Tuam Orphanage: Children Of Shame
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- Опубліковано 5 кві 2024
- Tuam, a name that traumatised the whole of Ireland in the spring of 2014, when an unimaginable story was revealed. A hidden mass grave containing the remains of some 800 children was discovered on the former grounds of a home for single mothers, a hell on earth where children died from ill treatment, and were shamefully buried in secret and forgotten.
Directed by: Saskia Webner, Nicolas Glimois - Розваги
I am someone who was placed with the Convent of the Good Shepherd for 8 months at the age of 15yrs old. I am now 66yrs old but those experiences still live with me.
Must have been awful hugs too you ❤
Sooo very sorry.
Such the exact opposite of all that Jesus taught. I'm 74 years old and I've been done with "The Church" for decades!!!
I was placed with these nuns because I ran from a children's home. There were boys in our runaway group so we were all suspected of " shenanigans". I was sent to the nuns in case I would produce a baby. I had not been touched. So eight months of being locked up. I made several attempts to run away...usually successfully. When caught, I was brought back and locked in a cell...steel door, constant night light and a bucket in the corner. It was for 24hrs..maybe that was the law for 15yr olds...but I had a few spells in the cells. This place still had the Laundries.
Never before has one organisation spread so much pain and grief for so many centuries.
With little or no consequences.
The Christian Brothers (Brothers Grim) were responsible for sending young orphans to unknown people in English speaking countries like Australia and Canada. They weren’t alone. The same happened in England, up to & including the 1960’s with the connivance of UK governments.
Never before has there been such a ubiquitous and long lasting organization. When some over here screw up you can't blame the ENTIRE church! That's ludicrous
@@cyirvine6300 You sure can blame the whole damned lot of them when the cover up comes from the very top.
@@cyirvine6300 its always command responsibility in any organization!
The Catholic Church has one hell of a lot to answer for
The WHOLE church?
they started the Spanish Inquisition, they never said a word during the Holocaust, they committed horrible crimes against the Indigenous children of North America during the Residential School era.
@@cyirvine6300 the leadership. No one is above the law.
You should have watched the entire video, the Church of England is also involved.
@@cyirvine6300 The Pope knew this was happening, so yes the whole church.
The inversion of the teachings of the church.. Took our ancestral knowledge, our way of living and oppressed and brutalised us..Little kindness from them.. Cruel judgement from cruel people hiding behind a habit 🙏
The children mattered. They did nothing wrong. ❤
neither did the mothers
every one matters in this world not just children
So very wicked in the name of God.
@@Rayblondie So in whose name are they aborting their babies now?
The majority of these women were taken advantage of and promised love. Guarantee. The mothers did not deserve this either. Not a one of them.
Thank-you to Catherine Corless for your good work. Deep condolences to everyone who was bereaved of their child or sibling, or deprived of their mother.
Thank you ❤
And the butterbox BABIES❤
This reads like a HOROR SORRY ☹️🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏💔
Effing bs_____strds ❤
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“I’ve never heard of any homes for unmarried fathers.”
that is exactly what I think over and over......singles mothers are punished, but single fathers - or married fathers who abuse young girls never will face that same way then the unmarried mothers do
Because there are none
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Sorry to say but I think it's because they don't deliver any "merchandise".
Nuns are some of the most evil minded and sociopathic women that are on this earth breathing the same air as us. When they leave convents they are like tigers out of a cage, alcoholism, drug abuse and addiction,they become sexually active worse than prostitutes get sexually diseases spread them such as Hepatitis C, gonorreah,syphalis and so on. They destroyed other people in the church and out of the church. This subject has happened to someone in our family and she was an ex nun called a bride of Christ, this person’s life was completely destroyed, yes you can say it takes two to tango, in this case she knew about her sexual disease and didn’t care who she destroyed. I did have a chance to ask her why would you do this to another human being her answer to me was I missed out a lot when I did time in the convent, it’s my life and I will do what pleases me. I told anyone who sleeps with the devil will burn in hell. I cannot write the words down to what I said to her. Every time I see articles like this What thousands of years created this church to become. The innocent and persons who cannot have a voice in this church never had a leg to stand on. The devil lives off the hog here always has.
How many of these young women were attacked and then shamed into this nightmare? Yet again the men getting away with it. Total double standards.
Of course the men are protected, the whole catholic church is run by men. How many of these women were victims of priest rapes.
and is still today including abortion
Men getting away with what? It takes 2 to make a baby.
Yes, it takes two to have a baby, so why only the mothers were punished ?
@@brendastephens5459 Punished? Where were their families? Their mothers? Oh wait they were abandoning/punishing them too, to the state to look after.
Nous sommes Belges, mes parents sont nés en 1914 et 1916 et moi en 1947. Je n'ai jamais entendu cette expression "enfant de la honte" on disait "enfant de l'amour". Habitant la campagne, nous connaissions ces enfants qui étaient automatiquement adopté par l'homme qui épousait la mère et sans problèmes, il y avait aussi des enfants qui n'étaient pas du mari et cela ne choquait non plus personne, on disait "un enfant est à celui qui l'élève". Les religions ont toujours créé des problèmes là où il n'y en avait pas.
تعال للعراق وشاهد المأسي الحقيقية والظلم والرعب والقتل
@@Al-mj2fw wszystkie religie niosą okrucieństwo, wyzysk i krzywdę
Very true@@dorotaxxx9442
The Tuam claims are largely false seeking to attack the Catholic Church. The mass grave is a false claim -- just like the false claims relating to mass graves in Canada at residential schools. The sisters cared for the young women and children who were shunned by their families and in too many cases the young women were victims of incest or other abuse. A historian researched the archival records relating to this facility and the inspectors who conducted unannounced inspections found the facilities well run, clean and with the young women well cared for and in good spirits. Watch the interview by Gemma O'Doherty (an award winning Irish investigative journalist) of this historian who sets the record straight.
When pregnant love and support are needed. These poor women and their children. God bless them.
The Catholic Church has always had problems concerning abuse.
Wat een schorem, wat een monsters. Mijn kind kwam door een verkrachting. Hij moest ook naar een kindertehuis. Maar erg goed daar Elke dag kwam ik daar en door mijn wisseldiensten op verschillende tijden. Gelukkig maar twee jaar en daarna een topper als vader gekregen en een heerlijke liefdevolle man nu 🥰❤️🥰
Merci à tous pour ce reportage,ne jamais oublier tous ces enfants qui sont enterrés et à qui ont doit une sépulture .❤
After being a Catholic all my life, I finally left and changed to just being a regular christian for the sake of the family I am creating. Best decision I've ever made
Good for you Sheila and for your family.
Same here, you can always have the relationship without going to a church. But the problem is now lots of our ‘ churches ‘ are being taken over for Mosques.
@@carolgrace6573ah heres the hit squad from the legion of mary
You believe in yourself. You are decision.
I am catholic and early in life read about some horrific things about the religion I was raised.. I want to say that it makes me think the way I saw later religious people in general. This includes muslim and jewish as well they all have a set of individuals that are so evilished that makes you want to puke. It brakes my heart to see that most of the prominent figures of each of this religions have skeletons on their history bringing me to conclude again that there is nothing better to love God thru you re heart an not some freaking human being who claims to be some Gods rep to guide you. Shame on all those leaders that caused pain in the human race, period.
My Daughter 21 weeks gave birth to Twin Boys, they were still born. Even though they were in heaven, I had them baptized.
They were given names Aiden and Braiden, had a service. God Bless! Now 12 years later she has 2 Daughters 8 and 3yr.old She is high risk! I Thank God every day for them!❤
@susanlivingston743. And every day she remembers those sweet sons and how old they would be now and what they might be like.❤️😢
I don't understand what this comment has to do with how women were raped and blamed for it, and imprisoned to "pay" for their "crime." Children were taken and sold to America by the church, resulting in psychological trauma. I feel for your daughter but I don't understand what it has to do with this. Enlighten me.
Way to make it about you, Livingston. This is a story about the hideous treatment of girls who were raped and the treatment of their poor children. Do try to stay on track.
She's saying with baptism, they are in heaven , absolved of sin, well it's another catholic guilt thing....
The Magdalene Sisters (2002), d’emblée, dès les premières images, je repense à ce film que j’étais allée voir à sa sortie. Je me revois…je suis sortie du cinéma bouleversée…je ne m’attendais pas à voir ces horreurs. Ce film a eu le Lion d’Or à Venise ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️Un prix, ô combien, mérité.🥀🇫🇷 21.4.2024
The Tuam claims are largely false seeking to attack the Catholic Church. The mass grave is a false claim -- just like the false claims relating to mass graves in Canada at residential schools. The sisters cared for the young women and children who were shunned by their families and in too many cases the young women were victims of incest or other abuse. A historian researched the archival records relating to this facility and the inspectors who conducted unannounced inspections found the facilities well run, clean and with the young women well cared for and in good spirits. Watch the interview by Gemma O'Doherty (an award winning Irish investigative journalist) of this historian who sets the record straight.
I lived in a convent from age 8 - 11 yrs. Some of the nuns were violent. I remember seeing a boy in the freezing cold with short trousers being thrashed on the thighs with a cane just out of the blue. Another one we had to watch being leathered by a heavy strap on his back for running away. They taught us about Mary, the saints, the rosary, communion but hardly nothing about Christ and certainly no scripture. I was given a scapula and was told if I wore it all my life I would go to heaven. I didn't know Jesus then. It was just religion religion relgion and superstition. Fortunately I came to Christ at aged 27 yrs and I was saved from the fear of Catholicism. Jesus is wonderful and has healed me from my childhood. I thank God for my life now and know that I belong to Him.
Nuns 🤮🤮🤮
Praise God for you!❤
I am so sorry. Christ heals our ills and I am glad you found the real Savior. God Bless you. "Suffer the little children to come unto me."
Just 3 years? Well I went to Catholic school too, for 10 years and never saw any of what you say you did. Got the best education ever. I *don't* believe you never learned about Jesus. That was the first thing I learned in grade 1. Did you not learn any cathechism either? We were also taught self discipline and to read and write in 2 languages. You needed 60% to pass. Then went to public school to grade 13 where you only needed 50% to pass. And they sure as hell never even prayed or talked about Jesus there.
Same ill treatment in not religious private or public schools those days.Even your parents and your family were really harsh!
I cant imagine if my baby was torn from my arms. My baby was born out of wedlock. So many beautiful babies abused and hurt for existing.
Yes.😞😢
2:33 2:34
I also had a child out of wedlock at the age of 18 then had another at 20 to the same father no way would I give them up for adoption.
These poor girls were robbed of there babies 👶 😢😢😢
Why blame others though take responsibility for your actions and the consequences it's not everyone else's fault
@@cathycupcake6849 Who said otherwise?
Sad the men that got those poor girls pregnant were never punished
Males seduce, have their way and then disappear like mice when a light comes on, leaving evidence of the damage they do.
Actually, the people really responsible were those who created a society where people were demonised. It's no different really than the people who looked the other way when jews were demonised in Hitler's Germany and in many countries besides. Absolutely true that fathers should be there for the upbringing of children they've created - that's morally right - but none of these people were criminals. They were just human. It's the cruel system, promoted by religious " fascists " and swallowed up by a brainwashed society that are to blame for how these mothers were treated and the evil EVIL treatment meted out to children who were as innocent as any child is. To think that a government of a country which had fought for its independence not that long before ( and loved to sing songs of how they fought against cruelty ) should uphold this evil and a church - supposedly there to lead people to God - would set the stage for what was at the back of it is just ghastly. I wonder what Jesus would say about it all. I hope that the truth these surviving people are asking for does come to light in their lifetimes. God bless all those affected and forgive all those responsible.
Patriarchy puts all responsibility on women pretty much. The old 'virgin/whore' syndrome, still alive in many parts of the world.
I would have thought the idea should be *not punishing* 🤔
Oh don't believe it ! They indeed are being punished and in a far far worse place and way we can't even imagine ! Forever !
Imagine taking the time to write a report stating that a child in your orphanage was both emaciated AND had a voracious appetite instead of just feeding the child more! Neglect. Cruel neglect.
And the order was being PAID by the Irish nation! The funds were not being taken from "holy, mother church" but the latter shamelessly took the money to its own nefarious uses: new vestments, church buildings, priests' pensions, contributions to Peter's Pence?
The Catholic Church has NO moral authority any longer and I left it over 36 years ago.
Tuam was a total lie, check of proper historians for the truth!
Shame, shame shame. No one would help these women. Not their family, not their neighbors, not the government. The only place available to them was this evil church. Victoms of an ignorant, brutal , merciless people. The shame is not on the mothers or children it is on Ireland and the church both of whom get off scot free
Only on earth did they get off scot free, after they die God deals with them, eternally.
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Thank goodness we now accept out of wedlock babies or they can get an abortion.
Very nice Daniel
Fully agree.
The treatment of women breaks my heart. How many of these women have these children with no consent of their own, if you know what I mean. And yet the men continue on with their favored stature of honorable men and the women shamed. It’s disgraceful. And these nuns should be named even if they are no longer alive.
Show us the bones you liers
Love in the universe to all the babies from Tuam 💓💕
Saw this before...great (while difficult to watch) documentary.
The memorial plaque is beautiful. 💜💜💜💜💜💜
It's so 💔 to learn how dysfunctional, harmful, contradicting, very judgmental, cruel, cold, misleading of the real truth of the True Gospel. I am so grateful that I left the Catholic Church. Peace be with us all 🙏. "Isa"
Thank goodness I escaped from Bishop Moors School near Liverpool at aged 14 and I escaped to live 'wild' on the streets for nearly a year before escaping to the sea! At fourteen I became an atheist and I've never looked back!
Please don't blame God. The good Lord loves you unconditionally, and the hurt caused to all children and young women, is the same hurt suffered by God in heaven. Those who caused all this pain have been dealt with by God.
Beverly, we're so sorry for what you suffered. Your/our Saviour Yeshua took on our Sin's thus you not needing to be a Atheist. There is much worth in believing in Yeshua our Saviour. No one is perfect & someday I pray you shall heed the Holy Spirit's nudging & begin your journey back to HIS loving embrace via the Gospel. Hang in there. Peace be with us all 🙏. Isa
Seriously guys... this poor dude is talking about his experience and suffering at the hands of followers of your god/prophet, yet you still have the audacity to try to make it about your god and trying to shill for him with some emotional drivel like that's what matters right now... That's awfully inappropriate and tone deaf behavior to be honest. I'll never understand why some religious people can be so shameless at times...
It's a shame yeshua didn't save the children from the evil Catholic church when they were pure, blameless, innocent babies. @FemiNelson-sb1em
@@bernadettekavanagh9984 Beverly has the right to feel the way she does, you have no control in who believes in you're so called God.🤔🙄🙄🙄
I'm shocked !
I've always identified with the Irish people, even if I'm from Eastern Europe, but the silence and indifference of the authorities in Ireland really pissed me off!!! how, how to treat such atrocities with such indifference??? hundreds of children can say killed, and by whom??? by the church! that organization that preaches mercy, love and help to the poor. I only hope that the Divinity will punish them if the civil authorities look at these crimes with such indifference.
Shame Ireland, shame!
Agreed! And what about the nuns who lied, sinned, who did these horrible crimes in secret; essentially murdered these babies/children .. they are no doubt gone now, passed away, and will never take accountability or be held responsible for what they did to these beautiful little children. All of these babies are safe now in the arms of Jesus, but I shutter to think where the nuns have gone. Maybe some have repented of their sins, asked the Lord for forgiveness .. only God knows, and He is our Judge. My heart goes out to all the Moms who lost their precious babies. Shame on the authorities in Ireland who did nothing to bring justice for all the little ones gone too soon at the hand of these monsters who used the Name of God to do their disgusting, evil deeds. 🙏💜
@@purpleandred7 😪😪😪😪🙏🙏🙏🙏
Nuns are just people who are either good or bad, liars, cheats, paedos or decent who hide behind Bad "Habits" 😈@@purpleandred7 a nun hit on me when I had my son at a nasty catholic school, where the priest was PISSED on whiskey ( bad conscience maybe) by 8.30 am Catholicism is another ism like alcoholism, JUST BAD ALL ROUND😈
Trouble is, they have this indifferent attitude unwilling to do anything else but leave well alone and hope all forget, those nuns and authorities were ,are ,have been throughout Time, worshipped Lucifer nameing Lucifer as father of jesus, even in vaticn, those babies would not be missed, were sacrificed, exhumation of the site, would prove this and if that church helped the poor, why then is vatican dripping in gold holding wealth beyond measure while pitched outside vatican, in tents starving, while little boys and girls are rapped by their priests, antichristos, blasphemers, idolatrous,fornicators, satanic pope already Admitted it, still nothing done, because the authortes are still SATANISTS , behind closed doors, in the dark, secret hidden society,
Don't blame the Irish people. Blame the hypocrisy of the Catholic church.
there is a tons of documentaries about this irish children. very sad..
What's the bet the reason they don't want to excavate is because a lot more than 795 children are buried there?
The church...
I totally agree with you I think religion as a whole is horrific.
Oh I feel naieve. That never occurred to me. Sadly, probably.
@@elizabethmcgrath6198 liar
guaranteed, and the fact that it will be discovered how they died! That is what they are afraid of.
Every Baby is created by GOD..and no child should be made to feel shame because of their existence.
I believe every child is created through fertilization by sperm of ovum (with or without medical assistance) and no child should be made to feel shame because of their existence.
None of us asked to be created or born.
Ya know first and foremost, no woman should be treated like trash. This is why abortion should be legal.
Every baby is created by an egg and sperm making contact.
@@ixchelsmith3025 Of course no woman should be treated like trash..but neither should and unborn baby. AGAIN GOD creates the baby ...body and soul. That body and soul is created for. a purpose and destiny..that only GOD knows. GOD created man and woman..it is sheer audacity to think that man and woman CREATES a human being...without the POWER of GOD. Think carefully..because those that condone and have abortions..will face GOD one day...and answer to HIM.
@@ixchelsmith3025 GOD creates life..just as HE has done for all of us. These children who are aborted..had a purpose in this world that GOD created. THEM for. Of course no woman should be treated like trash..just as no conceived baby should be treated like trash. Cuts both ways.
Oh God again, and the people who think
They know exactly what "he" wants us to
Do. Maybe "God" wanted "his" "loving"
Servants the nuns, the "brides" of "Christ" to take care of the pregnant women, help them give birth, help THEM
Become mothers instead of ripping their babies out, taking them away and then selling them to "good catholic families " Do you really think your "God"
Is that cruel? There's not two sides to
A baby mill.
And the males that got them pregnant???? Poor females
It's so freaking backwards. It's still happening.
@@lasantisima6446 absolutely. Men get away with it because females are the one's that get pregnant. So unfair
They consented to open their legs out of passion ? It was not all on the mans side .
Don't be an absurd feminist! some women had an affair that resulted in them becoming pregnant, no one should be punished, neither man nor woman, especially those innocent children.
And let's not forget one thing! who are those people who created those crimes, those pains??? aren't all the women nuns from that institution?
I, as a man, cannot conceive those crimes, how could some beings who can be mothers conceive them then?
Too bad! May God be with us all and protect us from such things in the future
The men were not sent to work houses.the men should be punished
In the 70's, my girlfriend attended a Catholic Convent for unwed teens & all of these girls were drnied Lamaz. That was horrible 😢. Peace be with us all 🙏. "Isa"
that's because the poor girls had to suffer for their sins!, barbaric!!!!
Absolutely horrible 😢
@@7Sandiewell yes suffering is part of our life here on earth, you obviously aren't a practising Catholic. It's only takes 1 sin to get you into hell! That's why Catholics have the wonderful sacrament of confession! Along with many other sacraments!
One thing that amazes me,all the women who went through that hell,and they seem so strong. I suppose you'd have to be tough to make it out alive.
The tuam story was a total lie! No evidence exists.
HOW SAD! this really touched my heart, not only for the children but all the girls..... 😭
Such a beautiful plaque...
Touching...truthful and factual...
A fitting testament for a most tragic tale...
The hands not quite touching...
What appears to be a gap is indeed a void...
The suffering within such an empty space is heart wrenching...
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My Mam used to wake up screaming from the nuns when she was a child. They cut off her hair aswell. Not nice.
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What made these nuns so horrible Bitter and twisted, Maybe they were abused as children or made become nuns which wasn't unusual years ago, some parents thought it was great to have a nun or a priest in the family,
That's not true!
@@germ7930 You think you know more about this person's mother than he does?
Heartbreaking. Huge credit and thanks to those who have worked so hard to bring this to light. Above all else I would say Dev bears a great deal of blame for this situation arising. The Church was given too great a role in the new state formed a century ago. Dev spent his time fulminating against the Treaty and obsessing on rubbish like the Oath. A great pity he did not spend more time enquiring into how the poorest and most vulnerable of his people were living.
Churches are about worship, mine is a personal relationship in which I try to follow him.
Blessings to all.
It's been years since this has come to light.What has been done about it
Absolutely nothing, the files were probably thrown into a filing cabinet or burnt , The priests were dirty ole men and the nuns were vicious bullies and murders, I personally think they should be named and shamed
The subtitles are absolutely horrible... 💯 why even have them if they're not done correctly?
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You tubes language translation is diabolical
UA-cam was taken over by India go figure 😂😂😂
very true, but they are optional. disable them by clicking on the icon in the lower right corner of the screen.
They are very odd. More like a paraphrase. It’s doing weird things to my brain. I thought they were subtitles already embedded in the video, but they seem to be close captioned. Thankfully I turned them off.
That letter from The Communications Clinic chair of the Sisters of Bon Secours organization really tells of the current attitude of that organization. What a snarky gas-lit response.
I am in my 60s. I just lost my mama in January. She knew me my whole life, and I had known her my whole life-up to that sad day. I cannot imagine not knowing my mama for all that time.
This is so sad. The consequences of mother-child separation are far reaching.
Keep fighting.
Très intéressant mais si triste documentaire de France Télévisions.
Merci à Catherine Corless pour son opiniâtreté, ce qu'elle fait est admirable.
Dieu bénisse tous ces enfants et leurs Mamans.
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Exceptional. Thank you for making this and showing it here.
Que pena siento por esos niños y madres.😢😢❤
It is terrible to tear young babies from their mothers arms I think you lost your sole through it, the longing will be like
cancer they could have look after the mother as well as the baby and raise them together, but there are too many other
people who like to make rules and ruin other peoples lives through it.
Frustrated women who have turned bitter and took it out on these poor women and babes,no such thing as born in sin ,😢ridiculous,
Reminds me of the sadistic nuns I dealt with in Catholic school as a child. They wielded their rulers with great anger and for the least problem.
I had wonderful nuns teaching me, by the way tuam is a lie, no evidence at all, check out proper historians for the truth
Why isn’t the church made to pay for this.
The best way it's paying is by losing following, tbh. There's nothing that can be done to amend the damage done to the mothers and children who went through this.
And the Church even flew to other countries to “rescue” pregnant girls and women and bring them back to Ireland for punishment! How disgusting and completely uncalled for.
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And the one in this documentary was 18. I don’t know what the year of majority was in the early 1970s, so maybe legally she was underage.
Doesn’t change things though.
They did not, that was total lies, also tuam was a lie, it was said to turn people against the church in order to bring in ab@rtion to ireland bynthe irish government and it worked. No evidence at all in tuam, check out proper historians on this please!
Society always punishes the woman.. one way or another.
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And without us nobody would exist 😡
@@PSeitter Yeah.
True but punishes poor men too. Just think of war. Really society punishes the poor.
@@Candlewick14 Yes.😞😞😞
My mother worked in them magdaline laundries I was adopted and met her when I was in my 20ts. Her life was awfull in care of the nuns
I believe the Nuns were miserable, unhappy, frustrated women.
These “Laundries” were all over Ireland, so there must be thousands of babies buried like this. Why is only Tuam talked about?
I don't think this place was a magdeline laundry
The Tuam story speaks volumes for all the institutions.
This is just an example. If they reported on every site where this occurred, video would have been thousands of hours long!
Because other 'denominations' would be exposed.
All of this was government sanctioned and supported.
Without the gov, it couldn't have been done.
Tuam was a lie, no evidence at all! Listen to proper historians about tuam etc.,
What a horror and tragedy. All for the sake of so called morality. The taking and selling of children and the money made by taking one yourself. What shame, what grief these little ones endured. If surviving an infancy without their mothers milk and the special one on one care she'd have given them. Only to face years in an institutional setting of unloving care and brutality by the tired nuns. What calling is this? What scripture was referenced? To justify the stealing of a child born out of wedlock or the shaming of them? Was Jesus taken from Mary or shamed for her unmarried pregnancy? What was put away back then that Joseph considered, then was faced with an Angel himself? And what of these little ones of His, our Father in Heaven, are not these little ones His as well?
No matter one's beliefs, children are totally innocent no matter what.
You can't be Christ Like & condemn a child, the two don't mix.
This is akin to Georgia Tann's cruelties, in TN, of which she was cruel...."Stolen Babies", around mid last century.
My cousin was one of those stolen babies......my late abused brother & I were in the Catholic run orphanage in Ft Wayne, IN.
Too many 'foster care' really don't care 💔.....
Oh you'd be surprised about what some "Christians" say about children, even newborns!!🤮🤮🤮🤬 Sorry for what you went through. May you heal and find peace and love.🙏❤️
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My racist religious fanatical relatives, some pedophiles like my father, were even worse.
I'm writing about it online now.
Strah me i komentarisati, zašta su ljudi sposobni ,koliko zločina je činjeno i čini sse u ime BOGA. Koliko su im isprani mozgovi i dalje im ispiraju . BOG je stvorio ŽIVOT, NE VERE 🙏🙏🙏🙏
There is a Jack Taylor episode that deals with this subject in the show his mother was in one of these places. I don't remember if his mom was pregnant or there for some other reason? The episode is good worth watching!
It seems the women's families are very much to blame. I would assume the nuns had no support from anyone. Very sad story. kd
Yes why not defend their pregnant daughters.
Actually they had state support but it wasn't used properly. This in fact makes it even worse because they knew how bad the conditions were. People worried so much about what the neighbours would think etc. Things are very different nowadays and not before time. Also a lot of these "homes" made money on the backs of the poor unfortunate people who lived in them
@donalddelano3948, the families were bound by the Roman Catholic Church, Papal law, doctrines and fear. If you need further truth, do your own research. Ireland was another planet, in a galaxy of disturbed belief in a god of retribution. Yes I'm Irish and a recovering Catholic.
@@iamahorsenut7541because in many societies, even today, an unwed female brings shame to the families. A baby is a blessing to me, and they are the innocent that suffer for choices others make on their behalf, and behind almost every shame these people feel, there's religious fanatics beliefs, that they are offending God. This is so wrong. The Catholic church condemns the most, but they have and still have committed the worse sins.
How can a baby be a sin for being born? It has no control and no choice in the matter.
I was baptized within hours of my birth by my father. He wanted to take no chances even though infant mortality in the US circa 1979 was negligible.
It wqs done officially later as is the custom.
I am not baptised and thank my parents so much for that. I want no connection whatsoever the cancerous evil that is religion.
Acts 2 verse 38... repent and be baptized
Life is so damn hard. I just do not understand why society creates these extra hoops and standards that are not necessary, but which just burden and potentially destroy lives already struggling.
There will always be those who choose the abuse of power, in place of compassion and God's love, in a number of cases many of the nuns and priests were put there as part of the idea that every family had to give over either a son or daughter to the so-called church, in order to find favour with the authorities of the 'Church ', whether those children wanted to or not. Many were forced or yet again, there's shame on the family, causing such bitterness all round.
Religion is all about power, misogyny, sex, paedophilia and money. Cults!
@@bernadettekavanagh9984😮💨😮💨😮💨
@@bernadettekavanagh9984This is very important information you gave. Thank you.
How can 800 babies just disappear it’s disgraceful.
Over 36 years, 22 per year.
@@annetoronto5474 all lies
God has them all. They are no longer lost.
@@declancooney1029Of course.....,....
Tuam was a lie, no evidence at all. The babies were buried properly. Check out proper historians about the truth of tuam!
My mom , who I don't know as a person. The last time I saw her she said she was sick but better now. She lived by Catholic rule. She never aborted, well as far as I know. She would get pregnant but left a child at the hospital. Lost my brother to her mother for neglect, I came even though she tried to kill her children. I had a twin that died but I came early with her and spent time in the hospital until I was healthy enough to leave. A few months . Born early with pneumonia. I don't tell this for sadness just another story . My mom tried to off me after I came home. She started a fire and left . But I can not tell you how many times in my early childhood people would just show up for no reason and rescue me. She did not marry my father so the church would not baptise me but my parents... one or both found a priest that did. I tell this because of what a stronghold the church had on my drunken parents. And its always been a weird mix of thinking. I think the call it cognitive dissonance. I was with my mon until I was 7 often left alone, hungry and abuse of sorts. But I went tp parochial school and when the system got me I could not go to any family but a Catholic family. This meant an aunt who wanted me to live with her was not able to take me in , I ended up in abusive foster homes and was not welcome there . I was extra income. The church played a big role and the shame was my ground..shame and quilt. While I have faith in Christ and guidance I really was disappointed by the church and left in my heart. I recall the emphasis of being a virgin. Of my lack for worth is I was not so since I could walk I was condemned after being abused. At 7 I felt like a worthless sinner, condemned for life. The church has done so much harm to the world. I did meet very nice nuns and feared some of the priests and nuns . . all in USA by the way.
No child, ever, is "illegitimate." But, I think that many corrupt people who abused women, their children, and deprived them of marriage and family -- the abusers -- are illegitimate.
🤔🤔🤔 Very possible.😔
Really Sad.
Sad story but whoever did the subtitles for this was not true to the words of the speakers
google translate .....terrible AI😢
you can disable them...
Thanks Mr. Musk from Brazil
Brazil have opened an investigation into Musk.
Thank you President Lula.
Such a lunatic!
I am pretty sure there are a lot of places like this on the surface of the planet unfortunately, this is scarie really and so shameful
* scary
@@cherylween4973 I a not an English speaker, I do my best
En cielo y tierra no hay nada oculto
shame is one of the most painful things a human can feel. in my family they worked a lot with shame too, its horrible. but this here must be uncompareble
I remember this news story, I remeber being in ireland at the time, I even remember the room I was in. The story still hurts to this day. It hurts to think that the country I love so much and take so much pride in being a citizen of, even the county I lived in could do such a thing and be to scared, to fearful of their own cowadice to fess up to it.
Thank you ❣️👍
This is what happens when man thinks he knows what God wants and thinks it brings nothing but sorrow and pain to the living.
Ο😮😮😮 Ο Ιησούς Χριστός μας αναφέρει μάθετε την αλήθεια και η αλήθεια μας θα μας ελευθερώσει ❤
I agree with you 💯 since I'm against abuse towards women and children and also I'm a woman with rights too ❤😢
Sadly this is not the only institution that committed such crimes. Convents of Nuns, sadly did the exact same to their unwanted bebe's 😢. Peace be with us all 🙏. "Isa"
Lies, tuam was a total lie, no evidence at all!
que tous ces enfants reposent en PAIX
Yes indeed. The Catholic Church in Ireland has a very dark history. How could ‘religious’ people be so cruel and mean to both
the mothers & children; mothers who may have been abused or ignorant about the facts of life and children who were innocent
of any wrongdoing. The Church was all powerful and there was a great deal of fear, that was part of it. Let’s face it many, many
of the perpetrators were not Christian in their demeanour and behaviour. Nothing ‘Christ like’ about these creatures. I hope
Ireland learns from this and puts this Catholic Church in its place and faces up loud & clear to wrongdoing.
Tuam was a total lie, no evidence at all. I love my Catholic faith its the one true faith, no salvation outside of it!
@@germ7930
Well, each to his own. You are entitled to believe what you will and comment as you wish. From my side of the fence, think about
this …. Spanish Inquisition, Magdalene Laundries, Priests & Nuns abusing children (Industrial Schools ) Mother & baby Homes
with babies being sold for Adoption. Say what you like but DON’T tell me there’s no truth in any of it. In recent years Ireland
has been scandalised by the Clergy who once had a stranglehold on the population.
Where are the mothers buried?
Tuam was a total lie, no evidence at all!
bravo à tous ces gens qui ont permis de découvrir toutes ces horreurs !
Not just in Ireland, but on every continent. Reparations?
🤡I'm OwEd ReEEEpArATioNs...No one owes you shite. We learn from the mistakes of the past and move on.
Go beg somewhere else
When do we ever learn from the past? Money is the only think big biz, big gov, and big institutions learn anything from.
@@eddieram435we haven’t learned shit lol.
What a dumb comment, will that change anything?Water under the bridge.whats done is over.
Heart brealking. All because of sheer ignorance. I hope these people find peace for their hearts.
ignorance? nah. Fanatisism and misogyny.
Not ignorance! Indoctrination, brainwashing from the most powerful, brutal organisation in the country. To oppose them would be to pout your 'soul in mortal danger', a absolute load of bollocks, but fear means control, covid taught the whole world about that!
My father always said, no child of mine will be baptized Catholic. God doesn’t want 10 percent of a fathers income when he is struggling to feed his children. 🤷♀️
That's the mormon way.
Well in order to be saved one must be baptised into the Catholic faith and by the way tuam was a total lie, there is no evidence! All the babies were buried properly. It was used against the Catholic Church to bring in ab@rtion into ireland and it worked.
In belgium there was Zelem Where after the closure by the police the dough up over 150 childrens body's The orphanage was ruled by Nuns .
Again...😞😔🙏❤️
Yes, the Church sold 30,000 Flemish babies. They 'apologized'. How kind of them.
The irony of it too that Mary gave birth to Jesus out of wedlock!! Astonishes me that they could not see that link. They should have been celebrating these children.
Jesus was not born out of wedlock. The Bible tells us that when Mary told him what had happened, Joseph quietly married her, long before the birth. The Bible also tells us that Mary and Joseph went on to have other children, half brothers and sisters to Jesus.
@@verenamaharajah6082Mary got pregnant out of wedlock.
Was it Joseph or someone else we dont know.
Wake up from believing in fairy tales and unicorns.
It was through the Holy Spirit that Mary came to be Jesus's mother, AND she remained a Virgin throughout her life on earth. That is why She is referred to as The Blessed Virgin Mary, and why we revere Her.
@@bernadettekavanagh9984So, not with her husband.
You need Jesus
Oh my God . 😢 so shocking . incomprehensible so incomprehensible and painful that I can't express it 😢👃 so heartless. 🤬 with God's blessing to all children. greetings from Belgium
Thank you all ways remember What is hidden will come to Light God Bless you .
Heart breaking.
I want uo know how the catholic church behaved throughout europe. In Scotland its the same story as Irelabd. But i fountbthibonly happened in Irelan and Scotland?
they did same through out the world
Catolic church did this all over the vourld
Since I visited a mass grave in County kildare, it was was near the lakes in Naas where I lived and that was were I brought my children I haven't been able to go to Mass😮❣️💖💕🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏😇😔😕
Que tristeza lo que sufrieron aquellas madres y sus bebés...ya es hora que terminen con este sufrimiento 😢
I was born in a mother and baby home, taken to American at the age of 3 months. . .
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I hope you had a happy childhood and were able to find your mother again.
😔🙏❤️
Sineas O'Connor was right, nodoby believed her.
How can anyone harm a sweet innocent child?
😢 pauvres enfants
Pauvres mères
Où est la compassion l’amour et le pardon dans ces maisons du christ!
C’est horrible !
Pauvres petites âmes
Comment ne pas réagir devant ces monstruosités !
Paix à toutes ces souffrances par la pose de cette stèle par la reconnaissance et la bénédiction de tous ces petits anges !✨
This happened in every country where Catholics ran schools. In Canada the rcs operated residential schools. It has been reported that 8000 kids have died in these schools and that old fossil in rome refuses to apologize for thecrimes they have commited.
Only Catholic schools?
God is dealing with them.
Irish woman made to suffer. Not the men? Seems to me ,Ireland has a cruel culture. The church controlled the Irish. The nuns were cruel. The Irish love their cruelty.
it is not the Irish - it is the Catholic Church.
❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 happy Mother's Day
The best documentary.
This documentary doesn’t address key questions - how many girls were there giving birth? I imagine many were in poor health to begin with and 800 over 40 years is 800 chikdren who died over 480 months or under 2 a month - I don’t know how uncommon that would be esp if there were large numbers of poor malnourished women giving birth.
And how many were young, powerless, poor...not having created a situation but still being punished for it.
The difference is they were DELIBERATELY malnourished and refused medical treatment.
If it was uncommon and the statistics were the same as or better than the average it would hardly be a scandal.
How were the girls and women and children malnourished if they were in the care of the church? Why were the babies and childrens bodies buried without the blessing and proper funeral rights of the church, improper records? Why were bodies found dumped in the old septic tanks? Does this sound at all explicable to you? Do not make excuses or try to gloss over what happened...there or anywhere else in the world, in history and today, to girls, women, babies and children when they get pregnant and are abandoned and their babies and children punished and abused.
Every sect had these stories.
No
If so, could you provide the reports, articles, or documentaries?
É chocante e cruel o que fizeram com essas meninas.
Vídeo excelente que nos esclarece os fatos como realmente aconteceu.
Eu já vi filmes sobre o assunto e já foi triste de ver.
Parabéns pelo documentário.❤❤❤❤