Not like he's been a bad player. Last season had wayy too small of a sample size to judge. And the 2 seasons prior was ppg. I mean to me just sounds like a elite forward who was injured 1 year
Kent Hughes doing one hell of a job once again.. I thought Montreal had to give away the pick, which I thought was fine, we get that second pick?! Damn!! insane win for Montreal imo!
CBJ fans : 0 salary retention on Laine and Harris is very serviceable, young and cheap. MTL fans : we get a top3-6 sniper and a 2nd round pick for a young defenseman ... when we needed to get rid of one anyway to clear the logjam. This marks the beginning of the end of the rebuild, will the Canadiens make the playoff this season ? Probably not, but if everyone is healthy and with a few other moves ... it’s not an impossibility now.
Laine is a locker room cancer! He has not had a decent season in a while! He is coming off an injury and is a huge gamble at 8.7 million hence the second round pick!
Harris is a 7th D / AHL'er for an elite goal scorer in his prime and CBJ even tacked on a 2nd lol CBJ are a joke they just turned PLD into Jordan Harris in the space of a year, biggest joke franchise in the league
As a Jackets fan, I'm Honestly happy with this. It cleared up a ton of cap space and did right by Laine. Hope he comes out and pots 40 for the Habs. The league is better when he's performing well.
As a habs fan i could easily see Harris becoming a great top 4, 2way dman. he just thinks the game so well, and he's got the skating and puck skills to do alot more offensively. He should be a great mainstay for the jackets!
@@coffeeblack226 also a hab fan , Habs got a big scoring winger which they need, colombus gets a decent young dman and added cap space. Should be a win for both teams
Win win trade for sure. CBJ cleared a 9 million dollar player who didn't fit the team market or plan and the cost was a 2026 2nd. Not to mention they get a decent LD. Montreal probably got more value. But Columbus definitely are still winners.
@@4u2nvHock3y Y'know I've been trying to decide who "won" this trade the last couple of days. I'll be honest, I think it's a dead win/win. Laine just didn't make sense in our lineup, and it gives us some more space for our younger guys to play serious minutes. The cherry on top will go to the Habs if Patty finds his old form.
Man what a trade for the Habs. Absolute genius move from Kent Hughes. Getting a 2nd round pick and a player who has 117 points in his last 129 games for a bottom pairing defenseman is unheard of.
I think you're being unfair to Harris. I think he's going to be an amazing defenseman, but I guess we'll wait and see. Other than that I agree. Amazing to see Laine in Montreal
Yeah but if you look at the whole picture it’s a guy who couldn’t play in multiple cities, coming off of injury and player assistance on top making a huge financial hit for years to come.
As a CBJ fan I’m happy with this trade. I like the work being done to get the team to “pull in the same direction”. The cap space gives us a lot of flexibility (13 mil now?) and allows us to deal with Elvis if necessary. Losing the 2nd is acceptable considering our prospect pool. I assume CBJ is hoping to replace Laine’s shot with Chinakov’s.
We literally have nothing to lose in this trade. We aren't cap strapped and we aren't in a rush to sign players until a few years from now when we can actually compete for a cup. If Laine doesn't pan out, he's out in 2 years anyway. We clear up some space for our young defensemen (sorry Harris) AND we get a second? Straight up W.
If he’s half decent the Habs can retain salary at next seasons trade deadline and make a killing in prospects/ draft picks! It look s like a good deal.
Not only that, but consider Dach's morale now for his return. He simply got a guy for his line that scored 40 goals in a season not so long ago. This duo could be scary AF. If not, well it'll only last 2 seasons. Nothing to fear here, that's the best out of it.
Also Laine is an elite player with that X factor. Capable of scoring critical goals at a critical time by providing top minutes in the offensive zone. He will play against the opponent first D pairing thus opening some room for Caufield by the nature of the pairing.
@@lukepanel8656Maybe if Kent wants to tank for McKenna in 2026, but if Laine pans out I think he'd be happy signing a reasonably team friendly extension deal. Plus by that point the Habs should be in their lock for playoffs/fringe contention phase, so draft picks aren't really a priority at that point
Adding Patrick Laine to the Canadiens makes strategic sense, especially with Carey Price's contract on LTIR. Price's $10.5 million cap hit allows the Canadiens to exceed the salary cap, giving them the flexibility to add a player like Laine with his $8.7 million cap hit. Laine’s presence not only fills the cap space effectively but also significantly boosts the team’s performance. As a top goal-scorer, Laine can draw defensive attention, creating more opportunities for the young core, like Nick Suzuki and Cole Caufield, to shine. This increased performance leads to greater confidence, which is crucial for their development. In essence, utilizing Price's LTIR cap relief to bring in Laine not only strengthens the Canadiens' roster but also helps accelerate the growth and confidence of their young stars, ensuring the team remains competitive and continues to build for the future.
@@doritosgaming1147 it was for coke as well. my best friend teaches at a power skating school and one of his clients is Carey and knows about his addictions. google Carey and his coke problems
The Habs had too many good young D-men. Getting rid of Harris will not be felt by the Habs at all. Yeah, taking on the full $8.7M is tough, but it's only for two years. Lets see if St Louis can light a fire under Liane's bottom and if he pots even 25 or more, this is a big win for the Habs.
@@fergusonogden6021 - Considering their 2nd is (surely) going to be the same value as a very-low 1st, I'm not sure that was a smart give-up from CLB who is desperate to get back into some form of relevancy. Look at is this way. They traded the #3 & #~32-35 overall for Jordan Harris. There's no way to look at that and not say 'ouch'.
@@FHL-Devils that 3 was PLDiva and he was a net negative, with his toxic attitude and lazy play. cbj won't be dead last but it could well be a top 40 pick. remember it's a 2026 pick, so it's not next year's standings that are relevant.
@@FHL-Devils Harris is on his way to become a 40-50 point defenseman if CBJ plays their cards right, he wasn't paired with Matheson or Barron here, most of the time he was on the third pair with Wideman in 21-22 and sometimes with Savard or Guhle or when Guhle was injured, Gustav Lindstrom, very defensive defensemen when it came time to play with Lindstrom, Wideman was a warrior who showed up every game with a huge heart but he couldn't be the offensive D he wanted to be due to just plain lack of talent, even though he has flashes before we acquired him, I think it was in CBJ or if not Ottawa. You can count on Harris to be solid defensively, more so than some of the dmen we have right now who are very young. Harris is a quick on his skates guy too, not the best at stickhandling, but he is very fast at returning to his own zone skating backwards and stopping plays and he's one of the more proven young dmen we had, its just that he was expandable as even better, star power guys were behind him experience wise and they were gonna get the ice time, Hutson, Guhle will duo #2 and one of these 3 guys will have to fight not to be the 7th dman between Barron, Mailloux and Xhekaj. I kind of expect Mailloux to surprise some and it will be a tough choice between Barron who was just signed, just like Xhekaj to NHL contracts, no AHL for neither, so it could be that they will split the role on the third pair for a while until the guy doing best taking the spot for the majority of the games left in the season as they consolidate their place as the 6th dman, which in that crew is not a position to scoff at, we're PACKED. We can comfortably keep Reinbacher in Laval for him to get used to North American rink size and a few of the other lesser known prospects on defense will have their turn when Savard or Matheson leaves, although I have a feeling it won't be this season and next season, the one guy between those 2 who becomes an RFA at the end of that season, depending on how Habs do in 24-25, will be traded for a forward or a pick and one will remain. Love Savard and his willingness to block shots and be a second goalie without getting hurt too much, but if he starts getting ouchies from age and all the pucks he blocks, Matheson the guy from Pointe-Claire (a town on the island of Montreal, not Montreal proper but real close to, probably loves playing where he's from and could be the guy we hold on to, both possibilities are in the air and it's way too early to say more. oof, finally something happening this summer has my brains thinking a whole lot now 😆
Ok, I'm really happy with that trade! Harris felt like the guy that was gonna be traded at some point anyway. Getting Laine and a 2nd for a former 3rd! What an asset management!
this is awesome for the Habs and the exact team make up Laine needs to find success I think, here's hoping because he's a super exciting player when he's on
Just like that Laine becomes the highest paid Hab by almost a million dollars. His numbers last year had him on pace for a 27 goal, 41 point season. Honestly if he puts up 30 goals and 50 points while healthy over a full season I will be satisfied
Hughes said in the media op that he's not the one who signed him to that contract... meaning that, once those 2 years are up (or sometime before), he'll likely get signed to around what Suzuki got ... assuming he actually plays well. And if he hits 50 goals, has good chemistry with the rest of the team, I don't think the others would mind a higher salary at that point. For now, he's a project and the salary is only inherited.
I don't think Laine is part of the long time plan. I think he's there for the team to be more competitive before Demidov makes his way to America. I would not be surprised if he's traded for better assets down the line. Still, honestly, a great move by Kent Hughes. Exciting time to be a Habs fan.
I love this trade, it gives the Habs a good winger they can put on the second line and should alleviate some of the scoring depth issues they've had. More size doesnt hurt either (at least from a Habs perspective, other teams beware). And that second round pick could maybe be leverage for Askarov. Hughes, keep cooking
You have to like what the management have done. They have a great defence foundation, solid work-a-day in goal (until Fowler), they have speed, grit, and have added game-breaking talent and should be something when demidov joins them. This move brings them closer to the playoffs, and i don’t think they are done as they still have too many dmen, with even more in the pipeline. As the division is in flux the next season will be interesting to say the least
The best coach and place to bring Laine back to his 40 goal pace is MSL. MSL teaches through mistakes and not punishing the players. This will be big for Laine to gain his confidence back,
From a Montreal perspective, Laine actually gives them MORE cap relief when Price goes on LTIR. So unless Laine is a complete flop and a disruption, this is a huge win for the Habs
Montreal has finally acquired a “pure goal scoring” player. It’s debatable that he may be the most offensive player on that roster now. I expect him to hit 30-40 goals easily.
I wouldn't discount the possibility that Montreal has no intention of Laine suiting up next season. Hughes still has time to bundle him in a trade for something else. That said, if the intention is to ice him in October AND he stays healthy and well for the 24-25 season, Montreal just acquired an offense boost and, in exchange, they helped clear the log jam among the developing D-men and acquired another high draft pick.
@@JBTriple8 What I was saying was is that Mtl could still trade Laine elsewhere between now and the start of the season. I doubt they will but it's a possibility. Mtl had a problem of too much depth in a developing D and Harris was a guy who had to go to make room for guys like Hutson. In a way, Mtl gave up very little here and got a 2nd round pick in 2026. I really hope Laine plays for Mtl and returns to form.
I'm sad to see Harris go, I liked him but the blueline was way too crowded. I really hope Laine bounces back especially now that he's a part of the Canadians
Finally. Finally I know why Hughes wasn't signing any wingers who were free agents that are left who can score at least 20 goals with Dach or Newhook as their centre, both great playmakers, Dach might be on a superior level to Newhook when it comes to playmaking, all Habs fans have seen his magic in the 22-23 season when he play on the first line or even when he was on the second line as a Centre, his most natural position, but like a lot of young slow to develop (damn that injury last year and damn you Jarred Tinordi, I liked your dad better, you were just playing in the NHL because Chicago was that bad and they ended up sending you down to the AHL anyways for most of the season, I think the Habs of old drafted him on first round? (too much on a rush to verify right now, but he was picked high, a 1st draft pick from another era for sure if he was). Even in the pre-season we saw Dach continue where he left off after coming back from his injury in 22-23 and I feel like he's going to fully unlock this season, he was supposed and going to last season, but s*** happens. Well, now we have 2 potential 40 goal scorers and I don't know how many goals a year Dach will do at his best, I saw some people who are in the know say they can expect 35 goals from Dach easily once fully developed, and that time has arrived, but I think if at his peak he gets in between 35-40 goals, he will have a lot of assists, around 60-65 assists a season, so he might be a 100 pointer, something I expect Suzuki to be this year. It's crazy how rewarding this feels...as I was wanting the Habs to pick one of 3 players who could still score 20 goals in free agency like bringing back Pacioretty, signing Tyler Johnson who scored 17 in 67 games last season in a terrible team and Van Riemsdyk who likely had his weakest season goals-wise but still had around 40 pts, which is better than guys we lost that were supposed to be a 20 goal scorer like Tanner Pearson. Maybe Gally could if he continues on this trend of playing more than 35 games a season, but I think him and Anderson were pretty much dead wood by now, same for Dvorak who unfortunately seem like injuries have ruined the ex 120+ points OHL'er, he always stayed the same guy he was once he joined the NHL with the yotes, 40 pts, solid defensively....but I prefer to get rid of him too, Evans can take the 4th line centre spot easily, he's a master faceoff winner and is excellent on the PK and has a lot of drive, while Dvorak's game is as uninspired as his smile is common (only time I saw the guy smile was when he had his hat trick back in 22-23), and he was still chewing on his mouth guard as he did. My worries about the idleness during this summer are over, it looked as if players started to become scared of coming to play for Montreal again, somthing Hughes and St-Louis and Vinny Lecavalier upstairs at hockey operations seem to want to change, I think they slowly are removing the fear of coming to Montreal, a syndrome that has attacked most star players (not all, Kovalev and Koivu for example could ignore the media here, but Kovalev was around during a pretty good period for the team, when the team finished first in the East back in 2007-08. The event that started it all IMO was the treatment Stephane Richer received when he came back after his time with Jersey, where he won too, the guy was a winner yet...but I'll always remember Mark Recchi's last practice with the Habs, where he was sitting down on the ice, relaxing, just as the kodak flashes started to take pics in droves, as he was having his worst season ever, of course, they traded everyone of talent around him for peanuts, Damphousse, gone, Pierre Turgeon gone, Kirk Muller, gone. First line was something like Rucinsky - injured Koivu - Recchi and the defense beyond Malakhov and Brisebois was miserable. Those were the darkest Habs days and they were a "better" team than last season, they made playoffs but were always swept out first round, I'm surprised Recchi stayed as long as he did, but as he started talking back to the photo journalists, who were taking those pics for would-be scathing articles about how he's sitting around during practice while the team sucked and he was having a bad season compared to the usual. No such articles were written as when he started making fun of the journalists and yelling F-bombs at them among other better insults, he was traded the next day, likely for not much too, I don't remember what Habs got in return but he was a BEAST when he returned to Philly.
Hi. I really like that you stick to the facts, weigh both sides of the trades, and do not enter in long monologues about every single detail about he players involved. Refreshing. Thank you.
Laine has basically been point per game in an absolute trashcan team. It's mainly the injuries that has held his development back. He has been putting in a lot of work this summer, it's not unrealistic to expect 40+ goals.
Not sure I like the idea of a so-called "problem" going to Montreal. The rebuild is working because everyone has bought in. Could Maty make a difference in Laine's attitude and performance? If yes, he solidifies his reputation as a terrific coach that builds a TEAM. The good news is that the contract is only for 2 years, which means they could reform Laine and ship him off at the deadline this year, or next. I watched the Kent Hughes news conference and it was good to hear the process that Montreal went through to put Laine to the test. It's now up to him.
same concern here. Though, I think of Laine of less of a problem than PLD. At least Laine took steps to get himself better through the PA program. I think that as long as he loses the ego and accepts being part of the team, he'll do fine (though knowing our luck, he'll probably play very well, but get injured about 10-20 games).
If it was about saving cap space, it might be good. But it's first and foremost about saving cash for Columbus. They probably won't even use the 4 million of cap space on anything particular anyway, as both Fantilli and Jiricek are due a raise right after the contract would end.
Thanks to MTL for not subjecting us to any more opinion articles about Laine’s next destination. A fresh start, Laine says. Ever notice players don’t go to Columbus for those, they often leave there for them?
Hope the fresh start is good for Laine, but then I said that about Drouin when he started playing in the high-stress Montreal market. But yeah, only 26, could still rebound into a great top 3 or 6 forward, and if not it's only until 2026, which is around the time the Habs are supposed to be truly competitive again. They had the cap space and could spare the assets they gave-up, so this is low-risk, high potential for the Habs.
I really like this trade by the Habs. Laine can definitely bounce back in Montreal. He isn't used to a big market like Montreal, and for some it may be a problem, but for him I think it'll be alright. The expectations have been lowered in his case, there's a solid core in Montreal already and honestly I don't think the fans find Harris' moving out to be much of a bother because there are so many good prospects just waiting to take his spot, so they'll cut Laine some slack. IMO Harris kinda peaked already, or wasn't evolving anymore with Montreal, so it'll probably be good for him too, and maybe he will get better. I think Laine will find it motivating to play with a driven team, and it is going to be a driven team starting this season. Also, reminder: he is only 26!
Columbus is still not out of the woods entirely cap wise, since they still got Johnny Hockey on the books for an eternity. Hope Monahan rekindles some of his magic. Montreal gets out of a defensive logjam, acquires more draftcapita and only has to suffer that 8.7 caphit for 2 seasons if Laine doesn't pan out at all. Dude is a moody glass cannon but when he's healthy and on his game, he's still a legitimate top 6 forward and could pot anywhere between 20-50 goals and 1.0+ ppg on a full season. That won't happen though but even 20+ goals and around 0.7 ppg with most of the season played would be good for the Habs. They need skill and someone who can shoot the puck, not too many PP guys either who shoot right so in theory all they need.
There's value to the CBJ having freed up $8.5mil worth of cap space for two years, you can use that to accumulate draft picks throughout next season and especially at the trade deadline...
The Jets and Jackets were two teams that won the 2016 lottery. So in the end the Jets wind up with Laffalo, Vilardi,kupari and a 2nd round pick for the 2nd overall pick. Jackets wind up with Harris for the 3rd overall pick. And yet Laine and PLD somehow had their best seasons in Winnipeg.
The best thing about this trade is the timing, Laine's contract expires at a good timing for our rebuild. Let's imagine Laine goes back to a 40g scorer, it's just gravy for Habs fans and Kent Hugues gets to pull another master class trading 40g Laine at the deadline on his last year of contract to a desperate team for a huge haul. And if Laine stays the way he was the last few years we didn't lose anything.
Finally a nice jersey! No retention of salary, but they also gave up a 2nd round pick..Habs care more about draft picks than salary retention..you couldnt fetch a a 2nd round pick for Harris straight up...just on the 2nd rounder alone, the Habs won the deal...it is a great strateguc gamble by the Habs for a 26 year old with elite ability looking for a new start.
I think Habs might have made a mistake here. Laine hasn't been able to score like he did in his first 3 seasons. On top of that most of his goals are ones that carry little value because he scores when the outcome of the game is already decided. Something like a 4-1 goal late in the third for example. I don't know... 8,7M is a lot of money on the cap hit. I hope that he will bounce back and prove me wrong
You have to think Montreal if laine works out are likely a fringe playoff team at best. Id assume when Demidov makes the team they will officially contend
Avs set the precedent sending a 1st w RyJo to rent Walker. A high price for Waddell, as CLB has plenty of cap space. I feel like this is a W for Hughes
Laine now has 18 months to prove himself. By January/February 2026, if he sucks or always gets injured, the Habs will dump him to a contending team for the rest of that season, then he can try to find a team as a UFA. I like that he thinks he can help us get our 25th cup soon.
The only thing Im scared for Laine is his mental capacity to take on the pressure in Montreal. I just hope the fanbase is able to give him the time and not shit on him at every mistake
@@RochelGermain Totally agree, but being the new star player on the block do put expectations in the mind of fans and I don't want them to go crazy on him for any small mistakes. Habs fans do be known for that in the past
I feel you but this time, the lost is low. Harris had no future in the habs d-core with all the young defensemen coming up. At worst, we lost a D that we would've get rid of eventually anyways and still got a 2nd round pick for it. At best, we lost next to nothing for a star player and a 2nd round pick.
Hughes is cooking... Now he needs to do a Blockbuster with CGY To MTL Huberdeau & Kadri to play on a 2nd line with Laine... fire!!! To CGY Anderson, Gallagher & Price
If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, Laine would be Halloween. When he shows up, he's excellent, top 3 on any team he could play for. But that's what, 40% of the time? Maybe 35%? This is the third team where I'll say "I hope it goes well and he finds his place" but after how the last two went down? I'm not surprised it took a draft pick not to retain. He's not just a risky bet, knowing how finicky he gets with minutes and exposure, he can genuinely be a liability. Keep him away from leadership roles, even if he does well. Second line unless he's having a career year (or the first line turns to dogshit). And (not kidding) keep him away from media. Columbus doesn't get a lot back, save cap space, but given his last year with the Blue Jackets.. I'd rather have cap space than dead weight.
This is an interesting deal where it seems both teams really make out but I still think Montreal got the better of the two. We will see how Laine actually performs though.
It’s a weird trade when you can say “yeah we got Patrick Laine!” And “yeah we dumped 8.7 M in cap!”.. and they both sound equally exciting. Time . Will. Tell
Good thing Laine, known for his lackadaisical stretches and propensity to lessen effort, is in a very forgiving media market and a super level headed fan base :)
Montreal "in theory" gets the best player in the trade, of course barring any injury that Laine often incurs, as well as any potential defensive liability and locker room issues he might bring. Laine has already talked himself off a couple of teams already...
Harris is a good defenceman and will do well in Columbus. He needs more ice time than what he got in Montreal to really show how good a player he can be. I think Shannon wore the wrong sweater - Harris was a better player last year than Laine. Not saying that Laine potentially is not better than Harris just that he wasn't for a couple of years. The potential is that Laine plays for a few games for the Habs. This is a more risky move for Montreal than fans seem to think.
I just want to see Laine rip pucks again. I hope he bounces back with the Habs.
Not like he's been a bad player. Last season had wayy too small of a sample size to judge. And the 2 seasons prior was ppg. I mean to me just sounds like a elite forward who was injured 1 year
Kent Hughes doing one hell of a job once again.. I thought Montreal had to give away the pick, which I thought was fine, we get that second pick?! Damn!! insane win for Montreal imo!
Pierce Luc Dubois in shambles
Wtf?
@@MathRestantPLD wanted to come to Montreal duh
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@@mtgbrewery7239That doesn't explain your comment. Duh.
PLD used the Canadiens as leverage to get a bigger contract. Screw him
As a Liane fan, I really hope he does well in Montreal.
CBJ fans : 0 salary retention on Laine and Harris is very serviceable, young and cheap.
MTL fans : we get a top3-6 sniper and a 2nd round pick for a young defenseman ... when we needed to get rid of one anyway to clear the logjam.
This marks the beginning of the end of the rebuild, will the Canadiens make the playoff this season ? Probably not, but if everyone is healthy and with a few other moves ... it’s not an impossibility now.
Laine is a locker room cancer! He has not had a decent season in a while! He is coming off an injury and is a huge gamble at 8.7 million hence the second round pick!
No, not until they get a goaltender, at least
Harris is a 7th D / AHL'er for an elite goal scorer in his prime and CBJ even tacked on a 2nd lol
CBJ are a joke they just turned PLD into Jordan Harris in the space of a year, biggest joke franchise in the league
@@troysims2753 if it don't work Laine contracts expired in 2 years.
No problems !
@@troysims2753didn't know you knew him so well
As a Jackets fan, I'm Honestly happy with this. It cleared up a ton of cap space and did right by Laine. Hope he comes out and pots 40 for the Habs. The league is better when he's performing well.
As a habs fan i could easily see Harris becoming a great top 4, 2way dman. he just thinks the game so well, and he's got the skating and puck skills to do alot more offensively. He should be a great mainstay for the jackets!
@@coffeeblack226 also a hab fan , Habs got a big scoring winger which they need, colombus gets a decent young dman and added cap space. Should be a win for both teams
The habs also needed to get bigger on top of of a bit more offense. They nailed it!
Win win trade for sure. CBJ cleared a 9 million dollar player who didn't fit the team market or plan and the cost was a 2026 2nd. Not to mention they get a decent LD. Montreal probably got more value. But Columbus definitely are still winners.
@@4u2nvHock3y Y'know I've been trying to decide who "won" this trade the last couple of days. I'll be honest, I think it's a dead win/win. Laine just didn't make sense in our lineup, and it gives us some more space for our younger guys to play serious minutes. The cherry on top will go to the Habs if Patty finds his old form.
Montreal could use the draft pick from Columbus as a sweetener to move Anderson or dvorak
Man what a trade for the Habs. Absolute genius move from Kent Hughes. Getting a 2nd round pick and a player who has 117 points in his last 129 games for a bottom pairing defenseman is unheard of.
I think you're being unfair to Harris. I think he's going to be an amazing defenseman, but I guess we'll wait and see. Other than that I agree. Amazing to see Laine in Montreal
Don’t forget Laine needs to stay healthy. Man is a walking bandaid but overall still a good move
Until Patty Laine starts his bullshit in Montreal
Also big contract
Yeah but if you look at the whole picture it’s a guy who couldn’t play in multiple cities, coming off of injury and player assistance on top making a huge financial hit for years to come.
As a CBJ fan I’m happy with this trade. I like the work being done to get the team to “pull in the same direction”. The cap space gives us a lot of flexibility (13 mil now?) and allows us to deal with Elvis if necessary. Losing the 2nd is acceptable considering our prospect pool. I assume CBJ is hoping to replace Laine’s shot with Chinakov’s.
The 2nd is the payment for cap retention not being included
40-goal season Laine incoming
Agreed
Lmfao sureeeee😂
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Columbus should go for Askarov. They got a lot of cap space and could actually be a lot better this season with the right moves.
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We literally have nothing to lose in this trade. We aren't cap strapped and we aren't in a rush to sign players until a few years from now when we can actually compete for a cup. If Laine doesn't pan out, he's out in 2 years anyway. We clear up some space for our young defensemen (sorry Harris) AND we get a second? Straight up W.
Good news for Montreal, who keep getting getting good news. They're going to be interesting to watch this year. And next. 👍
If he’s half decent the Habs can retain salary at next seasons trade deadline and make a killing in prospects/ draft picks! It look s like a good deal.
Not only that, but consider Dach's morale now for his return. He simply got a guy for his line that scored 40 goals in a season not so long ago. This duo could be scary AF. If not, well it'll only last 2 seasons. Nothing to fear here, that's the best out of it.
Also Laine is an elite player with that X factor. Capable of scoring critical goals at a critical time by providing top minutes in the offensive zone. He will play against the opponent first D pairing thus opening some room for Caufield by the nature of the pairing.
@@lukepanel8656Maybe if Kent wants to tank for McKenna in 2026, but if Laine pans out I think he'd be happy signing a reasonably team friendly extension deal. Plus by that point the Habs should be in their lock for playoffs/fringe contention phase, so draft picks aren't really a priority at that point
Adding Patrick Laine to the Canadiens makes strategic sense, especially with Carey Price's contract on LTIR. Price's $10.5 million cap hit allows the Canadiens to exceed the salary cap, giving them the flexibility to add a player like Laine with his $8.7 million cap hit.
Laine’s presence not only fills the cap space effectively but also significantly boosts the team’s performance. As a top goal-scorer, Laine can draw defensive attention, creating more opportunities for the young core, like Nick Suzuki and Cole Caufield, to shine. This increased performance leads to greater confidence, which is crucial for their development.
In essence, utilizing Price's LTIR cap relief to bring in Laine not only strengthens the Canadiens' roster but also helps accelerate the growth and confidence of their young stars, ensuring the team remains competitive and continues to build for the future.
Bro used ChatGPT
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Funny how Carey and laine were both in the player assist program...Carey for coke
@@rushdiehard8784 Carey was for alcohol tho
@@doritosgaming1147 it was for coke as well. my best friend teaches at a power skating school and one of his clients is Carey and knows about his addictions. google Carey and his coke problems
Im just glad they got something done, semed like a bit of an albatross around the CBJ neck.
I really hope Laine hits the ground running in Montreal and does well
The Habs had too many good young D-men. Getting rid of Harris will not be felt by the Habs at all. Yeah, taking on the full $8.7M is tough, but it's only for two years. Lets see if St Louis can light a fire under Liane's bottom and if he pots even 25 or more, this is a big win for the Habs.
Best part from my CBJ fan perspective is retaining 0 dollars…
The battle for ice time among D-men is gonna be interesting.
I think the 2nd round pick was ultimately the deciding factor between CBJ retaining some of his contract
@@fergusonogden6021 - Considering their 2nd is (surely) going to be the same value as a very-low 1st, I'm not sure that was a smart give-up from CLB who is desperate to get back into some form of relevancy.
Look at is this way. They traded the #3 & #~32-35 overall for Jordan Harris. There's no way to look at that and not say 'ouch'.
@@FHL-Devils dude wanted out of that team. They had no leverage so of course they weren’t going to get a whole lot of value in return for him.
@@FHL-Devils that 3 was PLDiva and he was a net negative, with his toxic attitude and lazy play. cbj won't be dead last but it could well be a top 40 pick. remember it's a 2026 pick, so it's not next year's standings that are relevant.
@@FHL-Devils Harris is on his way to become a 40-50 point defenseman if CBJ plays their cards right, he wasn't paired with Matheson or Barron here, most of the time he was on the third pair with Wideman in 21-22 and sometimes with Savard or Guhle or when Guhle was injured, Gustav Lindstrom, very defensive defensemen when it came time to play with Lindstrom, Wideman was a warrior who showed up every game with a huge heart but he couldn't be the offensive D he wanted to be due to just plain lack of talent, even though he has flashes before we acquired him, I think it was in CBJ or if not Ottawa. You can count on Harris to be solid defensively, more so than some of the dmen we have right now who are very young. Harris is a quick on his skates guy too, not the best at stickhandling, but he is very fast at returning to his own zone skating backwards and stopping plays and he's one of the more proven young dmen we had, its just that he was expandable as even better, star power guys were behind him experience wise and they were gonna get the ice time, Hutson, Guhle will duo #2 and one of these 3 guys will have to fight not to be the 7th dman between Barron, Mailloux and Xhekaj. I kind of expect Mailloux to surprise some and it will be a tough choice between Barron who was just signed, just like Xhekaj to NHL contracts, no AHL for neither, so it could be that they will split the role on the third pair for a while until the guy doing best taking the spot for the majority of the games left in the season as they consolidate their place as the 6th dman, which in that crew is not a position to scoff at, we're PACKED. We can comfortably keep Reinbacher in Laval for him to get used to North American rink size and a few of the other lesser known prospects on defense will have their turn when Savard or Matheson leaves, although I have a feeling it won't be this season and next season, the one guy between those 2 who becomes an RFA at the end of that season, depending on how Habs do in 24-25, will be traded for a forward or a pick and one will remain. Love Savard and his willingness to block shots and be a second goalie without getting hurt too much, but if he starts getting ouchies from age and all the pucks he blocks, Matheson the guy from Pointe-Claire (a town on the island of Montreal, not Montreal proper but real close to, probably loves playing where he's from and could be the guy we hold on to, both possibilities are in the air and it's way too early to say more.
oof, finally something happening this summer has my brains thinking a whole lot now 😆
Ok, I'm really happy with that trade! Harris felt like the guy that was gonna be traded at some point anyway. Getting Laine and a 2nd for a former 3rd! What an asset management!
this is awesome for the Habs and the exact team make up Laine needs to find success I think, here's hoping because he's a super exciting player when he's on
Just like that Laine becomes the highest paid Hab by almost a million dollars. His numbers last year had him on pace for a 27 goal, 41 point season. Honestly if he puts up 30 goals and 50 points while healthy over a full season I will be satisfied
@@Dire-wuulf that'll be tough playing only 20 games
@@timhenderson9794 With the right linemates he's got fifty goal potential.
Hughes said in the media op that he's not the one who signed him to that contract... meaning that, once those 2 years are up (or sometime before), he'll likely get signed to around what Suzuki got ... assuming he actually plays well. And if he hits 50 goals, has good chemistry with the rest of the team, I don't think the others would mind a higher salary at that point. For now, he's a project and the salary is only inherited.
glad waddell found a way to not have any retention on that
Montreal just keeps doing everything right!
Good deal for both sides, Montreal has nothing to lose and Columbus just needed to get rid of that contract
This off season has had the most player movement I can remember.
Cheers.
I don't think Laine is part of the long time plan. I think he's there for the team to be more competitive before Demidov makes his way to America. I would not be surprised if he's traded for better assets down the line. Still, honestly, a great move by Kent Hughes. Exciting time to be a Habs fan.
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I love this trade, it gives the Habs a good winger they can put on the second line and should alleviate some of the scoring depth issues they've had. More size doesnt hurt either (at least from a Habs perspective, other teams beware). And that second round pick could maybe be leverage for Askarov. Hughes, keep cooking
You have to like what the management have done. They have a great defence foundation, solid work-a-day in goal (until Fowler), they have speed, grit, and have added game-breaking talent and should be something when demidov joins them. This move brings them closer to the playoffs, and i don’t think they are done as they still have too many dmen, with even more in the pipeline. As the division is in flux the next season will be interesting to say the least
The best coach and place to bring Laine back to his 40 goal pace is MSL. MSL teaches through mistakes and not punishing the players. This will be big for Laine to gain his confidence back,
Harris is a Haverill, MA kid.....fairly local to us Maine/NH folks. So cheering for him to do well in CLB!
I think this is a win win for both teams, with the CBJ completely wiping their hands with Laine is a brilliant move by Waddell.
no canadiens won that trade
Good for you. Repeating exactly what THG said.
From a Montreal perspective, Laine actually gives them MORE cap relief when Price goes on LTIR. So unless Laine is a complete flop and a disruption, this is a huge win for the Habs
Another gift to the Habs, courtesy of Kent Hughes' negotiating skills.
Montreal has finally acquired a “pure goal scoring” player. It’s debatable that he may be the most offensive player on that roster now. I expect him to hit 30-40 goals easily.
I wouldn't discount the possibility that Montreal has no intention of Laine suiting up next season. Hughes still has time to bundle him in a trade for something else. That said, if the intention is to ice him in October AND he stays healthy and well for the 24-25 season, Montreal just acquired an offense boost and, in exchange, they helped clear the log jam among the developing D-men and acquired another high draft pick.
why trade for him if hes not suiting up doesn't make sense
@@JBTriple8 What I was saying was is that Mtl could still trade Laine elsewhere between now and the start of the season. I doubt they will but it's a possibility.
Mtl had a problem of too much depth in a developing D and Harris was a guy who had to go to make room for guys like Hutson. In a way, Mtl gave up very little here and got a 2nd round pick in 2026.
I really hope Laine plays for Mtl and returns to form.
I'm sad to see Harris go, I liked him but the blueline was way too crowded. I really hope Laine bounces back especially now that he's a part of the Canadians
Finally. Finally I know why Hughes wasn't signing any wingers who were free agents that are left who can score at least 20 goals with Dach or Newhook as their centre, both great playmakers, Dach might be on a superior level to Newhook when it comes to playmaking, all Habs fans have seen his magic in the 22-23 season when he play on the first line or even when he was on the second line as a Centre, his most natural position, but like a lot of young slow to develop (damn that injury last year and damn you Jarred Tinordi, I liked your dad better, you were just playing in the NHL because Chicago was that bad and they ended up sending you down to the AHL anyways for most of the season, I think the Habs of old drafted him on first round? (too much on a rush to verify right now, but he was picked high, a 1st draft pick from another era for sure if he was). Even in the pre-season we saw Dach continue where he left off after coming back from his injury in 22-23 and I feel like he's going to fully unlock this season, he was supposed and going to last season, but s*** happens.
Well, now we have 2 potential 40 goal scorers and I don't know how many goals a year Dach will do at his best, I saw some people who are in the know say they can expect 35 goals from Dach easily once fully developed, and that time has arrived, but I think if at his peak he gets in between 35-40 goals, he will have a lot of assists, around 60-65 assists a season, so he might be a 100 pointer, something I expect Suzuki to be this year. It's crazy how rewarding this feels...as I was wanting the Habs to pick one of 3 players who could still score 20 goals in free agency like bringing back Pacioretty, signing Tyler Johnson who scored 17 in 67 games last season in a terrible team and Van Riemsdyk who likely had his weakest season goals-wise but still had around 40 pts, which is better than guys we lost that were supposed to be a 20 goal scorer like Tanner Pearson. Maybe Gally could if he continues on this trend of playing more than 35 games a season, but I think him and Anderson were pretty much dead wood by now, same for Dvorak who unfortunately seem like injuries have ruined the ex 120+ points OHL'er, he always stayed the same guy he was once he joined the NHL with the yotes, 40 pts, solid defensively....but I prefer to get rid of him too, Evans can take the 4th line centre spot easily, he's a master faceoff winner and is excellent on the PK and has a lot of drive, while Dvorak's game is as uninspired as his smile is common (only time I saw the guy smile was when he had his hat trick back in 22-23), and he was still chewing on his mouth guard as he did.
My worries about the idleness during this summer are over, it looked as if players started to become scared of coming to play for Montreal again, somthing Hughes and St-Louis and Vinny Lecavalier upstairs at hockey operations seem to want to change, I think they slowly are removing the fear of coming to Montreal, a syndrome that has attacked most star players (not all, Kovalev and Koivu for example could ignore the media here, but Kovalev was around during a pretty good period for the team, when the team finished first in the East back in 2007-08. The event that started it all IMO was the treatment Stephane Richer received when he came back after his time with Jersey, where he won too, the guy was a winner yet...but I'll always remember Mark Recchi's last practice with the Habs, where he was sitting down on the ice, relaxing, just as the kodak flashes started to take pics in droves, as he was having his worst season ever, of course, they traded everyone of talent around him for peanuts, Damphousse, gone, Pierre Turgeon gone, Kirk Muller, gone. First line was something like Rucinsky - injured Koivu - Recchi and the defense beyond Malakhov and Brisebois was miserable. Those were the darkest Habs days and they were a "better" team than last season, they made playoffs but were always swept out first round, I'm surprised Recchi stayed as long as he did, but as he started talking back to the photo journalists, who were taking those pics for would-be scathing articles about how he's sitting around during practice while the team sucked and he was having a bad season compared to the usual. No such articles were written as when he started making fun of the journalists and yelling F-bombs at them among other better insults, he was traded the next day, likely for not much too, I don't remember what Habs got in return but he was a BEAST when he returned to Philly.
Hi. I really like that you stick to the facts, weigh both sides of the trades, and do not enter in long monologues about every single detail about he players involved. Refreshing. Thank you.
Laine has basically been point per game in an absolute trashcan team. It's mainly the injuries that has held his development back. He has been putting in a lot of work this summer, it's not unrealistic to expect 40+ goals.
No retention is a W for Columbus.
Love the trade for both teams. We get another top six forward and Harris gone. Malioux gets the Harris spot 😀
Can't wait to see the end of the trade tree for the Laine x Dubois trade
I thought the Jackets got screwed until you said they didn’t retain. They still kinda got screwed, but cap is king.
Exactly this. Expect them to be brokers at the deadline.
Oilers going to be sliding into their dms.
I think its a win win. Cap space is a huge win. Not many teams that have that flexibility. He was dead cap for them anyway.
Hoping Montreal supports him from a mental health standpoint
This is nuts!😊
Kent Hughes is a wizard
I want to see the old Laine back, where he scored 40 goals per season. Hopefully this fresh start helps
My gut tells me Laine has put his issues behind him and being in the lead kingdom of hockeydom is just what he needs. He will thrive there.
Not sure I like the idea of a so-called "problem" going to Montreal. The rebuild is working because everyone has bought in. Could Maty make a difference in Laine's attitude and performance? If yes, he solidifies his reputation as a terrific coach that builds a TEAM. The good news is that the contract is only for 2 years, which means they could reform Laine and ship him off at the deadline this year, or next. I watched the Kent Hughes news conference and it was good to hear the process that Montreal went through to put Laine to the test. It's now up to him.
same concern here. Though, I think of Laine of less of a problem than PLD. At least Laine took steps to get himself better through the PA program. I think that as long as he loses the ego and accepts being part of the team, he'll do fine (though knowing our luck, he'll probably play very well, but get injured about 10-20 games).
I think the gambit isn't that big. No matter what he's a good bargaining chip at the next trade deadline for any team needing a scoring touch
Zero cap retention is huge for Columbus. Now we’ll just have to see which Laine shows up to Montreal…
How many Laine exist 🤔
If it was about saving cap space, it might be good. But it's first and foremost about saving cash for Columbus. They probably won't even use the 4 million of cap space on anything particular anyway, as both Fantilli and Jiricek are due a raise right after the contract would end.
@@romaliop elvis contract dump now
Thanks to MTL for not subjecting us to any more opinion articles about Laine’s next destination.
A fresh start, Laine says. Ever notice players don’t go to Columbus for those, they often leave there for them?
Hope the fresh start is good for Laine, but then I said that about Drouin when he started playing in the high-stress Montreal market. But yeah, only 26, could still rebound into a great top 3 or 6 forward, and if not it's only until 2026, which is around the time the Habs are supposed to be truly competitive again. They had the cap space and could spare the assets they gave-up, so this is low-risk, high potential for the Habs.
As a leaf fan i just know every game against the habs either him or caufield are gonna score a hatty
Caufield don't have a hat trick yet so it a bit soon to say that but it should be exciting.
I really like this trade by the Habs. Laine can definitely bounce back in Montreal. He isn't used to a big market like Montreal, and for some it may be a problem, but for him I think it'll be alright. The expectations have been lowered in his case, there's a solid core in Montreal already and honestly I don't think the fans find Harris' moving out to be much of a bother because there are so many good prospects just waiting to take his spot, so they'll cut Laine some slack. IMO Harris kinda peaked already, or wasn't evolving anymore with Montreal, so it'll probably be good for him too, and maybe he will get better. I think Laine will find it motivating to play with a driven team, and it is going to be a driven team starting this season. Also, reminder: he is only 26!
Columbus is still not out of the woods entirely cap wise, since they still got Johnny Hockey on the books for an eternity. Hope Monahan rekindles some of his magic.
Montreal gets out of a defensive logjam, acquires more draftcapita and only has to suffer that 8.7 caphit for 2 seasons if Laine doesn't pan out at all.
Dude is a moody glass cannon but when he's healthy and on his game, he's still a legitimate top 6 forward and could pot anywhere between 20-50 goals and 1.0+ ppg on a full season. That won't happen though but even 20+ goals and around 0.7 ppg with most of the season played would be good for the Habs. They need skill and someone who can shoot the puck, not too many PP guys either who shoot right so in theory all they need.
If any team in the atlantic is below 82 points, id be shocked
Completely fine with this as a Habs fan.
Not sure Montreal is where you want to end up after being in the player assistance program
There's value to the CBJ having freed up $8.5mil worth of cap space for two years, you can use that to accumulate draft picks throughout next season and especially at the trade deadline...
This also opens up space for Hutson and Mailloux on the back end.
yo Shannon Laine was traded for Harris, you might wanna make a video on it ASAP!!
…this is that video…
Lmao
Not good deal for the Habs, they did much better deal taking Monahan off the the Flames. The got a first round for taking on less salary.
That’s it! Back to Canada
The Jets and Jackets were two teams that won the 2016 lottery.
So in the end the Jets wind up with Laffalo, Vilardi,kupari and a 2nd round pick for the 2nd overall pick.
Jackets wind up with Harris for the 3rd overall pick.
And yet Laine and PLD somehow had their best seasons in Winnipeg.
Stoked! Hughes biggest moove...and risk. If this works out..!
Imo the top 6 this year should be
Slafkovsky-Suzuki-Caufield
Demidov- Dach- Laine
What's interesting is not Lanie, but how he'll work out with the Habs offense.
The best thing about this trade is the timing, Laine's contract expires at a good timing for our rebuild. Let's imagine Laine goes back to a 40g scorer, it's just gravy for Habs fans and Kent Hugues gets to pull another master class trading 40g Laine at the deadline on his last year of contract to a desperate team for a huge haul.
And if Laine stays the way he was the last few years we didn't lose anything.
33k views..thats a lucky number.
gohabsgo
Dubois, Laine + a 2nd for Jordan Harris .. CBJ absolutely NAILED it! :)
#goHabsGo
Finally a nice jersey! No retention of salary, but they also gave up a 2nd round pick..Habs care more about draft picks than salary retention..you couldnt fetch a a 2nd round pick for Harris straight up...just on the 2nd rounder alone, the Habs won the deal...it is a great strateguc gamble by the Habs for a 26 year old with elite ability looking for a new start.
Hughes really loves assets that come attached with high draft picks
Patrick Laine is a Hab! Woo hooo!!
I think Habs might have made a mistake here. Laine hasn't been able to score like he did in his first 3 seasons. On top of that most of his goals are ones that carry little value because he scores when the outcome of the game is already decided. Something like a 4-1 goal late in the third for example. I don't know... 8,7M is a lot of money on the cap hit. I hope that he will bounce back and prove me wrong
I like how Laine got to go to Montreal before PLD did
Why?
this is likely PLDs last chance
When a player is off for personal challenges is the team still required to pay them the full amount? Is it treated like an injury?
You have to think Montreal if laine works out are likely a fringe playoff team at best. Id assume when Demidov makes the team they will officially contend
I’m confused by Columbus. Are they resetting a rebuild or trying to make the playoffs? How does the Laine trade help them at this stage?
Lane wanted to be out. Waddle didn't have much choice
Columbus needs more scoring though., not another defenceman. Maybe do a trade with Edmonton, give up a D and get more scoring.
Avs set the precedent sending a 1st w RyJo to rent Walker. A high price for Waddell, as CLB has plenty of cap space. I feel like this is a W for Hughes
Best member of the Montreal Canadiens……KENT HUGHES
Remember when people were debating about who was better between Laine and Auston Matthews?
Laine now has 18 months to prove himself.
By January/February 2026, if he sucks or always gets injured, the Habs will dump him to a contending team for the rest of that season, then he can try to find a team as a UFA.
I like that he thinks he can help us get our 25th cup soon.
Also, he will have to select a new number, there is no way the Habs free up the number 29 for him, we retired it in 2007 in memory of Ken Dryden.
not likely, but if Hughes could find a way to use that 2026 2nd to get Yaroslav Askarov he would be a genius
Oh shit haha. Good point
As a CBJ fan, I'm happy. The issue is resolved, the salary is moved, and we get a defenseman.
The only thing Im scared for Laine is his mental capacity to take on the pressure in Montreal. I just hope the fanbase is able to give him the time and not shit on him at every mistake
The more talented players you have, the more pressure is shared by several players.
@@RochelGermain Totally agree, but being the new star player on the block do put expectations in the mind of fans and I don't want them to go crazy on him for any small mistakes. Habs fans do be known for that in the past
@@Lord_Piment53 Well, in reality the medias try to influence the fans. The real fans are more smooth than the media.
I still have emotional damage from the last time they traded a young D for a scorer, ffs
I feel you but this time, the lost is low. Harris had no future in the habs d-core with all the young defensemen coming up.
At worst, we lost a D that we would've get rid of eventually anyways and still got a 2nd round pick for it.
At best, we lost next to nothing for a star player and a 2nd round pick.
If Laine can keep his head on straight and gel with the rest of the team and the system this could work out for the Habs
Damn. I wanted to see him with Barzal.
I was just waiting for this video, quick work THG
Hughes is cooking... Now he needs to do a Blockbuster with CGY
To MTL
Huberdeau & Kadri to play on a 2nd line with Laine... fire!!!
To CGY
Anderson, Gallagher & Price
Maybe he can get his career back on track. If not, I'm guessing the season 26-27 he'll be back in Finland. Good luck to him and Canadiens.
It's a swing. I hope it works
If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, Laine would be Halloween.
When he shows up, he's excellent, top 3 on any team he could play for. But that's what, 40% of the time? Maybe 35%?
This is the third team where I'll say "I hope it goes well and he finds his place" but after how the last two went down? I'm not surprised it took a draft pick not to retain.
He's not just a risky bet, knowing how finicky he gets with minutes and exposure, he can genuinely be a liability.
Keep him away from leadership roles, even if he does well.
Second line unless he's having a career year (or the first line turns to dogshit).
And (not kidding) keep him away from media.
Columbus doesn't get a lot back, save cap space, but given his last year with the Blue Jackets.. I'd rather have cap space than dead weight.
This is an interesting deal where it seems both teams really make out but I still think Montreal got the better of the two. We will see how Laine actually performs though.
It’s a weird trade when you can say “yeah we got Patrick Laine!” And “yeah we dumped 8.7 M in cap!”.. and they both sound equally exciting. Time . Will. Tell
Good thing Laine, known for his lackadaisical stretches and propensity to lessen effort, is in a very forgiving media market and a super level headed fan base :)
Montreal "in theory" gets the best player in the trade, of course barring any injury that Laine often incurs, as well as any potential defensive liability and locker room issues he might bring. Laine has already talked himself off a couple of teams already...
Yea this is what I was thinking, the second round pick guy could go on to have the longest career out of them all
Guy just needs to play in a legit hockey city.
Harris is a good defenceman and will do well in Columbus. He needs more ice time than what he got in Montreal to really show how good a player he can be.
I think Shannon wore the wrong sweater - Harris was a better player last year than Laine. Not saying that Laine potentially is not better than Harris just that he wasn't for a couple of years. The potential is that Laine plays for a few games for the Habs. This is a more risky move for Montreal than fans seem to think.