How to Record BETTER Acoustic Guitar Parts
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- Опубліковано 5 сер 2024
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Your xy technique has proved to give me the best acoustic guitar tracks I’ve ever done. Thanks again.
Love your passion. Thanks for taking the time to make these videos you are a excellent teacher.
Very nice video full of advices ! As always you are incredibly helpful Joe !! Thank you so much !
Great vid. Great teacher! This goes without saying but in the interest of other beginners watching - if you add a capo, you can’t just start playing the same chord shapes - you need to transpose the chords to accommodate the key shift. Easy enough to do, but worth mentioning I thought.
I don't record but man, I could listen to you all day. Great voice, great teaching.
Amazing tips as always Master Joe, thank you very much!!
I love putting a capo'd version up the middle and then open L&R... really widens the image....love the video Joe.
Incredibly helpful! Thank you, Joe!
Very inspiring video. This is giving me lots of ideas. Thanks so much!
Excellent video. I love simple but effective tips!
Excelent as usual!!!
Thak you for the class! You're great
Pretty darned cool! I really love doubling acoustics and have to admit I never thought of putting open down the middle and doubling capoed left and right. I'll be trying it this week. Maybe even with a capoed left and nashville strung right!
amazing stuff Joe, and so well explained
Another great video/tip, Joe, thanks ever so much! 👍 BTW: I dig the sound of your Gibson. Cheers!
Love doubling! Or tripling even and I keep a high strung acoustic for that 12 string sound 🏋️♂️ Good stuff Joe!
Key concept, adds variation, interest and depth. I noticed that you got the metronome goin' while recording - that's so key to the process. Also, for variations, viewers may want to check out the Nashville open tuning or hook up Jam Origin's Midi 2 to an electric - which opens the sound palette wide to VSTs and sample libraries. I've found Jam Origin's audio to midi plugin to be superior to Fishman's Triple Play e.g. if anyone's interested in that stuff. Thanks again.
Agreed 100 percent. I love doubling. Another fantastic tip. 👍
thank you that's a very good reminder
Thank you, great advice
Thank you.. nice informed vid... Enjoyed it..
Amazing tips!
Excellent tutorial my friend! Succinct but with specific and detailed instruction. I like how you avoided specific DAWs and software since what you teach can be applied to all. Big thumbs up. 👍 Subbed you.
Great video. Another trick I've used is to double your tracks but also use different mics.
Joe Gilder Best Ever 😊👍👍
I want this exact video with more tips like that! Maybe tips that are bit more advanced. It was really informative. Thanks!
Earlier this year I played three takes of an acoustic strumming song in G: one straight, uncapoed. A second in E with capo on 3rd fret, and a third in D with capo at fret 5.
Besides the voicing, I also varied the strum pattern. The E version (medium-high voicing) was open whole-note strum on beat 1, panned about 10 L. The other two were eighth notes with accents at 1, ‘2 and’, and 4. Those two takes were panned full L and R. I started the first verse with just the E take, and brought the other two in, 4 measures apart, at the chorus. Verse 2 used all three tracks throughout.
Finally, I tracked all three takes with two mics - one at the bridge and one at the 14th fret - and mixed each take about 20 points between the pan (L100 and L80, R 100 and R 80). Six tracks in all. That kind of drove me crazy with separate EQ on each track.
I must say it’s a full sound. With just the guitars it sounds quite nice. It might be a little crowded with piano, bass, lead and background vocals, and solo electric fills. I’m trying to decide if I like it. Next time I’m just going with one mic per take to keep things simple.
I’ll try this and other doubling effects again now that I have a J-45 and a second guitar in Nashville tuning.
I'm going to try doubling tonight, thanks Joe!
Loving the T-shirt
Great video, especially for beginners. Thank you.
Not only for beginners ! I produce music for a few years now and I've never thought about the capo trick ! I'm looking forward to try that on my next production !
Very good!! The pick is also incredibly important, sometimes changing pick you get more than changing guitar.
@@fredriksvard2603 a pick is a plastic triangle used to play the guitar... you also can call it plectrum.
Good tips, all things I do a lot. Another is to play a staccato part over top of it to usher in a new verse or bridge. Same notes, just articulated high or using open strings & triads, etc. Really drives an acoustic track.
Thanks very helpful. I have usually recorded one track and cloned it and panned hard left and right and maybe put different effects on each track. I have recorded two tracks at once with a microphone and the guitar electronics and panned them. I see now having played the same track twice will sound like two different guitarists playing the same thing. Must try your suggestions.😀
this guitar is excellent
Very good video ☺️
Love this simple but sounds sweet idea! In fact, just wondering how would you mix/position them to get a Big Guitar sound without phase issue?
Hey Joe, great stuff, as usual. Low-key keeping me motivated to keep pressing on. Isn't defining one's own voice really what its about!? Hey, is that an Earthworks mic, or what is it? I poked around to try to figure out what is...just curious. It pairs well with your Gibson. Keep 'em comin' boss! ~K
Its sounds so full!!!!
Good video,
What do you think of acoustic guitars pickups inside? I have a nice Eastman with a decent set of pickups that I plug into a Line 6 500HDX effects board set to wide acoustic - sounds nice to me and it’s clean - no mics all plug in. As always great video!
Joe your music is awesome. I’ve been enjoying it on Spotify. Would you recommend just recording my acoustic guitar tracks with earthworks sr25 mics in xy and then just mixing them together if I decide to have mono tracks? Is this better than recording with just one mic? Are the xy tracks stacked on top of each other more balanced than just a single mic??
"Easiest way is to double" haha says you!! I'm rubbish at strumming, I usually take the one guitar track and use a stereo spreader...not fully "wide open" as it doesn't sound great, but just pushed out to maybe 50% either side...vocals down the middle...
I'd like to be able to play the same thing twice but it's haaaard! Good vid Joe as always!
honestly i think using a stereo spreader and reverb sounds better than doubling, and anyways theres nothing wrong with making do with your current skill level
You can also double an acoustic with two different Mics, one pointing at the body and the second pointing to around the 12 th fret that way they are perfectly in time but different sounds. You then pan one left to about 90% and the other to the right at 90%
Great tips! Thank you for the continually spot on content you produce.
As a side note, capo is an Italian word and is therefore pronounced cap-oh, cap as in baseball headwear and oh as in “oh, did I pronounce it incorrectly?” 😉
Good thing you didn't learn German, or you'd be telling us half the words in English are pronounced wrong. Capo is borrowed from Italian and now it's an English word pronounced CAY-poh.
spacenostril ha ha. Nice. I did learn German. 😊
Great tips. What's your take on recording quad guitars? I saw a youtube video by Periphery's guitarist Misha Mansoor, and he talked a bit about it for more metal-esque rhythms.
A good video on doubling guitar tracks for a good sound.
Used this technique on a song this week. After doubling and panning l & r my correlation meter was showing some phase issues. I was able to reduce the phasing by tightening the width of panning. That said, is this something you've run into, and do you have a tip on how to deal with it? Thanks.
Thank you! Hey what's the home stead collective?
An easier way to double things in a way that saves time is to use two mics and record them onto two tracks simultaneously. That way, your timing will be identical, plus each mic will pick up different tonal properties due to the placement. Of course, this can lead to phasing issues but that just means that you need to reconfigure the mic placement. Lastly, if you want to add the element of how it would sound live, and have a pickup with a preamp, you can run that to a 3rd track, again simultaneously recorded. Then you get several takes of the same performance, that can be panned to different places in the mix. Of course adding higher voiced overdubs can add other textures as well, but again can be tracked simultaneously thus cutting down the likelihood of syncing issues where the rhythm is concerned. Plus some of the "phasing issues" can create happy accidents that open doors to other textures. Just my 2 cents, take it or leave it, for what it's worth.
Joe...I use s1 and I allways want to know if there is a way (shortcut) to erase quickly the projects (like this one) that is supposed to be a test. Every time y set a test project I have to go back and erase it manually. Is there a way easy?
other doubles that work : espresso, ice cream... ;-) Thanks for sharing and have a very good day! ;-)
With the espresso, even tripling works. However, sometimes too much is too much: ice cream
Let it be said, please don't copy and paste a part to "double" it. The imperfections are the magic!
Amen
I'm really struggling to get my guitar to sound this good, one day I'll make it
Another idea for a "doubled" track (assuming you have an extra guitar) is to use Nashville tuning (high strung). I found a full set of strings made by Martin for about $6.50. Just keep them straight when putting them on your guitar. It's easy to get confused because they are not ordered by thickness.
Yeah, Nashville tuning works great for a doubled track. 👍 Another option for a set of strings would be EJ38H by D'Addario for about $6.30. Cheers!
I can't believe I've never done this, but always wanted to
Keep it in mind for your next song/EP! 😉
... And the best part is you don't have to learn different way of playing the guitar. :)
When my shiny new J-45 arrived this weekend, I replaced the strings on my mid-sized Gurian with the D’Addario Nashville set. Next time my house is quiet I’m going to go after that simulated 12-string sound by doubling the deep, sonorous Gibson with the clear and jingly Gurian.
Hey, Joe, I saw a video once where a guy detuned his guitar on the additional takes, and it sounded pretty good! I think he ended up doing about 5 passes with the acoustic, one that was tuned to 440Hz, and the others were +3 cents, +5 cents, -3 cents and -5 cents.
Saw that. Pretty wild. I'm too impatient for that 😂
nice
What mic is that? Thanks!
Nice Outro
Do you think a windscreen on a mic is also better for singing??
What is the name of DAW you used
What microphone is that?
I do this all the time .. never knew it has a name 😂
Sometime i would record vocal and guitar on a single mic ... then i make 2 copy of the track ... so total 3 tracks.
Then i EQ boost low and high of two tracks and pan them right and left and boost mid of one track and keep it in centre..
It gives an effect like two guitars are playing in two side and the singer is in the middle.
Careful with that. It causes all kinds of phase issues.
@@HomeStudioCorner So far i haven't face that, luckily 😂 ; may be because i first time stretch and correct the original one and align it with the time grid then i make the copies and then align them from the same starting point.
Sometime i would keep a slight difference between the left and right panned part, to create a delay like effect; and with a bit of reverb on both of them it actually creats a cool sound .. like a wide ambience.
Just gotta say that guitar sounds REALLY good. J-45?
Yup!
is there a science to where you pop that capo, or do you typically toss it on the 5th fret, say, and start plucking around to find a good complimentary rhythm?
Put it at the fret that where you can use a familiar chord shape to make the same chord name as the original. Example, if you need an Am, you can get it with an Em shape capo'd at the 5th fret, or a Dm shape capo'd at the 7th fret, or an Am shape at the 12 fret (an octave up).
Do you add reverb to your acoustic guitars when mixing and if so what is your go to setting? Really like our acoustic sound.
Almost never
Any reason why?
Very instructive. Thanks. And it confirms what I have been doing for quite a while. One way of doubling is of couse simply copying one track, pasting it on another and then add a different effect to that track. Reduces the risk of filling tracks with imprecisions and creates space nonetheless.
Where are you pointing that mic at? Is it perspective warp or are you pointing it across the sound hole towards the bridge?
Pretty much right in front of the soundhole. Crazy I know, but this guitar sounds great there.
@@HomeStudioCorner Ha! Just a proof that one shouldn't simply stick to "tried and tested" methods, but rather explore what makes most sense for your own situation. Thx!
Capo Trick. Boss.
Do you like Omni or cardiod for acoustic
Cardioid
Cool mate . Bryan Adams back to you 👍👍
Double tracking with two different guitars adds some nice texture
Absolutely
you should explain, that when you used the capo, you have to transpose the song - playing different chords in relation to how many frets you raised it.. I also like using different guitars with different string weights... You can also if you have a pickup on the guitar, you can run it into an amp, mike the amp, perhaps add chorus or verb... and ALSO mike the guitar. now you have two tracks with different tonal qualities. so many things you can try really depends on the song
Try reversing the phase on at least one track as well.
Hey. Could you tell us the chords in that progression?
C Am F G
Another trick is that you can do the same effect by expanding/converting the mono signal into stereo with an analog delay (10-40ms should be enough)
Nope nope nope.
@@HomeStudioCorner or just duplicate the recorded track, making your job easier.
Which mic did you use to mic the guitar?
Roswell Mini K47
@@HomeStudioCorner isn't that the mini K47 on your voice and rather a pencil condenser on the guitar?
What brand of sound card do you use?
Presonus StudioLive
@@HomeStudioCorner nice!
How about using two different microphones, different positions? I have checked some your videos but I've never seen you recording acoustic guitar with two different mics.
Nah I don't do it. I choose the best mic for the guitar and change other things.
@@HomeStudioCorner fair enough! I don't have a best mic, they sound different but both decent :) One mic towards the 12th fret, another facing the bridge is what I'm testing right now.
Tks for your videos!
new j-45?
Always work with a click track.
stuart wrigglesworth I only realised this after many years of playing to a drum track.
Really basic things...
Not revolutionary, cuz that would be Graham's channel?
😂