Yea I have no idea what happened to the tier list and didn’t put in Black, Jaime, or Cason Funny enough I’d have them all in good starter / role player. Cason can be a true elite 3nD guy one day. Defense is already there. Don’t think he makes an ASG Black has the most AS potential of the 3. But he has to find his role still but can do a lot of things well right now and will continue to improve Jaime has the lowest ceiling because of his age but will always be a solid half court starter for the next 5+ years I apologize about that again I suck for that!
@@JustBaIIin Cason Wallace ceiling is higher than Anthony Black imo… Cason started the year in a shooting slump but last two months he’s been way way more efficient than Black and also is a better defender and athlete. Black has had way more opportunity to seize a significant offensive role and he is inept on that end for the most part… Cason has a lot more offensively to show when given the chance he can playmake and create his own shot a bit not just 3 and D… also their advanced stats aren’t close at all. Black would play zero minutes on the Thunder tbh
Also Andre Jackson Jr. is a starter this season! He’s consistently guarding the best player on the opposing team and is one of the best defenders on the team. That’s decent development. IMO his potential is anywhere between pat bev and jrue holiday
@ the glaze is crazy, he’s putting up 7 ppg on 45% from the field bro better get that shit up if he wants to be a cemented starter. I know he has elite defense but bro is rotating with Isaiah Joe who is another rotational player 💀 Cason Wallaces peak is a 6th man I’ll put my house on it thanks for the free money
Scoot’s been looking solid lately. Even though they lost to the Thunder tonight, he put up a 25 point game with 5 assists. His teammate Toumani put up a 24 point 9 rebound, 4 assist game in this one as well.
youve redeemed yourself in my mind for the Blazers (basically the scoot henderson) Love. And that young lineup of Scoot, Sharpe, Camara, Deni, Clingan should be really fun next year
In the latest game even though the box score didn’t really show it, scoot still had a really good game for his standards it’s just that he was being very unselfish (maybe a bit too unselfish) but still it looked like the game has slowed down for him and he’s not making his bonehead plays anymore
Jarace has actually looked incredible in the minutes he's gotten the past 2 months. His defensive gambles are less costly, he's guarding his man well, his hands are incredible, he's shown flashes of amazing connective passing, and he's hitting from deep. He's making a strong case to take minutes from Obi, Sheppard, or Nesmith. At his ceiling he could be a more offensively talented (and less dirty) Draymond
You don't know about Tarik Biberovic because even though he was drafted, he is currently still playing in Turkey for Fenerbahce. He had an ongoing contract when he was drafted, so he was allowed to continue playing overseas. He is one of the best players in the Turkish League and the Euroleague right now.
Cam Whitmore has all star potential. If he was on a bad team like the hornets, he’d be averaging close to 25 ppg on good efficiency, but you have an inefficient one dimensional chucker in miller ranked as all NBA.
Scoot is so over hated rn like he is still athletic and a great playmaker with good mechanics and form on his jumper just needs more minutes and reps as well as confidence
Yeah, the numbers aren’t there but he has been really solid in his development. Per 36 his numbers are almost identical to Keegan Murray’s this year. Definitely has a future as a role player
Coming from a Pacers fan idk how Jarace could have taken a step back when he’s already played more games than he did the whole season last year plus doubled his averages. He’s a great defender and you can tell he’s really been working on that shot. A bit inconsistent but he’s young atleast he’s putting in that work in other areas of his game.
Dariq asked the Nets to let him play more in the G league to develop this year and to try to maximize his reps because he’s working on getting his athleticism back, even had a poster in the g league. He should play in the nba tonight though which could be exciting.
Lively can definitely shoot, the coach just isn't using him as a 3 point shooter heavily. His form looks good though and he can make them in practice, so I think he's going to eventually be a nice play finisher in the pick and roll while being able to pop as a mix-p and make defenses pay.
What’s up Matt, I suggested this on your Six Rings of Steel channel and don’t know if you checked it out or not but I would highly recommend trying out zen basketball gm. It’s a free and amazing basketball game that has gotten SO much better over the years thanks to the many contributors to the game. I personally like it better than 2k because it’s more challenging and the trades and free agents asking price are WAY more realistic. You have to manage a budget and can get fired if you spend too much money or are bad for too long. If you do give it a go, I know myself and a big community of basketball gm fans would love to see you try it on like the second channel. Some tips: - The overalls look very different than 2k, where players overall and potential can range from 0-100. The gm manual will show you that 70 overalls are typically the best players in the league and 50 overalls are role players. A bit to getting used to but makes more sense as you play. (Some overalls you see MAY be different than the real overalls if your scouting budget isn’t high) - Potential is not a guaranteed overall the player will reach, it can go up and down during player progression. It’s hard to explain but basically the players career is simulated like 50 times and the average overall is the potential or something like that - I suggest that you use an ad blocker ONLY if you make a video to make it look better. Since it’s a free game, it’s good to support the creators by using ads but they don’t care if you use one. - Trading block is similar to trade finder in 2k - You can use real players or auto generated players (which is what I usually do). - BE CAREFUL about spending too much money because you CAN get fired if you lose a lot of money or are bad for too long As a long time viewer, it would be really awesome to see a rebuild on this game and I hope you give it a try. If you don’t end up making a video, at least give it a try and let me know what you think of it. Thank you for the content over the years and I wish you all the best.
Unpopular opinion but I do believe that Ausar has a higher ceiling than Amen. Both are great but Ausar is better on defense and I think that the offensive aspect of basketball can take time to acquire, while the defensive aspect is more inherent
I believe you missed Jaime Jaquez, Jr. In the 2023 draft class. Frustrating that one of a handful of Latinos in the NBA he was overlooked. All Rookie first team…. Not as productive this year but will play more during and after the Butler fiasco.
This probably would have been easier for you if you made MVP/All-NBA as the top tier and separated Starter and Role Player into their own tiers. Having one tier between All-Star and Role Player is too wide
No such a difference between Amen and Ausar especially considering that Ausar missed too many games due to blood clot issue and still play under minutes restriction. He’s still doing great and I believe his shot will be better than his twin.
Gradey Dick is a solid player but I don’t think he has any standout traits to make him have All-Star upside… he’s a 5th starter type or maybe 4th imo. Good not elite shooter, below average but not terrible defensively, good not great athlete…
As a realistic Laker fan I hope JHS either finds a way to get on the court or finds another opportunity but man he doesn’t even look good in the g league… Also as a UConn fan I wish we woulda traded up for Jordan Hawkins or he woulda fell one more spot because I feel like that is who they wanted and that’s who I wanted I just want to be excited for a rookie for once
So Lively AKA Deandre Jordan is going to be an Allstar but a 3 month older 17ppp in a shitty offense wont be one? I dont understand the hype with Lively at all. Gradey needs to improve his defense, no doubt about that, but offensively is way ahead of Coulibaly and Lively and offense is what gets you in the All Star
Cam Whitmore an All-Star if Lively and Dick are on the list. Whitmore has led the Rockets to wins. You can’t say Lively or Dick carried their respective teams.
Yea I have no idea what happened to the tier list and didn’t put in Black, Jaime, or Cason
Funny enough I’d have them all in good starter / role player.
Cason can be a true elite 3nD guy one day. Defense is already there. Don’t think he makes an ASG
Black has the most AS potential of the 3. But he has to find his role still but can do a lot of things well right now and will continue to improve
Jaime has the lowest ceiling because of his age but will always be a solid half court starter for the next 5+ years
I apologize about that again I suck for that!
@@JustBaIIin Cason Wallace ceiling is higher than Anthony Black imo… Cason started the year in a shooting slump but last two months he’s been way way more efficient than Black and also is a better defender and athlete. Black has had way more opportunity to seize a significant offensive role and he is inept on that end for the most part… Cason has a lot more offensively to show when given the chance he can playmake and create his own shot a bit not just 3 and D… also their advanced stats aren’t close at all. Black would play zero minutes on the Thunder tbh
Also Andre Jackson Jr. is a starter this season! He’s consistently guarding the best player on the opposing team and is one of the best defenders on the team. That’s decent development. IMO his potential is anywhere between pat bev and jrue holiday
@@bkelly625maybe . But Black is taller and very young and his game is very clever . Time will tell .
In 5 years, you should rank your videos where you ranked the draft classes
React*
10 years after that, you should rank the videos where you ranked the videos where you ranked the draft the classes
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I don’t think lively will ever be an all star I think his ceiling is a good starter
He’s the very definition of a role player. He’s an oop specialist. The glazing is wild
he might be the DeAndre Jordan of the 2020s 😂
might have one of those seasons playing alongside an all-time playmaker
Dude is literally the same player as Gafford
@@fpl_djhammerluka is already an all time playmaker lol but yeah he might one day average close to 18 points with 12 boards and some blocks
You missed important guys like Black Jaime and Wallace. Should’ve just done this list based on draft order instead of random player pictures spawning.
Facts. I click on this list for Wallace lol
He missed 3 future role players? boohoo, Wallace MIGHT become a starter
@@roccoallabach1808Wallace has been a starter pretty consistently on the thunder this season lmfao
@ the glaze is crazy, he’s putting up 7 ppg on 45% from the field bro better get that shit up if he wants to be a cemented starter. I know he has elite defense but bro is rotating with Isaiah Joe who is another rotational player 💀 Cason Wallaces peak is a 6th man I’ll put my house on it thanks for the free money
@@roccoallabach1808he is a starter right now
Man no Cason Wallace??😢
Gradey disrespect is crazy the leap he has taken this season from 8ppg to 16ppg is not something to overlook
but idk about allstar though.
@@kingdinodragonite3470 borderline star fs all star is lowkey not what it used to be
disrespectful to call him a potential All-Star?!
who tf u think he gonna be, Devin Booker??? 💀💀
why can't he ? hes 21 in his second season having the same effiency as book in his sophmore season not the same volume but my point stands.
Scoot’s been looking solid lately. Even though they lost to the Thunder tonight, he put up a 25 point game with 5 assists. His teammate Toumani put up a 24 point 9 rebound, 4 assist game in this one as well.
No other ball youtuber has the work ethic u do. Been watching u since i was 17, im 22 now. Shoutout to u man, we appreciate you!
Keyonte is already a solid started in the league and he just turned 21 years old. He'll be all-star caliber in a couple seasons.
youve redeemed yourself in my mind for the Blazers (basically the scoot henderson) Love. And that young lineup of Scoot, Sharpe, Camara, Deni, Clingan should be really fun next year
In the latest game even though the box score didn’t really show it, scoot still had a really good game for his standards it’s just that he was being very unselfish (maybe a bit too unselfish) but still it looked like the game has slowed down for him and he’s not making his bonehead plays anymore
Fax he was cooking on the defensive end aswell
Where's Jaquez?
Should be in Miami
Rayan rupert will be a solid nba guy imo. its just billups who somehow plays banton ahead of him
Where’s Anthony Black?
Jarace has actually looked incredible in the minutes he's gotten the past 2 months. His defensive gambles are less costly, he's guarding his man well, his hands are incredible, he's shown flashes of amazing connective passing, and he's hitting from deep. He's making a strong case to take minutes from Obi, Sheppard, or Nesmith. At his ceiling he could be a more offensively talented (and less dirty) Draymond
You don't know about Tarik Biberovic because even though he was drafted, he is currently still playing in Turkey for Fenerbahce. He had an ongoing contract when he was drafted, so he was allowed to continue playing overseas. He is one of the best players in the Turkish League and the Euroleague right now.
GG could definitely get an all star iykyk
Bruno cabolco 2 years away from being 2 years away is such a good line lmao
Cam Whitmore has all star potential. If he was on a bad team like the hornets, he’d be averaging close to 25 ppg on good efficiency, but you have an inefficient one dimensional chucker in miller ranked as all NBA.
So Cam would be scoring more than Cade, Victor and Kyrie with that .327 from 3 if he was on a bad team????
Yikes!!!
Scoot is so over hated rn like he is still athletic and a great playmaker with good mechanics and form on his jumper just needs more minutes and reps as well as confidence
Kris Murray is actually playing pretty well. Change of scenery, maybe, but definitely has a solid ceiling of role player.
Yeah, the numbers aren’t there but he has been really solid in his development. Per 36 his numbers are almost identical to Keegan Murray’s this year. Definitely has a future as a role player
@@joshuabradshaw9257 Kris is a dawg on defense too. He often plays gets minutes in spit of his offense just to slow down the other team's best wings.
Coming from a Pacers fan idk how Jarace could have taken a step back when he’s already played more games than he did the whole season last year plus doubled his averages. He’s a great defender and you can tell he’s really been working on that shot. A bit inconsistent but he’s young atleast he’s putting in that work in other areas of his game.
Dariq asked the Nets to let him play more in the G league to develop this year and to try to maximize his reps because he’s working on getting his athleticism back, even had a poster in the g league. He should play in the nba tonight though which could be exciting.
I’m so happy I found this channel. I used to watch a guy on a channel called SROS but this dude is way cooler than that guy.
Lively can definitely shoot, the coach just isn't using him as a 3 point shooter heavily. His form looks good though and he can make them in practice, so I think he's going to eventually be a nice play finisher in the pick and roll while being able to pop as a mix-p and make defenses pay.
What’s up Matt, I suggested this on your Six Rings of Steel channel and don’t know if you checked it out or not but I would highly recommend trying out zen basketball gm.
It’s a free and amazing basketball game that has gotten SO much better over the years thanks to the many contributors to the game. I personally like it better than 2k because it’s more challenging and the trades and free agents asking price are WAY more realistic. You have to manage a budget and can get fired if you spend too much money or are bad for too long. If you do give it a go, I know myself and a big community of basketball gm fans would love to see you try it on like the second channel.
Some tips:
- The overalls look very different than 2k, where players overall and potential can range from 0-100. The gm manual will show you that 70 overalls are typically the best players in the league and 50 overalls are role players. A bit to getting used to but makes more sense as you play. (Some overalls you see MAY be different than the real overalls if your scouting budget isn’t high)
- Potential is not a guaranteed overall the player will reach, it can go up and down during player progression. It’s hard to explain but basically the players career is simulated like 50 times and the average overall is the potential or something like that
- I suggest that you use an ad blocker ONLY if you make a video to make it look better. Since it’s a free game, it’s good to support the creators by using ads but they don’t care if you use one.
- Trading block is similar to trade finder in 2k
- You can use real players or auto generated players (which is what I usually do).
- BE CAREFUL about spending too much money because you CAN get fired if you lose a lot of money or are bad for too long
As a long time viewer, it would be really awesome to see a rebuild on this game and I hope you give it a try. If you don’t end up making a video, at least give it a try and let me know what you think of it. Thank you for the content over the years and I wish you all the best.
@JustBallin Re-do the 2024 nba draft because I think Kelel if he plays will be the only dude who can be a bonafide multi time all star
Unpopular opinion but I do believe that Ausar has a higher ceiling than Amen. Both are great but Ausar is better on defense and I think that the offensive aspect of basketball can take time to acquire, while the defensive aspect is more inherent
I believe you missed Jaime Jaquez, Jr. In the 2023 draft class.
Frustrating that one of a handful of Latinos in the NBA he was overlooked.
All Rookie first team….
Not as productive this year but will play more during and after the Butler fiasco.
Nick Smith Jr 2k23 Sonic franchise legend
This probably would have been easier for you if you made MVP/All-NBA as the top tier and separated Starter and Role Player into their own tiers. Having one tier between All-Star and Role Player is too wide
No such a difference between Amen and Ausar especially considering that Ausar missed too many games due to blood clot issue and still play under minutes restriction. He’s still doing great and I believe his shot will be better than his twin.
ANOTHER DROP FROM SROS THE GOAT
yeahhhhh w rankings
Gradey Dick is a solid player but I don’t think he has any standout traits to make him have All-Star upside… he’s a 5th starter type or maybe 4th imo. Good not elite shooter, below average but not terrible defensively, good not great athlete…
on bb ref if you hover over the "more" tab it'll take you to bilals international stats
Keyontae george will be an all star cmon now
Cason erasure is crazy 😭
They’ve said lively will start shooting 3s I expect season 3 we will see him stretch the floor more
bro pronounced Ausar correctly 🙏😭
2023 NBA ReDraft
1. Spurs- Victor Wembanyama-1aa
2. Hornets- Amen Thompson-1a
3. Blazers- Brandon Miller-1a
4. Rockets- Ausar Thompson-1a
5. Pistons- Cam Whitmore-1b
6. Magic- GG Jackson-1b
7. Pacers- Dereck Lively II-1b
8. Wizards- Bilal Coulibaly-1b
9. Jazz- Scoot Henderson-1b
10. Mavs- Cason Wallace-1c
11. Magic- Keyonte George-1c
12. Thunder- Taylor Hendricks-1c
13. Raptors- Gradey Dick-1c
14. Pelicans- Jarace Walker-1c
15. Hawks- Brandin Podziemski-2a
16. Jazz- Brice Sensabaugh -2a
17. Lakers- Toumani Camara-2a
18. Heat- Jaime Jaquez Jr.-2a
19. Warriors- Anthony Black-2a
20. Rockets- Julian Strawther-2b
21. Nets- Noah Clowney- 2b
22. Nets- Nick Smith Jr.-2b
23. Blazers- Trayce Jackson-Davis-2b
24. Mavs- Ben Sheppard-2b
25. Pistons- Marcus Sasser-2b
26. Pacers- Julian Phillips-2b
27. Hornets- Leonard Miller-2c
28. Jazz- Andre Jackson Jr.-2c
29. Nuggets- Jordan Hawkins-2c
30. Clippers- Jordan Miller-2c
Bro what? Scoot at 9 is wild lol dudes ballin
@ 9 might be too low u right
Cason wallace has to be A+ man is starter for okc
I agree , I would swap Sccot to 6 and move GG to 9. Great job!
As a Blazers fan, you should put Toumani over Brandin Podziemski at least, unless you're factoring age.
Brandon miller is 6’9?? I thought he was a cool 6’6 that’s crazy lmao
Sidy Cisoko gonna prove you wrong
As a realistic Laker fan I hope JHS either finds a way to get on the court or finds another opportunity but man he doesn’t even look good in the g league…
Also as a UConn fan I wish we woulda traded up for Jordan Hawkins or he woulda fell one more spot because I feel like that is who they wanted and that’s who I wanted
I just want to be excited for a rookie for once
Where Jamie Jaquez?
Where’s Jaime Jacquez? 4th place as rookie of the year.
I'm confident saying Bilal will never be an all-star. those shooting splits are awful and they've only gotten worse from his rookie year.
Ausar all star potential, dpoy potential
Your too high on lively
I think keyonte George makes 2 all star games in 5 years
Anthony Black?
Why does amen impress u more than year 2 Scottie??
Ppl sleeping on Ausar
Cason wallace all nba potential
bilal, lively, strawther, keyonte, hawkins, and miller are one tier too high. Move podz up one tier as well.
Portland traded Josh Hart for the #23 pick Kris Murray.
somehow Blazer fans are still smootching their GM
CASON WALLACE????
So Lively AKA Deandre Jordan is going to be an Allstar but a 3 month older 17ppp in a shitty offense wont be one? I dont understand the hype with Lively at all. Gradey needs to improve his defense, no doubt about that, but offensively is way ahead of Coulibaly and Lively and offense is what gets you in the All Star
Lively ain't making all star
Where’s Cason Wallace
Cason Wallace?
Jordan Walsh in doesn’t look good is beyond me. Must not be watching the same minutes.
Where's Jaime?!
Ausur will be All-Defensive why don’t you move him up for us.
Ausar not being on all star is crazy😂😂😂
Your trippin if you think Grady Dick is better than Ausar Thompson
You forgot so many high end guys but named 30 guys we've never heard of and will be out of the league in a year. Terrible video ngl
Kris Murray will have a long career. Big miss on your evaluation.
miller > amen
Brandon Miller out for the season 😢
Ant Black?
Andre Jackson's inconsistent minutes he is because doc is a dumb dumb
I guess Jaquez died
Cam Whitmore an All-Star if Lively and Dick are on the list. Whitmore has led the Rockets to wins. You can’t say Lively or Dick carried their respective teams.
Livley did it in the finals and is top 10 in blocks at the age of 20
I agree but what if Whitmore was given the play time as Lively? Lively landed in an excellent spot. Both are great but Whitmore has alpha-qualities.
@ whitmore has great scoring upside but i don’t think he has cemented himself in the league like livley has
Gradey def has a higher ceiling than Bilal and Lively, his 3 ball is starting to fall and now hes learning how to get to the rim!
Scottie at bust tier is OD
No Cason Wallace? if you're going to make a video, at least do it right. Now I can't trust your stuff and I was enjoying it.
@@zeebot9 mute up
Ehhhh I’m early