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Developing The CHOPPER GRIP on the Serve (AKA The Continental Grip)
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- Опубліковано 14 сер 2024
- Developing the Chopper Grip (continental grip) on the serve can be one of the toughest challenges for juniors and adults alike, but definitely worth it if you want to improve the mechanics and effectiveness of your serve.
In this video I talk through some of the reasons why you should consider using the chopper grip if you don’t already and some of the drills I like to use to help players to be more confident with it.
Some useful tips for coaches, players and parents, finishing with one of my favourite exercise to develop good pronation and internal shoulder rotation!
0:00 - Intro
0:45 - Why use the chopper grip?
2:17 - What is the chopper grip?
3:11 - Why is it so difficult?
5:19 - How I like to develop the chopper grip
6:29 - Palm out throws
7:38 - Robot slams and flings
8:58 - Hammer/Strings Taps
9:47 - Slow mo swings
11:43 - Downwards Hammer/Strings
13:07 - The Fun One
14:16 - Summary
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you’re the best tennis coach on youtube!!! your explanation are so concise and super informative, keep up the great work!
That’s very kind of you to say, many thanks!!
Thanks for the great content Ashley. Very clear & simple drills for any level.
Glad you like them!
thanks for this!
just took my 6 year old son to the court for the first time last weekend, so only taught him the forehand (with a semi-western grip) but will watch this video again when we get to serving. as for myself, i also got the slinger bag to train on my own, too
looking forward to your next videos!
Love it... you can make lots of fun games out of these exercises. Let me know how he gets on!
Lots of good tips in this video! Thanks for sharing! Also your accent is amazing!
Richard Fincher [Tennis] thanks Richard, glad you thought so! And that’s so funny, Ian at @essentialtennis said the same thing 🤣
Great explanation. It is a pleasure to listen to you.
Many thanks for watching and for your comments!
Ashely, this is of great help as I’ve been struggling for a long time to fix my grip. Is it possible to find anywhere a picture showing the correct way of handling the racket with the true chopper grip?
Very useful, very well explained, thanks a lot.
😊 thanks for watching!
Great lesson 👍
Thanks Omar!
Good, informational video.
Btw love your channel.
Very instructive and useful exercises, Ashley.
Could be a lot more behind back shots in games; LOL
Thanks, Phil
I look forward to seeing your attempts soon 😉
EXCELLENT!
Thanks a lot Leon!
It is true that many instructors teach shaking hands with the racket as the way to the "chopper grip". However, it would seem that a lot of the tennis world considers the "shake hands grip" as the way to achieve an Eastern Forehand Grip. Just wanted to point that out if you were taught to shake hands for a different grip. I personally see it as the best way to the Eastern Forehand grip with the base knuckle on the vertical bevel 3.
Thank you for your thoughtful comment... I agree that the ‘shaking hands’ analogy can be interpreted in different ways and is not the best way to teach the chopper grip. My preferred way to help children to feel the chopper grip is to get them to practice ‘hammer taps’ (downwards bounces using the edge of the racket). This way, they can usually find the chopper grip without having to understand bevel numbers etc. Thanks again :)
Just discovered your Channel and really enjoying it - covers a wider range of Tennis topics than some of the others. Just out of interest, what is the 'model' of tennis shorts you are wearing - Adidas something ? I don't see them covered in your product reviews. Comfortable shorts are one product I struggle to find , for some reason ! Thank you
Hi coach, what if slow mo swings and further exercises give me painful feeling around my elbow and just in the an area lower (towards a wrist)? is it because of bad muscle memory (forehand grip serve) and the fact that I didn.t use these muscles before?
Please could you advise how to tackle this. I tried these exercises few months ago for 20min and I was off from a court for 3 days because of this pain((
I understand when you serve on the deuce court that hitting the serve with a straight angle goes to the T and that angling slightly to the left with cause the ball to go wide. Is this the same but mirrored for the ad side? I.E. straight on for the T and slightly angled to the right means wide? Or it it straight on for wide and angled left for the T?
I am an adult, recreational player, who has been playing for over thirty years. I am trying to change to a continental grip and I am going to use the exercises that you have described. Please could you advise me how long it will be before I can start to use the chopper grip and how many repetitions of these exercises should I perform
Thanks for watching Chris. A few questions to help me answer your questions appropriately...
What grip were you using before and what made you decide to change to continental? Do you have a goal with your serve? Do you have a coach? And how often do you practice/compete?
@@TheTennisMentor I have an eastern FH grip. I want to change, because I want to gain more depth and penetration on my serve, at a recreational level. Recently, I have a couple of individual lessons on the serve with a coach at my club. He advised me that a change of grip would be a long process and suggested that for the short- term I stick with my usual grip . I play tennis about three times a week, including some singles. I have access to solitary practice, because I am a pensioner. I must make it clear that I am not seeking a 100 mph weapon. If you think that I could achieve what I want at a recreational level by sticking to my normal grip, I would be happy.
Thanks, it’s easier to answer your questions with the info you’ve given...
As your coach said, it can be a long process. Initially, changing to the continental grip will likely create a slower serve as it will cause you to hit with slice (your racket will now be leading with the edge as you’re not used to pronating as much as you need to).
In my opinion (and please speak to your coach too) If you’re playing recreationally, I think that you’ll have more success moving to somewhere between eastern and continental, developing a good slice serve with that grip so that you gain consistency with it first... then, slowly flatten out your serve again to create a little more speed. Once you’re happy, move again, closer to continental and repeat. During the process, practice the exercises (you cant go wrong with simply throwing overarm) to develop your pronation.
Going through the process in these gradual steps will allow you to maintain your current success rate and prevent frustration!
At the end of the day, you want to enjoy your time on court... if you rush it, you’ll miss a lot of serves and most likely go back to old ways anyway!
I hope this all makes sense and helps?
Great explanation talking about the chopper grip 💪🎾 what racket is this ?
Tennis Paris Brothers thanks, it’s a customised head speed pro 🔥
Nice video. Curious about your thoughts on this though. Do you think the sports culture kids grow up in has more of an influence on how difficult it is for them to learn the proper service motion? For example, here in the States, most kids learn at an early age how to play baseball or softball. The throwing motion for that involves natural pronation. So kids here learn how to do that at an early age, quite often before they have ever been exposed to tennis (at least, we did when I was a kid, oh, maybe 100 years or so ago!!). But, there in Great Britain, I'm assuming kids don't grow up playing baseball, but, rather football (soccer here in the states). As such, they aren't exposed to that throwing motion at a young age as much as we were. Here's a link to a baseball throwing vid - at about the 4:30 mark the instructor talks about pronation: ua-cam.com/video/1UFFTXGbb8Y/v-deo.html
ACEYOU I think this plays a huge part... I was actually going to mention this in the video but it was already a little too long! You’re absolutely right, if kids can learn to throw properly then their serves will follow. I believe that kids should be exposed to lots of sports to develop all round athletic ability, unfortunately the physical education system at schools in the UK doesn’t really cover many sports that require an overarm throwing action or even tennis for that matter! On top of this, there is a stat that here in the UK, physical literacy in kids has dropped in the last 5 years by around 20%!! Kids don’t go outside to ‘play’ as much anymore, whereas computer gaming has increased massively. So to answer your question again, yes I completely agree with you! Throw, throw, throw!
ACEYOU just watched the baseball video, thanks! If we can get kids to throw properly, the serve will be simple!! Thanks again for your detailed comments!
The more you use tendons and muscles, the greater range you develop. Seems counterintuitive but backed up by science and your shoulder just then!
Absolutely! I was surprised at the difference when I saw it. I train both sides equally when lifting or warming up, same with stretching... shows what years of serving does to your body! Maybe I should adopt a left handed serve for touchtennis to even things out?
The Tennis Mentor my physio was working on my shoulder the other day and we were testing mobility. He was laughing at how bad my left shoulder was.
touchtennis 😂 try the app GOWOD Mobility First. If you want to improve your flexibility and mobility, I think you’ll like it!
The Tennis Mentor 20 slams. I’m good thanks.
Of course... how could I forget?!