I always purchased tools and electrical accessories which made my job simpler, easier, and created a better standard in the finish of the work - ie improved my productivity.
Unfortunately comparing to Amazon and CEF is not the way to go. Just stick the product in your search bar and the majority of time you will find it cheaper elsewhere.👍🏼
It has to be remembered that the tool companies will always be developing their products - develop or die, how many times have you bought tools or gear that you didn't need - a good example of this is tool bags. Its like a fishing tackle shop- there is more stuff in the shop to catch the fisherman that there is the fish.
So the general conclusion (which seems true of most industries with trade shows) is you can save more online by shopping around and buying individual tools off different sites (subject to free P&P), or you can get it all in one go where you can see the products at a trade show for a reasonable-ish price? And part of that will come down to how you value your time, and are you just going to a trade show for buying tools or going anyway to see new products etc.?
Biggest problem is that most manufacturers will set a price or price range for their products so shopping around might not get you big discounts. Also, trade shows rely on you feeding of the buzz and excitement on the day and you going there with a list of what you want but not necessarily a list of comparative prices. I worked in and around retail and marketing most of my career and the tricks used to get you to buy are unbelievable. The brand or manufacturer will squeeze everyone up the chain then apply a very healthy margin and pass on to the . retailer who will squeeze the consumer until his eyes pop. To get lower prices for selling to the consumer means the retailer has to buy in bulk but don’t expect big savings any more. Those days are long gone. I’m a tool and gadgets junkie like you but as I’ve got older I’ve started researching more & buying smarter. If I will use it every day I buy quality otherwise I look at cheaper alternatives and gauge how long they will last only using the occasionally. Sorry for the sermon and teaching my granny how to suck eggs😂😂😂
Had the torque driver set for a year now and love it, great piece of kit and only reason i bought it over the Wiha version was liked the adjustment without another tool. You would be better to buy the PH+- bits..
I brought wera torque screwdriver and found that the bits provided did not make a good connection on the screw heads etc. I now still use my old screwdrivers and try and use the flat head bit on cross head screws
It’s a shame how expensive tools are now a days. In general they aren’t good value for money. For the video I would have probably just compared the show to the cheapest options available online because that’s what you would do if you were trying to get a good deal.
All of that is available on Amazon for £360. You didn’t give a description of the large joker so I priced up xxl joker. I’ve recently stopped buying tools, I now buy food instead.
I’m just a DIYer but like decent tools. I use camel uk to track Amazon prices. I set a price I would be happy to pay and then it emails me if it makes it to that price. Does not always happen but I have saved quite a lot in the past.
I have a quick question. If you get called out to swap a faulty charger that you have fitted. Do you charger the customer, the manufacturer (Easee, who have sent a replacement) or do you take it on the chin.
@@leereid252 no problem, yes loads of times! I done one today for Ohme, I’m also doing a video on it so hopefully your get some insight on it soon, getting paid can be an issue - hence the controversial video coming soon potentially, and a big thank you for watching my videos, really appreciate it 👍👍
Cheers Adam. I really appreciate your feedback. Even though I installed the charger. It’s not my fault that it’s faulty 🤷🏻♂️ obviously my customer is gonna call me to say the charger I installed isn’t working properly. Easee have sent a replacement to the customer. So I will be fitting it tomorrow. It doesn’t sit well with me to do it for free. Look forward to seeing your video on this subject. Love your videos. You can tell you put a lot of effort into them and I’ve learned so much 👍
@@leereid252 if it helps give me a call tomorrow and I can offer some more guidance. 01329 623101 You’re absolutely right, the product warranty lies with the manufacturer not you. Thank you 🙏 I certainly try my absolute best
yes i have seen a black toilet before XD i work in props on tv and film and commercials a lot of are shot in peoples homes, this one place had an entirely black toilet room i mean the floor walls ceiling toilet sink everything was black it was super weird in a really bright lit house lol
@@liamblood5239 we wouldn’t have such a tool theft epidemic if crime was actually punished and people stopped buying tools that have clearly been stolen.
@@sotaelectrical absolutely I was only poking fun. Luckily the only people I have to put up with is my workmates and their sticky fingers at times, a screwdriver in the pocket type situation Luckily haven’t had any large amount of tools nicked, but it would be crippling if I did. Aswell as it being our lively hood being dependent on the tools there is also a emotional attachment to some of our tools. Still have my first set of good screwdrivers I got myself after my first stage of college. If I lost those it would hurt
Love the tools but it is an industry thing why most of the tools VDE what is the benefit to you as a user unless it is live work? Why are you doing live work what are the special circumstances? Would love to read the RAMS. It’s the cost that puts me off, I have a set of RS own brand screwdrivers not VDE and they are still 100% perfect they are 5 years old and I have put them through hell and my VDE set look battered. How do you look after the VDE tools as per manufactured instructions? Are they clean not damaged is the insulation all ok do you check it before every use? General answer No. how many times a day do you drop them? As sparks we have to spend out so much on equipment and get it tested every year. Hand tools can you afford VDE when 99.999% circuit is dead?
Interesting that you thought the torque driver, a bit too plastic (4:55). I bought the same set about 4 year ago and the plastic split exposing the metal rod, just above the bit that you set the torque, I sent it back and switched to Wiha. Never heard anyone else have the same issue though, so could have been a one-off. I think we all just pay for the name assuming it is going to last forever
I always purchased tools and electrical accessories which made my job simpler, easier, and created a better standard in the finish of the work - ie improved my productivity.
Add your wear & tear + fuel + time on the van/car, Online is always cheaper.
Definitely
Unfortunately comparing to Amazon and CEF is not the way to go. Just stick the product in your search bar and the majority of time you will find it cheaper elsewhere.👍🏼
💯
It has to be remembered that the tool companies will always be developing their products - develop or die, how many times have you bought tools or gear that you didn't need - a good example of this is tool bags.
Its like a fishing tackle shop- there is more stuff in the shop to catch the fisherman that there is the fish.
Slotted Pz bits, for protective devices and consumer units. Smaller sizes can be fiddly.
So the general conclusion (which seems true of most industries with trade shows) is you can save more online by shopping around and buying individual tools off different sites (subject to free P&P), or you can get it all in one go where you can see the products at a trade show for a reasonable-ish price?
And part of that will come down to how you value your time, and are you just going to a trade show for buying tools or going anyway to see new products etc.?
Biggest problem is that most manufacturers will set a price or price range for their products so shopping around might not get you big discounts.
Also, trade shows rely on you feeding of the buzz and excitement on the day and you going there with a list of what you want but not necessarily a list of comparative prices.
I worked in and around retail and marketing most of my career and the tricks used to get you to buy are unbelievable.
The brand or manufacturer will squeeze everyone up the chain then apply a very healthy margin and pass on to the . retailer who will squeeze the consumer until his eyes pop.
To get lower prices for selling to the consumer means the retailer has to buy in bulk but don’t expect big savings any more. Those days are long gone.
I’m a tool and gadgets junkie like you but as I’ve got older I’ve started researching more & buying smarter. If I will use it every day I buy quality otherwise I look at cheaper alternatives and gauge how long they will last only using the occasionally.
Sorry for the sermon and teaching my granny how to suck eggs😂😂😂
Cef’s online prices and having an account prices are massively different.
Yeah I know but I needed a comparison
Had the torque driver set for a year now and love it, great piece of kit and only reason i bought it over the Wiha version was liked the adjustment without another tool. You would be better to buy the PH+- bits..
Those torque screwdrivers for the exact same set here in Australia is equivalent to 228 quid
I brought wera torque screwdriver and found that the bits provided did not make a good connection on the screw heads etc. I now still use my old screwdrivers and try and use the flat head bit on cross head screws
Interesting feedback thank you 🙏
It’s a shame how expensive tools are now a days. In general they aren’t good value for money. For the video I would have probably just compared the show to the cheapest options available online because that’s what you would do if you were trying to get a good deal.
All of that is available on Amazon for £360. You didn’t give a description of the large joker so I priced up xxl joker.
I’ve recently stopped buying tools, I now buy food instead.
I’m just a DIYer but like decent tools. I use camel uk to track Amazon prices. I set a price I would be happy to pay and then it emails me if it makes it to that price. Does not always happen but I have saved quite a lot in the past.
Never heard of that! Thanks for the comment I will look into it! 👍
I have a quick question. If you get called out to swap a faulty charger that you have fitted. Do you charger the customer, the manufacturer (Easee, who have sent a replacement) or do you take it on the chin.
Charge the manufacturer
Thanks for getting back Adam. Have you had to do this before?
Love your videos by the way. Keep them coming 👍
@@leereid252 no problem, yes loads of times! I done one today for Ohme, I’m also doing a video on it so hopefully your get some insight on it soon, getting paid can be an issue - hence the controversial video coming soon potentially, and a big thank you for watching my videos, really appreciate it 👍👍
Cheers Adam. I really appreciate your feedback. Even though I installed the charger. It’s not my fault that it’s faulty 🤷🏻♂️ obviously my customer is gonna call me to say the charger I installed isn’t working properly. Easee have sent a replacement to the customer. So I will be fitting it tomorrow.
It doesn’t sit well with me to do it for free.
Look forward to seeing your video on this subject. Love your videos. You can tell you put a lot of effort into them and I’ve learned so much 👍
@@leereid252 if it helps give me a call tomorrow and I can offer some more guidance. 01329 623101
You’re absolutely right, the product warranty lies with the manufacturer not you.
Thank you 🙏 I certainly try my absolute best
yes i have seen a black toilet before XD i work in props on tv and film and commercials a lot of are shot in peoples homes, this one place had an entirely black toilet room i mean the floor walls ceiling toilet sink everything was black it was super weird in a really bright lit house lol
That’s interesting!!
Wow, shocked Adam at the prices. But, you definitely need good quality tools, I always say, you get what you pay for. Great content.
Thanks Paul, yeah I know super expensive!!
I got my wera torque screwdriver set from Amazon for £127. It was 3 years ago though
Prices have gone up!!!
used to be you could get a bargain on the last day of a show, damaged box etc.. but not anymore
Cef prices are way lower in store, you can never go on there book price
Yeah I know mate but general public won’t know those prices, I was trying to be in general
I've just had the vde set of joker spanners delivered today for £143.21 from Amazon
Bargain
But you also lost a days pay as well
Yes agreed
I got that same torque screwdriver set for £100
You got a bargain!!
If you buy 4 wera tool do you not get the cheapest free? We did at the tool show
I didn’t!!
@@sotaelectrical try professional builder toolfair next time 👍
@@ksly7426 will do thank you 👍👍👍
Would've got it all cheaper from ebay mate. And even better when they have the 15% off promotion on
Thanks for the tip mate, I’m going to dive deeper into this next time
Would say you weren’t ripped off but more likely you paid the proper retail price for it all
Why are they called joker spanners ?
Because of the design where you don’t have to take them off
I could definitely get them from a boot fair cheaper, juts might have someone’s name written in them
Let’s hope you don’t fuel the tool theft epidemic 👍
@@sotaelectricalprobably wouldn’t have such an epidemic of tool theft if say… 4 fancy spanner’s didn’t cost 200 pounds.
@@liamblood5239 we wouldn’t have such a tool theft epidemic if crime was actually punished and people stopped buying tools that have clearly been stolen.
@@sotaelectrical absolutely I was only poking fun. Luckily the only people I have to put up with is my workmates and their sticky fingers at times, a screwdriver in the pocket type situation
Luckily haven’t had any large amount of tools nicked, but it would be crippling if I did.
Aswell as it being our lively hood being dependent on the tools there is also a emotional attachment to some of our tools. Still have my first set of good screwdrivers I got myself after my first stage of college. If I lost those it would hurt
@@liamblood5239 yeah sorry it’s a personal thing for me, I had my van done and I lost all my handed down apprentice tools which was the worst part.
Fact is you shop around and you can find things cheaper, I thought elex harrogate was expensive
because its an MCB bit
You got it mate
Love the tools but it is an industry thing why most of the tools VDE what is the benefit to you as a user unless it is live work? Why are you doing live work what are the special circumstances? Would love to read the RAMS.
It’s the cost that puts me off, I have a set of RS own brand screwdrivers not VDE and they are still 100% perfect they are 5 years old and I have put them through hell and my VDE set look battered.
How do you look after the VDE tools as per manufactured instructions? Are they clean not damaged is the insulation all ok do you check it before every use? General answer No. how many times a day do you drop them?
As sparks we have to spend out so much on equipment and get it tested every year.
Hand tools can you afford VDE when 99.999% circuit is dead?
Cef would always discount those tools by 10-20%.. so closer🤔🤔
Yeah definitely closer
Cef are well overpriced for everything. They are my last resort, even with a discount.
I’ve found CEF have become very competitive on tools, including power tools and will price match if not come in cheaper
In reality it's still expensive. You can source.all 3 these for cheaper
Yeah agreed
Interesting that you thought the torque driver, a bit too plastic (4:55). I bought the same set about 4 year ago and the plastic split exposing the metal rod, just above the bit that you set the torque, I sent it back and switched to Wiha. Never heard anyone else have the same issue though, so could have been a one-off. I think we all just pay for the name assuming it is going to last forever
I think you’re right mate, brands cost.