Ok so I am to believe that Drake spoon fed all of that information from Meet The Grahams to Kendrick so that Kendrick would make the most haunting rap song in the history of rap about Drake’s family 20 minutes after Drake releases a song about Kendrick’s family? And I am to believe that this brilliant double jeopardy plan didn’t involve Drake having a song ready to release back at Kendrick 10 minutes after said song to inform him that everything he just said was fed to him? Instead I am to believe that Drake’s brilliant plan involved waiting 2 days so that Kendrick could drop a diabolical club scorcher for the holiday weekend and then reveal to him 2 nights later that it was all a lie fed to him? In the words of JayZ: …okay
Something’s up, but I think Kendrick will acknowledge it and can either confirm he got played, or reveal some more details that it’s true. Low key think drake is trying to throw him off the scent.
I think you're not giving Kendrick and Drake credit here. He dropped not like us and took the attention from meet the Grahams. If Drake dropped this after it would get drowned. It's not going to go up against a club banger with rapidy rap song. Both of them are beeing strategic.
If Drake ACTUALLY planted this information , his tone would be a lot more light hearted and more “the jokes on you”, rather than annoyed and emotional. Also he would have dropped instantly, like Kendrick did. That would have killed the buzz of Kendricks last few tracks right way. He’s lyin, it’s mid to me.
I don’t think you’re right. He may have planted the info, he alluded to it in family matter. The pic speaks for itself; and the fact that Kendrick doesn’t have that pic on streaming. Analyze it, it’s too coincidental. The shirt is a shortee shirt(Kendrick diss), mmg and ozempic(Ross)etc. That’s too coincidental.
And I don’t think he would have dropped instantly, because then Kendrick doubled on Difffent angle because he probs realized that angle was no use. So when Kendrick dropped that song, he had to address those, which takes time
@@RobMarkmancome on his tone was off also who says in the battle at the end it was worthy bcz it’s Kendrick and he said some weird stuff about him being a pedo! He’s to famous to be doing that meanwhile R Kelly is in jail n WEINSTEIN!
Rob, homie, you one of like 3 people in media looking at this whole beef in an unbiased way, acknowledging when either of them drop bars, and waiting for actual proof Thank you, you a real one G
Claims they set up Kendrick with the bait then called the people who gave him the info clowns? Lmao Sounds like cope tbh. He went from “drop drop” to “I’m over this beef!” Realllyyyyy quickly
Rob you understand the culture and why they want him gone. The Atlanta stuff he referenced in the ‘not like us’ is why. It’s not like Em who come up in Detroit local scene doing open mics and cyphers. Someone who deferred to and revered hiphop icons when he come in. His music pointed at the hypocrisy of white America constantly. He made an anti Iraq war song in 2004 - when he had everything to lose and a white audience. He understood his place in hiphop and privilege and what’s expected. Can you imagine him walking around with pacs rings on? Drake has leaned into commercialism in a way that’s seen as harmful and disrespectful in recent years. This isn’t mean spirited… the culture let this shit slide and he was an outsider lacking insight. He flexes his commercial power on his peers.
🔥 Has anyone noticed Drake rapping that Kendrick disclosed he was molested on a song is a LIE? He’s misquoting Kendrick and confirming that he’s a liar. 💯
They both telling lies, it's a rap battle you tell enough truth so that people will believe the shit that's not, or plant that seed so at least they believe it's possible.
@@sillynamereally “the predator” only looks once. Basically he one night stands em 💀 who are drakes ghost writers ?! 👻 ✍️ What are they doing ?? Feel like they setting him up
I find it interesting and strange that he would bring up Millie Bobby Brown, Dot never said anything about her. Is he rebutting on what social media has been pointing out? Why bring that up?
@@JGRG07 do you understand creativity? kendrick is rapping from a monotone voice because he was sitting Drake down therapy style and speaking with his family 1 on 1. Drake on the other hand sounds defeated and tired. Ask yourself this, if you knew all along that you fed Kendrick false information, why after the Kendrick track where he revealed those things about drake, why would you call him a liar in your ig story? Wouldn’t you be happy that he took the bait and wouldn’t you rub it in his face with proof?
@swaggtomaxx1 trueee and if they used someone to play Mole and feed false information he should have called out the fake Mole by name on track so Kdot could know that he knows exactly who Kdot was speaking to and being fed false information by. It doesnt take too much to connect the dots but people gonna choose to be ignorant minded for the sake of their pop star queen
@@JonathanCavazos-mb5hn this culture aint for them anyways. The real recognize real. Its always been that way since the beginning of their beef. We knew who was real in 2013
Kendrick mentioned that Drake is similar to Weinstein fuck the battle at this point . You can’t just say anything , if Drake is similar to him he needs to be locked up and the evidence needs to be publicized. If dot was just capping on all of that I can’t condone that
I don't believe either of them rn, but when it comes to battling, especially with how personal this has become, it's about ruining your opponent's reputation, and Kendrick is winning in that department. And if I recall, Drake dissed Rick Ross for using Ozempic. Why would he send Kendrick a picture with an Ozempic prescription with his name on it. This looks like damage control.
@@iampadrino I'm still questioning if Drake planted that; he could be lying. However, whoever gave Kendrick that does look like a troll attempt? Ozempic and Maybach glove look like a dig at Ross. The biggest thing that looks like someone was trolling Kendrick was the shirt that read "shortie," which looks like an apparent dig at Kendrick's height. I'm not sold on Drake being behind this, but it does look like someone trolled Dot and gave him bad intel.
It sounds like a good crisis team told Drake, "End this now and deny it all!" Drake said, "I'm too famous for this" then he went on to say, "If he was a PDF where is the paperwork?" And who would feed anyone information on being a pdf🤔 It isn't hitting correctly... something is missing in this diss... it does have a few good bars.
I like this record. But the angle from Meet the Graham's stuck with me, “Why believe you/you never gave us anything to believe in” followed by a ton of things he lied about. Makes it hard to trust without confirmation anything Drake says. And for all this to happen with Free and Kendrick still committed to do business with him, doesn’t feel believable. Maybe it’s true. But it’s a tougher angle to set.
of course he survives - it will be handled, business as usual, just watch- emergency team will prepare all statements needed, lawyers will prepare all settlements needed, some paid influencers and rappers will give him the support needed. Then he will be interviewed as needed and say some emotional shit needed (he shouldn’t let Kendrick provoke that beef, he’s working on that for the future). All this corporate bullshit the masses are eager to believe in.
He also kissed a girl, asked her age she said she's underage, and he proceeded to call her thick, say it felt good then kissed her on both cheeks and forehead. There's a video on stage
Same. I also don’t understand why in the next few lines say we plotted on you for a week. His camp who plotted on Kendrick to give him fake intel are at the same time clowns? Also he got the story of mother I sober wrong. Kendrick wasn’t molested, his mother was and she didn’t believe him when he said he wasn’t molested. YOU LIED!!!!
I think there's a separator there: the people that Kendrick got the rat and pedo allegations from were clowns (probably also a dig at Metro and Weeknd) THEN he starts talking about how the ovo mole and second child were his setup
If true, why didn't Drake spring the trap? He was supposed to expose the mole or how the news was fabricated. Now it's just he say she say, except the public thinks he might actually be a pedo with all the videos circulating. Horrible lie or horrible execution..
And that’s what makes him look like he lost. Bc he was taunting him on social media and with two songs. Talking about he scared to come outside. Now Kendrick won’t go inside and now he begging him to stop lol. Wait ain’t this what you wanted? He tried to paint the narrative that Kendrick wasn’t prepared for war and that just doesn’t make any sense why he would do that. Now he don’t know what to do and is tired. He just got off tour so he prob is tired. Meanwhile Kendrick is well rested and got all the time in the world for this lol.
If you’re that much of a mastermind you’ll have a grand reveal track where it’s beyond doubt, a real clowning, immediately stepping on Kendrick’s track and the damaging accusations. You don’t make an IG post. The angle about projection and how he references it isnt hitting and he’s wide open to get bombed on again just as he got dissected over the slavery line. Drake is brand sensitive, doesn’t speak on political matters, and walks a fine line….. you don’t play with this stuff you step on it and not this clumsily if you were capable. This indicates scrambling.
This comment hits the nail on the head! Drake is exhausted, in disbelief that this is happening to him. His Ego led him to learning a valuable lesson. Do not underestimate your opponent. You have to be OUT OF YOUR MIND to underestimate KENDRICK LAMAR
Whitney is a private person, just as Kendrick.. Her identity and social media was a mystery for years anyway. (Similar to Cole's wife/family) I'm not surprised that she's not speaking on this. Her brother has publicly supported Kendrick through this whole battle too. I enjoyed The Heart Part 6 but mainly because I respect the angle. Bow out gracefully in a way that leaves the public speculating 🤷🏾♀️ All in all Kendrick won over the culture, shared his bars with double and triple meanings, and beat Drake at his own internet game. Nobody expected that and I think that should be applauded, same as Drake's move.
That's not true bro, she has been since 2021 on social media with her kids and photos of k dot and her. She works in make up industry so how is she Private?
@@abdit31712021 vs 2010s when Kendrick became a mainstream artist... but that's irrelevant. Also, private doesn't mean she's "living in secret" lol. Private as in she doesn't post personal things, videos talking to followers, etc.
@@abdit3171 Kendrick doesn't even post on social media lol so why should she follow him? She doesn't need IG to find him. We have no info on any domestic violence between Kendrick and Whitney but we do know that OVO has some shady stuff going on.
@@abdit3171 just because you post pics of your family, and walk in the industry doesn't mean you're not private is she talking all over the Internet or media?
I saw that B sharp is the same thing as C major, and that the most prominent minor chord for C major is actually A minor, so it’s funny that Drake used that line in the song because K Dot’s diss is still potent in that bar
A minor is the "relative minor" of C major. I don't think Drake did that on purpose, but if he did, that would be a really dope music nerd/theory bar. Lol The relative Minor is like the flip of a Major key. It has all of the same pitches, but starts at a different place and thus creates a different tone. This would be an amazing flip. Again...I highly doubt he did this on purpose. Especially since he then starts talking about Db (D flat), because that pitch is not in the key of C (or A minor) at all lol That whole scheme was nasty though.
As a trained pianist, I would slap the person notating a C as a B#. Even if you were writing a Ab major phrase in the key of E major (where B# would technically kinda make sense), the third of the Ab would be noted as C(with a natural sign to cancel the C#).
@@RobMarkman Well.. I don't know what else Drake could've done here. He was pushed into a corner and twitter is still clowning him. You could tell Drake dropped this response for damage control, he's essentially stuck on defense. He's proven here that all of this bothers him, and usually when you show the media that something is bothering you, the trolling gets worse. Not that he had any other choice anyways though. If Kendrick drops another 6 minute diss, It's overkill. But all Drake was able to do here was clown Kendrick for saying he's got a daughter. As far as the pedo accusations? And people in his camp being tied to assault chargers? He can't get away from that. Kendrick won the people.
@RobMarkman I would agree he shot himself on the foot!! Reasons being is, drake got Kendrick Lamar’s mother I sober out of context, then saying the b sharp line, which is not good cuz there’s no such thing as b sharp!! 😂 finally drake said he and his team were the ones who fed Kendrick the information about himself but there’s no proof!?! No calls!?! No dms and etc!! Finally I just felt like drake just double down on everything!!
Rob I truly appreciate your analysis and your objective approach. It is grounded as an emcee, journalist and human being. Even the fact that you broke down the real details of Mother I Sober but still acknowledged the angle’s usefulness. Plus you still gave all the props on the wordplay. You might be the most fair and thorough I’ve seen.
A big issue for me with this beef. Is that both of these dudes leaned way too heavily on the already pre established social media narratives. In the end you could basically predict what they would say because most of their "tea" was stuff that was already being discussed on the timeliness. So what started off creative and interesting, became a competition on who could throw out the most salacious allegations.
Just because some of these narratives live on Social Media does mean it's not from real life. Y'all forget that the world is bigger than Social media, plus most of what you find on there is actually from real life.
If drake planted the info for kendrick to bite why would he not reveal that on Friday night after Meet the Grahams dropped? it would have shut it down so hard, but waiting 3 days to reveal that and without proof of planting it? seems weird.
And if the picture of the things was photoshopped, why did it get removed from DSPs as in it was reported…If not your meds why would you (allegedly) strike the photo !? It’s giving cap!
He denied the child instantly and TMZ (who reported about Adonis before he was born) confirmed he doesn’t have a child. Also he dropped Friday night, disproved the child by saturday morning & dropped a response to both tracks by Sunday ? that’s 2 days max lol
@@3ptvisuals210 I'm not saying he didn't deny the child. I'm saying if you really fed Kendrick the information why didn't you reveal THAT the night of. Instead of saying "someone show me my daughter" why wouldn't he say "kendrick fell for the bait" and proof that they baited him into the response
@@V1ndy he literally did, today. the pace you all are expecting “response” tracks is insane, K Dot didn’t respond to anything, just dropped another diss. Drake also never said when he gave the info, so he wouldn’t have known when or even if Kendrick would use it until the song dropped? come on gang, clear the bias and think logically.
@@V1ndy & if you mean why he didnt just say “i planted it”, why make that whole chess move just to say it on IG when your in a heated rap battle when you can use that info in a song.
I think Drake is bowing out, Kenny is relentless...a week ago people said Kenny was on the clock, he definitely dropped a nuclear bomb this weekend, when everythings done, Meet The Grahams will be the stand out record.
excessive obsessive progressive recessive... "great rhyme scheme" 😭 Its like well done drake we know you are trying your best at school with no help today, look at you go! Heres a sticker ⭐️ Good boy!
I haven’t watched the breakdown yet, but my first thoughts listening to this track was: if Drake really was playing 4D chess and gave false info to kdot why wouldn’t he instantly post receipts of those texts, screenshots, or recordings of him planning this whole scheme? I would’ve had my response ready and posted immediately after meet the grahams. The heart 6 felt rushed and boring sonically. Also, if I were him I’d make the receipts of me planting fake info the cover art for the diss track. I feel like we’re being gaslit by Drake cause he himself said he doesn’t wanna diss Kendrick no more lol
He’s sounds defeated and like he’s saving face, bowing out with enough room for speculation but I’m afraid it’s not enough🤷🏾♀…Atp, I just know Kendrick not letting his foot off the gas, we got 4 songs in 36 hrs It’s not ending on this coping a plea energy
This was an interesting release. I think meet the grahams really stepped on drakes family matters release, which was very well done from the bars to the visuals. Then Kendrick dropped not like us and it was a complete bop. I think Drake felt he couldn’t let Kendrick have a hit song out so long without a response and rushed this release. I think it was the first misstep from either artist. It seems most people said either drake or Kendrick were ahead based on who released latest, until this drop. I feel drake really felt he had a killshot with his info in family matters. This track felt rushed, defensive and lacked an offensive attack. Unless Drake is sitting on more info, Kendrick has a chance to put it away if he comes out with a hard ass track.
Drake said he fed the story that the girl is 11 years old, Kendrick never said she was 11 years old, he just said Drake missed her 11th birthday, that makes me doubt Drake's angle already.
There’s a bar drake said”the ones you got your info from is clowns too” then proceeds to say I leaked the info on purpose. Drake is on defense this whole song his energy ain’t adding up to his words. When you think about it,it really was his only plausible defense from his position. I honestly was disappointed for a song like this was his follow up track
@@assahwayo1790 No, I've listened to it various times, and I just had to explain it to someone on Twitter, these are the lyrics Should be teachin’ you timetables or watchin’ Frozen with you Or at your 11th birthday, singin’ poems with you Instead, he be in Turks, payin’ for sex and poppin’ Percs He never said she was 11 years old, he just said Drake missed her 11th birthday party.
@@Mrdachi87Bruh that's saying the girl is 11. Whether if she is 9, 11, or 13 he would use her current age since drake has never been in her life. Kendrick is speaking to the now. Its common sense.
In my opinion the winner of these raps battles is often the person who shifted the perception about their opponent . I feel Kendrick definitely shifted perception about Drake more than the other way around. .
What’s good Mark! I am new to your “podcast” haha but it is great and refreshing. Your approach to the rap game is respectable, insightful, and comes from a familiar place. In our culture, especially rap, it’s easy to fall into celebritas, and throw humanity by the wayside. Keep doing what you do fr, your voice is needed. You gained a new follower.
Kendrick forced Drake into a defensive position with "meet the grahams" and "not like us", regardless of the truth. While Drake's empathetic approach with “the heart part 6” was compelling, it was more of a face-saving act. Drake might wait for Kendrick's response before immediately releasing a stronger track, but if he doesn't have career-ending information on Kendrick, he might as well just take the L and weasel his way out of the fight. Kendrick beating his wife and being cuckolded just isn't enough to win. On a side note, I find it surprising that people are shocked about the Drake tea; I always assumed it was common knowledge, and we collectively turned a blind eye to it because his music was good.
You wouldn't! Drake is scrambling around to save face and this track was a PR move which will be followed by a barrage of legal letters to Kendrick's estate. I BET YA!
What I love about this channel is that Rob actually LISTENS! He’s never bias and he holds artists accountable. He doesn’t hear one lyric and say, “Oh yall he telling the truth!” He goes off facts and truly critiques the art, the substance, the lyrics, etc. You the goat with this reaction stuff. The other guys pick sides and change their mind with each diss. You keep it real every time!!! You’re the first one I’ve seen not take Drake side when he stated he planted the information, you broke it down and explained it could be either or. Salute for being genuine and looking at every possible angle!
Thanks for the late drop Rob, I'm not buying the intentionally leaking of information, his behaviour doesn't align with it. Why immediately responding on Instagram if you had a song already prep'd for it.
when it comes to the setup and moles .. it's possible dot did have moles in the ovo camp but drake knew and fed them false info .. clarifying why kendrick would claim having the moles but also why drake would say they're clowns .
@@dcnats92 i don't think it's true , i just think that's what drake was alluding to .. these guys really want us to believe they're on some game of thrones / oceans 11 level espionage type of stuff when really they're just gossiping, namecalling, & throwing around allegations and accusations they both seen on the internet 😂
@@tajmirb.8979 loll that’s how I’m playing it. Both sides lying…and in that case, great effort from both sides but Kendrick dogwalked Drake in strategy and timing
but they must not be really clowns IF they told him about family matters. Kendrick responded to that record right away. I'm not use I think drake might have multiple moles and some are telling him the truth
Yo Rob, phenomenal job my brother. Here’s the thing by Drake dropping the heart part six he takes wind out of his drop and the title for his roll out. If he’s dropping an album his roll out has to change to be effective.
So lemme get this straight…..Drake told Kendrick that he (Drake)was sexual predator and that he had sexual predators working for him but then pulled a uno reverse card and said “HA, it was a lie”? Is that the hill you’re gonna die on?
I think Drake WANTS it to be over..he doesn't really have anything else to say to Kendrick at this point..its sounds like hes tappin out,and Kendrick sounds like hes turning up..But The only way i think Kenrick should drop again is if he has a new angle to expose.,Otherwise i think we can call it
How on earth did he plant this info but didn’t immediately stop receipts once KDOT released Meet the Grahams? That would have killed his momentum and made perfect sense to continue this track but he waited how long to try and change the narrative? Also the man said “I knew you’d play on the Weinstein angle” and that’s so weird to me because why would you even think someone would go there with you unless you already got allegations and if you know, he definitely has been moving weird with teen girls for a long time. Multiple times of him being in girls dms and texting both Millie Bobbie Brown and Billy Eillish when they were younger and telling them stuff like he missed them. Why you talking to a 14 year old about boys as an outsider to her family? Would you let a grown ass 30 year old man talk to your daughter about boys??? Or would you load up the switch in this dude?? Let’s be honest he’s been moving weird for years and it’s catching up to him. He can say it’s not true but the only reason ppl talking about it is because you have a video out there of you kissing on a 17 year old girl on stage and then calling her thicc??! Not to mention the picture of him hugged on a child that had just turned 18 who he knew since she was like 12. He’s supposed to be a family friend. Now would you be hugged up on a child you knew for that many years at her birthday when you 30 plus?? And when I say hugged up it looked exactly how you would think. You can say there’s no “proof” but other than a video of him having sex with a minor what more do you want? He put himself in this position and has already crossed so many boundaries. Ppl just giving it a pass because they like him but those excuses wouldn’t fly if it were your child. Pu yourself in that position before you say there isn’t enough to make a call. The man at the very least doesn’t understand boundaries as a grown ass man. And at the most he kissed a child on stage and then when he found out she was young he said he had fun. That’s some of y’all’s GOAT right there smh. Also none of yall have proven he doesn’t have a daughter??? Just because he said it you believe that? He also said he melted down Pharrell’s chains right? He also lied about Adonis the first time? What else is he lying about??? 😂
I really enjoyed hearing you break all this down in a fair and non-sensationalist way. Thank you. I think Drake lost though. Just because the people don’t believe him and he’s getting clowned. Metro got civilians on Twitter and sound cloud making their own diss records. The internet is closing Drake and that’s usually where he thrives.
Hindsight is 20/20 but if you’re feeding information, I would have taking a video of planting the information, especially the items Kendrick used as the cover art on 6:16 in LA & Meet the Grahams. Neither have shown receipts for their accusations. But they’re both rapping their asses off. Question though… Hit Em Up is considered one of the best diss tracks, right? Was it ever proven during the beef that PAC actually slept with Faith? Like you said before, lies are baked in diss tracks and rappers are master liars in these diss track. It’s all about the angles and delivery.
Same I said, Faith denies sleeping with Tupac so it’s never been confirmed. Nas called Jay Z gay, never been confirmed. Only recently are people asking for proof before a diss is won.
Drake kissed a 17yo, commented "finally, ive been waiting 🥵" on millie browns 18bday post, after being a 30+ year old texting her and seeing her since she was 14. Had a lyric abkut a girls highschool pics were sexy. He forsure a creep. If it act and look like one it probably is lol
He also met a 16 year old model and then when she turned 18 bought out a restaurant for her birthday. There’s pictures of when they met and pictures of their date on her 18th birthday. I can believe he thinks nothing is wrong with talking to underage girls and not officially being sexual with them/dating them until they’re 18. That way he can say it’s not illegal. But to me that’s grooming and weirdo behavior. I had to realize guys would prey on me like that from the time I was 13, they would always be in their 20s and say they “just wanted to be friends” but would make comments or want to see me at night. That’s weirdo behavior. Thankfully my mom and dad got me hip and told me that’s not right when they saw me with an older guy. I’m sorry, even texting a 14 year old Millie Bobby Brown when you’re over 30 is weird af, I don’t care if it’s not sexual.
I just imagine rob chilling trying to watch the play offs and then all of a sudden Drake or Kendrick drop and he has to pull him self off of the couch, find the fitted,chain and the fresh t-shirt just to post one of these joints. Salute to rob with the quality unbiased reviews..
This one feels like damage control Rob, it’s a lot of caption bars in there, that’s what he’s good at but if Drake really fed Dot that info, he rapping with his chest poked out. He wants outta this one while he still can
The line that’s confusing y’all if you listen closely he’s saying it’s clowns feeding him stories about snitching allegations. And his mole is feeding him story about 11 year old daughter. Moral of the story is basically drake is saying learn to fact check things before you go to putting them in your raps.
Bruh that sounds good but if Drake had 18 kids I wouldn’t give a damn all that other shit is true the homeboy went to jail on some weirdo shit and Drake on stage doing some weirdo ish and has been doing weirdo ish period I mean I like the nigga music to but damn you glazing for Drake shit 😂
For me, MTG hits not because of the daughter stuff, but the discussion at the end. “Why believe you, you never gave us nothing to believe in” Drake’s been strategically playing chess with the culture his whole career. Kendrick got fooled, but he brought up a bunch more to talk about, and now the debate is starting again centered around Drake’s spot in the culture. Drake now has to prove again that he really belongs
Why not let Kendrick dig his own hole deeper? I honestly think Drake let the cat out the bag early if true. He seems to be walking away as a self declared winner, but let’s be honest, Kendrick is going to send something back. For those using the MCU Infinity-war analogy; maybe we entered the Endgame.
Kendrick bias but I feel this is an objective opinion. Even if Drake planted the info and it's confirmed with receipts, the venom and initial shock that Meet the Grahams had compared to Family Matters was decisive. It's like, Drake's character was so marred and he was painted as a deadbeat so much already (Story of Adidon, Euphoria, and Not Like Us) that him not having a daughter doesn't dismiss the doubt on Drake's shortcomings as a parent.
i like watching your reviews. you have a different style than most. no games just reactions and breakdowns 💪🏼 also that mac miller plaque is dope. i just got hired at ID Labs in Pittsburgh and it’s sick seeing all his plaques on the wall. Blessings 🙏🏼
To be called a master manipulator in euphoria and then for drake to end with saying i tricked you 🤔 which means Kendrick was ahead of the manipulation? Rob i need yo thoughts this doesn't seem like drake was in control at all
I appreciate your videos so much. And I know you don’t want it to be true about Drake. But he’s had countless encounters with underage girls, kissing them, flirting, communication. He’s done this with several female celebrities when they were under the age of 18 and with his fans. It’s documented through text, social media post , pictures, videos, and his lyrics. Also if it were true that he seeks young girls only as long as they are 18, the only thing that changes is the legality but morally it’s still predator. Just because something is legal doesn’t make it right. He’s a master manipulator, a predator and he flirts with teenage girls publicly because he knows people won’t care if you like his music.
@@RobMarkman stats show that the courts fail victims of abuse majority of the time. Also we have seen too often how celebrities have escaped court for their actions. Look how long it took to get R Kelly and we seen videos of his acts. As long predators have a circle of supporters they can continue with predatory behavior. I know you just want the courts to handle but they say rarely comes, and not to mention how difficult if not impossible it is to prove I court that you’ve been SA’d. I was a huge fan of Drake because I loved Degrassi so you can imagine how ecstatic I was when he became a big star in the US, I stopped being a fan of Drake after I came across his post and videos of his interactions with underage girls.
I wouldn't want you To put you in a bad position but have seen The video with drake where the young lady said she was 17 and he proceed to say things he had no businesses saying about her body , if that was one of yo friends would you still rock with them???
@@leightonslang Yall hate to give that man credit for anything and willing to give kendrick credit for anything lol.. actin like yall wouldn't be pissed with the whole internet calling you a fuckin pedo 🙄
I feel like if this was a actual battle and drake went last and spit this track as a battle rap fan it wouldve had the room shocked . This record is like a third round verse in a battle. Very well crafted.
You're the only UA-camr that is keeping it unbiased Rob, everyone else is either Drake or Kendrick stan. I still think family matters is one of the hardest disses I ever heard, but Kendrick won the crowd and it's gonna be hard for Drake to come back. Either way, I respect Drake for not backing down.
Ok so I am to believe that Drake spoon fed all of that information from Meet The Grahams to Kendrick so that Kendrick would make the most haunting rap song in the history of rap about Drake’s family 20 minutes after Drake releases a song about Kendrick’s family? And I am to believe that this brilliant double jeopardy plan didn’t involve Drake having a song ready to release back at Kendrick 10 minutes after said song to inform him that everything he just said was fed to him? Instead I am to believe that Drake’s brilliant plan involved waiting 2 days so that Kendrick could drop a diabolical club scorcher for the holiday weekend and then reveal to him 2 nights later that it was all a lie fed to him? In the words of JayZ: …okay
Something’s up, but I think Kendrick will acknowledge it and can either confirm he got played, or reveal some more details that it’s true. Low key think drake is trying to throw him off the scent.
It’s like… if that’s true, why didn’t you spend time just making better songs?
I second that okay
I think you're not giving Kendrick and Drake credit here. He dropped not like us and took the attention from meet the Grahams. If Drake dropped this after it would get drowned. It's not going to go up against a club banger with rapidy rap song. Both of them are beeing strategic.
You believe e everything dot spoon feeds you I don't see why not
If Drake ACTUALLY planted this information , his tone would be a lot more light hearted and more “the jokes on you”, rather than annoyed and emotional. Also he would have dropped instantly, like Kendrick did. That would have killed the buzz of Kendricks last few tracks right way. He’s lyin, it’s mid to me.
I hear you, but that's hard to say about his tone.
I don’t think you’re right. He may have planted the info, he alluded to it in family matter. The pic speaks for itself; and the fact that Kendrick doesn’t have that pic on streaming. Analyze it, it’s too coincidental. The shirt is a shortee shirt(Kendrick diss), mmg and ozempic(Ross)etc. That’s too coincidental.
And I don’t think he would have dropped instantly, because then Kendrick doubled on Difffent angle because he probs realized that angle was no use. So when Kendrick dropped that song, he had to address those, which takes time
@@RobMarkmancome on his tone was off also who says in the battle at the end it was worthy bcz it’s Kendrick and he said some weird stuff about him being a pedo! He’s to famous to be doing that meanwhile R Kelly is in jail n WEINSTEIN!
@@leandroportillo1234😂all will soon be revealed 😂
This battle became next level, weird, lit again, and then weird again in the span of like 36 hours.
facts lol
@@RobMarkman can feel the energy start to leave some of these conversations… people just want the truth and an ending now
@@avantikor360
The truth is both these guys are imperfect human beings and Kendrick is the better rapper. That is all.
Drake keep making it weird lol
@@geekylove3603💯
Rob, homie, you one of like 3 people in media looking at this whole beef in an unbiased way, acknowledging when either of them drop bars, and waiting for actual proof
Thank you, you a real one G
I try.
Unbiased? You must be a Drake fan.
This was the first record that came out of this whole back and forth that felt rushed and not up to caliber.
Claims they set up Kendrick with the bait then called the people who gave him the info clowns? Lmao
Sounds like cope tbh. He went from “drop drop” to “I’m over this beef!” Realllyyyyy quickly
The Flop Part 6
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@@Jimmyjones151he’s alluding to feeding information to unreliable people in his camp.
Cope, this the best one.
Drake Sounds wounded & slowly trying to make his way outta the battlefield...
Rob you understand the culture and why they want him gone. The Atlanta stuff he referenced in the ‘not like us’ is why. It’s not like Em who come up in Detroit local scene doing open mics and cyphers. Someone who deferred to and revered hiphop icons when he come in. His music pointed at the hypocrisy of white America constantly. He made an anti Iraq war song in 2004 - when he had everything to lose and a white audience. He understood his place in hiphop and privilege and what’s expected. Can you imagine him walking around with pacs rings on? Drake has leaned into commercialism in a way that’s seen as harmful and disrespectful in recent years. This isn’t mean spirited… the culture let this shit slide and he was an outsider lacking insight. He flexes his commercial power on his peers.
🔥 Has anyone noticed Drake rapping that Kendrick disclosed he was molested on a song is a LIE? He’s misquoting Kendrick and confirming that he’s a liar. 💯
They both telling lies, it's a rap battle you tell enough truth so that people will believe the shit that's not, or plant that seed so at least they believe it's possible.
@@moxmann Sure, but if you're smart, you don't lie about something that people can listen to the song and determine that you're a liar or just dumb.
@@erica_em In today's time people will rather believe a lie than the truth. The lie is more entertaining. People hear a lie and Go Facts!
@@erica_em Why do think Trump lies so often. Because he's figured out his supporters are not concerned with the truth.
Drake got the Lawyers to ghost write this one
"i wouldnt look at a teenager twice"... oh ok 😂
😂😂
He needs better lawyers
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@sillynamereally “the predator” only looks once. Basically he one night stands em 💀 who are drakes ghost writers ?! 👻 ✍️
What are they doing ?? Feel like they setting him up
I find it interesting and strange that he would bring up Millie Bobby Brown, Dot never said anything about her. Is he rebutting on what social media has been pointing out? Why bring that up?
His tone doesn't give "sike I got yah!" It's giving defeated...
You clearly never listened to Drake lol he has the same exact tone Dot has on meet the Grahams
Bruh better check those ears 😂😂😂
@@JGRG07 do you understand creativity? kendrick is rapping from a monotone voice because he was sitting Drake down therapy style and speaking with his family 1 on 1. Drake on the other hand sounds defeated and tired. Ask yourself this, if you knew all along that you fed Kendrick false information, why after the Kendrick track where he revealed those things about drake, why would you call him a liar in your ig story? Wouldn’t you be happy that he took the bait and wouldn’t you rub it in his face with proof?
@swaggtomaxx1 trueee and if they used someone to play Mole and feed false information he should have called out the fake Mole by name on track so Kdot could know that he knows exactly who Kdot was speaking to and being fed false information by. It doesnt take too much to connect the dots but people gonna choose to be ignorant minded for the sake of their pop star queen
@@JonathanCavazos-mb5hn this culture aint for them anyways. The real recognize real. Its always been that way since the beginning of their beef. We knew who was real in 2013
Drake even MENTIONING Whitney is already inviting Kendrick to respond. He’s not letting that slide
KENDRICK GOTTA COME CORRECT. ASWER THOSE ALLEGATIONS DIRECTLY. NONE OF THAT CODE RAP BS LOL.
@@jonsnow300he’s been direct the whole battle so I’d be shocked if he addresses it in cod. I feel like his answer would be direct.
He has let it slide twice bro
Drake is dead out here 😂
Kendrick mentioned that Drake is similar to Weinstein fuck the battle at this point . You can’t just say anything , if Drake is similar to him he needs to be locked up and the evidence needs to be publicized. If dot was just capping on all of that I can’t condone that
I don't believe either of them rn, but when it comes to battling, especially with how personal this has become, it's about ruining your opponent's reputation, and Kendrick is winning in that department.
And if I recall, Drake dissed Rick Ross for using Ozempic. Why would he send Kendrick a picture with an Ozempic prescription with his name on it. This looks like damage control.
😂😂
The strange thing he claimed Rick Ross used another prescription drug.. Mounjaro
So wouldn’t it be more on the nose if he put that in the case?
Ozempic, the Mayback Music glove…idk
@@mr.brooks9802the Ozempic has Drake’s name on it though
@@iampadrino I'm still questioning if Drake planted that; he could be lying. However, whoever gave Kendrick that does look like a troll attempt? Ozempic and Maybach glove look like a dig at Ross. The biggest thing that looks like someone was trolling Kendrick was the shirt that read "shortie," which looks like an apparent dig at Kendrick's height. I'm not sold on Drake being behind this, but it does look like someone trolled Dot and gave him bad intel.
It sounds like a good crisis team told Drake, "End this now and deny it all!" Drake said, "I'm too famous for this" then he went on to say, "If he was a PDF where is the paperwork?" And who would feed anyone information on being a pdf🤔 It isn't hitting correctly... something is missing in this diss... it does have a few good bars.
Exactly trying to play it safe
He didn’t say that lmao he’s addressing a snitch allegation
He wrote it himself maybe.
not like us sounds like kendrick was like " uhhh fuccc quicc mustard put a beat on to distract them !" ovhoooeeeeeeeee
It isnt hitting for you cus you heard it wrong lol you mixin shit up
rob’s a legend for keeping up this quick. every time a new song drops im thinking about his breakdowns
That’s dope
I like this record. But the angle from Meet the Graham's stuck with me, “Why believe you/you never gave us anything to believe in” followed by a ton of things he lied about. Makes it hard to trust without confirmation anything Drake says. And for all this to happen with Free and Kendrick still committed to do business with him, doesn’t feel believable. Maybe it’s true. But it’s a tougher angle to set.
I’m logging out for a week to see if Drake survives I’m so overwhelmed.
YOOOOO it's A LOT lol
Protect your peace!
of course he survives - it will be handled, business as usual, just watch- emergency team will prepare all statements needed, lawyers will prepare all settlements needed, some paid influencers and rappers will give him the support needed. Then he will be interviewed as needed and say some emotional shit needed (he shouldn’t let Kendrick provoke that beef, he’s working on that for the future). All this corporate bullshit the masses are eager to believe in.
lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Same...
He also kissed a girl, asked her age she said she's underage, and he proceeded to call her thick, say it felt good then kissed her on both cheeks and forehead. There's a video on stage
That he liked how her breasts felt….after she told him
Kiss her on the lips too
And lips dont fall short of the whole truth
This is important. Rob should at least acknowledge this is maybe not fire but smoke and it’s clearly out there and public
@@Zero-tc3xuExactly. I don't like that Rob won't acknowledge this fact. What are you scared of Rob?
I don’t understand why he would call the “fake” moles clowns
yeah i had a question there
When he said his own people gave em the misinformation 😅
Bro, do you all not listen? He planted the mole for the daughter thing, the clowns line has to do with the pdf thing and other stuff
Same. I also don’t understand why in the next few lines say we plotted on you for a week. His camp who plotted on Kendrick to give him fake intel are at the same time clowns?
Also he got the story of mother I sober wrong. Kendrick wasn’t molested, his mother was and she didn’t believe him when he said he wasn’t molested.
YOU LIED!!!!
I think there's a separator there: the people that Kendrick got the rat and pedo allegations from were clowns (probably also a dig at Metro and Weeknd) THEN he starts talking about how the ovo mole and second child were his setup
If true, why didn't Drake spring the trap? He was supposed to expose the mole or how the news was fabricated.
Now it's just he say she say, except the public thinks he might actually be a pedo with all the videos circulating. Horrible lie or horrible execution..
Drake lying like a mf. 😂
And we all know it 😭😭😭
And we all know it 😭😭😭😂
@@lovelyla85 not all of us. his stans cant fathom it lol but the real ones know
@@fresnoniiji she talking about the culture not the fan boys they'll never change they mind
Drakes energy dropped every round! He went from daring Kendrick to drop to begging him to stop! Now he's gonna drop one more just to finish him.
And that’s what makes him look like he lost. Bc he was taunting him on social media and with two songs. Talking about he scared to come outside. Now Kendrick won’t go inside and now he begging him to stop lol. Wait ain’t this what you wanted? He tried to paint the narrative that Kendrick wasn’t prepared for war and that just doesn’t make any sense why he would do that. Now he don’t know what to do and is tired. He just got off tour so he prob is tired. Meanwhile Kendrick is well rested and got all the time in the world for this lol.
If you’re that much of a mastermind you’ll have a grand reveal track where it’s beyond doubt, a real clowning, immediately stepping on Kendrick’s track and the damaging accusations. You don’t make an IG post. The angle about projection and how he references it isnt hitting and he’s wide open to get bombed on again just as he got dissected over the slavery line. Drake is brand sensitive, doesn’t speak on political matters, and walks a fine line….. you don’t play with this stuff you step on it and not this clumsily if you were capable. This indicates scrambling.
This comment hits the nail on the head! Drake is exhausted, in disbelief that this is happening to him. His Ego led him to learning a valuable lesson. Do not underestimate your opponent. You have to be OUT OF YOUR MIND to underestimate KENDRICK LAMAR
Whitney is a private person, just as Kendrick.. Her identity and social media was a mystery for years anyway. (Similar to Cole's wife/family) I'm not surprised that she's not speaking on this. Her brother has publicly supported Kendrick through this whole battle too.
I enjoyed The Heart Part 6 but mainly because I respect the angle. Bow out gracefully in a way that leaves the public speculating 🤷🏾♀️ All in all Kendrick won over the culture, shared his bars with double and triple meanings, and beat Drake at his own internet game. Nobody expected that and I think that should be applauded, same as Drake's move.
That's not true bro, she has been since 2021 on social media with her kids and photos of k dot and her. She works in make up industry so how is she Private?
@@abdit31712021 vs 2010s when Kendrick became a mainstream artist... but that's irrelevant. Also, private doesn't mean she's "living in secret" lol. Private as in she doesn't post personal things, videos talking to followers, etc.
@@abdit3171 Kendrick doesn't even post on social media lol so why should she follow him? She doesn't need IG to find him. We have no info on any domestic violence between Kendrick and Whitney but we do know that OVO has some shady stuff going on.
@@abdit3171 just because you post pics of your family, and walk in the industry doesn't mean you're not private is she talking all over the Internet or media?
@sim.
That should be it but Ken will want a total victory.
I saw that B sharp is the same thing as C major, and that the most prominent minor chord for C major is actually A minor, so it’s funny that Drake used that line in the song because K Dot’s diss is still potent in that bar
A minor is the "relative minor" of C major. I don't think Drake did that on purpose, but if he did, that would be a really dope music nerd/theory bar. Lol
The relative Minor is like the flip of a Major key. It has all of the same pitches, but starts at a different place and thus creates a different tone. This would be an amazing flip.
Again...I highly doubt he did this on purpose. Especially since he then starts talking about Db (D flat), because that pitch is not in the key of C (or A minor) at all lol
That whole scheme was nasty though.
Yh but no one says B Sharp
As a trained pianist, I would slap the person notating a C as a B#. Even if you were writing a Ab major phrase in the key of E major (where B# would technically kinda make sense), the third of the Ab would be noted as C(with a natural sign to cancel the C#).
@@Braillionaire why do u underestimate drake ?
music theory beef let’s goooo
I think Drake just shot himself on the foot with this one...
why do you think that? Im just curious on your thoughts?
@@RobMarkman Well.. I don't know what else Drake could've done here. He was pushed into a corner and twitter is still clowning him. You could tell Drake dropped this response for damage control, he's essentially stuck on defense. He's proven here that all of this bothers him, and usually when you show the media that something is bothering you, the trolling gets worse. Not that he had any other choice anyways though.
If Kendrick drops another 6 minute diss, It's overkill. But all Drake was able to do here was clown Kendrick for saying he's got a daughter. As far as the pedo accusations? And people in his camp being tied to assault chargers? He can't get away from that. Kendrick won the people.
@@godoftsukuyomi7480 you might be right.
@@RobMarkman D made ya = D major
@RobMarkman I would agree he shot himself on the foot!! Reasons being is, drake got Kendrick Lamar’s mother I sober out of context, then saying the b sharp line, which is not good cuz there’s no such thing as b sharp!! 😂 finally drake said he and his team were the ones who fed Kendrick the information about himself but there’s no proof!?! No calls!?! No dms and etc!! Finally I just felt like drake just double down on everything!!
Waited patiently for Rob’s thoughts!
Thank you!!!
Rob I truly appreciate your analysis and your objective approach. It is grounded as an emcee, journalist and human being. Even the fact that you broke down the real details of Mother I Sober but still acknowledged the angle’s usefulness. Plus you still gave all the props on the wordplay. You might be the most fair and thorough I’ve seen.
A lot of good wordplay on here. Salute to you
A big issue for me with this beef. Is that both of these dudes leaned way too heavily on the already pre established social media narratives.
In the end you could basically predict what they would say because most of their "tea" was stuff that was already being discussed on the timeliness.
So what started off creative and interesting, became a competition on who could throw out the most salacious allegations.
Just because some of these narratives live on Social Media does mean it's not from real life. Y'all forget that the world is bigger than Social media, plus most of what you find on there is actually from real life.
If drake planted the info for kendrick to bite why would he not reveal that on Friday night after Meet the Grahams dropped? it would have shut it down so hard, but waiting 3 days to reveal that and without proof of planting it? seems weird.
And if the picture of the things was photoshopped, why did it get removed from DSPs as in it was reported…If not your meds why would you (allegedly) strike the photo !? It’s giving cap!
He denied the child instantly and TMZ (who reported about Adonis before he was born) confirmed he doesn’t have a child.
Also he dropped Friday night, disproved the child by saturday morning & dropped a response to both tracks by Sunday ? that’s 2 days max lol
@@3ptvisuals210 I'm not saying he didn't deny the child. I'm saying if you really fed Kendrick the information why didn't you reveal THAT the night of. Instead of saying "someone show me my daughter" why wouldn't he say "kendrick fell for the bait" and proof that they baited him into the response
@@V1ndy he literally did, today. the pace you all are expecting “response” tracks is insane, K Dot didn’t respond to anything, just dropped another diss.
Drake also never said when he gave the info, so he wouldn’t have known when or even if Kendrick would use it until the song dropped? come on gang, clear the bias and think logically.
@@V1ndy & if you mean why he didnt just say “i planted it”, why make that whole chess move just to say it on IG when your in a heated rap battle when you can use that info in a song.
I think Drake is bowing out, Kenny is relentless...a week ago people said Kenny was on the clock, he definitely dropped a nuclear bomb this weekend, when everythings done, Meet The Grahams will be the stand out record.
By far the most balanced voice throughout this whole rap beef, we appreciate you Rob 🙏👏
Thank you for being objective rob
I try!!
excessive obsessive progressive recessive... "great rhyme scheme" 😭 Its like well done drake we know you are trying your best at school with no help today, look at you go! Heres a sticker ⭐️ Good boy!
I haven’t watched the breakdown yet, but my first thoughts listening to this track was: if Drake really was playing 4D chess and gave false info to kdot why wouldn’t he instantly post receipts of those texts, screenshots, or recordings of him planning this whole scheme? I would’ve had my response ready and posted immediately after meet the grahams. The heart 6 felt rushed and boring sonically. Also, if I were him I’d make the receipts of me planting fake info the cover art for the diss track.
I feel like we’re being gaslit by Drake cause he himself said he doesn’t wanna diss Kendrick no more lol
He’s sounds defeated and like he’s saving face, bowing out with enough room for speculation but I’m afraid it’s not enough🤷🏾♀…Atp, I just know Kendrick not letting his foot off the gas, we got 4 songs in 36 hrs It’s not ending on this coping a plea energy
appreciate the ongoing consistent respectful & unbiased analysis 🖤
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This was an interesting release. I think meet the grahams really stepped on drakes family matters release, which was very well done from the bars to the visuals. Then Kendrick dropped not like us and it was a complete bop. I think Drake felt he couldn’t let Kendrick have a hit song out so long without a response and rushed this release.
I think it was the first misstep from either artist.
It seems most people said either drake or Kendrick were ahead based on who released latest, until this drop. I feel drake really felt he had a killshot with his info in family matters. This track felt rushed, defensive and lacked an offensive attack. Unless Drake is sitting on more info, Kendrick has a chance to put it away if he comes out with a hard ass track.
It seems drake has more no dirt on kendrick
Drake said he fed the story that the girl is 11 years old, Kendrick never said she was 11 years old, he just said Drake missed her 11th birthday, that makes me doubt Drake's angle already.
Kendrick said he was 11 years. Listen to the music again smh
There’s a bar drake said”the ones you got your info from is clowns too” then proceeds to say I leaked the info on purpose. Drake is on defense this whole song his energy ain’t adding up to his words. When you think about it,it really was his only plausible defense from his position. I honestly was disappointed for a song like this was his follow up track
@@assahwayo1790 No, I've listened to it various times, and I just had to explain it to someone on Twitter, these are the lyrics
Should be teachin’ you timetables or watchin’ Frozen with you
Or at your 11th birthday, singin’ poems with you
Instead, he be in Turks, payin’ for sex and poppin’ Percs
He never said she was 11 years old, he just said Drake missed her 11th birthday party.
Yeah the internet said it. Kendrick didnt. Everything he said just sounded like a song from comments put together.
@@Mrdachi87Bruh that's saying the girl is 11. Whether if she is 9, 11, or 13 he would use her current age since drake has never been in her life. Kendrick is speaking to the now. Its common sense.
All he did in this song was do your job by recapping the whole battle 😂😂😂
Appreciate the honest breakdowns Rob, your channel is the go-to when it comes to objectivity
In my opinion the winner of these raps battles is often the person who shifted the perception about their opponent . I feel Kendrick definitely shifted perception about Drake more than the other way around. .
What’s good Mark! I am new to your “podcast” haha but it is great and refreshing. Your approach to the rap game is respectable, insightful, and comes from a familiar place. In our culture, especially rap, it’s easy to fall into celebritas, and throw humanity by the wayside. Keep doing what you do fr, your voice is needed. You gained a new follower.
I appreciate that yo. Thank you
Kendrick forced Drake into a defensive position with "meet the grahams" and "not like us", regardless of the truth. While Drake's empathetic approach with “the heart part 6” was compelling, it was more of a face-saving act. Drake might wait for Kendrick's response before immediately releasing a stronger track, but if he doesn't have career-ending information on Kendrick, he might as well just take the L and weasel his way out of the fight. Kendrick beating his wife and being cuckolded just isn't enough to win. On a side note, I find it surprising that people are shocked about the Drake tea; I always assumed it was common knowledge, and we collectively turned a blind eye to it because his music was good.
U turned a blind eye to a pedo that’s what’s wrong with people
you’re the only dude who breaks down shit without being a fucking weirdo, appreciate it 💯
why woulda plant a mole to call me a pedo.
Sounds FARFETCHED
He said he planted the 11 year old daughter information not the pedo
@@gabe2829right ! We don’t believe it. The people are with Kendrick !
You wouldn't! Drake is scrambling around to save face and this track was a PR move which will be followed by a barrage of legal letters to Kendrick's estate. I BET YA!
The plant thing was only about the fake daughter,learn how to listen to music
A lot of ppl online had the same question you did about drakes narrative (clown vs planted info). I didn’t catch that on my first listen
Yeah just a lil curious
I don’t think he planted the Snitching allegations, whoever gave Kendrick that info are “clowns”
Your breakdown is top tier..ive been watching a few other as this beef has been going dwn and urs is top tier
That means a lot. I haven’t watched anyone else’s. I’ve just been focused on what I’m doing. Thank you
What I love about this channel is that Rob actually LISTENS! He’s never bias and he holds artists accountable. He doesn’t hear one lyric and say, “Oh yall he telling the truth!” He goes off facts and truly critiques the art, the substance, the lyrics, etc. You the goat with this reaction stuff. The other guys pick sides and change their mind with each diss. You keep it real every time!!! You’re the first one I’ve seen not take Drake side when he stated he planted the information, you broke it down and explained it could be either or. Salute for being genuine and looking at every possible angle!
Drake gotta provide proof he planted the info. Otherwise he just yapping and admitting defeat.
Great breakdown. It's nice to see someone coming at this intellectually from a neutral perspective instead of just hopping on a bandwagon. Respect
I just want what’s best for the music, for us.
Thanks for the late drop Rob, I'm not buying the intentionally leaking of information, his behaviour doesn't align with it. Why immediately responding on Instagram if you had a song already prep'd for it.
Exactly, he would have let the suspense build and then reveal he made it up. But instead he immediately denied it. Very sus
@@IWAC2013 yeah it doesn't make sense, if that's your "joker" you wait to play it.
the only valid take on the internet about the song. courtesy of the best hip-hop journalist!
Salute !! Thank you
when it comes to the setup and moles .. it's possible dot did have moles in the ovo camp but drake knew and fed them false info .. clarifying why kendrick would claim having the moles but also why drake would say they're clowns .
This is what I assumed he was saying.
Ahh good point. But tbh, if this is the case, Drake ROYALLY fucked up the execution. The fake info stuff just doesn’t add up whatsoever
@@dcnats92 i don't think it's true , i just think that's what drake was alluding to .. these guys really want us to believe they're on some game of thrones / oceans 11 level espionage type of stuff when really they're just gossiping, namecalling, & throwing around allegations and accusations they both seen on the internet 😂
@@tajmirb.8979 loll that’s how I’m playing it. Both sides lying…and in that case, great effort from both sides but Kendrick dogwalked Drake in strategy and timing
but they must not be really clowns IF they told him about family matters. Kendrick responded to that record right away. I'm not use I think drake might have multiple moles and some are telling him the truth
Yo Rob, phenomenal job my brother. Here’s the thing by Drake dropping the heart part six he takes wind out of his drop and the title for his roll out. If he’s dropping an album his roll out has to change to be effective.
Ray!!! Peace man!!!! Yeah. But dot took the time stamp, Drake took the heart
Thank you bro, you're the only breakdown I look for.
Respect
subscribed !!! you broke it down the right way,showing no favoritism!!!
I’m glad it connected with you. Stay tune for a recap
So lemme get this straight…..Drake told Kendrick that he (Drake)was sexual predator and that he had sexual predators working for him but then pulled a uno reverse card and said “HA, it was a lie”? Is that the hill you’re gonna die on?
Yeah unfortunately in this day and age we got a 2 year battle within a week. Whole lottta allegations on both sides with no proof..im over it.
Also a product of fans and media putting rappers on the clock.
I think Drake WANTS it to be over..he doesn't really have anything else to say to Kendrick at this point..its sounds like hes tappin out,and Kendrick sounds like hes turning up..But The only way i think Kenrick should drop again is if he has a new angle to expose.,Otherwise i think we can call it
Well balanced assessments overall man. Love that you keep the personal stuff out.
The proof Drake with Drake and young girls is all online. It’s been a known thing for years.
I rock with the fact that you love the music more than any one person, group or label.
It’s the music that is gonna outlast all of this.
How on earth did he plant this info but didn’t immediately stop receipts once KDOT released Meet the Grahams? That would have killed his momentum and made perfect sense to continue this track but he waited how long to try and change the narrative? Also the man said “I knew you’d play on the Weinstein angle” and that’s so weird to me because why would you even think someone would go there with you unless you already got allegations and if you know, he definitely has been moving weird with teen girls for a long time. Multiple times of him being in girls dms and texting both Millie Bobbie Brown and Billy Eillish when they were younger and telling them stuff like he missed them. Why you talking to a 14 year old about boys as an outsider to her family? Would you let a grown ass 30 year old man talk to your daughter about boys??? Or would you load up the switch in this dude?? Let’s be honest he’s been moving weird for years and it’s catching up to him. He can say it’s not true but the only reason ppl talking about it is because you have a video out there of you kissing on a 17 year old girl on stage and then calling her thicc??! Not to mention the picture of him hugged on a child that had just turned 18 who he knew since she was like 12. He’s supposed to be a family friend. Now would you be hugged up on a child you knew for that many years at her birthday when you 30 plus?? And when I say hugged up it looked exactly how you would think. You can say there’s no “proof” but other than a video of him having sex with a minor what more do you want? He put himself in this position and has already crossed so many boundaries. Ppl just giving it a pass because they like him but those excuses wouldn’t fly if it were your child. Pu yourself in that position before you say there isn’t enough to make a call. The man at the very least doesn’t understand boundaries as a grown ass man. And at the most he kissed a child on stage and then when he found out she was young he said he had fun. That’s some of y’all’s GOAT right there smh.
Also none of yall have proven he doesn’t have a daughter??? Just because he said it you believe that? He also said he melted down Pharrell’s chains right? He also lied about Adonis the first time? What else is he lying about??? 😂
And what grown man makes a song called Teenage Fever?????? What is that about?
Keeping it 100, the source of unbiased truth. Thank you.
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It’s only over because we are tired not because Drake said anything we care about
I really enjoyed hearing you break all this down in a fair and non-sensationalist way. Thank you. I think Drake lost though. Just because the people don’t believe him and he’s getting clowned. Metro got civilians on Twitter and sound cloud making their own diss records. The internet is closing Drake and that’s usually where he thrives.
Metro is hilarious for that. Thanks for watching !!n
great weekend for the genre, Hip Hop for the win
This was an unforgettable weekend
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33:00 the angle and the track sound pretty defeated to me. Doubt it ages well, might delete later lol
Yeah, you’re right might start age badly. Already starting and it’s just been 2 days.
Hindsight is 20/20 but if you’re feeding information, I would have taking a video of planting the information, especially the items Kendrick used as the cover art on 6:16 in LA & Meet the Grahams. Neither have shown receipts for their accusations. But they’re both rapping their asses off. Question though… Hit Em Up is considered one of the best diss tracks, right? Was it ever proven during the beef that PAC actually slept with Faith? Like you said before, lies are baked in diss tracks and rappers are master liars in these diss track. It’s all about the angles and delivery.
If you feel that videos of the items would serve as a receipt on Drake's part, why isn't the actual photo a receipt for Kendrick?
Same I said, Faith denies sleeping with Tupac so it’s never been confirmed. Nas called Jay Z gay, never been confirmed. Only recently are people asking for proof before a diss is won.
I literally just posted this reply!
@@kaydee1485until Drake can prove otherwise, the pic is a receipt for Kendrick that he has a mole in the OVO camp
Drake kissed a 17yo, commented "finally, ive been waiting 🥵" on millie browns 18bday post, after being a 30+ year old texting her and seeing her since she was 14. Had a lyric abkut a girls highschool pics were sexy. He forsure a creep. If it act and look like one it probably is lol
ngl...He's creeplite lol...Wouldnt call him a criminal thou
@@bobby4fwe didn’t call Kells a criminal before this either lol 😂
He was at a high school and said he's a fan of one of the girls on the high school basketball team...
He also met a 16 year old model and then when she turned 18 bought out a restaurant for her birthday. There’s pictures of when they met and pictures of their date on her 18th birthday. I can believe he thinks nothing is wrong with talking to underage girls and not officially being sexual with them/dating them until they’re 18. That way he can say it’s not illegal. But to me that’s grooming and weirdo behavior. I had to realize guys would prey on me like that from the time I was 13, they would always be in their 20s and say they “just wanted to be friends” but would make comments or want to see me at night. That’s weirdo behavior. Thankfully my mom and dad got me hip and told me that’s not right when they saw me with an older guy. I’m sorry, even texting a 14 year old Millie Bobby Brown when you’re over 30 is weird af, I don’t care if it’s not sexual.
That was Billie Eilish bday post. Not Millie’s
***PLOT TWIST*** Drake does have a daughter, he’s just an actor that played it off as a “feed you the mole” situation.
I just imagine rob chilling trying to watch the play offs and then all of a sudden Drake or Kendrick drop and he has to pull him self off of the couch, find the fitted,chain and the fresh t-shirt just to post one of these joints. Salute to rob with the quality unbiased reviews..
This one feels like damage control Rob, it’s a lot of caption bars in there, that’s what he’s good at but if Drake really fed Dot that info, he rapping with his chest poked out. He wants outta this one while he still can
Haha
OMG thanks for this commentary. Now I can get back to work. Ive been mesmerized for a whole weekend.
The line that’s confusing y’all if you listen closely he’s saying it’s clowns feeding him stories about snitching allegations. And his mole is feeding him story about 11 year old daughter. Moral of the story is basically drake is saying learn to fact check things before you go to putting them in your raps.
Bruh that sounds good but if Drake had 18 kids I wouldn’t give a damn all that other shit is true the homeboy went to jail on some weirdo shit and Drake on stage doing some weirdo ish and has been doing weirdo ish period I mean I like the nigga music to but damn you glazing for Drake shit 😂
While providing 0 evidence whatsoever
What's crazy is I don't remember anybody asking Pac for receipts when he said, "That's why I f'd your b"....
For me, MTG hits not because of the daughter stuff, but the discussion at the end. “Why believe you, you never gave us nothing to believe in” Drake’s been strategically playing chess with the culture his whole career. Kendrick got fooled, but he brought up a bunch more to talk about, and now the debate is starting again centered around Drake’s spot in the culture. Drake now has to prove again that he really belongs
Why not let Kendrick dig his own hole deeper? I honestly think Drake let the cat out the bag early if true. He seems to be walking away as a self declared winner, but let’s be honest, Kendrick is going to send something back.
For those using the MCU Infinity-war analogy; maybe we entered the Endgame.
Rob Markman, I have no words for you because it's ALL applause! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 Great job!
Much love
Kendrick bias but I feel this is an objective opinion.
Even if Drake planted the info and it's confirmed with receipts, the venom and initial shock that Meet the Grahams had compared to Family Matters was decisive. It's like, Drake's character was so marred and he was painted as a deadbeat so much already (Story of Adidon, Euphoria, and Not Like Us) that him not having a daughter doesn't dismiss the doubt on Drake's shortcomings as a parent.
Thank you I’m confused by the Drake Stan’s anyway like ok we get no 11yr old daughter cool but alllllllll that other shit whewwwww 😮
You do an amazing job breaking all this down objectively
Rob, what’s your favourite New York movie? I just watched “do the right thing” for the first time and loved it
Do the Right thing was amazing. I think my favorite might be Paid in Full
@@RobMarkmanamazing movie! The warriors is also a classic
i like watching your reviews. you have a different style than most. no games just reactions and breakdowns 💪🏼 also that mac miller plaque is dope. i just got hired at ID Labs in Pittsburgh and it’s sick seeing all his plaques on the wall. Blessings 🙏🏼
What Drake hasn't realize yet (somehow) is that everytime he brings Kendrick's family into this he's making things worse for himself
To be called a master manipulator in euphoria and then for drake to end with saying i tricked you 🤔 which means Kendrick was ahead of the manipulation?
Rob i need yo thoughts this doesn't seem like drake was in control at all
Even if he planted the info, Kendrick cooked him off his own “leaked info” so again this just shows Drake really isn’t the best chess player.
Back at it!
yoooooooo! THIS IS NOT A PODCAST YALL!
It most certainly is not
This beef went from fun to extremely depressing
Big Rob back with the 🔥🔥 breakdown
we back!!
YOU THE GOAT of this bro 🙌🏾
Love!
I appreciate your videos so much. And I know you don’t want it to be true about Drake. But he’s had countless encounters with underage girls, kissing them, flirting, communication. He’s done this with several female celebrities when they were under the age of 18 and with his fans. It’s documented through text, social media post , pictures, videos, and his lyrics. Also if it were true that he seeks young girls only as long as they are 18, the only thing that changes is the legality but morally it’s still predator. Just because something is legal doesn’t make it right. He’s a master manipulator, a predator and he flirts with teenage girls publicly because he knows people won’t care if you like his music.
Then let the courts get him. If it’s true than he deserves all the consequences
@@RobMarkman stats show that the courts fail victims of abuse majority of the time. Also we have seen too often how celebrities have escaped court for their actions. Look how long it took to get R Kelly and we seen videos of his acts. As long predators have a circle of supporters they can continue with predatory behavior. I know you just want the courts to handle but they say rarely comes, and not to mention how difficult if not impossible it is to prove I court that you’ve been SA’d. I was a huge fan of Drake because I loved Degrassi so you can imagine how ecstatic I was when he became a big star in the US, I stopped being a fan of Drake after I came across his post and videos of his interactions with underage girls.
I wouldn't want you
To put you in a bad position but have seen The video with drake where the young lady said she was 17 and he proceed to say things he had no businesses saying about her body , if that was one of yo friends would you still rock with them???
Your delivery on these lines sounds more inspired than Drake's lmao
Kendrick didn’t sound inspired on MTG but that was enough for y’all
@@ngmmngw9027 Kendrick was obviously going for a creepy/sinister tone and it worked. Drake sounds like he just woke up from a nap.
@@leightonslang Yall hate to give that man credit for anything and willing to give kendrick credit for anything lol.. actin like yall wouldn't be pissed with the whole internet calling you a fuckin pedo 🙄
@@ngmmngw9027drake only changes his tone when he sings that’s not regular for drake. Kendrick always changing his vocals
YOU LIEED *Kendrick voice *
I feel like if this was a actual battle and drake went last and spit this track as a battle rap fan it wouldve had the room shocked . This record is like a third round verse in a battle. Very well crafted.
Still doesn’t explain why all these huge names in the industry are rooting for dot…
He did not lead Kendrick on. It’s a smart way to go about it, but if he had, he would’ve documented it and really played his ass publicly.
Yeah that makes a lot of sense to me
Facts
You're the only UA-camr that is keeping it unbiased Rob, everyone else is either Drake or Kendrick stan. I still think family matters is one of the hardest disses I ever heard, but Kendrick won the crowd and it's gonna be hard for Drake to come back. Either way, I respect Drake for not backing down.
He went hard on family matters. Just rap wise. He went crazy.
It sounds like a bunch of top Instagram comment and instagrams theories put in a song
One thing I haven’t liked from this beef is objectively. The bias from both sides is crazy.
The culture has already chosen y'all have fun coping
You shouldn’t let that bother you. None of these people pay our bills at the end of the day.
Never forget Kendrick got you out the hat.