When they talk about shattering all expectations, Krohnen is one of them. Krohnen / K9999 forever thought lost to the franchise due to fear of legal reprisal, now changed up his look, moved around a few questionable moves, and is now a fully legally distinct character from Tetsuo of Akira fame, so lawyers back off! I don't think I have ever seen a character removed/blacklisted from a stories canon, then 20 years later re-introduced!
@@rooflemonger One, I’m pretty sure SNK did not kill off Foxy, at least not after XI. This may be a stretch, but there’s an interaction with Kula and Angel in KOF XIV that say “did someone else already take down Foxy?”, likely saying that Angel wasn’t just for Fan service and SNK was planning K9999’s comeback and didn’t put him in All-Stars for either time constraints or no risking copyright without full permission. I’m sure Foxy is still alive. And two, SNK secretly made a hint to K9999’s comeback when they said they would bring songs from the KOF series. How would people respond to the appearance or absence of “Rulers of the Dark” 2001 and “Napoleon Trance” 2002 without him?
I’ve kinda come around on Krohnen’s design. He looks like SNK just put a wig and sunglasses on K9999 as if to say ”Look, this is our brand new original character! He’s totally unrelated to any other character that we could potentially get sued over, and any likeness to prior characters is 100% accidental”.
And considering how he's been on the run from ex-NESTS members (namely Foxy and Diana) and the Ikari Warriors canonically for a fair while in-universe, it fits. Lmaooo
I prefer Krohnen's design over K9999's, not I think it's cooler, I think K9999 just feels like Tetsuo just randomly shows in a KOF game, but Krohnen feels like a KOF character that homages to Tesuo (I hope I'm not the only one). Looking forward to play with him.
Remember if you like the character breakdowns in terms of their story(as well as the trailer breakdowns) check the playlist at the end as I have gone over pretty much everyone* in a similar fashion to this video! Time to catch up on the story before KoF XV launches! Also new Beta test is later this week so check that out as well *Sorry K', maybe your trailer shouldn't have launched against melty blood launch, I was too busy!
@@dotintegral his trailer hit like 2 hours before Melty went live. I try to work within a timeframe of everything but that was a "pick and choose moment" and a whole new game had to win over a trailer
@@rooflemonger i actually remember that cause i went hard in on melty at launch but as a long-time noncompetetive player of KOF i was hoping for a K' breakdown from you as ive always loved playing as him AND he was announced early in the marketing but didnt get the gameplay trailer until months after, but hell, even i was preoccupied with Melty at the time
5:51-5:55 Well the animosity between Kula and Angel still exists somewhat. They have their own Fateful Battle theme in XIV (A remix of Ice Place from 00'). It still gets me that SNK brought this character back. And he's voiced by KENN so the Yu-Gi-Oh & Black Clover fan is gonna have a field day with this guy.
Man, during the NESTS saga it really felt like they were going somewhere with Kula, didn't it? Now she's just energetic and obsessed with candy, that's like her whole character.
10:18 Nameless DOES have a story though. He's the 9999th clone of K' (hence why the white part in his hair). The short version is that his lover Isolde died while being experimented on by NESTS, and the glove he wears basically has her "energy/soul" in it (that's where the blue girl from his climax is all about). Instead of betraying NESTS, he stayed loyal to them hoping he could find a way to revive Isolde eventually.
He has the nest inhibitor glove though, i know she ain't the sharpest tool but having her not recognize him just to have her on a team with those jackasses is abysmal writing.
Your take on Krohnens backstory Is interesting. Never thought that he would want to hide purposely by changing his look. Makes the emotion in the trailer a lot better
That's just what I get out of it. The outfit is entirely too busy unless its someone going all the way out of their way to make sure they aren't recognized.
Definitely K9999, a mature version of him with his powers more under control. Many complain about SNK now is forgottening Nameless, but sincerly he was not even canon, was K9999 the one who has history in the main game. But there is still posibility to introduce Nameless in the future he have a total different background and origin and on the contrary of Krohnen, Angel, Kula, K', Maxima and all that NEST traitors, Nameless is still faithful to NEST, he could be a persecutor to take down all NEST traitors in a future KOF.
I like what they did to bring back K9999 but I especially like that they named him "Krohnen" as an obvious reference to David Cronenberg, the master of body horror. SNK is doing good work.
I really like his name, because on one hand K-roh-nen is phonetically very reminiscent of K-four-nine, but also it's a clear reference to Krohnenberg which fits with his body shifting super move.
Is a word "Silber" is on Krohnen jacket? Man... I really want Silber, Tung Fu Rue, Takuma (based on 02um version with kof13 command grab) and Daimon (based on 02um version with kof14 ex groundpound). Also O.Yashiro and O.Chris. Btw, great video as always Evil Canadian
I'm really intrigued on how his lore with Angel will be, does he remember her? Is he the "friend" She mentioned? Did she knew this all along? And more important, with his return, is Angel still be "The Angel of Justice" and fight Krohnen or return to be evil?
If they are on the same team I feel whatever progress made with team Mexico is gonna go right into the dumpster and its back to big time trouble again. KoF 2001 basically made them out to be bonnie and clyde.
@@rooflemonger I hope not, Angel being not so easy to convince may be better for the plot (at least for me and everything she went through in KOF XIV, literally almost die because of NESTS fault).
@@GlaZim Five months into the future and I can tell you that they more or less got a happy ending in XV. Turns out they just flat-out let Kula go (and back to Foxy and Diana, the former of which they maimed as you saw in the video) because apparently even _they_ found her annoying. Lmaooo But yeah, also because Krohnen's been on the run for enough of a while that the paint on his glove is chipping away as opposed to K' and Kula, whose gloves are pristine in comparison. Oh, and Ángel probably provided for Krohnen by way of being in the Mexico team. Likely for the tournament money or just to get some basic amenities for each other while Krohnen is on the DL.
@@yourboyrussell6738 haha yeah, If I didn't see their new lore in this 5 months I would be kinda stupid. Thanks for actually answering anyways. And yeah, I'm kinda angry how their lore turned out. So much more could he done and just made like nothing changed on Angel during KOF XIV (She became a better person) and then throw everything to the trash for fanservice.
Thank you soooooo much for explaining this. I was super confused about all the legal stuff going on with this character. 😎🍻 Now shattered our expectation more and bring back Rugal or another sam sho character 😎🍻
Why do people believe the myth that SNK didn't use K49 because of legal reasons? That was not the case, even though it seems like a likely conclusion. SNK just simply hated the character's design and how unoriginal he was. Simple as that.
Not gonna lie, if the writers do put Kula in to be on a team with K49 and Angel and up play her stupidity as a excuse to put her on a team with people that can't stand her without addressing Foxy in any way that will be abysmal writing.
I've been waiting to hear what this guy was all about since his return! I learned from you earlier about him getting erased from the records, but now he's back under a new name and look! It'll be interesting to see what he'll in the KoF15 Story mode!
Sylvie is a reference to a musician and that reference was already dated by the time kof 14 rolled around, now? Its absolutely ancient. I guess its not impossible but its highly unlikely she will return
She is popular and she is an ex-nest character, she has pretty good chances. If the leak is true, she would be one of the characters that has a good chance of coming back as dlc. We'll see.
that ex qcb+K is henceforth the K-Superdash. look at that thing go god I'm so happy he's back! as somebody who loves the story of KOF I'm happy that ángel has her bestie back and I'm happy that everybody from the NESTS saga is finally able to coexist, copyright be damned. definitely looking forward to using krohnen this weekend!
@@neonthehedgehog12 his story has similarities to K' and that's a given since nameless is also a kusanagi clone. Other than that their stories are vastly Different. Nameless is in the moral dilemma of being faithful to nest only to bring Isolde back to life. Whereas k' made the easy decision to betray nest with little to no repercussions besides more killer clones being commissioned to stop him. In terms of Personality, he's reserved and gets in with his task at hand because the only person he ever loved or even knew was abruptly taken from him.
@@dr.hasdan I know his story, it's just that it's too similar to K's with tweaks, Him and K are both clones, both of them had clones that died from nest messing around (only Nameless had MORE), him and K' both can't control their flame powers without gloves, him and K' both worked for nest at some point, both him and K had loved ones(K's sister and not a "lover" in this case) that died because of nest, both dislike Kyo etc etc. Sure he has a different "personality" and a moral dilemma, but he's just built as a more tragic version of K' to feel more sympathetic and it feels stale to me considering we have K' already. And i doubt Nameless would stay with nest so he wouldn't even be different in that aspect for much longer if they stuck with him instead.
Lol. Who said Foxy died when K9999 attacked her? This is the first time I hear someone say that Foxy died and the only reason she came back was just because “K9999 never existed" and therefore never attacked her.
Was it ever actually confirmed K9999 was removed for legal concerns? I don't recall seeing anything definite other than SNK hated him. I'm feeling pretty confident the last team will be Krohnen, Angel and Sylvie.
Its the only possible explanation. If you don't like a character that's one thing, but you don't blank out all mention, patch them out of an existing game, scrub them from the story, and just pretend they never existed unless something bigger is happening.
Iirc K9999/Krohnen and Angel betrayed Kula and Foxy as a declaration of them rebelling against NESTS. Kula and Foxy were loyal to NESTS until Kula met Igniz and she realized he just sees all his projects as worthless pawns to discard when he feels like. Then K9999 and Angel ride off to escape NESTS while Kula helps the good guys beat Igniz.
@@rooflemonger I'm thinking about DLC teams but whip already got a trailer so she should be in one of the existing teams. I just don't think she fits with K' design wise but she does storywise.
The only negative thing about Krohnen's reveal in MY eyes is that while he was revealed late in the tournament, pretty much everyone else would feel... Pale in comparison. I mean when you got someone that SNK tried to act like didn't exist for god-knows-how long, what else is there that would fit the tagline of "Shatter All Expectations"? Regardless, I am still looking up to the eventual last three characters. Never had I been so impatient to wait for Valentine's Day.
The companies fear them being datamined immediately, which they absolutely will when it happens. Thats why no PC betas. The datamines will happen on launch day, they just trying to prolong to a date as far away as they can
I cannot think that maxima will complete the k' team. It would be very anti climatic. These last slots must have been left for last for good reason. Theres no massive maxima fans so cant see SNK saving his reveal for the veeery last stretch. So I think we might be in for more suprises with the last slots
I recently read the KOF XIV manga and perhaps Maxima could be more realistically in Krohnen's teams. My guess, just some NESTS shenanigans of remote control as they did with Kula in the manga.
Apparently three of the four dlc teams has been leaked. This may or may not be true so take it with a grain of salt. So the supposed teams are: Team 1: Haohmaru, Nakoruru, Darli Daggar. Team 2: Rock Howard, B.Jenet, Gato. Team 3: Geese Howard, Billy Kane, Ryuji Yamazaki. And Rugal is in that solo slot supposedly.
I wonder if that level 3 picks off the ground cause of that fire effect/state... On another state, i am dreading the third member of the nests team will be Sylvie Paula Paula. :/
Considering Khronen and Angel are not with NEST the other member could be Nameless. Some of his moveset are different as Khronen and it will shattered all my expectations
brother, do you wanna speculate who will be the upcoming KOFXV silhouette ? also any your wishlist characters to make a comeback ? 🤔 I'll reveal mine after yours bro 😏
Yet another exhaustive look at the exhausting, head-spinning amount of lore you're churning out. Do you have most of this stuff in your head from the years of spending time in game, or do you research a bit leading up to the videos? There's such a ridiculous amount to digest through all the videos you crank out.
There was never any fear of lawsuits. K9999 got the blessing from the creator of Akira. SNK just didn't like him, like a lot of one-and-dones from NESTS saga
Foxy is alive, she's not dead. Why you always putting out wrong info? First it was Those From The Past worshiping/working for Orochi (false, they were trying to steal Orochi's powers for their own god) and now Foxy being dead when she's alive. And no, she's not alive because K9999 was removed from the timeline, he wasn't removed from the timeline until KOF 2002 UM which was in 2009. She survived 2001 even before that.
in a fite series that is 4/techincally 5 button albiet with lots of command normals....yeah...im im thinking im going to pick the character with multi-hitting normals. honestly thought he was just special move heavy...my quest to become the the best Krohnen means i might have to put the DNF beta on the backburner even if i am more curious and potentially excited for it. fite gaem is serious bidness
the only explanation here is VERSE and REVERSE that disrupted the timeline as much as the marvel and DC franchise has a messed up timeline as well canonically.
I fully believe that kim is going to be the last character (after Elisabeth and Kula) and he's gonna be paired with Krohnen and Ángel since Kim likes to rehabilitate villains anyway, I know he's training with Gang-Il but that's the best pair I could think with them
Kim will not be in the game. I am just telling you this so you don't build yourself up. Lots of major players in KoF have missed a game before, this time its Kim's turn.
@@asterhogan1 yes, but there's a first time for everything. Vice has been my fav kof char for 20 years now and she won't make it in either. Sucks, but its still gonna be a good game.
@@asterhogan1 the full base roster as well as the DLC Teams have been already leaked. I won´t spoil it, but if you wish you can look it up. Edit: there are already spoilers in the comments
Krohnen is better than K9999 in terms of design he feels more original but still has a sneaky Akira reference here and there gameplay wise he looks a bit similar to Nameless and overall can't wait for the beta.
rip-offs are not that obvious, there are enough references to make it an obvious homage, at least on SNK's side. If they got into legal trouble for it it's because of assholes not being able to take a compliment. In any case, I love the new look, Tetsuo was a little bitch
with 3 characters left i see no chance that maxima gets in, lets be real ... how popular was maxima compared to kula? .. i seriously would be VERY surprised if he gets in at this point ..
@@Fusso i wish for him to get in ..i have a softspot for the more balanced kinda grappler style (think SF alex) ... that also has shotgunarms and a fulgorhypebeam/ironman unibeam
All the NESTS clone/clone adjacent people have the gloves to help control their power. Without it when trying to use the Kyo flame they would just light themselves on fire. Kula is ice based but the same principle holds.
When they talk about shattering all expectations, Krohnen is one of them. Krohnen / K9999 forever thought lost to the franchise due to fear of legal reprisal, now changed up his look, moved around a few questionable moves, and is now a fully legally distinct character from Tetsuo of Akira fame, so lawyers back off! I don't think I have ever seen a character removed/blacklisted from a stories canon, then 20 years later re-introduced!
Have you seen the potential roster leak that contains leaks all but one dlc team?
Would you consider making a KoF lore summary video?
@@VongolaXanxus I've seen the leak. At this point I pretty much take it as a given as too much of it has been completely correct.
@@VongolaXanxus The only one I’m doubting is Samurai Team. But considering the tagline....
@@rooflemonger One, I’m pretty sure SNK did not kill off Foxy, at least not after XI. This may be a stretch, but there’s an interaction with Kula and Angel in KOF XIV that say “did someone else already take down Foxy?”, likely saying that Angel wasn’t just for Fan service and SNK was planning K9999’s comeback and didn’t put him in All-Stars for either time constraints or no risking copyright without full permission. I’m sure Foxy is still alive. And two, SNK secretly made a hint to K9999’s comeback when they said they would bring songs from the KOF series. How would people respond to the appearance or absence of “Rulers of the Dark” 2001 and “Napoleon Trance” 2002 without him?
Funny fact: Kusanagi (vanilla 2002) have a special intro against K9999, a reference, because Kusanagi's VA also dubs Kaneda himself.
looks like they made the evil kusanagi clone canon now
@@No1FGC he was already canon back in 2003.
I’ve kinda come around on Krohnen’s design.
He looks like SNK just put a wig and sunglasses on K9999 as if to say ”Look, this is our brand new original character! He’s totally unrelated to any other character that we could potentially get sued over, and any likeness to prior characters is 100% accidental”.
Look up a kof character called
Alba miera
And considering how he's been on the run from ex-NESTS members (namely Foxy and Diana) and the Ikari Warriors canonically for a fair while in-universe, it fits. Lmaooo
I definitely prefer the tech arm to the flesh one. And more flames in his moveset is a nice touch.
I prefer Krohnen's design over K9999's, not I think it's cooler, I think K9999 just feels like Tetsuo just randomly shows in a KOF game, but Krohnen feels like a KOF character that homages to Tesuo (I hope I'm not the only one). Looking forward to play with him.
Keohnen looks like an already existing
Kof character from the maximum impact series alba miera
Krohnen still has a good shoutout to Tetsuo in his attire. He’s got on a biker outfit, Akira has biker gangs and tetsuo was in one. Sneaky SNK lol
Remember if you like the character breakdowns in terms of their story(as well as the trailer breakdowns) check the playlist at the end as I have gone over pretty much everyone* in a similar fashion to this video! Time to catch up on the story before KoF XV launches! Also new Beta test is later this week so check that out as well
*Sorry K', maybe your trailer shouldn't have launched against melty blood launch, I was too busy!
I was just wondering if I missed K' breakdown, but apparently not :D
@@dotintegral his trailer hit like 2 hours before Melty went live. I try to work within a timeframe of everything but that was a "pick and choose moment" and a whole new game had to win over a trailer
@@rooflemonger i actually remember that cause i went hard in on melty at launch but as a long-time noncompetetive player of KOF i was hoping for a K' breakdown from you as ive always loved playing as him AND he was announced early in the marketing but didnt get the gameplay trailer until months after, but hell, even i was preoccupied with Melty at the time
5:51-5:55 Well the animosity between Kula and Angel still exists somewhat. They have their own Fateful Battle theme in XIV (A remix of Ice Place from 00').
It still gets me that SNK brought this character back. And he's voiced by KENN so the Yu-Gi-Oh & Black Clover fan is gonna have a field day with this guy.
He can finally be a proper rival to K' now that he's got some shades of his own. Goggle gang's coming for you, K'!
Man, during the NESTS saga it really felt like they were going somewhere with Kula, didn't it? Now she's just energetic and obsessed with candy, that's like her whole character.
Kula's character arc has devolved, not evolved 😰
a Shame.... really...
still love Kula btw. 😁
They didn't Kill Foxy, just injuried her real bad, Foxy reapears in Kof XIII along with Diana, in some Kula moves, in the history and some win poses
They killed foxy. Foxy reappears in the story when K9999 was written out of the story. How they deal with it from here is up to them though.
Can you imagine if Kim is on a team with Angel and Krohnen to "show them the path of justice"?
I've actually thought of the same exact thing
Kim would have to wash krohnen mouth
Out with soap.
Alas no, Kula had a fight with K' and ran away, ended up with Krohnen and Ángel. Kim doesn't seem to be in XV at all...
@@VaatiOfDarkness he will probably be dlc tho
10:18 Nameless DOES have a story though. He's the 9999th clone of K' (hence why the white part in his hair). The short version is that his lover Isolde died while being experimented on by NESTS, and the glove he wears basically has her "energy/soul" in it (that's where the blue girl from his climax is all about). Instead of betraying NESTS, he stayed loyal to them hoping he could find a way to revive Isolde eventually.
Kula's not exactly the sharpest icicle in the freezer, maybe the long hair and goggles is enough to fool her into thinking it's someone else.
Sad but true
He has the nest inhibitor glove though, i know she ain't the sharpest tool but having her not recognize him just to have her on a team with those jackasses is abysmal writing.
"Hello Kusanagi"
"You're not Kusanagi"
hes talking about the other clone he hates
I look forward to your breakdowns.Your Attention to details is unmatched. See you in the beta! Can't wait!
Your take on Krohnens backstory Is interesting. Never thought that he would want to hide purposely by changing his look. Makes the emotion in the trailer a lot better
That's just what I get out of it. The outfit is entirely too busy unless its someone going all the way out of their way to make sure they aren't recognized.
Definitely K9999, a mature version of him with his powers more under control.
Many complain about SNK now is forgottening Nameless, but sincerly he was not even canon, was K9999 the one who has history in the main game. But there is still posibility to introduce Nameless in the future he have a total different background and origin and on the contrary of Krohnen, Angel, Kula, K', Maxima and all that NEST traitors, Nameless is still faithful to NEST, he could be a persecutor to take down all NEST traitors in a future KOF.
But the Krohnen is the Clone of K9999 created by NESTS
Nameless could show up in
Kof 16 if it's a dream match.
So far he was in 3 non canon games
Kof 02 um
Kof x garou densetsu
Possible kof all-stars
Idk whats more shocking the fact they brought him back or the fact he is on the base roster
K9999 is cool and all but
A playable Burnstien would be nice T~T
I like what they did to bring back K9999 but I especially like that they named him "Krohnen" as an obvious reference to David Cronenberg, the master of body horror. SNK is doing good work.
I really like his name, because on one hand K-roh-nen is phonetically very reminiscent of K-four-nine, but also it's a clear reference to Krohnenberg which fits with his body shifting super move.
Is a word "Silber" is on Krohnen jacket?
Man... I really want Silber, Tung Fu Rue, Takuma (based on 02um version with kof13 command grab) and Daimon (based on 02um version with kof14 ex groundpound).
Also O.Yashiro and O.Chris.
Btw, great video as always Evil Canadian
I'm really intrigued on how his lore with Angel will be, does he remember her? Is he the "friend" She mentioned? Did she knew this all along? And more important, with his return, is Angel still be "The Angel of Justice" and fight Krohnen or return to be evil?
If they are on the same team I feel whatever progress made with team Mexico is gonna go right into the dumpster and its back to big time trouble again. KoF 2001 basically made them out to be bonnie and clyde.
@@rooflemonger I hope not, Angel being not so easy to convince may be better for the plot (at least for me and everything she went through in KOF XIV, literally almost die because of NESTS fault).
@@GlaZim Five months into the future and I can tell you that they more or less got a happy ending in XV.
Turns out they just flat-out let Kula go (and back to Foxy and Diana, the former of which they maimed as you saw in the video) because apparently even _they_ found her annoying. Lmaooo
But yeah, also because Krohnen's been on the run for enough of a while that the paint on his glove is chipping away as opposed to K' and Kula, whose gloves are pristine in comparison.
Oh, and Ángel probably provided for Krohnen by way of being in the Mexico team. Likely for the tournament money or just to get some basic amenities for each other while Krohnen is on the DL.
@@yourboyrussell6738 haha yeah, If I didn't see their new lore in this 5 months I would be kinda stupid. Thanks for actually answering anyways.
And yeah, I'm kinda angry how their lore turned out. So much more could he done and just made like nothing changed on Angel during KOF XIV (She became a better person) and then throw everything to the trash for fanservice.
honestly, this beta has me really excited. if they fix the netcode, the potential in this roster is gonna make everything so fun.
Thank you soooooo much for explaining this. I was super confused about all the legal stuff going on with this character. 😎🍻
Now shattered our expectation more and bring back Rugal or another sam sho character 😎🍻
I like Krohnen's design apart from the goggles but after hearing you're description i kinda like them.
Why do people believe the myth that SNK didn't use K49 because of legal reasons? That was not the case, even though it seems like a likely conclusion. SNK just simply hated the character's design and how unoriginal he was. Simple as that.
Many people believe snk lie
can't wait to try him out in the beta his playstyle looks so interesting
Nameless does have an official background story pretty deep one that is, as it adds new character to the kof universe, just non canon, (yet i hope).
For some reason I believe kula is a permanent member of the K’ because of how K’ sees her
Awesome video, man!
It can be annoying trying to explain this character and his complexities to people.
Thanks for the link LOL
Not gonna lie, if the writers do put Kula in to be on a team with K49 and Angel and up play her stupidity as a excuse to put her on a team with people that can't stand her without addressing Foxy in any way that will be abysmal writing.
Going by a Chinese leak from a while back, Ángel will actually refer to Krohnen as K9999.
So....they're on the same team confirmed?
@@lifegame9542 they clearly are, there's nowhere else she'd fit.
I've been waiting to hear what this guy was all about since his return! I learned from you earlier about him getting erased from the records, but now he's back under a new name and look! It'll be interesting to see what he'll in the KoF15 Story mode!
Would you consider making a KoF lore summary video?
First of those will be dropping this month, trying to cover all the major sagas before kof 15 launch
@@rooflemonger Really looking forward to them! Also sry for asking it twice
Based on that Kusanagi intro I'm starting to think Verse's death disrupted things enough to make 2002 canon lol
You forgot one other potential teammate for krohnen and angel.....sylvie.
Sylvie is a reference to a musician and that reference was already dated by the time kof 14 rolled around, now? Its absolutely ancient. I guess its not impossible but its highly unlikely she will return
She is popular and she is an ex-nest character, she has pretty good chances. If the leak is true, she would be one of the characters that has a good chance of coming back as dlc. We'll see.
that ex qcb+K is henceforth the K-Superdash. look at that thing go
god I'm so happy he's back! as somebody who loves the story of KOF I'm happy that ángel has her bestie back and I'm happy that everybody from the NESTS saga is finally able to coexist, copyright be damned. definitely looking forward to using krohnen this weekend!
I wish nameless comes back. His back story, design and theme song are too good to not bring back.
His backstory is just k's backstory amped to 11 so its not all that unique, my biggest problem with nameless is his lack of personality.
@@neonthehedgehog12 his story has similarities to K' and that's a given since nameless is also a kusanagi clone. Other than that their stories are vastly Different. Nameless is in the moral dilemma of being faithful to nest only to bring Isolde back to life. Whereas k' made the easy decision to betray nest with little to no repercussions besides more killer clones being commissioned to stop him. In terms of Personality, he's reserved and gets in with his task at hand because the only person he ever loved or even knew was abruptly taken from him.
@@dr.hasdan I know his story, it's just that it's too similar to K's with tweaks, Him and K are both clones, both of them had clones that died from nest messing around (only Nameless had MORE), him and K' both can't control their flame powers without gloves, him and K' both worked for nest at some point, both him and K had loved ones(K's sister and not a "lover" in this case) that died because of nest, both dislike Kyo etc etc.
Sure he has a different "personality" and a moral dilemma, but he's just built as a more tragic version of K' to feel more sympathetic and it feels stale to me considering we have K' already. And i doubt Nameless would stay with nest so he wouldn't even be different in that aspect for much longer if they stuck with him instead.
Lol. Who said Foxy died when K9999 attacked her? This is the first time I hear someone say that Foxy died and the only reason she came back was just because “K9999 never existed" and therefore never attacked her.
Was it ever actually confirmed K9999 was removed for legal concerns? I don't recall seeing anything definite other than SNK hated him.
I'm feeling pretty confident the last team will be Krohnen, Angel and Sylvie.
Its the only possible explanation. If you don't like a character that's one thing, but you don't blank out all mention, patch them out of an existing game, scrub them from the story, and just pretend they never existed unless something bigger is happening.
I am hoping for that last team
I’m so sad for characters Chang, Choi, Kim, Billy, and Rock. Maybe DLC love down the road, but… it hurts my fanboy heart
Iirc K9999/Krohnen and Angel betrayed Kula and Foxy as a declaration of them rebelling against NESTS. Kula and Foxy were loyal to NESTS until Kula met Igniz and she realized he just sees all his projects as worthless pawns to discard when he feels like. Then K9999 and Angel ride off to escape NESTS while Kula helps the good guys beat Igniz.
Guile from street fighter is strohiem
Rose from street fighter is lisa lisa
K9999 blue hair is chirico cuvie
Nameless is black jack
Before it ends, do you think Diana and Foxy would return as guardians and K' and Maxima picks up another as a third?
Foxy got no real room to return as a character, there's only 3 slots left. Whip is 100% on the K' team so its either maxima or kula for him.
True Whip could get a different team.
@@MentalDeviant There's no teams left. The next 3 characters bring us to 39 characters, the promised roster.
@@rooflemonger I'm thinking about DLC teams but whip already got a trailer so she should be in one of the existing teams. I just don't think she fits with K' design wise but she does storywise.
@@MentalDeviant She's been on the K' team before, on top of being his sister.
The only negative thing about Krohnen's reveal in MY eyes is that while he was revealed late in the tournament, pretty much everyone else would feel... Pale in comparison. I mean when you got someone that SNK tried to act like didn't exist for god-knows-how long, what else is there that would fit the tagline of "Shatter All Expectations"?
Regardless, I am still looking up to the eventual last three characters. Never had I been so impatient to wait for Valentine's Day.
Well that's exactly why he was left to be one of the last reveals. He's "expectation shattering".
I wish more fighting game betas would come to PC
The companies fear them being datamined immediately, which they absolutely will when it happens. Thats why no PC betas. The datamines will happen on launch day, they just trying to prolong to a date as far away as they can
@@rooflemonger Fair, but it still sucks to have to wait until launch to get a feel if I'd like a new fighter or not.
As in - Kronenberg. David Kronenberg! Dun dun duuunnn
I’m definitely going to be trying Krohnen in the Beta 2
I cannot think that maxima will complete the k' team. It would be very anti climatic. These last slots must have been left for last for good reason. Theres no massive maxima fans so cant see SNK saving his reveal for the veeery last stretch. So I think we might be in for more suprises with the last slots
I recently read the KOF XIV manga and perhaps Maxima could be more realistically in Krohnen's teams. My guess, just some NESTS shenanigans of remote control as they did with Kula in the manga.
It’s funny how they took away his super move’s Cronenberg esthetic and decided to name him Kronen
Apparently three of the four dlc teams has been leaked. This may or may not be true so take it with a grain of salt. So the supposed teams are: Team 1: Haohmaru, Nakoruru, Darli Daggar. Team 2: Rock Howard, B.Jenet, Gato. Team 3: Geese Howard, Billy Kane, Ryuji Yamazaki. And Rugal is in that solo slot supposedly.
Nice that K9999 is back, to be sure, but I have to ask; Heavy D when???
I wonder if that level 3 picks off the ground cause of that fire effect/state...
On another state, i am dreading the third member of the nests team will be Sylvie Paula Paula. :/
Considering Khronen and Angel are not with NEST the other member could be Nameless. Some of his moveset are different as Khronen and it will shattered all my expectations
When they said "We bring characters from the grave" I was surprised, but Krohnen is literally brought back from a place where time doesn´t exist.
brother, do you wanna speculate who will be the upcoming KOFXV silhouette ? also any your wishlist characters to make a comeback ? 🤔
I'll reveal mine after yours bro 😏
I am happy to see this character return. If he lost the googles or at least put the on his forehead it would look much better.
Yet another exhaustive look at the exhausting, head-spinning amount of lore you're churning out. Do you have most of this stuff in your head from the years of spending time in game, or do you research a bit leading up to the videos? There's such a ridiculous amount to digest through all the videos you crank out.
There was never any fear of lawsuits. K9999 got the blessing from the creator of Akira. SNK just didn't like him, like a lot of one-and-dones from NESTS saga
Foxy is alive, she's not dead. Why you always putting out wrong info? First it was Those From The Past worshiping/working for Orochi (false, they were trying to steal Orochi's powers for their own god) and now Foxy being dead when she's alive. And no, she's not alive because K9999 was removed from the timeline, he wasn't removed from the timeline until KOF 2002 UM which was in 2009. She survived 2001 even before that.
Thank you for including
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K9999 is actually a K' Dash clone infused with the power of Kyo Kusanagi
Krizalid is a K' clone, k9999 is just another kyo clone
Is there any chance we'll get Saiki? People keep trying to crush my dreams 😭
Im gonna miss the ol fleshy tech
in a fite series that is 4/techincally 5 button albiet with lots of command normals....yeah...im im thinking im going to pick the character with multi-hitting normals. honestly thought he was just special move heavy...my quest to become the the best Krohnen means i might have to put the DNF beta on the backburner even if i am more curious and potentially excited for it. fite gaem is serious bidness
the only explanation here is VERSE and REVERSE that disrupted the timeline as much as the marvel and DC franchise has a messed up timeline as well canonically.
He looks pretty dang cool to me!
" I really like this character. He will be k49 in my upcoming game" - SNK
What if, angel, krohnen, sylvie or nelson
I’m thinking this is another clone and the real k9999 is in hiding
My main is back 😭😭😭 miss his old look tho
Why change the name though? It seems like K9999 is the only thing about him that was specific to KoF and not Akira.
Also fun fact Krohnen translates to K4(Rohn)9(Nene)
In what language?
That's a misconception
KYOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
K49!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey did anyone notice something at 4:40 ? Lol
He looks like an angsty teen who has escaped from home
I fully believe that kim is going to be the last character (after Elisabeth and Kula) and he's gonna be paired with Krohnen and Ángel since Kim likes to rehabilitate villains anyway, I know he's training with Gang-Il but that's the best pair I could think with them
Kim will not be in the game. I am just telling you this so you don't build yourself up. Lots of major players in KoF have missed a game before, this time its Kim's turn.
@@rooflemonger big sad :/ first time he's out in KOF history?
@@asterhogan1 yes, but there's a first time for everything. Vice has been my fav kof char for 20 years now and she won't make it in either. Sucks, but its still gonna be a good game.
@@rooflemonger yeah :/ who's most likely in? Supposedly people are saying foxy or candy might make it back
@@asterhogan1 the full base roster as well as the DLC Teams have been already leaked. I won´t spoil it, but if you wish you can look it up.
Edit: there are already spoilers in the comments
But I thought K9999 was a Clone of K'dash like Krizalid, man I'm confused
nope k9999 is a kyo clone
Krohnen is better than K9999 in terms of design he feels more original but still has a sneaky Akira reference here and there gameplay wise he looks a bit similar to Nameless and overall can't wait for the beta.
KANEDAAAA!!!
So basically Nameless won't appear in this game. Damn you SNK
rip-offs are not that obvious, there are enough references to make it an obvious homage, at least on SNK's side. If they got into legal trouble for it it's because of assholes not being able to take a compliment. In any case, I love the new look, Tetsuo was a little bitch
Still no kula diamond huh smh
So.... RIP Rugal?
with 3 characters left i see no chance that maxima gets in, lets be real ... how popular was maxima compared to kula? .. i seriously would be VERY surprised if he gets in at this point ..
He's Canadian with big sideburns, I am Canadian with big sideburns. Seems to me if they wanna catch the rooflemonger market Maxima is a must have.
Maxima is the Benimaru of the NESTS saga, I think he will be in.
@@Fusso i wish for him to get in ..i have a softspot for the more balanced kinda grappler style (think SF alex) ... that also has shotgunarms and a fulgorhypebeam/ironman unibeam
@@Fusso thats almost an insult to maxima lol
Dude looks like GERMA from one piece
Why didn't you mention how he hates Kusanagi in the first trailer? Lame
What does he need his glove for?
All the NESTS clone/clone adjacent people have the gloves to help control their power. Without it when trying to use the Kyo flame they would just light themselves on fire. Kula is ice based but the same principle holds.
@@rooflemonger
Ah so he wears 2 of these gloves.
Didn't Shattered my Expectations, because I'm still waiting on Krizalid to make a Comeback.
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