If you read those early beat poets you can find a lot of lines that later inspired Dylan. Burroughs had a line that went something like “if you’re not growing then you’re dying”. I think that inspired the later, superior Dylan line which is “if you’re not busy being born you’re busy dying”
Jack has been gone for 66 years tomorrow. I visited his grave on the day of his passing 9 years ago, my husband and I, then we got salad and spaghetti at the restaurant across the street.
If I ever got to meet someone like Dylan I think I'd faint man. Seriously. I studied Dylan , studied his influences from when he was unknown , stuff he first got into when he went to New York, latter years stuff.... I'm not an obsessive fan at all I couldn't tell you half his albums, what's more interesting to me is DYLAN the GUY more than his music, cause I see him as a Keuroac, as a Ginsberg. As something way beyond music. Idk...idk what I'm trying to say and neither does anyone when it comes to Dylan. I just ... man it would be so great though.
I had a professor who was a famous poet. He swore that to his ear, Dylan was the reincarnation of famous Irish poets. That opened my eyes (and ears) to Dylan. I never heard him the same way again.
Dylan was very intelligent, and quite a talented poet, but the difference between Kerouac and Dylan, is Kerouac was true, he was sincere, he didn’t try to create a persona, jack was jack, Dylan on the other hand fabricated a lot of his background in interviews to create a mystique and intrigue about him especially in the early days, when he first arrived in New York.
A couple of years ago, I had an opportunity to lay a bouquet of roses on Kerouac's grave. In the graveyard, they now have a big memorial marker that seems like it marks a grave; I think they're trying to keep people from walking on the graves and I don't blame them. All kinds of tributes are left around that marker; bottles of wine and books and cigarettes, pencils and blank paper, letters to him bound lightly etc. I went and set down the flowers and thought about him beside the ground marker grave, for a while. My sister patiently waited and after a while I got up and we left.
He's slightly guiding & instructing him 'bout guidepost for BD' down journey ( mentoring)..cannot read Bob's inner response (still waters run deep) Feel A.H. had only good intentions toward guiding & broadening BD's awareness of t Poet Masters
Just yesterday I was listening a 2 DVD BD Rolling Thunder Revue with an Unreleased concert footage from Renaldo & Clara recorded in Montreal 4thdec.' 75 ; Cambridge , MA 20thnov.'75 ; Boston 21st nov Late Show and Clinton ,NJ 7th dec.'75 ( 1st versión Knockin' on Heaven's Door) .. Here comes too Hard Rain US TV (Colorado 23may'76) and Hard Rain Japanese TV ; and a rejected TV special recorded at the Starlight Ballroom in the Belleview Biltmore Hotel , Clearwater, Florida (22 nd april '76) .... Just an snack before the great official reléase on 12 Juni ....
Or rather is it an insight into Ginsburg's knowledge and interest in poetry and how Dylan just stood there and perhaps listened or perhaps didn't. I personally think Ginsburg used Dylan to make himself more famous with the younger generation that was following Dylan. It seems history has given Ginsburg a pass on this.
Dylan says, "No, I won't be in an unmarked grave." I don' know if that' s because he wants to be cremated, or just a statement that we, the masses, won't allow him privacy/solitude even in death. We'll make a shrine out it..........
One night after a lecture, Allen Ginsberg went with my uncle and friends to my uncles cabin and talked and drank all night. They called their brother ( my dad) who’d been working on his dissertation on Ginsburg. They handed the phone to my dad and Ginsburg said “Hello John” and they talked for a long time. The end.
Very nice tour of the Grotto. Mother Mary and all. I think they also walk past #9 where Jack lived. I went to the city of St Jean (Lowell) once a long time ago. I wish I had the eyes I have now, then. I was young and didn't fully understand what Dylan, The Beatles, Steely Dan and a million other bands were actually writing songs about. We all hear songs from many different artists about Kerouac and the other Beats. Dylan's entire career has played out most of the adventures or misadventures chronicled in the books written by Kerouac and the other Beats. It's apparent that he absorbed them and translated them for us to reflect on our own lives and times.
Swingin’ Pig I mean it’s the same but there’s a big jack stone there now ...really nice .. they went almost at sundown I usually go in the afternoon noon
Stella Kerouac died in 1990 and is also buried in the Lowell cemetery. I wonder why they didn't put her death date on the headstone, unless she is not buried with Jack Kerouac.
@@dondamon4669 When you have husband and wife plots, when the spouse that dies after the first one dies, then the date is added when he or she is buried next to their spouse. My mother died 20 years after my father. She had a plot waiting for her next to my dad and her date of death was added when she died. If she had re-married and was not buried next to my dad then there never would have been a death date added for her.
This is such a beautiful fucking Video, i'm a Keuroac fan, here's Bob Dylan a dude than influenced movements, fucking MOVEMENTS, fucking rights movements , man did speeches and concerts next to Dr. Martin Luther King with Ginssberg, at Keuroacs grave. There is nothing I admire more in another man that true Intellectualship, not pretending to be like say Jordan Peterson and his shills, but a R E A L Intellectual.
Oh! Lord let us to die in our footsteps & keep our grave clean & pure for all the rest of the days until a Hard Rain's a' gonna fall & the whole world Will sink into the Ocean!
''There's artists who can wrest us up, & place us into their art. These; Now These are the 'One's Who' continue to wrest us up... Even beyond their rests in peace.'' -William Gilpin 10919 Stay thirsty for these ''One's Who'' my friends. For they are the Assuagers of our Spiritual Thirsts.
Here are some people from Lowell , Massachusetts PRIDE...…..en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lowell,_Massachusettsen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Kerouac ,en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bette_Davis, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympia_Dukakis, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Abbott_McNeill_Whistler,en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Kelly,en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micky_Ward, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Tsongas,en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Grimes,en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_Bradley,here johnning en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_McMahon,en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Sullivan_(American_football),en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Butler…..en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Wang,en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moxie,en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CVS_Pharmacy
I was sidestage at a Dylan show and there stood Allen Ginsberg . So I went up and talked to him . Real nice guy .
That's cool!!
He seems like an easy guy to talk to, very average
There has got to be more to this story. To start, what did you guys talk about?
What did he talk about about?
Awful post 0/10 recommended
If you read those early beat poets you can find a lot of lines that later inspired Dylan. Burroughs had a line that went something like “if you’re not growing then you’re dying”. I think that inspired the later, superior Dylan line which is “if you’re not busy being born you’re busy dying”
Excellent correlation.
Jack has been gone for 66 years tomorrow. I visited his grave on the day of his passing 9 years ago, my husband and I, then we got salad and spaghetti at the restaurant across the street.
Yes. Truly three mortal and immortal poets here reflecting...
If I ever got to meet someone like Dylan I think I'd faint man. Seriously. I studied Dylan , studied his influences from when he was unknown , stuff he first got into when he went to New York, latter years stuff.... I'm not an obsessive fan at all I couldn't tell you half his albums, what's more interesting to me is DYLAN the GUY more than his music, cause I see him as a Keuroac, as a Ginsberg. As something way beyond music. Idk...idk what I'm trying to say and neither does anyone when it comes to Dylan. I just ... man it would be so great though.
I had a professor who was a famous poet. He swore that to his ear, Dylan was the reincarnation of famous Irish poets. That opened my eyes (and ears) to Dylan. I never heard him the same way again.
He's just a man......
@@RPMac yep, but you may have missed the point.
I wouldn’t know what to say, and I’d be trying not to stare at him
Dylan was very intelligent, and quite a talented poet, but the difference between Kerouac and Dylan, is Kerouac was true, he was sincere, he didn’t try to create a persona, jack was jack, Dylan on the other hand fabricated a lot of his background in interviews to create a mystique and intrigue about him especially in the early days, when he first arrived in New York.
A couple of years ago, I had an opportunity to lay a bouquet of roses on Kerouac's grave. In the graveyard, they now have a big memorial marker that seems like it marks a grave; I think they're trying to keep people from walking on the graves and I don't blame them. All kinds of tributes are left around that marker; bottles of wine and books and cigarettes, pencils and blank paper, letters to him bound lightly etc.
I went and set down the flowers and thought about him beside the ground marker grave, for a while. My sister patiently waited and after a while I got up and we left.
Allen Ginsberg and his speech towards the end was the highlight for me in this film
Geoff Strum Agreed!
Fabulous! Ginsberg did a great job of keeping Kerouac alive. It's great to see him with Dylan. Perfect with the music.
OMG I'm dying. What an amazing clip. Just love the way he sang Hard Rain on that tour with so much energy!
Pranced the stage like a mad soldier....E
This my hometown I’ve been to his grave many time and every time it equally as cool as the last
I'm Anne charters blog she implies there's no grave. Well that's a lie!
This is a very ( precious) sharing
It’s amusing to watch Allen insistingly infiltrating Dylan’s brain and Dylan keeping his distance.
He's slightly guiding & instructing him 'bout guidepost for BD' down journey ( mentoring)..cannot read Bob's inner response (still waters run deep) Feel A.H. had only good intentions toward guiding & broadening BD's awareness of t Poet Masters
Very much great scene with very great version of, Hard Rain ... thank you so much for sharing ...
Thank you. God Bless you for this reverant footage
Unmarked grave for Bob 🙏🏻
Just yesterday I was listening a 2 DVD BD Rolling Thunder Revue with an Unreleased concert footage from Renaldo & Clara recorded in Montreal 4thdec.' 75 ; Cambridge , MA 20thnov.'75 ; Boston 21st nov Late Show and Clinton ,NJ 7th dec.'75 ( 1st versión Knockin' on Heaven's Door) .. Here comes too Hard Rain US TV (Colorado 23may'76) and Hard Rain Japanese TV ; and a rejected TV special recorded at the Starlight Ballroom in the Belleview Biltmore Hotel , Clearwater, Florida (22 nd april '76) .... Just an snack before the great official reléase on 12 Juni ....
This really is an amazing personal insight of Bob Dylan's interest in poetry. Thank You for sharing this lovely story bound by very beautiful audio 💖💖
Or rather is it an insight into Ginsburg's knowledge and interest in poetry and how Dylan just stood there and perhaps listened or perhaps didn't. I personally think Ginsburg used Dylan to make himself more famous with the younger generation that was following Dylan. It seems history has given Ginsburg a pass on this.
@@Anthony-hu3rj That sounds rather cold and calculating, never heard that one before.
I live in Los Angeles now, but this is filmed about 5 minutes from where I grew up in MA. Incredibly cool to see.
“I want to be in an unmarked grave”
He probably won’t be, I’ll bet he’ll be cremated and his ashes scattered to the wind, seems fitting
Perfect Dylan thing to say.
Dylan says, "No, I won't be in an unmarked grave." I don' know if that' s because he wants to be cremated, or just a statement that we, the masses, won't allow him privacy/solitude even in death. We'll make a shrine out it..........
Whatever Bob.
Oh, this is so beautiful! So so beautiful. I too have always made to visit graves and récite lines à propos.
Thank you, comrade.
Two intellectuals; The Joker & The Thief....
More like the fool and the thief.
beautiful video, thank you
One night after a lecture, Allen Ginsberg went with my uncle and friends to my uncles cabin and talked and drank all night. They called their brother ( my dad) who’d been working on his dissertation on Ginsburg. They handed the phone to my dad and Ginsburg said “Hello John” and they talked for a long time. The end.
Nice when Dylan says (maybe joking....) he wants to end up in an unmarked grave.
Well, if it's good enough for Frank Zappa.
Very nice tour of the Grotto. Mother Mary and all. I think they also walk past #9 where Jack lived. I went to the city of St Jean (Lowell) once a long time ago. I wish I had the eyes I have now, then. I was young and didn't fully understand what Dylan, The Beatles, Steely Dan and a million other bands were actually writing songs about. We all hear songs from many different artists about Kerouac and the other Beats. Dylan's entire career has played out most of the adventures or misadventures chronicled in the books written by Kerouac and the other Beats. It's apparent that he absorbed them and translated them for us to reflect on our own lives and times.
This was so good, well made, thanks so much for this.
Thanks so much :) So glad you enjoyed it.
They didn't make it! 😅 It's been available for decades.
Thanks, i like these snippets.
Why was it recorded, if not to
be seen...
The protestant cemetery in Rome where Keats is buried. Beautiful place.
“I’m a member of NAMBLA,”...because I love boys too-everybody does, who has a little humanity.”
-Alan Ginsberg
Sex by 8 or it’s too late is their motto. Disgusting sick F*cks
Could there have been a more perfect human being than Jack Kerouac? No. Period.
Yeshua, the great.
Yeshuah...Yahshuah...YahOshuah ha MOSHE-yahch❗❤️💔💛🔥
Very great video and thank you for sharing @chuckcheeba
What yr was this .,,I go to jacks grave all the times ..it looked so different in this video
This would've been 1975. What does it look like now?
Swingin’ Pig I mean it’s the same but there’s a big jack stone there now ...really nice .. they went almost at sundown I usually go in the afternoon noon
Please,can you tell me the version of that"hard rains gonna fall" that playing on background.. I can't find
I'll be pleased if you answer..tnx
Erfan Glb I can take a look for you! But it was 1974.
@@SwinginPig i finally found it,after plenty of searchings..thank you
By the way,that is a awesome video..its a gem.. Thank you for posting it👍
@@erfanglb7735 Is it possible to share this beautiful version with us?
@@erfanglb7735 Merci beaucoup!
They have a large gravestone for Kerouac now, behind the small one still in the ground. Otherwise everything else is the same.
shared to FB
So Naturlig ♡
Creepy Ginsberg always had a thing for kids
Interesting how Dylan reads it in the language of the inscription and Ginsburg interprets.Latin?
French. Lowell is full of French Canadians, French was kerouac's first language also
Stella Kerouac died in 1990 and is also buried in the Lowell cemetery. I wonder why they didn't put her death date on the headstone, unless she is not buried with Jack Kerouac.
TheBluewaterBlonde she weren’t dead yet
This footage is from 1975.
@@dondamon4669 When you have husband and wife plots, when the spouse that dies after the first one dies, then the date is added when he or she is buried next to their spouse. My mother died 20 years after my father. She had a plot waiting for her next to my dad and her date of death was added when she died. If she had re-married and was not buried next to my dad then there never would have been a death date added for her.
Christ Jesus is the Lord King of kings and has risen
Bottomline Truth. Everything else pales before it.🕊️🔥🕊️
Who gives a shit?
Ginsburg clearly enjoyed those kids, Dylan - not so much.
You have to see Hibbing to believe it. Go in June.
What book are they reading?
Im not certain, but I thing its Mexico City Blues
Mexico City blues by Kerouac
This is such a beautiful fucking Video, i'm a Keuroac fan, here's Bob Dylan a dude than influenced movements, fucking MOVEMENTS, fucking rights movements , man did speeches and concerts next to Dr. Martin Luther King with Ginssberg, at Keuroacs grave. There is nothing I admire more in another man that true Intellectualship, not pretending to be like say Jordan Peterson and his shills, but a R E A L Intellectual.
what netflix documentary are you talking about in the description?
Freddie Olson6 it’s called Rolling Thunder Revue. By Martin Scorsese. Watch it!
Swingin’ Pig thank you!!
Jack Kerouac Didn't honor his daughter. He ignored her all his life.I believe he met her once when a paternity test was performed on her as a child.
Great writer....shitty person!!!
@@paulglover7048 Like Dylan and Hemingway
Read alot of his books never made to desolation peak eventhough i lived in Washington
An unmarked grave, unlike his pompous hat.
Ginzy was deep-incredibly, Dylan is deeper. Some people reduce him to prophet status-he is just . a genius .We are lucky
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Beautiful video
Flowers my dudes? no huaraches?
🔥❤🕊🤗💞🌹💀🎩☝🏽July 2022
What a perfect hat to wear to a gravesite, Zimmy.
😅🤣
Oh! Lord let us to die in our footsteps & keep our grave clean & pure for all the rest of the days until a Hard Rain's a' gonna fall & the whole world Will sink into the Ocean!
Dylan entered my soul early like Moloch did for Allen in heat ❤ (alan to me)
You might want to keep those young male kids away from Mr. Ginsberg at 1:10
Yikes, I was thinking the same thing
''There's artists who can wrest us up, & place us into their art.
These; Now These are the 'One's Who' continue to wrest us up...
Even beyond their rests in peace.'' -William Gilpin 10919
Stay thirsty for these ''One's Who'' my friends.
For they are the Assuagers of our Spiritual Thirsts.
Ginsberg a poet 😂
Ginsberg in a playground full of young boys I bet the nonce was hard as a rock
1:18
Here are some people from Lowell , Massachusetts PRIDE...…..en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lowell,_Massachusettsen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Kerouac ,en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bette_Davis, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympia_Dukakis, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Abbott_McNeill_Whistler,en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Kelly,en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micky_Ward, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Tsongas,en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Grimes,en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_Bradley,here johnning en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_McMahon,en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Sullivan_(American_football),en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Butler…..en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Wang,en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moxie,en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CVS_Pharmacy
ginsberg around all those kids 👀
That was one wacked out MFer
I dont get it....what's the significance about Ginsberg and kids ? I see constant references, but I missed something about him, apparently
@@Me_ThatsWho He was a member of NAMBLA.
@@noelc.8830 another idol falls...
@@Me_ThatsWho You've obviously never read his work.
Rodger waters father was killed on anzio beach in 1944.thats a brilliant coinsidenc if you think about it
This man around children ... pure horror..and you all are cheering him.. interesting...
Ginsberg= nambla.