Extreme VHS Restoration: Home Video Edition
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2024
- For a few years I fell down the rabbit hole of VHS conversions methods. This video highlights my current methods for restoring old VHS home videos. I hope some of this information is useful and can help preserve some memories. As always, thanks for watching!
Here are a few videos that got me started and are excellent sources for understanding the complex parts of analog to digital conversion.
• The Best Easy Way to C...
• How Long Do VHS Tapes ...
• S-Video Fully Explaine...
• Macrovision: The Copy...
• The ULTIMATE VHS Captu...
0:00 - Intro
1:23 - Control Conversion Method
3:12 - Medium Effort Conversion Method
8:49 - Extreme Effort Conversion Method
12:25 - Extreme Effort Conversion Method Review
13:03 - Final Comparison - Навчання та стиль
This is a GREAT video! You deserve more subscribers! keep it up!
Thank you!
Just found your channel. Long live the algorithm! Subscribed.
Really fantastic video - thanks for walking through everything so helpfully!
First, LOVE this. I'm working on a documentary and restoring old footage, audio, etc. This was very helpful. The Topaz AI topic may have saved me a TON of wrestling with that software.
I also want to share some of my successes. In trying to fix Audio specifically, both with a very old black & white VHS and a digitized Casette recording I discovered that Logic Pro has a new Stem Seperation feature. This turned out to be MAGICAL. On the VHS I had a persistant loud hum that was making it really hard to hear dialogue/speech. Later in the tape there's live music which overpowered the hum. Logic Pro completely isolated the dialgoue and put hum/music on a seperate track. I actually just realized I could have told it to do more track seperation but since it uses musical terminology I only considered "Vocals" and "Other" hoping it would recognize HUM as "Other". It did.
2nd Success: Casette tape of dad singing over piano player. The piano was competely overpowering him in the recording. Logic Pro VERY cleanly seperated the vocals and piano. I was able to put both Stems back on my FCP X timeline and just raise the vocals and lower the piano to rebalance. No more spiking and no more useless attempts to improve the sound in FCP X alone. It can do great things but not like Logic Pro. Wow.
Hope that helps someone! Maybe worth a try on old VHS restoration where the audio is suffering.
The quality of the VCR you capture from is the first component that needs to be the best it can be. I have an LG vcr / dvd unit with hdmi output, but the parts used (in particular the audio head and tension arms) are trash compared to my higher quality jvc vcrs, that have s video outputs. Scaling vhs just sucks.
Also, you can deinterlace the avi in premiere and compress to h264 in one process
Thanks for the feedback!
I've run into a lot of little roadblocks along the way as far as hardware limitations. For this video, I wanted to focus on the most accessible and budget friendly versions of advanced restoration.
Going forward, I'm definitely going to research how to put together a better capture system overall.
@@BrennensBudgetBuilds also, you may not need the splitter if the Elgato has a HDMI output pass through. Plug the pass through output into your computer monitor and it should handshake.
Amazing work. You did a great job explaining and showcasing your methods. I’m currently using an S-VHS vcr then running the video into the A/v port port of a camcorder and using the DV in/out FireWire port from that camcorder into a Sony MC3 or 5 (I can’t remember which) standalone dvd recorder which has a dv in port . I then take those DVD’s and burn them into my pc using handbrake. It’s messy with a bunch of cables but the results have been much more pleasant than straightforward VCR plugged into my Mac using Roxio software. I could also skip the camcorder but the audio sounds a bit better when I do it that way. I could be wrong but I’m just going with what my eyes and ears feel is more pleasant.
I enjoyed your video, it was really detailed. You're going to my watchlist.
What do you think about VHS-Decode method? Do you find it as extreme effort method or easier? Cheers!
Thank you I appreciate it! I'm not very familiar with the VHS-Decode method but I'll add your videos to my list of things to watch.
For this video I really wanted to showcase an affordable and accessible alternative for a "Higher-than-average-quality" VHS transfer. My end goal was to highlight the medium method as a perfectly good alternative without a huge financial investment or time sink. The extreme effort method was mostly just an example of how someone could spend many hours of effort with very little difference to show for it in the end.
@@BrennensBudgetBuilds Yeah, I totally understand extreme efforts shown in here.
When archiving VHS I started to face problems like unstable signal, dropped frames caused by hardware hiccups or inserted due to how different device clocks can drift away. I discovered first LD-Decode project as the most geekest method of taking tape contents directly to digital storage and then process that stuff with minimal loss and processing involved and then started tinkering with cheap hardware solutions intended for it during my VHS ripping adventure of TV recordings.
@@Zcooger A time base corrector can help.
@@debranchelowtone Yes, I used to use Panasonic DMR-ES10 as passthrough however it never entirely helped to get rid of sync issues of capture card.
@@Zcooger Then frame synchroniser maybe.
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odd, last time i tried topaz (which i admit was years ago) it had a model trained specifically for low-res interlaced video. have you considered rendering to a slightly higher quality then cropping down to 720p or something with image stabilization?
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First don't get your informations from UA-cam videos, do actual research.
First store tapes correctly, not in cave or attic, standard room temperature, vertical position, staked like books.
Use good SVHS VCR, not normal VHS, so you get better comb filter and better mechanical parts
Don't use the S-video plug, it is not necessary. The VHS tape doesn't contain Y/C signal, it is composite all along, so just stick with composite on the RCA or SCART plug. S-video won't improve the signal, this is a myth.
Don't use HDMI converters, they are usually bad too.
Most important thing, use a TBC, time base corrector, it will fix the picture, no more wobbling effect.
For the computer side.
Digitize in 4:2:2 format, use ProRes or DNxHD codecs.
No need to remove hiss from audio this way, it can remove acutal sound information. This is not restoration is going beyond.
If the audio track is hi-fi, do nothing, if it's not, just mesure the higher frequency and apply a low pass filter.
Also use 48 kHz sample rate.
Don't use AI, this is not necessary at all and can be harmful too.
Deinterlace with QTGMC, it is possible to do this with Hybrid.
The file being digitized in 720×480 or 720×576 has black bars on the sides. Center the picture in a 704×480 or 704×576 projet and export.
And it's done.
If you need to use the video in a HD or UHD project, then upscale with Shutter Encoder, set it with Lanczos method, it preserves detail.
Use Rec601 to Rec709 or Rec2020 for the colour space.
If you need to compress to outdated H.264 or new H.265 or VP9, then use Shutter Encoder too.
Keep the original tape just in case
You are right they do have models specifically for low-res interlaced video, but based on my experience I assumed it wasn't trained with anywhere near as much video as the HD and 4k models. It still really seems like the core program is designed around modern footage since that what the company is advertising as its strength.
Use s-vcr with s-video cable's and get rid of those composites cable's ir use a TIME BASE CORRECTOR AND U WILL REALLY SEE A DIFFERENCE
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Gracias lo aprecio!
Thanks I appreciate it!
that A looks more like ANARCHY!!
Shhh that's suppose to be a secret!
@@BrennensBudgetBuilds LOVE IT!!!
Imagine good deinterlacer (I’m currently change dvd from chain to that Kramer scalers, then good capture card that can provide 4:4:4 10bit rgb) and yours method will give 10/10 😅
Great video!..thanks!...maybe I'd change some things, like the VHS heads cleaning method, then I'd use a good Svhs unit and capture from the Svhs output, then something like QTGMC for deinterlacing, then the neat plugin then something like Real-Esrgan for that little AI upsampling/sharpening...greetings!
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I'm currently capturing my old family Hi8 tapes, I bought a Hi8 camcorder with S-vhs out... I then plugged that to a svhs to hdmi female that also upscales to 720p and 1080p. Then I plug a hdmi from that to a used Átomos Ninja Blade hdmi in, that records to removable SSD at Apple prores LT or prores 422, I want apple prores as I'm going to do heavy color grading, sharpening, and then de noise in premiere pro. I need my pc free from capturing so I use the Átomos. Don't know if that helps anyone 😎
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He keeps deleting the messages !
This message was censored many times
So i have to write it again. I hope it won't get deleted again !
First don't get your informations from UA-cam videos, do actual research.
First store tapes correctly, not in cave or attic, standard room temperature, vertical position, staked like books.
Use good SVHS VCR, not normal VHS, so you get better comb filter and better mechanical parts
Don't use the S-video plug, it is not necessary. The VHS tape doesn't contain Y/C signal, it is composite all along, so just stick with composite on the RCA or SCART plug. S-video won't improve the signal, this is a myth.
Don't use HDMI converters, they are usually bad too.
Most important thing, use a TBC, time base corrector, it will fix the picture, no more wobbling effect.
For the computer side.
Digitize in 4:2:2 format, use ProRes or DNxHD codecs.
No need to remove hiss from audio this way, it can remove acutal sound information. This is not restoration is going beyond.
If the audio track is hi-fi, do nothing, if it's not, just mesure the higher frequency and apply a low pass filter.
Also use 48 kHz sample rate.
Don't use AI, this is not necessary at all and can be harmful too.
Deinterlace with QTGMC, it is possible to do this with Hybrid.
The file being digitized in 720×480 or 720×576 has black bars on the sides. Center the picture in a 704×480 or 704×576 projet and export.
And it's done.
If you need to use the video in a HD or UHD project, then upscale with Shutter Encoder, set it with Lanczos method, it preserves detail.
Use Rec601 to Rec709 or Rec2020 for the colour space.
If you need to compress to outdated H.264 or new H.265 or VP9, then use Shutter Encoder too.
Keep the original tape just in case
@debranchelowtone I have not deleted any comments. I believe UA-cam filters some comments for review depending on the contented without my knowledge. I will see if I can investigate why your comments aren't being shown.
@@BrennensBudgetBuilds Ah, i thought it was you, this is weird, i don't get this problem elsewhere.
@@BrennensBudgetBuilds I wonder what UA-cam can filter out of technical informations. This can actually help you to get even better result with this system.
@@debranchelowtoneI just started with archiving some rare V-Cinema tapes and using an adapter to OBS. Deinterlace with Yabris, 720x480 and the output to 720x540 for 4x3. What software and adapter do you highly recommend.
This video shows everything you should not do to get good results.
Thanks for letting us know. Would you care to point us in the direction of the way to better results? Perhaps a video of your own? Now, that would be useful...
@@laststraw9363 I wrote a second message under this one explaining what to do but it was deleted.
@@laststraw9363 So i have to write it again. I hope it won't get deleted again !
First don't get your informations from UA-cam videos, do actual research.
First store tapes correctly, not in cave or attic, standard room temperature, vertical position, staked like books.
Use good SVHS VCR, not normal VHS, so you get better comb filter and better mechanical parts
Don't use the S-video plug, it is not necessary. The VHS tape doesn't contain Y/C signal, it is composite all along, so just stick with composite on the RCA or SCART plug. S-video won't improve the signal, this is a myth.
Don't use HDMI converters, they are usually bad too.
Most important thing, use a TBC, time base corrector, it will fix the picture, no more wobbling effect.
For the computer side.
Digitize in 4:2:2 format, use ProRes or DNxHD codecs.
No need to remove hiss from audio this way, it can remove acutal sound information. This is not restoration is going beyond.
If the audio track is hi-fi, do nothing, if it's not, just mesure the higher frequency and apply a low pass filter.
Also use 48 kHz sample rate.
Don't use AI, this is not necessary at all and can be harmful too.
Deinterlace with QTGMC, it is possible to do this with Hybrid.
The file being digitized in 720×480 or 720×576 has black bars on the sides. Center the picture in a 704×480 or 704×576 projet and export.
And it's done.
If you need to use the video in a HD or UHD project, then upscale with Shutter Encoder, set it with Lanczos method, it preserves detail.
If you need to compress to outdated H.264 or new H.265 or VP9, then use Shutter Encoder too.
Keep the original tape just in case
@BrennensBudgetBuilds i hope this can help you to get better results.
@BrennensBudgetBuilds Why did you delete his comment? He told you the direction already but you deleted it! Thumbs down to your video.
@BrennensBudgetBuilds Why did you delete debrachelowtone's comment? HE TOLD YOU WHAT TO DO TO IMPROVE there is still a better way you just didn't care to listen to professional advice
I thought ytube had been deleting a lot of comments lately