I heard that one of the reasons Giacomini stopped singing at the Met was because he didn't want to be second cast to Domingo's light Otello. When you hear this you can understand why. Domingo could only dream of sounding like this in this role.
I am biased against Domingo because to my ear he lacks squillo, has no effective top and has a voice that is not capable of great volume. He began early on as a much more lyrical tenor and probably should have avoided the dramatic and spinto roles.
Truthismaster I agree about Domingo. Problem with Giaco. was inconsistency-stupendous one night and not in voice the next. Also, as an actor he was 0-.
There are so many stories about why one singer does this or that. I saw part of Otello as sung by Domingo. He was hardly "light." The last scene was just heartbreaking, especially when he realized Desdemona was innocent. If his name was other than Domingo no one would tell such stories. For shame.
I was lucky enough to work with Giacomini back in '96, at Covent Garden, in Turandot. I was singing the minor role of the Mandarin and on the 1st day of rehearsals we had a music run-through in a small studio room. I will never forget the sheer size and volume of Giacomini's voice; he had so much 'blade' (focus) in his voice it was almost unbearable to behold in a small space. I have worked with many great voices since, but none have left me feeling quite as awe struck as he did. An unbelievably powerful instrment.
Thanks much for sharing your most enviable experience! In your view as a professional (rather than just an enthusiast such as I), how does Giacomini compare to Del Monaco?
and one other question, my father was tenor and choirus master with the Dutch Groot Omroepkoor, and the got a grammy for Faure, as his son (tenor too) I heard a lot of tenors like Gedda, Bergonzi, Domingo, Carreras, James King, Alagna and a lot of Russians under Gergiev, but why Giacomini was never that famous???
Giacomini enjoyed a stellar career in all the major houses but somehow didn't get all the publicity.. Pavarotti and Domingo and Carreras admired him greatly.
Concerning Mr. Giacomini. Once I found myself being covering him in La Forza del Destino; at that point I have never heard him but knew of him. When the reheatrsal began and he opened his first line: 'Ah per sempre' I though 'WHAT THE HELL AM I DOING HERE'. If this man have to stop in the middle of a perdormance and I have to jump in, the audience will kill me. Thanks God he never cancel.
Tenor drowned out baritone here and he’s much older than Milnes What a shame he didn’t get the adulation he deserved I never knew of him till recently but in my opinion Giacomo has and had one of the greatest Tenor voices of all time and nobody today can hold a candle to him NOBODY !
@@falkfink It's opera singing, not opera acting. I'll take great vocal acting over great stage acting any day. I'm there for Merli and Del Monaco, not Olivier.
@@falkfink your job as a singer does not mean you are truly a singer. It simply is that your muse has been feeding you. To someone like you, Caruso asked to close his or her eyes to be able to appreciate beautiful singing.
I think Milnes is very gracious here. At the conclusion he seemed genuinely amazed at Giacomini's singing, and besides the kiss on the cheek if you notice he pushes him forward in the bow.
I listened Giacomini live 4 times; two of them here in Padua in concert at the Verdi Theater. I too do keep a bright memory of the several great qualities of his singing, but inevitably the more vivid one is the incredible strength of his voice. The last note of "Cielo e mare", the si bemolle "Ah vien...!" was a crescendo of inexhaustible, unforgettable power. Grande maestro, quando mai riascolterò una voce come la tua.
This days, who sings like DelMonaco and Giacomini sounds unnatural, screamy not beautiful while the nasal,crooners, leggero, piccolo, pushing, microphone dependent opera singers rule today. I won't drop any names tired of their fans get butt hurt.
In my opinion, this is one of the best versions of this beautiful, powerful duet. You have Giacomini, who was one of the best dramatic tenors ever and Milnes who was a fantastic baritone. How many baritones are out there that can sing high notes and sostenuto like Milnes. Bravissimi!!!
Giacomini es una trompeta del cielo, Milnes con su preciosa y potente voz todo lo hace hermoso, qué extraordinarias voces de estos dos inmensos, inmensos, inmensos artistas!
I heard Giacomini in Dallas in the late 70's/ early 80's. I think I heard him in Forza and it was amazing. Pure, virile sound. None of this psuedo-stuff that is churned out these days masquerading as big time throats. Corelli and Giacomini were 18 wheelers in a parking lot full of Chevy Novas. In my next life, if God will not let me sound like Corelli, then I will insist on Giacomini.
Mr Giacomini, as they say "RESPECT!" I remember my mother talking about a fanciulla he did at covent garden. I remember the tone of her voice as she described him. It was one of awe. I can now see why. Has to be the best concert version of this duet i have ever heard! AMAZING!
every time i bring a FAZZOLETTO when i have a cold, i could not help to start singing EEEE IL FAZZOLETTO CHIO LE DIEDI PEGNO PRIMO D'AMORRRRRRRRRRRRR and i feel so gooddddd!!! and i think to Giuseppe and i feel a little of his voice inside me
I was standing on stage quite close to him in his 1977 "Norma" performances at the Wiener Staatsoper. The Norma was Molnar-Talajic. I remember his voice cutting through my head like a knife, and hearing it come back to us on the stage. He was not a big man, but his voice sounded like it, and it was produced without any visible tension. Thinking about the tenors I heard at the Staatsoper from the period 1974-78, I'd say his squillo was unmatched.
It's not that Milnes had a small voice...It's just that Giacomini's tenor is HUGE! I don't think Milnes was a dramatic baritone anyway, but who am I to say!
I´m a professional singer too, and as far as I know Giacomini had a very respectable career. I´ve seen him in several occasions and once, when I was younger and still singing in a chorus, I stood on stage with him as he sang Radames. He is a very good singer. I don´t think singers should be judged by how famous they are. Not everybody wants to have that kind of career. Nor everybody can, that´s true too. Cograts to both of them, Milnes and Giacomini. BTW Domingo is a great singer as well.
First time I heard this I couldn't believe the sounds that were coming out of such a tiny man. I was blown away by his pure balance of formants. I mean he sounds like a baritone. I will put this duo up against any other singing this duet.
Io ho ascoltato diverse volte Giacomini negli anni '90. Due volte a Padova in concerto, dove ero a pochi metri da lui. Ricordo ancora le due note finali di Cielo e mare...
@@Monnarchmonnarchy He sang the most demanding roles amazingly for his entire career and you judge him when he's older and has a wobble? Here he still sounds great. I imagine you watch "This is opera" on youtube and judge him based on the clips they decided to show you.
First great moment at 1:05, what a fortissimo, second great moment at 1:40,very best moment at 3:53. Giacomini is an absolut killer tenore here, Milnes a wonderful bartione. Both are powerhouses.
I saw and heard Giacomini in a vibrant Forza in Liceu in Barcelona, he was great and brave verdian tenor ! Milnes is in addition one of the best verdian bariton we should find closed to Capuccilli , sensational version !
Did you notice Milnes, the bariton, sigs the final high note (I think its a "si bemol" together with the tenor. Milnes is extraordinary. Hear his recording of Rossini's Guillaume Tell. At the end of the aria "Sois immobile" he suddenly applies a "si bemol", when he sings in Italian the phrase "pensa alla madre...." (songe à ta mère...). Unbelievable!
at 3 min on Giacomini covers up Milnes. It was an enormous voice. He is underratted, I suspect because he didnt have a great look. in Costume he was fine.
@@bodiloto Viva Verdi, e viva il grande Giacomini! Immenso leone della lirica che brillerà per sempre nel firmamento dei grandi artisti perduti, specie per chi riesce ad apprezzare la vera arte lirica. Bepi si mangiava i tre tenori a colazione. 1 Giacomini = 50 tre tenori messi insieme!
qua sentiamo due tenori , un corto /Milnes/ e un drammatico Giacomini. Grandissimo Giacomini . L’Ultimo Tenore Drammatico Vero ! Sublime ! Chapeau bas. il vecchio
Giacomini was fantastic. I saw him a few times at the Met. Extraordinary technique, beautiful tone. His career was overshadowed by Pavarotti and Domingo.
At the end Milnes sings the same high note as Giacomini, not a lower one as baritons do. This proves Milnes was actually a dramatic tenor who chose to go bariton. Have you heard his "songe à ta mère, elle nous attend tous les deux" of his Guillaume Tell? (recorded in Italian with Pav)
I heard that one of the reasons Giacomini stopped singing at the Met was because he didn't want to be second cast to Domingo's light Otello. When you hear this you can understand why. Domingo could only dream of sounding like this in this role.
I am biased against Domingo because to my ear he lacks squillo, has no effective top and has a voice that is not capable of great volume. He began early on as a much more lyrical tenor and probably should have avoided the dramatic and spinto roles.
Truthismaster I agree about Domingo. Problem with Giaco. was inconsistency-stupendous one night and not in voice the next. Also, as an actor he was 0-.
@@jphubert -- "Squillo"...Wow! Who knew? Cheers from Acapulco!🍰
There are so many stories about why one singer does this or that. I saw part of Otello as sung by Domingo. He was hardly "light." The last scene was just heartbreaking, especially when he realized Desdemona was innocent. If his name was other than Domingo no one would tell such stories. For shame.
@@ransomcoates546 REALLY??? Inconsistent… damn
I sang with Giacomini at HGO years ago. He was a very humble, very religious man. But I've never heard such a voice, ever!! He was the best!!
I was lucky enough to work with Giacomini back in '96, at Covent Garden, in Turandot. I was singing the minor role of the Mandarin and on the 1st day of rehearsals we had a music run-through in a small studio room. I will never forget the sheer size and volume of Giacomini's voice; he had so much 'blade' (focus) in his voice it was almost unbearable to behold in a small space. I have worked with many great voices since, but none have left me feeling quite as awe struck as he did. An unbelievably powerful instrment.
Thanks much for sharing your most enviable experience! In your view as a professional (rather than just an enthusiast such as I), how does Giacomini compare to Del Monaco?
I once witnessed Jon Vickers, incredible voice, his whole body shaked by shear force
and one other question, my father was tenor and choirus master with the Dutch Groot Omroepkoor, and the got a grammy for Faure, as his son (tenor too) I heard a lot of tenors like Gedda, Bergonzi, Domingo, Carreras, James King, Alagna and a lot of Russians under Gergiev, but why Giacomini was never that famous???
that is a mystery for me too - giacomini is really great - maybe he needed some Holliwood glare on him
Giacomini enjoyed a stellar career in all the major houses but somehow didn't get all the publicity.. Pavarotti and Domingo and Carreras admired him greatly.
The amount of testosterone in these outstanding voices is so massive that my phone started to grow a beard.
Ahahahaha!
😂😂😂😂
That’s a FUKKIN FACT💪🏿!!!
Jajaajaja 👍🏻
😂
R.I.P. Giacomini one of the best Otello I have ever heard
VERY TRUE!!!
Concerning Mr. Giacomini. Once I found myself being covering him in La Forza del Destino; at that point I have never heard him but knew of him. When the reheatrsal began and he opened his first line: 'Ah per sempre' I though 'WHAT THE HELL AM I DOING HERE'. If this man have to stop in the middle of a perdormance and I have to jump in, the audience will kill me. Thanks God he never cancel.
Yeah I could see that! Jeez!
I sang in the chorus of many productions with Giacomini: he was astonishing, in musicality as in sound.
Tenor drowned out baritone here and he’s much older than Milnes
What a shame he didn’t get the adulation he deserved I never knew of him till recently but in my opinion Giacomo has and had one of the greatest Tenor voices of all time and nobody today can hold a candle to him
NOBODY !
Actually Milnes is 5 years older than Giacomini.
@@falkfink It's opera singing, not opera acting. I'll take great vocal acting over great stage acting any day. I'm there for Merli and Del Monaco, not Olivier.
@@falkfink That tells me you're no singer
@@falkfink your job as a singer does not mean you are truly a singer. It simply is that your muse has been feeding you. To someone like you, Caruso asked to close his or her eyes to be able to appreciate beautiful singing.
I think Milnes is very gracious here. At the conclusion he seemed genuinely amazed at Giacomini's singing, and besides the kiss on the cheek if you notice he pushes him forward in the bow.
What an amazing tenor with an amazing track record
RIP Giuseppe Giacomini
Semplcemente grandiosi! Giacomini è indubbiamente una delle più belle voci della storia
one of my favorite Giacomini moments...here, in this moment, he is unparalleled.
Giacomini is one of my heroes. What a privilege to be able to share such great music.
I listened Giacomini live 4 times; two of them here in Padua in concert at the Verdi Theater. I too do keep a bright memory of the several great qualities of his singing, but inevitably the more vivid one is the incredible strength of his voice. The last note of "Cielo e mare", the si bemolle "Ah vien...!" was a crescendo of inexhaustible, unforgettable power.
Grande maestro, quando mai riascolterò una voce come la tua.
Mai più.
Dopo quei tre "sangue" in prima fila qualcuno deve aver lasciato un ricordino sulla
poltrona....Immenso il tenorone Giacomini!!
Giacomini eating the baritone up (as usual) with his outstanding singing.
Great post. THANKS!
What's amazing is that Sherrill Milnes sings the high note in "Dio Vendicator".
Giacomini avrebbe meritato molto di più.
Che la terra gli sia lieve e che il Cielo possa accoglierne anima e voce.
1:38 Sangue! Sangue!! SANGUUUEEEEE!!!!!
That's what made me love this piece 🤩
SI PEL CIEL MARMOREO GIURO!
Man, I've watched this over and over and get a chill and smile of pleasure every time. Love that Giacomini!
Magnificent duet. Two power house voices.👏👏
Every time I see this video, I am awestruck by the sheer beauty and power of Giuseppe Giacomini's voice.
Giacomini is singing like a GOD here! I can't figure out why he never got the acclaim he deserved.
This days, who sings like DelMonaco and Giacomini sounds unnatural, screamy not beautiful while the nasal,crooners, leggero, piccolo, pushing, microphone dependent opera singers rule today. I won't drop any names tired of their fans get butt hurt.
@@mariofilippeschi4855 it’s all pretentious bs
He was humble. He didn't feel the need to hire PR and marketing. He just loved to sing
search youtube for nessum dorma in Moscow and Giacomini. He had to sing the aria twice because of the endless applause.
@@Alksinderwasn't that Tokyo?
I love how Milnes actually hisses " Cassio"
@Barone Vitellio Scarpia dang what a downgrade
1:03
In my opinion, this is one of the best versions of this beautiful, powerful duet. You have Giacomini, who was one of the best dramatic tenors ever and Milnes who was a fantastic baritone. How many baritones are out there that can sing high notes and sostenuto like Milnes. Bravissimi!!!
Leonard Warren matched Mario Del Monaco in live performances.
MacNeill!!
Robert Merrill. Perfect dramatic chiaroscuro.
I love Milnes and Merrill together. I met Sherill in '89, the man exudes masculinity. It hits you like a hot oven as you open the door. Damn.
TWO ....... HIGH Ab’s...POWERFUL!!! Inspiration to the highest!!! THE AUDIENCE WERE the lucky ones this night!!!
Straight As, actually!
Giacomini es una trompeta del cielo, Milnes con su preciosa y potente voz todo lo hace hermoso, qué extraordinarias voces de estos dos inmensos, inmensos, inmensos artistas!
I heard Giacomini in Dallas in the late 70's/ early 80's. I think I heard him in Forza and it was amazing. Pure, virile sound. None of this psuedo-stuff that is churned out these days masquerading as big time throats. Corelli and Giacomini were 18 wheelers in a parking lot full of Chevy Novas. In my next life, if God will not let me sound like Corelli, then I will insist on Giacomini.
What a fabulous technique Giacomini has! a superb voice
Mr Giacomini, as they say "RESPECT!" I remember my mother talking about a fanciulla he did at covent garden. I remember the tone of her voice as she described him. It was one of awe. I can now see why. Has to be the best concert version of this duet i have ever heard! AMAZING!
I watch this every morning, its like a cup of coffee...
every time i bring a FAZZOLETTO when i have a cold, i could not help to start singing EEEE IL FAZZOLETTO CHIO LE DIEDI PEGNO PRIMO D'AMORRRRRRRRRRRRR and i feel so gooddddd!!! and i think to Giuseppe and i feel a little of his voice inside me
I love the baritone voice of sherrill Milnes. He is the best !!!
He's so dramatic and leonine. caSSIO!!
Milnes was a true musician, an all around baritone, a great actor, etc., Giacomini was good as othello, great performance..JRT
I was standing on stage quite close to him in his 1977 "Norma" performances at the Wiener Staatsoper. The Norma was Molnar-Talajic. I remember his voice cutting through my head like a knife, and hearing it come back to us on the stage. He was not a big man, but his voice sounded like it, and it was produced without any visible tension. Thinking about the tenors I heard at the Staatsoper from the period 1974-78, I'd say his squillo was unmatched.
Fabulous...both...Giuseppe especially !!!!!!!!!!!! Bravissimi !!!!!
That's the best three 'sangue' I've ever heard.
It's not that Milnes had a small voice...It's just that Giacomini's tenor is HUGE! I don't think Milnes was a dramatic baritone anyway, but who am I to say!
Guilty as charged. Why have I never heard this man before? He's magnificent.
And young Milnes....be still, my heart!
AMAZING!!!!!!!! I love Milnes and love Giacomini, love their colours of voices, fantastic finale!
Amazing, they have almost exactly the same timbre.
Giacomini truely is the king of dramatic tenors
Bravo Maestro!! Questo é il autentico tenori dramatico, de la vocce scura e de forza!!
Absolutely incredible!
I´m a professional singer too, and as far as I know Giacomini had a very respectable career. I´ve seen him in several occasions and once, when I was younger and still singing in a chorus, I stood on stage with him as he sang Radames. He is a very good singer. I don´t think singers should be judged by how famous they are. Not everybody wants to have that kind of career.
Nor everybody can, that´s true too. Cograts to both of them, Milnes and Giacomini.
BTW Domingo is a great singer as well.
Milnes and Giacomini=AWESOME
Stunning duet! Stunning performance! Thank you thank you thank you.
Bravo! Bravo! Giacomini is outstanding... Milnes is in top form
Increíble dueto ...grandes los 2 y Giacomini el verdadero León de Venecia
Bravo Milnes with Giacomini you are super together!
First time I heard this I couldn't believe the sounds that were coming out of such a tiny man. I was blown away by his pure balance of formants. I mean he sounds like a baritone. I will put this duo up against any other singing this duet.
Del Monaco e Leonard Warren!
I love Giacomini. Now and forever.
Giacomini, arguably the most under-rated, or rather, under-appreciated tenor of the post-world War Two era.
Io ho ascoltato diverse volte Giacomini negli anni '90. Due volte a Padova in concerto, dove ero a pochi metri da lui. Ricordo ancora le due note finali di Cielo e mare...
Per me, in questa interpretazione Giacomini non ha niente da invidiare a Del Monaco! Stupefacente! Milnes poi non delude mai!
Milnes non delude mai? Ecco un buon esempio. Giacomini canta Milnes contro il muro.
Pulisciti la bocca quando parli di Sherrill Milnes.
guiseppe giacomini , the real definition of opera singer ,
dark and high
@bodiloto's hater
senti bene come Giacomini con la sua voce Meravigliosa distrugge il tuo idolo!
povero Jaghetto ...
ahahahahahahahahahahahah !
@Sherrill Milnes Fan agree, but i add. He wobble, awful, nasal...
@@bodiloto hai ragione
@@Monnarchmonnarchy He sang the most demanding roles amazingly for his entire career and you judge him when he's older and has a wobble? Here he still sounds great. I imagine you watch "This is opera" on youtube and judge him based on the clips they decided to show you.
@@Tico4president this guys defenitly know what opera and what not! He still sound great??? A deaf generation!!!
I look at this every day. And love it.
First great moment at 1:05, what a fortissimo, second great moment at 1:40,very best moment at 3:53. Giacomini is an absolut killer tenore here, Milnes a wonderful bartione. Both are powerhouses.
Such a great performance!! Superb!! Great voices.
Grandissimo voci !!!!
BRAVISSIME!!!
I like the bothe Millnes and Giacomini. Greate Singer !
I can't get enough of this clip. I think I watch it at least twice a week. Viva Giacomini!
I saw and heard Giacomini in a vibrant Forza in Liceu in Barcelona, he was great and brave verdian tenor ! Milnes is in addition one of the best verdian bariton we should find closed to Capuccilli , sensational version !
Memorable and sustained Excellence as testament to collaboration of many for the benefit of all.
MARVELOUS DUET!!! BRAVISSIME!!! 🙌😊🎶🙏
Did you notice Milnes, the bariton, sigs the final high note (I think its a "si bemol" together with the tenor. Milnes is extraordinary. Hear his recording of Rossini's Guillaume Tell. At the end of the aria "Sois immobile" he suddenly applies a "si bemol", when he sings in Italian the phrase "pensa alla madre...." (songe à ta mère...). Unbelievable!
He also made a great Scarpia.
It's a A!
che bellezza, che bellezza, che bellezza, che bellezza......
Sincerely, this is superfluous to say, but... I am BLOWN AWAY.
Giacomini is great here.
...the "big voice", dark and with squillo, this is Giacomini.
Sangue, sangue... Sangue! Verdi, how great you were!
Thanks for re-posting this! Amazing!!!
Giacomini is like an elemental force. I love the conducting of Guadagno
at 3 min on Giacomini covers up Milnes. It was an enormous voice. He is underratted, I suspect because he didnt have a great look. in Costume he was fine.
Giacomini è davvero il Leon di San Marco!
Eduardo Ghissoni
Solo di San Marco ?!
No caro giovane amico,
Giacomini è il Leon di ITALIA 🇮🇹!!!
😉
Viva Verdi !
@@bodiloto Viva Verdi, e viva il grande Giacomini! Immenso leone della lirica che brillerà per sempre nel firmamento dei grandi artisti perduti, specie per chi riesce ad apprezzare la vera arte lirica. Bepi si mangiava i tre tenori a colazione. 1 Giacomini = 50 tre tenori messi insieme!
PERFECTION!!!!!
qua sentiamo due tenori , un corto
/Milnes/ e un drammatico Giacomini.
Grandissimo Giacomini .
L’Ultimo Tenore Drammatico Vero !
Sublime !
Chapeau bas.
il vecchio
@AfroPoli I didn't realize you knew better than two of the greatest singers in recent history.
Despite the collected look, on his third 'Sangue!' Giacomini about to split up with pent up emotion - very touching!
On repeated viewing noticed Giacomini is an unpredictable, elusive and fascinating singer. He is truly captivating.
Giacomini was fantastic. I saw him a few times at the Met. Extraordinary technique, beautiful tone. His career was overshadowed by Pavarotti and Domingo.
both are amazing!!!
A baritone who sings as a tenor in a duet with a tenor who sings as a baritone... Nice.
Try Vickers v. Gobbi
I'm confused
XxSaruman82xX he’s saying Sherill is really a tenor and Giacomini is actually a baritone with a good top
@@davidsimmons654 I get that, thanks. But why?
XxSaruman82xX Don’t try. It’s silly! 😀
wonderful expression! I loved it
Легендарный тенор! Удивительное по своей мощи,ровности и блеску звучание голоса !Недаром он так часто пел на Арена до Верона.
At the end Milnes sings the same high note as Giacomini, not a lower one as baritons do. This proves Milnes was actually a dramatic tenor who chose to go bariton. Have you heard his "songe à ta mère, elle nous attend tous les deux" of his Guillaume Tell? (recorded in Italian with Pav)
Milnes was a lyric baritone. If he was a tenor, he would be a LYRIC tenor.
Milnes...what a gorgeous hunk!
RIP Giuseppe Giacomini
l'unica voce per otello, bravo e impressionante Giacomini. Piero.
I can hear every notes Giacomini sings, high to low over Milan's.
She was just wonderfull.Edward Arckless ex Royal Oper Ballet Covent Garden London.
The geat Giacomini!
Ecxellent voices
Cosi si canta cazzo!! cosi!!!! Giacomini monumento nazionale!!
I come back here almost every day, so I thought I'd leave a comment
It's the position of the microphones combined with the fact that Giacomini has/had one of the most dramatic voices in modern times.
GRANDES.
Impresionante!!!!!, grandísimo.
oh man...this is just fabolous!!!
Epic
What an amazing sound he produces! Can a tenor today match him!
I was there that night. I never saw Milnes sweat so much in my whole life.
Giacomini mio che voce strepitosa che haiiiiiii