I have always put the frames, foundation on a flat hay wagon standing up and leaning in all directions and let let the bees work on them for a couple days, toss a tarp on them if going to rain, then I clean the wax around the edge of the frames a little, put them back in the boxes, stack them and put some moth crystals on the top of a few frames, set the bottom box on card board and put a piece of card board on the top box so it's like a gasket..I keep a light on in that section. my wife get the crystals at a dollar store all the time at a good price.
For years, I've used XenTari (same active ingredient as the Certan you're using) and Certan. First, I put freshly-harvested frames back on the hive for a day or two so the bees to clean out honey residue. Then, I spray both sides of each frame with the XenTari/Certan-water solution. I put the frames back in the suppers and place the supers on end for a day to allow the moisture to dry in the sun/breeze. Then, I stack and store the frames in the supers. I have the job done by the end of August (I harvest in mid-August). I haven't seen even a trace of waxmoth damage since I began this protocol. The bees seem entirely unaffected by XenTari and Certan. Before I discovered XenTari/Certan, I used ParaMoth crystals. But combs treated with ParaMoth require airing before putting them back on the hive. Combs treated with Zentari/Certan, on the other hand, are always ready for immediate use.
I wonder if you could mix up a tub of the liquid and just dip the frames in it. It seems like that would go faster, and save some wear&tear on your trigger finger.
I put my frames in the freezer for few days. After that I will put them in the cedar chest. I read that cedar chest is good protection against wax moths. I just put some of my frames in, and going to try this.
Love the camera speed up Peter! Wondering if using a light foam roller (not dripping of course) to apply? We have a big chest freezer in the shop to rotate honey supers for 24 hours at 0 F. Then stacked up with top screens. Never had a problem that way but maybe not practical for keeper your size. Unless you can rent a freezer locker?
A freezer is great usually, though once they are out of the freezer they are vulnerable again and if exposed to a moth can get destroyed (has happened to me when stored after freezing.) but usually that is a fine alternative. Also small foam roller good for small numbers of frames.
i always just put wax moth frames out in the sun and they're either all cooked or eaten by wasps within an hour. very damaged combs i save for my most hygienic hives.
Many years that would work here (plus freezing in the shed) but this year I now that would not be enough. Combs already being attacked. Probably due to warmer weather.
@@BeekeepingwithTheBeeWhisperer so far so good for me. ive done nothing about beetles this year and the bees seemed to have kicked them out on their own as the weather cools down. my hives always get beetles when the migratory guys bring them to pollinate cranberries.
Great video Peter what is the name of the spray I did not understand the brand or the name but it will help me if u write it down, I have my boxes in my kitchen of my house to protect them so please tell me the name Thanks and have a great day
@@BeekeepingwithTheBeeWhisperer Thankyou for replying that stuff is very pricy but I got it coming. now I can have my kitchen back. I was not kidding I have at least 50 hive boxes in my kitchen That is the only safe place. I freeze them for a week then bring them in my kitchen for safety. Oh that trick u showed us in the last video where u took a match and cleaned the feeder top off that works so great thank u so much for sharing that with us as well.- thanks for the video's they are great hope u have a blessed week.
In the UK we had Certan B401, another version being marketed in the US is B402 Certan. We are awaiting its approval in the UK. Some beekeepers are using non regulated versions. I've heard that Paramoth is quite toxic, interestingly in the Ukraine they coat their frames with ash and then hang them up in sheds, then in the spring the bees clean the frames out.
I have always put the frames, foundation on a flat hay wagon standing up and leaning in all directions and let let the bees work on them for a couple days, toss a tarp on them if going to rain, then I clean the wax around the edge of the frames a little, put them back in the boxes, stack them and put some moth crystals on the top of a few frames, set the bottom box on card board and put a piece of card board on the top box so it's like a gasket..I keep a light on in that section. my wife get the crystals at a dollar store all the time at a good price.
Thanks for your contribution!
For years, I've used XenTari (same active ingredient as the Certan you're using) and Certan. First, I put freshly-harvested frames back on the hive for a day or two so the bees to clean out honey residue. Then, I spray both sides of each frame with the XenTari/Certan-water solution. I put the frames back in the suppers and place the supers on end for a day to allow the moisture to dry in the sun/breeze. Then, I stack and store the frames in the supers. I have the job done by the end of August (I harvest in mid-August). I haven't seen even a trace of waxmoth damage since I began this protocol. The bees seem entirely unaffected by XenTari and Certan.
Before I discovered XenTari/Certan, I used ParaMoth crystals. But combs treated with ParaMoth require airing before putting them back on the hive. Combs treated with Zentari/Certan, on the other hand, are always ready for immediate use.
Thanks for sharing!
Got a little bit of work ahead of you with all those hives you tend. Have fun 👍
Thanks, I do!
I wonder if you could mix up a tub of the liquid and just dip the frames in it. It seems like that would go faster, and save some wear&tear on your trigger finger.
Would not give right dose which is important...not to mention as it would tend to over coat frames, very expensive!
I put my frames in the freezer for few days. After that I will put them in the cedar chest. I read that cedar chest is good protection against wax moths. I just put some of my frames in, and going to try this.
I would need a big chest!!!
I have two of them. If works OK, I'll get some more. I'd need many of them.
Love the camera speed up Peter! Wondering if using a light foam roller (not dripping of course) to apply? We have a big chest freezer in the shop to rotate honey supers for 24 hours at 0 F. Then stacked up with top screens. Never had a problem that way but maybe not practical for keeper your size. Unless you can rent a freezer locker?
A freezer is great usually, though once they are out of the freezer they are vulnerable again and if exposed to a moth can get destroyed (has happened to me when stored after freezing.) but usually that is a fine alternative. Also small foam roller good for small numbers of frames.
@@BeekeepingwithTheBeeWhisperer We painters taped all seams where the boxes meet, sealed the tops and bottoms with window screening. Worked.
i always just put wax moth frames out in the sun and they're either all cooked or eaten by wasps within an hour. very damaged combs i save for my most hygienic hives.
Many years that would work here (plus freezing in the shed) but this year I now that would not be enough. Combs already being attacked. Probably due to warmer weather.
@@BeekeepingwithTheBeeWhisperer so far so good for me. ive done nothing about beetles this year and the bees seemed to have kicked them out on their own as the weather cools down. my hives always get beetles when the migratory guys bring them to pollinate cranberries.
So you will move brood boxes out to an outdoor shed for storage? No concerns about it being dark?
How do you store your honey supers?
Same way. Has worked well so far. (shed also has windows)
Great video Peter what is the name of the spray I did not understand the brand or the name but it will help me if u write it down, I have my boxes in my kitchen of my house to protect them so please tell me the name Thanks and have a great day
Wax moth larvaside B402 www.betterbee.com/pest-management-and-medications/moth3-Wax-Moth-Larvicide-B402-Certan-946ml.asp
@@BeekeepingwithTheBeeWhisperer Thankyou for replying that stuff is very pricy but I got it coming. now I can have my kitchen back. I was not kidding I have at least 50 hive boxes in my kitchen That is the only safe place. I freeze them for a week then bring them in my kitchen for safety. Oh that trick u showed us in the last video where u took a match and cleaned the feeder top off that works so great thank u so much for sharing that with us as well.- thanks for the video's they are great hope u have a blessed week.
What the name if this product?
In the UK we had Certan B401, another version being marketed in the US is B402 Certan. We are awaiting its approval in the UK. Some beekeepers are using non regulated versions. I've heard that Paramoth is quite toxic, interestingly in the Ukraine they coat their frames with ash and then hang them up in sheds, then in the spring the bees clean the frames out.
B402
Thanks for sharing that.