Wolseley 6/99 Police
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
- The Wolseley 6/99 was a stalwart of British police forces for over a decade, but what was the big Farina like in police guise? Lets take a look
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As well as bring a fan of classic cars, I'm also a fan of vintage TV sets and TV shows. The wonderful "Gideon's Way" 60s detective series features one of these cars in the opening sequence.
"See a black Wolseley around mate, be careful, it's probably the Rozzers". These cars were so typical of the time. That bell and the loud hailer are brilliant. Getting stopped by one was a sure fire sign to get your collar felt back in the days before 'T' shirts n stuff when most chaps wore a a shirt with buttons and a collar and tie (oddly designed to cover the buttons). A top review as usual Matt and thanks for sharing.
Love this. Brings back memories of a local owned civilian Wolseley Big Farina that the owner was still using in the late 80s early 90s. My Dad rebuilt the BW35 for him and your observation of the kick down ' lots of engine noise for no more speed' is very reminiscent.
They did not have radial ply tyres in 1960! They didn’t come in until the mid 60s. Originally they were on cross plys - which did make the steering a bit lighter. The 6/110 had an ammeter and oil pressure gauge standard - and walnut picnic tables in the back.
I think, in Matt's excitement, that must have been a slip of the tongue... 😉
did I say the wrong way around? I meant cross ply, the first car with radial was the P6
@@furiousdrivingI think a certain Ian Seabrook might challenge you on that one! While the Rover P6 may well have been the first BRITISH car to have radial tyres, it was the Citroen 2CV that was the first car to have radial tyres fitted as standard...
The Wolsley6/110 didn't have walnut picnic tables. I had one (648NMU), in Brown Taupe and Sandy Beige two tone, which I remember with much fondest, apart from the lack of power steering. However, the Vanden Plas version did.
I believe that the lack of wood and leather was for ease of cleaning rather than looking frugal! 🤓
I remember one of these turning up each year in our school playground, fitted with a device on the front bumper that fired a piece of chalk at the ground when the brakes were applied. The distance between the chalk mark and the front of the car when it came to rest showed the braking distance of course.
I also remember the first time I heard a two tone horn, on a fire engine in Vauxhall Bridge Road, I jumped out of my skin!
Great video. Almost expected to see the stalwarts of British cinema - John Gregson and Jack Hawkins turn up.
My dad had exactly the same one in the the mid 70s he always talked about it and how it was a ex police car. Thanks for this
Very well preserved car and i like that all the period correct police equipment is in it.
The 6 cylinder that was in the Austin Healey, and the MGC
I so need a Winkworth bell on my car... 🔔
My Dad had a 1966 Westminster. The engine noise just brought back my childhood. Great review Matt.
Well done Matt a brilliant video and what a survivor grew up seeing many of them on classic 50s and 60s shows like the lavender hill mob Norman wisdom and many others! My grandad had two of the big farinas both Austin’s a a99 and a a110 so very comfy and an ideal choice for the police being so fast compared to many cars back then
What a great old Police car and in 1960 100mph wasn't to shabby
Intermediate hold is meant to keep the transmission in second and not allow a change up to top. Useful for climbing long hills or overtaking.
As a son of a Policeman (circa 1950's) I remember watching the black & white movies with these cars. My dad was on a bicycle for his beat, so didn't sit in these cars, unless required to do so. (such as when they were chasing the Great Train Robbers..) Nice to see one still intact and complete.
Talking of stinky /gross police cars, many years ago when used to work at a body shop/garage, the police brought in a their unmarked bmw because they had arrested a homeless person the day before and the car was infested with human fleas asking could we de-infest the car as the fleas were extremely vicious covering the officers in many bites. The boss volunteered me to do the task of ridding the car of the nasty things. It was a bloody awful job but i managed to get the car clean.
I was proud of myself de-infesting it as it took a great amount of attention to detail to do.
I think of the big Pininfarina bodies the Peugeot 404 is the most balanced design
Can Matt find a 404 to drive furiously though?
There were some Lancias with that design language as well!
and the FIAT 1500L
I have seen re-runs of Gedeon's way in black and white late at night even here in Australia!
I have to admit that I’m old enough to remember these cars, and hearing that bell! But there again, I am over 60, so that’s hardly surprising.😂 Terrific video Matt, really a nostalgia fest.
To Impersad.
Me too! I'm 72, so I remember how loud that bell was, when I heard it behind me, whilst riding my bike!
Loved these cars since the late 1960's and early 1970's when I was still in shorts, and a school chums dad owed a by then elderly example, which included a hole in the floor (not an optional extra, just rust). As my dad ran a Mini I was in awe of this behemoth with leather and walnut. Seeing them appear regularly in the Mysteries of Edgar Wallace on the telly late at night was always a welcome sight. Another great review!
Matt, I think that the gearbox, whilst it is a Borg Warner, it is the earlier DG box and not the 35. The giveaway is the location of reverse gear. DG reverse is at the furthest distance to Park whereas the 35 reverse is next to Park. The intermediate hold is another DG giveaway.
Yes the DG250 which my car has. And I like the gear hold function as you can vary the change up point from 2nd to top anywhere between 20mph to 70mph, the idea being you could enjoy a more spirited driving experience without having to constantly stamp on the accelerator to get it to kick down, and also lets the car start off in 2nd.
@calumbaxter99 46 Nice
for a Slush Box ;-)
BEUTIFULL WOLSLEY BRAND,,,,,,,,BEST OF BRITISH ENGINEERING..,,..,,..,,..,,..,,
Lovely old girl! (Note the non standard Police Spèedo!) My Dad had two near identical Wolseleys Both in two tone "sickly green" (Whack!!!!OUCH!! Sorry Dad! x) a 1963 6/99 (11 CLE) and a later 1965 Auto 6/110 (HUC 409C) which I learnt to drive in! (I was only 12!! My Dad really loved me fortunately!) Now at 72 I can remember this as if it was yesterday!. Unfortunately I now can't remember what I had for lunch yesterday! Happy Days!
The Winkworth bells were still in use into the 80s…
I definitely remember Regan's Consul GT using a bell in the 1974 series of The Sweeney
The Met used them until, iirc, 1982 😳
My Mate brought an ex-Police 3.0 GXL Granada MkI (in late 70's) that had the calibrated speedo, and zip in head lining. It was un-marked in Civvy colour,, but He never used to get pulled over, as Police used to think it was still a cop car.
Matt the Wolseley would have had Cross-ply tyres, not radials.
I said the wring way around
Since the first time I sat in a 1966 Austin Cambridge that my Dad borrowed from his friend to replace his regular 1969 Hillman Minx, I have loved the hewn from solid high riding retro beauty of the Farinas. Especially the Westminster6/110, Wolesley 6/99 and Vanden Plas 3.0 litre with the big C Series.
A love affair with something that BMC could be very proud of indeed.
That's made me go and watch Hubnut's 24/80 again! 😀
The skinny tyres on those makes them pretty good in the snow too!
😂😂😂, that was a great intro Matt. Made me chuckle...
Our two Rover 3.5 V8 Coupes which had the BW35 auto boxes got up to speed rapidly when you buried your foot into the floor carpet and activated the kick down. And early P6 V8s had BW35 and later ones the more robust BW65
The number on the dashboard is the fleet number, not the call sign. The "T" suffix identifies it as a Traffic car, as distinct from an Area Car. This car was first registered as "703CXA", but lost it's original registration number when it had to be re-shelled due to excessive rust. The restorer did, however, take every feature from the original shell, and fit them all to the new one, thus keeping the car authentic in every detail. I think that the current owner could make a good case for retaining "703CXA", as it is the only Met 6/99 in preservation, of which I am aware. There are two other genuine Met big Farina Wolseleys still extant, but I think that they are both 6/110s. As ever, I do stand to be corrected.
Nice to see big Farinas getting some love! I’ll never sell my 6/110, they’re just a beautiful looking car!
I am a big fan of the Land Crab Wolseley - worked with a guy who had one when I had a Morris 1800 Land Crab and I was sooooo jealous
My uncle had the 6/110 for many years - some owners, he included, used to mount their registration plate where the Police sign was mounted on the radiator grill, to fool other road users, of course.
The L632 sidelight/indicator front combo is a classic piece of design - not just used on BMC products, subsequently being employed on other marques to satisfy regulations, such as, for example, the later Saab Sonnet.
The first thing one did if a black Wolesley came up behind one at night was check one's speed, 9/10 times just a black Wolesley. I had people sticking to 5mph below the limit when I had my ex MP blue P6 even though sans blue light. That shade of blue was not a standard colour. That Pye radio was almost identical to the one in the Cambridges / Oxfords when I first became a Taxi driver in Crawley.
The Met used 6/110 too.
My brother (a policeman) when he joined worked with a old timer who was drove the 6/110 and he told a story of them getting a couple of these up to a ton on the Hackney marshes, only he ran out of road and rolled it. Was the second one of these rolled on that road on the same day…
100 mph must have been an INSANE speed in 1959... outside of a racetrack anyway.
In the 70's-90's my dad had the exact same radio in his car as the "walkie talkie", he called it a radio telephone, I think the frequency could be changed my removable crystal. Probably still have a couple of sets in the garage.
I loved these old tanks when I first saw them in old cops and robbers films on the screen in our local Odeon cinema on a Saturday morning. That was our weekly entertainment highlight of the week in the sixties.
Memories of driving those cars; ok on good A road but hated twisty minor ones. They loved to plough straight on as the lock was wound on.My garage dealt with several front end dings from a particular local. oak. Tree still there and bears many a scar. As for trilby hats, never saw anyone in the back with one!! Great car of its day.
Most cars in the 60s ran on crossply tires, the police also used the Mk2 Jag, and the Mini Cooper S too keep with the crims!!
“Calling all cars…calling all cars”
Lovely. I do, however, prefer the 6/90 design you tested which has stood the test of time better than the farina. That said, I’d get a Riley Pathfinder with the original suspension.
This brings back memories my dad was a policeman and he drove the Westminster and occasionally we would get a lift to school in it it was brilliant
Oh yes, this is the stuff! 😁 There were also 4 cylinder Farina Wolseleys - the 15/60 and 16/60 (which you did mention in the video.) The 6/99 was replaced by the 6/110, with a more up-to-date Farina body.
My dad's Westy was the first car I drove for any distance (VCO 293) - on Eye airfeld when I was 10. I can still smell the leather seats.
Re. Bells, in those days it was possible to differentiate the bells of police, fire and ambulance when in town.
Hi Matt. Thanks for a good look at a genuine police car! There are a couple of points on which I'm not sure whether you're correct though. Given the era, I'd have thought that the automatic was more likely a B/W DG than a B/W 35. Also I doubt whether you're correct that the auto trans could be had with overdrive. If such a thing existed it'd be such an in demand item that we'd surely have heard of it. It was interesting to see the rear seat space and the proximity of the crook to the driver. It's not wonder that the 6/110 was made a little longer. Cheers.
I wonder if any of the Kray twins gang have been in the back.
Thought it was Jack the hat mcvitie at one point 😂
Put it in D1 pulls away in first
D2 pulls away in second
I had a VP 3 litre automatic
My dad had one of these, I think. He got insurance to replace the windshield at one point, the agent was pissed. "That thing was a police car, the windshield is laminated, cost a fortune"
The 6/99 was not the last of the big Wolseleys - that was the 6/110. I had one in 1969/70 - a 1965 one that already had chassis rust and the oil pressure was very low. Used to do 10 mpg with me driving - well I was only 21!
True, except that was only a facelift of this
Love the intro! Stunning car, with great details. Another great review Matt.
Thanks!
I have one of those Pye Vanguard boot units but I didn't realise they were used in police cars. I think they could be used as car phones in limos etc.
I don't know about a "dinky little bell " , Matt . Have YOU ever heard one? I have myself!
When I was a boy, riding my bike, "no hands"!
Very LOUD bell, I assure you! As well as a nice , beautifully shaped piece of chromework, that looks on the stylish bumper!
It might be loud out in the open on a bike, but inside a noisy car? Not so much
The Wolseley - an actual vintage car, with a real history.
Bremont watches - none of the above.
Love the sound of that engine! 👍
2-speed wipers, and one wiper's useless! 😂
I seem to remember the funny bone catching door pull on my Farina Cambridge too.
I've been reading Autocar mags since about 1990, and I remember even in the 90's the road tests showed car speedometers can be out by quite a margin, the worse I remember was out by 10mph at 100mph, so you may think you're doing a ton but no, only 90mph
Intermediate hold was useful in icy conditions.
inherited a 1983 Ford LTD Crown Vic (2-tone brown; landau vinyl top; chocolate crushed velvet seats)
it had the Fuel Efficiency 14-inch steel wheels -- so at an Auto Recycling Yard, got the wide alloy rims + V-rated lowprofile tires of a wrecked police cruiser ...
if it had been the more practical Station Wagon we might have kept it longer -- but got a Rabbit Diesel pickup instead, when we bought an old house that needed work !
The rear light placement nicely predicts one of those eighties Alfas IMHO
Very comprehensive review 👍
Surely cross ply tyres as radials where a later innovation.
A Brilliant Road Test Matt of a rather lovely looking car.
Magnificent machine, reminds me of Endeavour the tv series ☺️👌
I remember a friend of mine had a Morris Oxford and that would reach 90+mph about 1971 good car 🚗 only paid about £100 😊
I had a video game of the Italian job and one of these cars was in the game 😊
Enjoyed this video - Thanks!
I’m only here for the Winkworth bell…
Ding ding it's the sound of da police!!
The 6/99 was not the last of the big Wolseley . The was the 6/100. Then do you count the Wedge?
110 was only a facelift, they Wedge wasnt thought of as a full size car by then
Nice motor
Another great video has always matt and family 👍
just reminds me of my Austin Cambridge A55 farina, great video
Great report on an lovely car.
Its a fair cop guv. You rozzers got me bang to rights. I'll come quietly.
Hilarious 😆 Matt. I am in UK. Maybe see you at FOTU.
Enjoying the videos on the channel 👍👍👍
Top notch brand Matt excellent stuff man..👍🏻
This video is, almost like being inside this smooth powerful, glamourous car - but NOT being arrested though!
Wish you could’ve gone to the Japanese Classics Sunday NL! Bring the Miata next time Matt! Keep up the great content!
Great video.
Great content again
Cool car matt 👍👍
Cracking your elbow on the metal door pull?
Perhaps that's why the Morris Minor had a leather strap to pull the door shut with.
Clang-a-lang-a-lang...
Lovely car! When are you popping up to the motorist club?
In Yorkshire? Not got it planned yet
Gorgeous car
Lovely old Car.
Saving Money at any Cost
Would it have had radial tyres originally or cross plies?
Cross plies, the P6 was the first with radials in 63
Cripes !! Its the rozzers !!..er that was another episode 😣
Carefully-calibrated needle bounce.
One S or two?
F-cars. 😁👍
No Heater
this one has
You must feel sorry for the police having to drive these cars against the Jaguars of the villains! Perhaps why the Met went for the Jaguar 3.8s .
That one is a tribute car and not the genuine article. It’s a fully detailed copy
See the above comment, it’s been reshelled but everything was transferred over
@@furiousdriving yes, I know. Although not genuine, it’s still really nice 👍
Yipee i'm here, what a honey.
Just a quick question. Would u drive a Citroen C4 Cactus?
you mean to test or to own?
@@furiousdriving Test😄
English cars of that era a literally 10 years behind most American cars of the time.