momo's and she literally sounds the same they're just both kinda weird
& mostly are from HYBE lol
hybe isnt actually a bad vocal company. le serrafim is just a different case 😭 it could be their trainer but hybe has great vocal groups 😭
Literally the only group with strong vocals or vocals on general is seventeen and they weren’t even trained by hybe. Tf do you mean “ isn’t actually a bad vocal company”
@dibidibidis3367 girl... fromis_9? Txt? Enhypen? New jeans? If you think they bad you either think mr removed is real, or you just believe in vocal tiers. I can't see any other reason
@@ducky3490 none of those groups are vocally strong, none of those groups even have a vocalist, or a strong singer ( other the main vocalist in fromis_9 idk her name though) I don’t believe this, I know this because I minor in music production and it’s a requirement for me to know and recognize the art of singing and vocalizing. Hope this helps.
@dibidibidis3367 if you don't even know fromis_9 main vocalist how do you know her vocal strength? or any of the groups at that 😭
@@ducky3490 Because I’ve done an analysis on most the active big3+ Hybe groups. I didn’t care to memorize their names.
Always le sserafim
I always thought that momos vocals back then were bad but after hearing Hybe artists…. She’s the best of the video in my opinion
Hybe be like: Vocal training ❌
Abs training ✅
Surprised Mamamoo was not mentioned…. Said no one ever…
All of them sings better then me so stop about criticizing them
I'm sorry I actually love Le Sserafim but you have to admit they NEED to train more. They're artists and singing is their job. I understand people who hate them for this are going too far but constructive criticism isn't bad
Can I make the same video as this video?
Sure!
Ty so much love youuuu
Don't be mean to HYBE artists! They're just farming goats to sacrifice for their cult 😂😂😂😂
Heyy you forget illit add it now 😂
Bro now there is going to be a war in this comment section why did you said the truth?😂
@@Blinkstay....S-Z really what we will do now let's hide it shhh🤫 I didn't said anything and you didn't read anything 😂
@@IshikaJain-po5oi😂🤣
ILLIT IS THE WORST GG IN HYBE ALONGSIDE LE SSERAFIM LOL 😂
@@limjiho true bro 😂
They're all LSF 🤦♂️
no cus IVE’s encores was actually good
Second!
I see... Those are good to know.
WHY IS IT ALWAYS LESSERAFIM😭
Bc Source doesn't care enough to give them proper vocal training
Who are you to judge them? Thier vocals, thier reputation,thier way not yours
Dude read the title and what's literally written ON THE SCREEN, this isn't a "in my opinion" video..
I just wanna say that an encore would mean that they just finished dancing and performing, which is basically an entire workout. Yes, they are standing still, but imagine trying to stand still and sing a short while right after you did a really cardio heavy workout. It's not gonna sound stable---your heart rate hasn't gone down completely and you still are trying to catch your breath.
Okay honestly you all need to chill. Like you don’t know what it’s like for them