Vacuum Sealing Ammo - How Did It Hold Up?

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  • @KaliBlaz
    @KaliBlaz 8 місяців тому +5

    If you take the time to arrange your ammo in the bag determines whether you gonna loose air or stay air tight. If you lay your ammo flat and seal it you will have best results, if you just throw it loose and seal it then any rounds that get sealed upwards will weaken the plastic and poke a hole.

  • @E.L.RipleyAtNostromo
    @E.L.RipleyAtNostromo 3 місяці тому +3

    I’ve had ammo in regular cardboard factory boxes inside good condition .30 cal ammo cans for 50 years, no bags, no silica gel paks inside the cans (but a large one in the safe and closet) no vacuum, no moisture, just fine. Stored indoors or dedicated ammo safe of course with no wild temp swings. Also have reloads from my Father stored the same way in boxes in old .50 cal cans, no bags or gel paks, for over 60 years. That’s over 22,000 days, so I think you’re fine after 30 days sealed and with dessicant paks. 🤔
    You’re overthinking it big time. The only way I would bag anything or go this extreme is if I was outdoors camping and exposed to dew and rain, or on a boat constantly. Think white water rafting, or a month at a hunting camp with your ammo can sitting on the ground 24/7.
    Where you store it is most important, and what environment you expose it to.
    With your setup here though you’re good for at least a century, so if that’s a requirement or it’s going to get rained on constantly or be stored outdoors, then you’re definitely ready for it! 👍

  • @samsoncrosswood7259
    @samsoncrosswood7259 3 роки тому +7

    Have a cheapo version and 12 months later, no loss, in any. Not one. I’m calling user error, or you bought a lemon.
    That said, sealed, even loosely, has to be better than in moisture absorbing cardboard. Plus, you’ve got them in cans with a rubber seal.
    God bless ... and turn off the tv, everyone

  • @youknowit8799
    @youknowit8799 8 місяців тому +6

    They didn’t loose air, they ended up getting air in them.

  • @Anthony-nc9qj
    @Anthony-nc9qj Рік тому +1

    I have been vacuum sealing my ammo since the first food saver went on the market. The key, which i am sure you have learned since this video, is to avoid any piercing of the bag regardless of size of the hole. I use cheapo sandwich bags, and slide each one of the vacuum sealed packs in their own bag, and this prevents any nicks, or damage when sliding in and out of the ammo box. After I started doing this, nothing lost its vacuum seal.

    • @G2niverse
      @G2niverse  Рік тому

      Yeah for sure. When at all possible, I keep them in the boxes and just seal those. If they are loose...double bagging is key like you said. Much easier with rounds that are rounded (9mm, 45, etc). When you get to the more acute rounds (mostly rifle)... gotta double bag because they will pierce if not situated correctly in the bag.

  • @luked2767
    @luked2767 6 місяців тому +1

    I use the thick non transparent stuff.
    I will usually keep them in the boxes as the vaccine sealer I have just crushes them but its added protection.
    Put in some silica gel and seal then put them in another bag.
    I usually buy ammo that has primer pockets and bullets sealed but I will seal them myself if reloading or buying unsealed.
    With .223 / 5.56 I will keep them on stripper clips and put a spoon in each pack (many throw them away and can get alot for free if you know someone in the millitary. It makes loading mags very fast.
    It's mostly protection from moisture/ water but also air and UV and also want to try and keep them at a stable temperature.
    I would not be surprised if russian steel case berdan primers last longer as I have had soviet ammo dated as early as late 1945 (no wartime dates as maybe it's collectable, and I think the Russians still use corrosive primers as they last so long .

  • @wolverines5141
    @wolverines5141 2 роки тому +3

    HA! I've been doing this for 20 years! I leave them in the boxes and seal them up tight. I've had them stored all over; outside, inside, sheds, you name it. I still have ammo and it still works fine.

    • @G2niverse
      @G2niverse  2 роки тому +1

      I finally got my food saver and use it more for this than actual food

    • @wolverines5141
      @wolverines5141 2 роки тому

      @@G2niverse Oh man I use it for so much stuff. I actually vacuum sealed cans of dehydrated food so I could protect them better. Not sure if it was necessary lol.

  • @JoeCubicle
    @JoeCubicle 4 роки тому +2

    I double seal each end, just leave a little extra room. OR... leave a lot then you can cut the bag open, use some, then re-seal. Also, I vaccum-pack them in the box. A 50 rnd box of 9mm just fits sideways in the common size bag.

    • @G2niverse
      @G2niverse  4 роки тому +1

      I like the idea of sealing the whole box... the double seal is definitely needed. Great advice.

    • @JoeCubicle
      @JoeCubicle 4 роки тому +1

      @@G2niverse When I got my food-sealer I looked up usage on YT. A guy sealing up ammo was the first thing I watched. I thought... "I got ammo"! Just make sure you have a pocket knife when you go to shoot, or keep a small pair of scissors in your bag.

  • @ascott6804
    @ascott6804 3 роки тому +2

    Maybe slight vacuum pulled atmospheric pressure from the ammo?

  • @allany7743
    @allany7743 3 роки тому +4

    If its only been a month you could have just left the ammo on the shelf. I think you need a longer sample period

    • @G2niverse
      @G2niverse  3 роки тому +2

      allan y Yes, but I was more concerned with it holding the seal. If the seal is going to fail its going to fail pretty quickly. If it holds for a month, it will hold for a year as long as were not moving it around.

  • @davidthreadgold2110
    @davidthreadgold2110 2 роки тому +1

    Just did this and it works perfect for my go-bag or backpack thanks

    • @G2niverse
      @G2niverse  2 роки тому +1

      yeah perfect application for that...

  • @Nattleby
    @Nattleby 2 роки тому +3

    I use Zcorr VCI bags for long term. I have some Chinese 7.62x39 that vax sealed. I find I have to reseal it about every 2-3 years.

    • @G2niverse
      @G2niverse  2 роки тому +2

      Nattleby thanks...yeah they dont get all the air out...

    • @blackwolf-hm2hi
      @blackwolf-hm2hi 2 роки тому

      After the sealer stops, wait 10 seconds and hit the seal button again, I've Had wolf ammo sealed for over 6 years and still sealed and tight!!!

    • @shockwave6213
      @shockwave6213 Рік тому

      ​@@blackwolf-hm2hiWhat sealer and bag brands do you use?

  • @ilikepineapples7835
    @ilikepineapples7835 Рік тому +1

    Higher powered rounds have a better slug to case seal for higher operating pressures.

  • @andreyoung7931
    @andreyoung7931 2 роки тому +2

    Two vacuum bags is the real deal for Decades.
    A vaccum bag inside another vaccum bag.

  • @garrettpetersen7671
    @garrettpetersen7671 4 роки тому +3

    My food saver vac sealer has the same issue I just double seal stuff

    • @G2niverse
      @G2niverse  4 роки тому

      Good to know... I'll give it a shot.

  • @BigRay1918_
    @BigRay1918_ Рік тому +3

    What vacuum sealer do you use

    • @G2niverse
      @G2niverse  Рік тому +2

      food saver...dont tell my wife...lol

  • @weldnalday8808
    @weldnalday8808 2 роки тому +5

    I double mine its not the air in the bullet its rubbing together on the other bullets i doubled mine up and I have never had that problem again

    • @G2niverse
      @G2niverse  2 роки тому +2

      weldn alday You make a great point!

    • @weldnalday8808
      @weldnalday8808 2 роки тому +3

      @@G2niverse and after I vacuum it and it seals i move the bag down a 1/4 of and inch or so and seal it again 2 seals on the top and bottom

    • @PhonkinPlants
      @PhonkinPlants Рік тому

      What do you mean ammo in boxes and rub against each other

  • @blksubiesti
    @blksubiesti 3 роки тому

    It’s the corners of the rounds under pressure picking through the bag tried thus several times you have to stop the rounds from firming ridges to rip the plastic as it gets tighter

    • @G2niverse
      @G2niverse  3 роки тому +2

      blksubiesti You make a great point!

  • @randomruss651
    @randomruss651 2 роки тому +3

    No in doing this I have 7.62x39 from 1980 that shoot fine and not sealed this way. No problem no problem!

  • @DW-cv6ld
    @DW-cv6ld 4 роки тому +1

    Did you wear glove while handling the stee case before you sealed it?

    • @G2niverse
      @G2niverse  4 роки тому +1

      No i didnt, almost all import steel case is are poly coated so trace oils shouldnt damage the case or cause any corrosion.

  • @Matt.P.
    @Matt.P. 3 роки тому +3

    You could let ammo opened up anywhere and it would be fine after a month..

    • @G2niverse
      @G2niverse  3 роки тому +1

      True

    • @247wingmaster9
      @247wingmaster9 3 роки тому

      He was testing the sealing, not whether or not the ammo was going to be good.

    • @FoxRacingGaming
      @FoxRacingGaming 3 роки тому +1

      @@247wingmaster9 Either way, its a month.... you're missing the point. A year or more, then were talkin.

  • @Adventure_Rig
    @Adventure_Rig 2 роки тому +4

    Load them in the mag then seal it

    • @G2niverse
      @G2niverse  2 роки тому +1

      Not a bad idea...I like it

  • @briandaniel9434
    @briandaniel9434 4 роки тому +2

    If you toss the bags around they can get punctured, maybe what happened to the 9s.

  • @Shaun-eq3cx
    @Shaun-eq3cx 4 місяці тому +2

    I stored my ammo for a month vacuum sealed, I wonder how they look
    lol

    • @G2niverse
      @G2niverse  4 місяці тому

      You do realize this video is like 5 years old right? BTW still have half of it still sealed and its perfectly fine. Stop trying to be a smart ass...its not impressive.

    • @Shaun-eq3cx
      @Shaun-eq3cx 4 місяці тому +1

      @@G2niverse It’s just funny how you can store ammo for one month not airtight and it will look exactly the same after a month
      Anyway, I hope your ammo is still good

    • @E.L.RipleyAtNostromo
      @E.L.RipleyAtNostromo 3 місяці тому

      @@G2niverseIt’s 3 years old. His comment was valid regardless based on the comments in the video. Please read my comment just made. This level of storage isn’t needed unless the ammo is going to be regularly exposed to the elements. Forget looking fine after 3 or 5 years, the way you’re storing it, it will be pristine after 75-80 years easily, as long as you keep it in an ammo can indoors in a temp controlled environment. A floor of an interior bedroom closet is ideal. When I take ammo outdoors, I sometimes do bag it, but then put it in a Cabela’s plastic dry box and you could drop it in the river and it will be fine. Your level of extra precaution is even better in that outdoor example, and I’m not saying it isn’t admirable, but it really isn’t necessary in most cases.

    • @23dsss-zp5jj
      @23dsss-zp5jj 28 днів тому

      @@G2niverse hey can you do a video about the ammo you still have sealed? (maybe firing them?) that would be awesome

  • @jeboteya5489
    @jeboteya5489 4 роки тому +3

    First of all it was only stored for a month, second you didnt test any of it.
    This was merely a foodsaver review

    • @G2niverse
      @G2niverse  4 роки тому +2

      You are aware that my videos do not air in real time right? The original video was filmed LONG before it posted to youtube. But i appreciate the comment and yes, the food saver is awesome.

    • @webfactorysolutions
      @webfactorysolutions 3 роки тому +1

      @@G2niverse but on 5:41 you say "after a month of storage"

    • @PaulM-kc2tk
      @PaulM-kc2tk Рік тому

      No need, there's enough corroboration here from other people that have been doing this for a very long time.

  • @PaulM-kc2tk
    @PaulM-kc2tk Рік тому +1

    I've had about a 95% success rate with bags sealing using food saver I've had some packed for over a decade now.

    • @G2niverse
      @G2niverse  Рік тому

      Thanks for the response @PaulM-kc2tk The ones from this video are still absolutely fine. Beats packing them in cosmoline...lol

  • @tend3928
    @tend3928 4 роки тому +3

    Everything you packed was steel cased. Just buy it in spam can and leave it. Why waste your time repackaging.

    • @G2niverse
      @G2niverse  4 роки тому +5

      Well i was testing out if it works (which it does) and spam cans don't come in nice 40 round packages. You open a spam can and you'll have to package them anyways. I like being able to grab a pack and throw it in my range bag.

    • @anonymousprepper1463
      @anonymousprepper1463 3 роки тому

      Seems like he wanted to..

  • @williamwinn948
    @williamwinn948 2 роки тому +3

    How long do you think these would last submerged underwater. Also maybe keep a razor blade taped to the lid incase you need to get at these fast.

    • @G2niverse
      @G2niverse  2 роки тому +1

      William Winn than have a quick tear tab on the bag so no tools needed...not sure about submerged.

    • @rtimusprime1666
      @rtimusprime1666 2 роки тому +1

      Loose your guns and ammo during a boating accident, gee. ☺️☺️☺️

    • @PhonkinPlants
      @PhonkinPlants Рік тому +1

      As long as it's not deep and it's airtight, should be fine. Obviously the deeper the harder to retrieve. I lost mine in an accident too.

  • @LUVDOGS1954
    @LUVDOGS1954 4 роки тому +1

    I wonder if throwing in a dessicant pack would make a difference? Just the small food grade packets that are included in freeze dried meal? They are cheap on Amazon, silica gel packets. Just wondering. Thanks for the video, just subscribed, lots of interesting videos.

    • @G2niverse
      @G2niverse  4 роки тому +1

      I did throw 3 or 4 in there as well. I got a pack of 250 for $5 I think on amazon.

    • @danmorell483
      @danmorell483 3 роки тому

      Also get gas absorbers. After nobama bullets dont last, they are apparently now made to degrade over time from oxidizing

    • @PaulM-kc2tk
      @PaulM-kc2tk Рік тому

      A dessicant is not a bad idea, an oxygen absorber though is a must.

  • @terrycurtis8361
    @terrycurtis8361 2 роки тому

    There was a little air left. The ones that are more loose can corrode but will take a yr or more.

  • @teokastelan2930
    @teokastelan2930 Рік тому +3

    You should seal it, double or triple. If you have household vacuum. Industrial is much better. So if you have a friend who has professional, vacuum equipment. Do that.

    • @G2niverse
      @G2niverse  Рік тому

      Agreed

    • @Anthony-nc9qj
      @Anthony-nc9qj Рік тому

      I agree. I have been double sealing, or sliding the vacuum sealed bags into cheap regular sandwich bags. It prevents nicks or scrapes when you’re placing into the final storage unit. I found rolls of bags on Amazon that actually make it cost-effective to seal it more than once. Because it starts getting expensive using the actual food saver namebrand.

  • @dogwalkie1705
    @dogwalkie1705 3 роки тому +1

    Can this ruin your ammo because I hear something sliding around sounds like the gunpowder is loose sounds like Maracas so I'm just wondering does it mess it up

    • @G2niverse
      @G2niverse  3 роки тому +1

      Hmmm haven't heard that before.

    • @dogwalkie1705
      @dogwalkie1705 3 роки тому

      @@G2niverse also put petroleum jelly on the outside of the seal on a ammo box we do it on atv air intake seals keeps out moisture

    • @PaulM-kc2tk
      @PaulM-kc2tk Рік тому

      You can always hear the powder moving around in a loaded cartridge. Rifle powder is in larger granules and sounds like sand or even tiny rocks. Perfectly normal. If you CAN'T hear the powder moving, that's potentially an issue.

  • @SPIKEOPS82
    @SPIKEOPS82 3 роки тому +2

    The rim of the ammo cuts the bags. I tried to seal silver and gold coins and they did the same

    • @G2niverse
      @G2niverse  3 роки тому +2

      Good feedback...maybe keeping them in the carton is the way to go??

    • @Macbook3
      @Macbook3 3 роки тому +3

      Why would you vacuum seal gold?

  • @NayokeHenji
    @NayokeHenji 3 роки тому

    I'm considering doing the same with a vacuum sealed glass jar. ignore the jerks commenting. thank you for your video

  • @NoName-um4dt
    @NoName-um4dt 3 роки тому +4

    What I'm wondering about this is would the ammo still perform packed like this for 20 years?

    • @Nattleby
      @Nattleby 3 роки тому +2

      My experience is that the vacuum seal usually fails within a year or 2. I have moved to using Zcorr Vapor Corrosion Inhibitor bags for loooong term storage, or buying spam cans if that is an option. The Zcorr bags are made for 50 cal and 30 cal ammo can sizes and they seal up well.

    • @Nattleby
      @Nattleby 3 роки тому +6

      Also, I can tell you that I have had pistol ammo vacuum sealed in the trunk of my car for two years. I live in PA so hot humid summers and cold wet winters. The ammo looked and fired as if new, no corrosion, misfires, or hang fires

    • @blksubiesti
      @blksubiesti 3 роки тому +2

      It’s absolutely would. I have a case that was sealed back in WW2 of Russian 7.62x54r opened it and it fired perfectly. When I was in the Marines we fired ammo all the time even bigger stuff like 60mm mortars a d grenade launcher rounds that were from Korea and Vietnam era

    • @MegamanTheSecond
      @MegamanTheSecond 3 роки тому +1

      @@blksubiesti yea get some ammo cans or pcv pipe and seal them up with air absorbers it will easily last 20 years just open them up every 5 years and reseal them to be safe

    • @blksubiesti
      @blksubiesti 3 роки тому +2

      When I was in Iraq we were firing some ammo
      Made in Korea and Vietnam with no problems I personally have some from WW2 that works fine. Let that guide you lol
      I wouldn’t say leave it in a lake for years but a shelf in your house it’ll be fine

  • @Dude17768
    @Dude17768 4 роки тому +3

    They don’t hold up. Just store In the ammo can lol

    • @G2niverse
      @G2niverse  4 роки тому +1

      I dont know man, so far the 9mm was the only one that failed. Every other pack has stayed sealed and its been close to 9 months now.

    • @900stx7
      @900stx7 3 роки тому

      I've stored a whole 1400 rd 22LR "Bucket of Bullets " in 14, 100rd bags.
      It's been at least three years now and all are still sealed up tight

  • @chucks_88
    @chucks_88 2 роки тому +3

    I have 45ACP and 40 S&W and 223and 76x39 in the box they came in and are stored in a foot lockers from 2016 or longer and they shoot just fine so I really get all these doomsday prepper people? But hey, it's your time and money so all the power to you all. But with that said I'm sure there could be good reasons to do this for some people?

    • @thesayxx
      @thesayxx 2 роки тому +3

      well i have them in the original boxes and the brass started to darken due to moisture in the air

    • @onedaycloser2death224
      @onedaycloser2death224 2 роки тому +1

      @@thesayxx need silica packets

    • @teddyfresh9605
      @teddyfresh9605 2 роки тому +3

      6 years is nothing. Ammo starts breaking down around the 10 year mark, you'll notice it more in stuff like 22lr. Once the decades pile up the ammo will become completely useless especially if it's unsealed. Thus vacuum packing, putting them in a military can outside of it's box with a good gasket and not opening it until you need it.
      Just because you're an Elmer that goes to Walmart to buy all your needs doesn't mean people who stock up are money wasters. But you quote "really get all these doomsday prepper people" so I'm not sure why you're against this video

    • @ChucksSEADnDEAD
      @ChucksSEADnDEAD 2 роки тому +2

      I've talked to people who had ammo go bad due to infiltrations or even floods. You might not need it where you live.

  • @ronaldmoravec2692
    @ronaldmoravec2692 2 роки тому +2

    Load as a loose pile as junk and you get leaks.

    • @G2niverse
      @G2niverse  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks Ronald Moravec for being a subscriber...love hearing from you guys!

    • @PaulM-kc2tk
      @PaulM-kc2tk Рік тому

      only if you allow them to move around and rub against each other. Keep them stationary and they're just fine. I've had loose packed ammo for over a decade, still nicely sealed.

  • @isaacsosa1000
    @isaacsosa1000 3 роки тому

    Awesome. I thought I created this idea. Now I'm going to send this video to my friends who all made fun of me for doing it.

    • @G2niverse
      @G2niverse  2 роки тому

      burn em

    • @PaulM-kc2tk
      @PaulM-kc2tk Рік тому

      The military created this idea about 100 years ago. or more.

  • @charlesvane5281
    @charlesvane5281 3 роки тому +1

    Seal it then pull it out a little and seal a second time

    • @G2niverse
      @G2niverse  2 роки тому +1

      Good tip

    • @PaulM-kc2tk
      @PaulM-kc2tk Рік тому

      That's an interesting idea but I think you'll find that only the tiniest fraction of your leaks are actually the seal. Still... can't hurt.

  • @tanman7627
    @tanman7627 3 роки тому +6

    I sealed my boxes.
    sealed loose in rows
    placed in ammo can...its not rocket science. you're all welcome

    • @glenk.1639
      @glenk.1639 3 роки тому +3

      I kept wondering why he didn't just seal the whole box, instead of taking the ammo out? Seems like it would make way more sense.

    • @G2niverse
      @G2niverse  3 роки тому +1

      Tan Man You make a great point!

    • @PhonkinPlants
      @PhonkinPlants Рік тому

      ​@@glenk.1639there's different ways to skin a cat.

    • @PaulM-kc2tk
      @PaulM-kc2tk Рік тому

      @@glenk.1639 I've done both. If you want to get more into the ammo can, lose the box, it probably takes up 50% more space.

    • @inaholler8595
      @inaholler8595 10 місяців тому

      The box could contain moisture

  • @TruthSeekers1989
    @TruthSeekers1989 5 місяців тому +1

    Have you (or anyone) ever tried shooting bullets after they've been vacuum sealed? I've read vacuum sealing them can mess them up even though they look good

  • @jeffccr3620
    @jeffccr3620 6 місяців тому +4

    1 month 😅😅

    • @G2niverse
      @G2niverse  6 місяців тому +1

      I mean I can pull them out now 4 years later if that makes you feel better.

    • @jeffccr3620
      @jeffccr3620 6 місяців тому +3

      @G2niverse nah wait another 10 then we will test them

    • @G2niverse
      @G2niverse  6 місяців тому +1

      Lol gun channels on YT will never make it that long

  • @barryoakes5976
    @barryoakes5976 3 роки тому +1

    Lmao,, do you honestly think that the air from inside the cartridge is what made the air in the bags?

    • @G2niverse
      @G2niverse  3 роки тому +1

      Barry Oakes as opposed to? There are no punctures in the bag and its double sealed.

    • @barryoakes5976
      @barryoakes5976 3 роки тому

      @@G2niverse the bag is leaking,, Hence the “other “ bags you have there is no leakage! Lmao,, air from bullets

    • @xippzap
      @xippzap 3 роки тому +1

      I have been using vacuum sealers for quite awhile now, You need to DOUBLE BAG your ammo,That will keep the sharp edges of the extraction ring from cutting your single bag. Or you can use what they call "Bone sheets" to place over your rounds before vacuum sealing. Even then you must handle these gently any rubbing can still cause a leak in the plastic bags. And one last thing...DOUBLE SEAL BOTH ENDS OF THE BAG, Very important. Take your time and experiment plastic is cheap...Good luck.

    • @longiusaescius2537
      @longiusaescius2537 2 роки тому

      @The Faceless Nomad nice any pictures

    • @longiusaescius2537
      @longiusaescius2537 2 роки тому

      @The Faceless Nomad also what are bone sheets?

  • @toYOder
    @toYOder 2 роки тому +4

    Why even bother vacuum sealing steel cased ammo lol

    • @G2niverse
      @G2niverse  2 роки тому +3

      Why not?

    • @billsmith130
      @billsmith130 2 роки тому +3

      Because steel cased ammo rust you Genius 😂

    • @carlosspicyweiner7734
      @carlosspicyweiner7734 2 роки тому +2

      @@billsmith130 that’s the reason he’s seeing it genius. To prevent oxidation genius…

    • @PhonkinPlants
      @PhonkinPlants Рік тому +1

      I can show you what happens when you leave a .45 acp steel round in a shed for 15 years.

  • @yangthao4612
    @yangthao4612 2 роки тому +1

    Vacuum bagging ammo is bad pulls bullets out

    • @aneesa3516
      @aneesa3516 Рік тому +25

      I lost brain cells reading this

    • @barlowjmb
      @barlowjmb Рік тому +9

      Found the fudd.

    • @PhonkinPlants
      @PhonkinPlants Рік тому +2

      Show me

    • @shockwave6213
      @shockwave6213 Рік тому +2

      Only if the case neck tension is so weak a toddler could pull the bullet by hand. There's not much air in a case to begin with. There's an oxidizer already in the powder mixture for ignition, hence why there's very little to start with.