@@TangerineTravels I have a residente temporal.It expires in 18 months and i'm supposed to transition automatically to residente permanente.However,if they ask if i meet the new financial requirements for the permanent visa i'll be screwed.Will they ask me for 6 months of financial statements?
@@darrellknox9581 They will probably ask your for bank statements but I've never heard about anyone getting denied a renewal or an upgrade to permanent once they already have residency
@@k_and_m8745 Based on the comments, it seems your right about the recent change to 1275 for the retiree visa. Also, they have a new digital nomad visa that's pretty appealing! Thanks for the info about the renewal options for the tourist visa!
Honestly i think this is a good step for Mexico and the people living there because most land is being bought up by foreigners. That causes the prices to rise for locals who make $100 per week maybe less
@@kellyname5733You're right. I've been coming to surf and camp in Mexico for over 40 years. I liked it when it was more for the rugged type of traveler. When you knew where everything wasn't going to be easy getting there. They made some parts of Mexico too comfortable for usually picky, wealthier people who didn't come for any of the culture but came to mingle only with their type. Heard that's happening in Lake Chapala, they've made it so the locals can't afford to live in town anymore and some are even demanding the vendors to start speaking English! Saying that, I still think I should be able to get residency with over 12 times the minimum wage, or at least a guarantee of being able to stay for a full 180 days. I know the villages I stay in are always happy to see me!
As a "permanent resident" and home owner in Mexico I am happy that Mexico feels that their economy is strong enough to start being more selective regarding the financial security of potential residents. This action complements their already tough position on illegal aliens. I don't think "ease of entry" is the best criteria for somebody looking for a place to retire. Visit as many countries as you can, stay as long as you can, and learn as much as you can about them; then, make your decision.
If we could afford to go visit the world then maybe we would find somewhere else. I want the Mexican culture I grew up with living in the Hispanic area in Las Vegas NV.. the year round climate.. and still be close to the USA for family . I hardly think what I make is ease of entry! Where we are in the USA, housing went from 500 a month to 1500 for the same neighborhood. Same house.
@@mikelbrenn111 Keep in mind Mikel that American tourists/expats spend 24 Billion in Mexico each year. Every country wants 24 Billion to flow into their country.
@@MrSgtau *vomit* such an ironic statement, and if you made it here in the USA about the lovely south of the border "immigrants", you would be immediately roasted for racism.
@@Skiis44 We, as potential shopping mexican tourists, prefer to go to Europe because we are more concerned of the massive shootings perpetrated by insane idiots in your country 🙄🙄🙄 What a coincidence!
@@karlvaneyck You don't have many massive shootings but crime and homelessness have definitely increased here. I haven't travelled anywhere outside the USA recently due to Covid. Hopefully that will be over soon.
Don't be so quick to blame former beneficiaries. Could be simple inflation, simple supply and demand realities. Could be nobody's "fault". Thise who don't really understand human nature, economic levers, or how things work are always looking for scapegoats who supposedly "caused" others to become harsher with them.
Mexico is really one of the most amazing countries!!! Not only is it huge, but there are sooo many different places! Beaches, mountains, deserts, jungles, volcanos - you can explore Mexico for years and still not see it all! 😍😍😍
Well to be honest I don't like the title of this video, "Mexico shoot it self in the foot", really? is that what you think? that Mexico is really losing an opportunity? I have nothing negative to say about the new regulations I think is something that concern to us in our country and shouldn't be a subject of judgement,, I bet most of your subscribers are Mexicans or at least 50/50, so to be fair why not a comparison between what it takes for a Mexican to get legal residence in USA, France, Germany, Italy, England or Spain? I want to believe that a person that really love Mexico as their new home will do the effort to get the residence if you want to go to a place just because its easier or you get a better bang for your buck I think the world is full of alternatives, I don't think that we are really "losing" an opportunity, Mexico will stay open to anybody that want to come here and be part of our culture and impact in a positive way to our economy and society.
It's a bit weird to see people reacting this way when for someone like me, young woman with a college degree, no kids/single, okayish English would take me thousands of dollars and 40! years until i get a green card/US citizenship. But I get it, they're not used to meet a lot of requirements, that's why I don't take it personally, I don't think we Mexicans should take it personally, his channel's main audience is American/Canadians so it only makes sense Jordan is talking to them, not us :)
Yes, I do think that. I estimate that these changes will force 500,000 Americans and Canadians to choose other countries instead of Mexico. Conservatively, the average of whom would be spending $1,500 USD/month in Mexico. That's about $9,000,000,000 USD in economic activity every year. From that, the Mexican government will collect about $2,700,000,000 in taxes. The remaining $6,300,000,000 will be spent back into the economy generating that much more economic activity plus another $2,000,000,000 in taxes. The remaining $4,000,000,000 will be spent back into the economy, generating another $1,200,000,000 of taxes and so on until the government has collected the full amount in taxes. So, because of these changes, every year Mexico will be losing 10s of billions of dollars in economic activity and billions of dollars in tax revenue. Maybe Mexico doesn't need several billion dollars a year, but it sure doesn't hurt.
@@TangerineTravels May I ask where you get your numbers from? 500k USA and Canadians wanting to move here? In what period of time? According to wikipedia there are around 800k Americans and just 13k Canadians living in Mexico, and surely it took a lot of years to grow to that number, decades most likely. I don't think we will be losing billions from expats not living here, surely you know our first source of income is what our own expats send from the USA to their families here, and that is 4.4 billions USD, according to the government. I too understand how youtube works and the need for catchy titles, and to be honest, I think anyone wanting to come here should do their own research and contact a good lawyer.
@@TangerineTravels Jordan, thanks for replying I really find hard to believe that we are talking about 500k I think the last statistics that I found indicate that around a million US citizens have permanent residence status and the number of Canadians is really low, between 15 and 18k, 500k is the half of the permanent residents but let's say that your number is right and I do believe your other estimations are correct because all that come from your experience living here, to me what matters the most is how many of those 500k really wanted to move from a temporary status to a permanent one because we have been listening for years that many temporary residents were constantly violating the temporary visa of 180 days, if my memory is not failing the fee for exceeding the 180 days was really low so nobody really considering important to left the country on time so I want to believe the new regulations are only temporary to discourage all the travelers that were not following the rules, changes not necessarily have to be permanent, just let me clarify something because one time I left a comment in one of your previous videos and everything went totally out of control, last time I checked my comment had hundreds of replies many of them completely negative and my replies come with a total respect to you as a person, this is not US vs Mexico or US citizen vs Mexican citizen is just an opinion we are not fighting here, take care!
I paid a total 6500k to USCIS to get my green card here in the US, there was one particular paper they needed from me, I sent it 3x and 3x they said they didnt get it so they would cancel my process and each time I had to appeal It cost 700 to appeal a motion…. I wish it was that easy to get permanent residence to US, here the only option is via marriage (besides those asylee and refugee situations) but I just had 1 option.
I don’t think they have shot themselves in the foot. I think they’re tired of the riff-raf that were coming to Mexico for a cheap lifestyle (and cheap alcohol). One of the things I love about tangerine travels is that the channel was about culture, food, language, where as now your focus seems to moving more toward value for money, cheap finds, and how you can have a mansion in Mexico for the price of a shack in the USA. That should not be what promoting living in Mexico should be about or even be a focus. Moving to Mexico to save money will loose its charm within 6 months tops. Let’s focus on promoting Mexican culture rather than what a bargain it is!
I see both sides of this argument. Culture and language is important. I also see that many people outside of Mexico are looking for a more affordable living option. So I can see why that change has occurred.
I don't know where you're getting cheap alcohol. It's more expensive here than it is in the States. And nobody is getting a "mansion" here on the cheap either.
I just looked at the income requirements for residency in Mexico. For permanent residency you need to have over $5000 a month for the last 6 months. I'm lucky I applied when I did because I have nowhere near that amount. I'm living well on my $1600 Social Security payment. It's puzzling.
@@fernandosoto5824 right? Mexican ex pats living in the United States have a much harder path to legal residency. Can I call us ex pats, or are we immigrants because we're brown? 🤔
@@marcoarreola9058 Exactly that is why I think the focus of this video is unfair specially considering that a good percentage of their audience is Mexican, you have to analyze the subject from different angles.
If expats found another country that they likes it, perfect, its ok. I'm sure Mexico still remains as a Wonderful place to live for everyone and forever. I'm very happy that in Mexico a lot of things are really changing for good.
You are so right, but now I'm so sad about the new changes that make me unqualified for retirement visa and let me tell you this: I love México but sadly is not for me now.
Yes mi Mexico es lo mejor que todos, but sad to say with alot of changes Mexico made people will be looking for the next cheap and easy country.. this move might have been good in some ways but it may end up hurting Mexico in the end!
Jordan, I like what you're doing with your channel, (post break). Sometimes "we walked here, we ate that" is fine but solid info for the traveler helps so much more. It's nice to hear other travelers takes on places to investigate. Cheers.
Great video. I have heard from friends who retired in Portugal that its getting more and more crowded on the Algarve and other spots on the coast. This is what always happens..places become popular and prices go up! Some places in costa rico as well. I think Mexico is doing the right thing for their people.
You heard correctly. Portugal is incredibly busy! It is the most popular among digital nomads. Maaaany are buying properties, so there is more restrictions now.
I just returned from Costa Rica. Better have some deep, deep pockets, if you're considering there...And, you can certainly count on the prices increasing...
First of all, you’re wrong. Ecuador now requires proof of $1200/month income. The professional visa is for professionals that they are interested in, I. doctors, attorneys etc. NOT just a college degree.
I went to Panama last year. I went with Panama Relocation Tours. We visited all areas. It will cost me more to live there than in the US unless I want to live in a shack. The only thing cheaper was local food. To anyone wanting to relocate there, you have to have a FBI background check. Any felonies and yes, that includes a DUI and even if it has be expunged. I do not have any felonies but, a lot of people spend a lot of money to rent or buy only to be struck down and loose everything. Better have a good attorney as well. I highly recommend the tour. They cover everything, hold your hand, and make sure you are not taken advantage of. I qualify for Mexico as well. I’m going on the Mexico Relocation Tour soon. Same people and I trust them. Follow both on you tube for a wealth of knowledge. Knowledge is power.
@@jmaatgreen7894 We've had fabulous medical care in Mexico. Another advantage is that we're just over half an hour to Guadalajara airport - so easy to go back to visit family in Canada. We've lived here almost 17 years and love it.
It's not a permanent measure. We all know all countries modify their migration laws as they see fit. This temporary measure is looking to weed out some bad apples, and at the same time, it will end up encouraging more people to seek Mexican citizenship. There is no law in North America prohibiting anyone from having two or three citizenships.
Nope sorry to inform the us of a but 1. Mexicos president is already almost done with Mexicos biggest refinery that will supply EVERY mexican with more than enough & affordable prices even enough to export millions of barrel to other countries. 2. he is making a train to connect 5 states to allow the people for faster travel to the city for work and faster travel for security and public benefit 3. (Panama HAD the only canal in NA)a canal in mexico is being made and should be done sooner than later w mexicans desperate to rebuild quickly it will alow for asian trade specifically china who the usa doesn’t want to do business with 🤣 4. THIS year the miltary is cracking down on cartels more than ever and obrador is planning to take all the money that the goverments robbed from the people as they are traitors to the country In the end idk why you mad mexico is finally tired of being shit on by the usa because hispanics have been doing bad because USA wants weak neighbors so they’re not a risk 🤡
We are foreigners with permanent residency living in Mexico and paying all taxes here. Mexico is cracking down because most of these foreigners are just permatourists driving the costs for the locals up, yet not paying any taxes here, or contributing to society. I know this firsthand, this happens in Codesa/Roma in CDMX in excess, hence we agree that it was time Mexican GOVT put an end to this. If you want to live in another country: pay your taxes there, learn the language and culture, and contribute to society. If not, just stay in USA. Did you not see in twitter last week the backlash that US woman got for suggesting people move to Mexico.
Actually, tourists do pay taxes. Tourist visas $25. Then the hotel taxes and hidden sales taxes etc. You can say they are driving up costs but they are also contributing to the local economy. I have my permanente too, but I don’t resent the people on tourist visas. I think you are only focusing on the negative.
I hope that the Mexican government takes measures regarding the regulation of tax collection from immigrants who decide to live in Mexico, in order to protect the purchasing power and price regulation in favor of Mexicans.
I think Mexico will continue to he attractive to people because of their infrastructure, closeness to USA and I think it's easier for folks from states etc to adjust to. It's really going to deter people who are too poor to afford residency and folks that were planning to stay long term on tourist visas.
A year later & Ecuador is now $1350 / month - or - 3 times their 2023 minimum wage of $450 / month. -- Still not too bad. -- Cuenca is a very popular expat city in the mountains. There is enough English there you actually need little Spanish. - - - Siem Reap Cambodia remains a very cheap retirement destination & cheap visa fees as well ! - - - Georgia has been flooded with Russians from avoiding the war in Ukraine and prices for rents have really gone up !
This info is NOT ACCURATE about Mexico.. Many states in Mexico are currently allowing long term visas for 'regularization', or humanitarian reasons for at least 4 years WITHOUT showing income. JUST did this a few weeks ago. You pay about $800-$1000 flat fee, varies by state and timing. PEOPLE ARE RECEIVING VISAS HERE LEFT AND RIGHT though laws change by the day. Each state has different laws. MEXICO IS WELCOMING PEOPLE SO PLEASE CHECK LOCAL LAWS AND CONSULT AN ATTORNEY rather than just an expat traveler's info. With all due respect, a lot of good info on this site but not true about Mexico right now.
Perhaps it would be worthwhile to add to your analysis the reasons why Mexico took these measures. It would be interesting. Without that context it is hard to know if Mexico shoot itself in the foot or not. Seems that Mexico wouldn't add these requirements if it did not think there were also some benefits of doing so. More context and a broader overview would make your video more interesting. Sure, I understand that you have a main target audience, i.e. Americans thinking about relocating abroad, but I am sure you could share a deeper perspective on the context given that you have spent so many years in Mexico now. This could be interesting to other smaller segments of you audience , e.g. me.
Look up the UMA. It's basically a law that was passed in 2016 to keep Government fees low. It's the law and is used for Governmental processes in Mexico, but was never applied to the Economic Solvency requirements like it should have been when the law was passed. Since 2016 "They" keep saying they are going to change it.
At this moment and for some time to come, I would not consider Georgia or any eastern European countries as a place to reside. One has to take into account the military conflict that is taking place in that part of the world. Georgia in particular already had confrontation with Russia some years ago. In fact, I would say the safer places to be in case of a world conflict would be Uruguay, southern Brazil, Chile and perhaps Argentina. As far as countries where obtaining a retirement visa is easier, Portugal is the one in western Europe. Now rents have gone up A LOT in Lisbon and Porto. Buying an apartment there is also super expensive, but there are other more affordable options in Portugal and it is a very safe country, as far as crime is concerned. In this part of the world, Panama is hot and humid all year and expensive as well. People depend on the automobile even in places like Panama City almost as much as in the US. Ecuador is a good option. Uruguay is the most expensive country in Latin-America, followed by Chile or perhaps they are tied. Argentina, on the other hand, is very cheap, but suffers from high inflation and other problems. It still offers good healthcare, and you could even attend the university there for free.
Russia is just putting an end to war thats been happening on their border past 8 years, which should hopefully make all European nations, more secure,,
Luis, I almost swallowed my chaw when I saw your comment about free university! Really? How do they prevent large numbers of, say Chinese for example, from just arriving to study. You may not may not know that Cambodia has been overrun by the Chinese in recent years...
Yes, potential conflict in Eastern Europe does concern me. I'd be hesitant to relocate there long term. This was true even before the current Russian invasion of Ukraine.
So, Mexico finally catches up. What is the cost to become US resident for foreigners? Oh wait, next to impossible. You may also read up on requirements, in Mexico you need about $225000 for PR either in Money in the Bank or a property equal to it. I remember it's 147K for TR. Coming from Europe living In Canada having a certain way of live Mexico is the next best thing regarding stores. I have been in Ecuador, forget it to find big box stores, also to Portugal. You cant live anywhere in Europe till you are citizen of one of the European countries. I think look to the US sure its cheaper to live there, lol
You always can go down in budget and find a mosquito swamp in asia or south america to " live" for 300 usd a month...but the question here is... ¿ is that what you want ? and what are the implications of that?
If I had money for a $300,000+ house, I wouldn't need to leave the USA. lol This teacher's salary isn't cutting it! The house I'm building in Mexico is only $24,000 + $15,000 for the land.
Where are you able to build for that price?! My husband and I (with our 2 kids) moved to Mexico last year and we’re looking for a $30k-ish house but not finding much online. We’re flexible on which city we settle in and price is our biggest factor right now.
@@jenniferposton3869 Nowhere anyone else goes...small town outside of Pachuca and I'm also working with local people, not people that specialize in expats so they jack up the price
@@jenniferposton3869 It is quite low, but have you consider Tampico? near city center probably is to expensive, but outside the city you may find a suitable place or a small apartment. I know Tamaulipas has a bad rep, but Tampico is a nice place to live.
NGL I’m happy Mexico is doing this , it’s getting too expensive for locals in some places like Oaxaca. The only thing that sucks is that a lot of locals also depend on these people to make a living , luckily Mexicans are resilient and always find a way 🤗💕
I was wondering about that. How to balance opportunities for locals versus attracting foriegners who will spend cash at local businesses. Many big US cities are struggling with similar issues at gentrification sweeps through what had been working class areas pricing out people who've lived in areas for decades, generations even.
I don't mind paying my fair share to live there. It's climate I'm looking for and the culture and food.. but I can't afford to live in my own country with the crazy cost of Healthcare and the winters here are killing me
@@sdrockrgirl My sister was early retired years ago from a large corp. She decided to keep the same coverage her job had offered. Job paid the first year. Cost her about $1k/month after that. This was a solid but not amazing plan. She's over 65 now so she has much cheaper coverage but still! I'm hoping to avoid that entirely by leaving the US. I don't want to throw away tens of thousands on medical coverage in order to retire here before age 65..
@Viqui Aye thing is this.. I make more than what is considered the top 1 percent in mexico.. but.. they want you to make even more than what I make to get residency. Doent mexico understand people like me want a great climate and would rather spend all of our money there? You would thing that people who seriously want to be there and are learning the language and make decent money would be accepted.
Georgia is an absolutely wonderful country with a very inexpensive cost of living by most standards. The food is indeed off the charts and Tbilisi a great blend of modern and traditional architecture. The one year visa on arrival is simply hard to beat. I’ve been 5 or 6 times now and I love the Republic of Georgia.
In the area of unintended consequences, because the minimum income requirement for foreigners is tied to the Mexican minimum wage which is rising every year (it's still too low IMHO) it is making it difficult for many Mexicans in some areas to find affordable rental housing. The government really needs to separate these two things because the people coming in from America and Canada for the last few years have a lot of disposable income. Another thing to note is that all embassies do not all stick to the income rules absolutely. I have lived in Mexico for 11 years now.
@@venanciobernabe7334 No. In English speaking nations we do not teach that there is one continent; we are taught that north and South America are two separate continents. Therefore, we speak of the Americas when speaking of this hemisphere as a whole.
@Susan Elliott Eleven years? And haven't learned much about geography in Mexico haven't you? America vs USA? un niño de segundo grado te ayudaría a entenderlo un poco mejor... eleven years 🙄😒!!
¡Viva, México! This country actually has an immigration policy and has every right to say adios to those expats who don’t meet their minimum requirements. Yet another plus for why amazing México is an excellent option for anyone who has his or her shit together.
@@val91201 That’s the USA’s problem/decision/choice; and can’t be blamed upon México. The problem with the USA is that common sense is, well, not all that common. After the conman’s 2016-2020 reign, the USA has lost its moral authority to comment on any other country worldwide.
The U.S. should require the same $2000. Then my tax dollars will not be spent on a million illegal immigrants.Why are all these Mexicans entering the U.S illegally if Mexico is so great.I say deny them entry and let Mexico take care of their own.
So many countries are underrated. I wanna visit Albania one day. People say "why on earth would you go to a place like that?". Well, because it's cheap, it's safe, Enver Hoxha hasn't been the dictator since 1991, and it shares the same coast line with Greece and Croatia for a fraction of the cost.
I went to Albania with my friend two and half years ago, as two females…i was a bit worried, when we went in a private car, not knowing the person, to see the sites, the Blue Eye, and the lookout view of the ocean. The driver went out of his way to look after us. The people are so friendly and helpful. You will love it there.
How easy is it to get around with English (or French)? I speak a good chunk of French and a small amount of Spanish which I'm working on, but Albania is a whole other language, sharing absolutely nothing with any other Romance Languages
24 Billion is spent in your country by American tourists/expats per year. Just about any country on the planet would love to have that money flowing through their country. And I'm sure the Mexican Govt. loves it too
Tourism is welcome, but migrants make life actually hard for people who actually was born and rised there. The price of rent in popular places all around the globe declined because of covid, but in mexico city, the prices actually rised because migrants are filling the holes that actual mexicans left, because they can pay it with their minimum salary. Try living here with the minimum salary here and it's hell, live with minimum salary from a developed country and you live like a king... and business people treat you like a king. I don't like feeling like a second-rate citizen in my own city, in my own town, when businesses give preferential tratment to migrants. I have a friend who lives in Cancún, and she told me this happened to her all the time over there, I thought it was unfair and annoying, but it was understandable because of the hefty tourism there, but that started to leak into cities, and that started to be problematic. So maybe the gov is into something for taking this measures.
Thanks you, this guy clearly is just in it for the money. That’s why I love xyz, cyz, now. 🤦♀️ this guy in no doubt will move and I’m ok if he does. We don’t need greedy people like him. 80,000 especially from an American salary and economy can be more attainable since he is from that country but 80,000 to a resident and local is like 300,000 (this is not really but saying this in perception of it). Those people don’t sell tacos for 2 dollars because they think it’s cheap, they see it at that because many locals will think it’s a common range price. If someone were to say that fast food some meals are 11 dollars now, and say that’s cheap, most people will be surprised that you think that. Especially if you are paying for more than one person. I don’t know what rich country would think that but saying it in a perspective where our prices are low would be crazy.
We lived in Costa Rica for a little over a year and decided early on that we weren't going for residency until at least 1 year. The reason was that "border runs" every 90 days were easy and cheap and the cost of residency was fairly expensive. Generally, it was around $2,500 or so (and lots of paperwork) per person. So, we saved $5,000 by deciding not to get residency. We just made border runs and visited back home (USA) every so often. Residency there got you free medical through their socialized medicine (most expats choose private health care), not having to leave every 90 days and a few other perks. It just wasn't worth the money for us. My advice, don't buy a house and get residency for at least 1 year and DO enjoy the experience!
Wow, what a great video! I'm glad I've already been able to get our Mexican residency before the income requirements went up. However, knowing how to get residency in other countries is beyond helpful. Thank you!
One of your best Jordan thank you. As a Canadian who needs to make his Pension go as far as possible, Canada's cost of living increases could see a lot of Pensioners becoming homeless even though they may be making $1800. per month. The possibility of being able to have a far better standard of living simply by choosing s different location is just what many of us need. Very useful information.
Georgia is interesting, but with the war that just started in Ukraine, I'm afraid that things may change quickly. The only bad thing about Georgia is unfortunately its location. Iran and Iraq at the South and Ukraine/Russia at the north. I hope things don't get worse than they are in that corner of the world, but things don't look promising as of now. 🥺
You’re absolutely right, and also one thing that some people don’t mention when analyzing locations is whether or not it is safe for LGBT people, which I am not convinced that Georgia is
Agreed. Wayyyy too much ethnic conflict within and around Georgia. Also, Georgia has just 4% arable land (compared to 17% for US). Food scarcity will always be a problem. Hard no.
We tried Mexico only ended up in Portugal and very happy we did. You're right about the paperwork and the cost of alcohol. It's shocking how inexpensive beer and wine is. Plus there's lots of healthy fruits and vegetables available at an incredible price all year long. You forgot to mention that Portugal is also offering digital nomads incredible tax rates for 10 years...so a great way to build and save wealth. Not as tropical as Mexico and probably not as flavourful when it comes to food...only an incredibly safe country with friendly people and no freezing winters!
I had the pleasure of going to Portugal in 19 and fell in love with this beautiful humble country and people. We went to Lisbon, Porto and Lagos and yeah we were surprised on how affordable it is. It is more of a socialist country which explains the bureaucracy.
Jordan, very interesting and informative, but you need to improve on your geographic knowledge... Georgia is not in Eastern Europe, rather it is in Asia. Portugal sounds interesting, but I'm not sure that I could master basic Portuguese as I find the language much more difficult than Spanish and I haven't learned enough Spanish yet. Though, I like the idea of having access to the whole EU. Jordan, keep up the great content.
I keep hearing tons of buzz about Portugal. When I start hearing everyone on social media talking about it, that only means the cost of living will skyrocket soon as people start flooding in from expensive countries trying to find a cheap place with a high quality of life.
There is a MEXICAN EMBASSY IN TEXAS THAT ONLY REQUIRE $1735, NOT ALL EMBASSIES ARE CREATED EQUAL WHEN IT COMES TO REQUIREMENT TO RETIRE IN MEXICO, THE NAME IS 'MCALLEN, TEXAS
Mexico has lost a boatload of revenue since Covid began and they're looking for ways to make it up. Just yesterday my girlfriend and I were stopped at the Tijuana border crossing and fined $454 (9,000 pesos) for "importing" more than $300 worth of goods. This was basically our luggage and a couple of "must have" small kitchen appliances our rental doesn't include. While waiting to pay the fine (there is no appeal), I noticed that only newer, more expensive cars with US plates were being stopped. Somebody needs to tell them that they're killing the Golden Goose.
Im so sorry to hear of your unfair penalty. In the future when entering Mexico make sure your items are NOT in the original box. Maybe in a plastic bag or in nothing is best. That "importing goods" is to prevent resale in Mexico. Appliances in Mexico are more expensive than in the US. Also to prove that they are used or are not going to be resold it is always advisable to put large stickers on the items. Stickers like maybe your favorite sports team, music groups..stuff like that. Apply a few on each item. I agree your observation of the expensive cars from the US being pulled over. One thing I did want to say is Mexico was one of very few countries open during COVID. People flocked to Mexico from all over the world. Lots of people coordinated with family/friends to meet in Mexico the entire time that the rest of the world was on lock down. How do I know?? Im a flight attendant and we tripled our flights during COVID to Mexico and still do...all over Mexico. There might have been some tourism lost but not in a huge way.
@@kellyname5733 I can't speak to overall tourism, but the hotels in Puebla (May '20), Oaxaca (September '20), Puerto Escondidio (January '21) and Puerta Vallarta (June '21) were mostly empty. Okay, June is low season for PV, so that made sense. I will definitely take your advice about the packaging. I always keep original boxes for transporting, but in hindsight, it gave them an excuse. Next time I'll drive my ratty old Jeep and not bring my girlfriend's frikken Keurig. It's MÉXICO after all!
@@Jeffhowardmeade Kelly has no clue. Anyone watching videos of Mexico in 2020 saw the EMPTY hotels and shuttered vacation spots that you mentioned.. Well except Kelly the know it all. LOL
people do not get the signs. Mexico needs to rise residence req for what's coming for the Union of North America in 2030. You better get your residency for Mexico granted now as financial req will go up & up. You'll look back as one of the best decisions for you & your family.
Everyone needs to be very careful.....the world is collectively spiraling into economic turmoil......massive inflation, supply chain disruptions, big oil & grain price spikes - poverty & desperation is going to explode worldwide but especially in Mexico, Central Amer. , S. America, Africa & S.E Asia - crime against foreigners perceived to be "wealthy" is going to get much worse through 2024 & possibly beyond.
Well at least Mexico has options to being legal in Mexico, not like the immigration nightmare North of the border. Also according to other youtube channels lots of people are still moving to Mexico for proximity and more.
It’s most likely do to the “low income” expats that move to Mexico and raise the cost of living for the everyday Mexican in those popular regions, a person with higher wealth won’t affect the everyday Mexican, they’ll but property up that’s to expensive for lower or even middle class Mexicans. An unfortunate side effect for the lovely people from the Us living there, is they’ll no longer be able to reside in Mexico.
Rael that might not be the case for those who already have a temporary visa or permanent visa or who are in the process. of obtaining citizenship. Nowhere is it written that the people already living in Mexico will be held to the new requirements. They might be grand fathered in.
Hmmmmm, this comments seems like it could be true/rational, but it also might not be. I'm not convinced. Dividing a country or a population into extremely wealthy and extremely poor with no middle class has historically NOT been a recipe for lasting peace and prosperity.
You only need a $1000 a month pension + $250 for your spouse to get the Pensionado visa in Panama! Plus you get a lot of discounts like 25% off airfare to anywhere in the world, 25% off utility bills, 50% off entertainment like a movie (only $2), 20% off at restaurants, and more!!
Great video Jordan. as usual. I love having all your info in one place. I took notes. It is disappointing I no longer see retiring /living in Mexico as possible but I will be visiting and looking at your videos to help my choices. Keep up the great work. thanks so much.
your amount for retirement visa in Ecuador is incorrect, it had been 400.00 per month until they raised the minimum wage to 425.00. and in last month or so the retirement visa requirements was raised to 1275.00 per month, or 3 times the minimum wage.
Medellin is the best option, perfect weather all year round, 38% cheaper than Mexico, only 3 hours from Miami, friendly people and more security than Mexico and above all drinking water from the tap.
I think this is because the pandemic and many US companies accepting or tolerating remote work policies, I know a lot of people that realized how easy it was to earn in US dollars and spend Mexican pesos, I think the Mexican government is just trying to protect the people from gentrification, basically, if the price of common items and consumables increases because of people with more purchasing power is visiting/staying in the country, it makes it almost impossible for locals to afford for those items and consumables
Gentrification IS already happening in places like Puerto Vallarta, Cabo San Lucas, San Miguel de Allende, Lago Chapala, etc which has quietly driven up housing costs. Check out some of the Realty websites in those areas. Some of the real estate prices are on par with the U.S.
Yes, I’m on social security and when I started planning for retirement in Mexico not 3 months later they raised the limit so I no longer qualify. I’ve been looking at the countries you mentioned as well as Turkey. I have friends there and researching it’s even less expensive than Mexico and a beautiful country. Check out UA-cam videos by a couple from Britain. Search Mick and Trudie.
@@user-tm1oy6ck4t Nobody said you are not welcome. Mexico is using a law that passed in 2016 using the La Unidad de Medida y Actualizacion (UMA). The daily minimum wage increased in Jan 2022. That is the formula for solvency in deciding the requirements. It is perfectly legal. I know nobody likes it, me included but that is the way it is for now. Mexico could change it, so stay tuned.
Great video, Jordan! I lived in Boquete, Panama for a time and had to go to Costa Rica every three months, then come back to get another tourist visa. I had to leave and I was one day over my visa and they charged me two hundred US dollars! Then I lived in Cotacachi, Ecuador. I gave a "consultant" three hundred and fifty US dollars and my passport to apply for residency. She stole my money and kept my passport. I went through hell getting a temporary passport to fly back to Canada, then she sent my now invalid passport back the day before I left. When I moved to Ajijic, Mexico and fell in love with it I returned to Canada to apply for temporary residency and squeeked in with sixteen hundred dollars a month Canadian. I was forced to return to Canada when I lost one of my pensions because I had been out of the country more than six months. I never planned to go back to Canada so I intended to apply again, but now the income requirement is about thirty-four hundred a month Canadian, so impossible to qualify now. I agree that Mexico is shooting itself in the foot because the locals count on people coming for the six months in the winter. With all the mess with not getting 180 day tourist visas anymore people aren't going to come to Mexico anymore. From my own experience I would definately go back to Ecuador because I would still qualify for residency.
I've heard other horror stories very recently about Panama's legal system and their corrupt lawyers, notaries. I would not go there for anything. Columbia sounds like the place to go now.
@@MrJx4000 Panama City is one of the world's money-laundering captials, which is why Trump has a big hotel there. Lots of high-level drug dealers there, the place reminds me of Miami (good & bad). There are nice small towns (e.g., Boquete & Volcan) in the highlands where the climate is more tolerable. Colombia is very nice, particularly the "coffee triangle" departments (states), Medellin, and the northeast side of Bogota. The coastal areas are OK to visit, but are not the place to live.
Gary, so where are you now? Did you qualify to enter Ecuador since they bumped up their monthly income minimum to U$1275 ? I'm looking at Turkey as they've become very affordable since their economic problems started (I'm following "Mick and Trudie" on Y.T. :-)
At least in the Baja (Tijuana/Rosarito) area, the cost of living is skyrocketing. Many local Mexicans cannot afford to rent in dollars. In many ex-pat areas, I think similar situations may be happening. The real east and cost of living expenses are going up. It is good that Mexico is growing economically, but to say or think that Mexico is a cheap place to live is not always true. Perhaps that is why they are increasing the income requirements. Here is a tip, try to have your own little business (food, service, something unique). It is so much cheaper to do business in Mexico or other Latin American countries than in the U.S.
Ecuador has in the past 2 years drug trafficking has gotten real bad. Belize is only safe in the resort but if away from resorts it is not safe for whites. Costa Rica is not very friendly and has gotten expensive. Uruguay is a good country but English is rare. Now Georgia is not a good with putin and Ukraine War. I am house hunting La Paz mexico. I have a sailboat so wish to be near water.
Just because of the increase of money needed? Lol you still dont need visa to enter Mexico, be worried when this happens, many americans are moving to Mexico, this country needs to have a way of regulate undeliberated migration, you have USD, its easy to have 2600 usd income
Really? So do tell me how because I have been busting my butt for 40 years and even with university it's often difficult to get that unless you live in a huge city. Then even if you do make that you can't afford to live in that big city
Been traveling through Mexico for the past 4 months on a tourist visa. Loved it so much that I'm going to get my citizenship. Luckily my mom was born in Mexico so that won't be too difficult. I'm grateful I won't have to go through all the hassle of applying for residency since I'm right on the fringe of the requirements. Still don't know what to think about the changes, only time will tell.
Hi Tony glad you're looking into becoming a dual citizen check out our video with all the steps to becoming a dual citizen as an american born with mexican heritage. Saludos! ua-cam.com/video/7sjATEkU6nU/v-deo.html
@Tony Welcome to the Motherland! Always remember that even if you don't have Mexican citizenship you're ethnically still Mexican, so you are part of Mexico and Mexico is a part of you. ¡Saludos, raza!
@57' Classic No hables por todos los mexicanos. Además, ¿a qué lenguaje te refieres? El español solo es uno de los 68 lenguajes y 350 dialectos que actualmente se hablan en México. Te recuerdo que el español es un lenguaje extranjero tal cual lo es el inglés. You don’t speak for all the Mexicans. Besides, what language are you referring to? The Spanish is just one of the 68 and 350 dialects currently spoken in Mexico. You should remember that the Spanish is a foreign language just like English is.
@@57Class I know the language 100% and can blend in just fine. I have passed by as a local numerous times by other locals. Spanish was my first language.
I find the title of your video a bit misleading. It feels as if you're trying to scare foreigners away. As if there weren't enough bad and biased news about Mexico. I know you're trying to inform people and just be straightforward, but the title doesn't help. Just my two cents.
When we visited Belize this year we were told that if you want to apply for residency in Belize you need to pay 100USD every 30 days for 50 weeks. Then you can apply for permanent residency, which involves proving financial solvency. After 5 years you can then apply for citizenship.
It's not in the plans and I already have residency in Mexico. With that said, I'm feeling less welcomed here than I have in the past and it seems like an increasing percentage of the Mexican population wants all foreigners to leave. If this trend continues, I might leave.
@@jkarma3356 it's the huge number and the fact it's illegal. What effects do you think that will have on this economy? Do you realize how much the cost of living has gone up here? Do you realize how much wages have decreased because of illegal people will take the same jobs for a lot lower pay? This is a big mess, mostly due to governments, not the people. The US has always lied to us about Mexico, now they're trying to get the citizens of both countries to hate each other. I don't know what to do about the situation, but I do see that I feel much less welcomed in Mexico and I wonder if the only reason I was ever welcomed was because of my money I spent there. I've always kinda felt like Mexico was jealous of the US. I learned from spending a lot of time in Mexico and South America that material things don't bring happiness and fulfillment. Well, maybe it's time that others learn this lesson.
@@trehugr4life naw the gringos have done everything in their power to mess things up for the mexians and latin americans and i see you watch fox news a lot most of the problems you listed are not on immigrants that is your own country if you do not want mexicans in america just be honest and say you do not like them and also do not be supresed when they return the same emotions also btw america is a dump these days.
I checked out Ecuador in 2014 but it’s not safe. Crime rate is high. My friend has to carry a loaded pistol in her purse and pulls it out on thieves about once a year.
it really depends on the city. Theft is big in Guayaquil, especially, if you are wearing jewelry or holding your $1,000 phone for all to see. Other cities like Cuenca are very safe.
Many countries are doing this...not just Mexico. Philippines...Thailand...same thing. Countries are getting more selective on who gets residency status while at the same time eliminating "border runs". I cant blame them. BTW...I moved to Mexico 4 yrs ago. Love it here. Culture, food, history, nice people and glorious never-ending sun! Pro Tip: Leave your American attitude north of the border and learn some Spanish.
Regrettably Americans are their own worst enemies. They don’t acclimate, they don’t learn the language and they criticize the crap out of everything. They live in another country looking down their nose. And to make matters worse, they are thankless about what they are being given. Of course the locals are going to be put off by that. If you can’t live in a different culture and learn to respect and admire others stay in the States. But if you’re broke self can’t live where you were born and you don’t do a damn thing to change the laws that protect corporations, and you have to immigrate then be grateful and shut the hell up!!!
Check out the "I Go Panama" UA-cam channel. The woman made comparisons between Costa Rica, Belize and Panama and made the decision to go to Panama which she explained in a couple of videos. Everything else have been about living Panama including getting visas and a referral to a lawyer she used to secure their visa (with her husband).
Thank you YF Khan! I will check it out. I think like there is a right fit for everyone. I am grateful that you shared this information and perspective on Panama.
MEXICO changed its migration rules due to the massive wave of south American immigrants mostly from Venezuela and Argentina. It applies to everyone not only expats I guess .
Just moved to Mexico, and the easiest way to get temporary residency right now is through regularization. No financial requirements and it is valid for four years instead of one.
I was told by an attorney in Querétaro that they quit doing that back around the end of 2020 and then I later read about INM initiating an investigation on those INM offices that continued to do it in exchange for bribes.
I know that INM in Cancun has a history of being very corrupt. When maddie was renewing her residency there, if she didn’t pay a $1200 USD bribe her application was moved to the bottom of the pile. It took a year to get it renewed when it was supposed to happen in a few days. All because she didn’t pay the bribe.
Hi there Jordon...as of yesterday, Ecuador has raised their financial minimum to $1275. I had to cross Mexico off my list because of their 22% hike in financial requirements as of January 2022. Now, Ecuador will have to be put off for a bit.
I think with that number you're looking at their digital nomad visa where you had to have earned $1,275 over the last 3 months or $15,300 over the past year.
@@TangerineTravels No, I saw it posted on a Cuenca website and then contacted my facilitator and she confirmed it. It had gone down to $400 when the pandemic hit, then I believe it went up to $425...and now it's tripled. This info just came out yesterday and will be published within the next week.
@@TangerineTravels Nope Jordan that is the "new" requirement $1275 for expats/pensioner. Ecuador is still drafting the details for the other programs. The new rules are not set in stone yet. We'll see
You're spot on about Ecuador. The minimums have increased a bit since you made this video, but still a far cry from those of Mexico. And with direct flights from Quito to the US, getting back to see family is not terribly time-consuming. We lived in Mexico for two years about 10 years ago, and now live in Ecuador. The cultures are very similar (minus the mariachi music--we don't have that! 😃). And like many countries, Ecuador now has a digital nomad visa. Plus, we're on the US dollar so no currency conversion issues. Great video--very informative.
I really want to visit Mexico. I have not been there. I want to visit Mexico City, Teotihuacan, and Oaxaca. I just want to feel a bit safe when travelling and meet genuine/friendly people.
@@saraswatkin9226 They don't have $$ 4 food. But that shouldn't be your problem with the American dollar. Besides this was humor, perhaps instead of being confrontational, you should mellow out.
It seems to me Mexico is purposefully making it harder to obtain residency for some reason. I have an idea of why they are doing this, however, I don’t want to speculate. Thanks for the information.
Great info, and some of us would love to know - What are the requisites in all these countries concerning covid shots? What countries would deny entry or tourist visa or residency to the unjabbed people? Which ones if any are still doing lockdowns and mask requirements?
Fun fact: All these countries also have updated, official government websites listing the mandates, health and border rules - among other important tidbits. 🤔😬🌎
i say live where the neighbors give you a real genuine smile and are really happy to see you. i may leave to go work elsewhere only for a short while but then i will return to where everyone likes and respects each other most if not all of the time.
Jordan, I really liked this video. I had tried to get a retirement visa in Mexico early last year and was rejected twice, due to rising income requirements. In my search for other countries, I liked Georgia very much, but in my research, rejected the idea, as Russia has invaded this county in the recent past, and just may do so again. I finally decided on Colombia and spent a month there last year, got a visa and Residence Permit. Beautiful country, great food and scenery. Low cost of living and friendly people. I did find out that there are fewer English speakers there than my other choices, so learning Spanish is a must.
Best video yet. Especially the info on Georgia. It wasn't a country we had considered initially so thank you for pointing it out. We'll definitely look into it in further detail.
Don't be afraid of the Russians. As long a country is not killing Russian people in their country like Ukraine does in the Donbas erea, or a danger American Cat4 Biolab build next to the Russian border that leaks Smallpox virusses, like Ukraine does, the Russians are oké. Ukraine was warned several times....
Thanks for sharing the video Jordan. I had plans to retire in Mexico but had to cancel due to the new Mexican visa requirements. I'll start looking into the places you mentioned in this video. I miss the videos when you and Maddie were together. I completely respect the reasoning of the break up and glad you two are staying friends. I once was a subscriber and if you find a way to branch the channel into separate ones I'll resubscribe to yours. Her videos are nice but not for me with all due respect to her. Until then I just type in Tangerine Tavels to see who's video was posted. Thanks again for the videos.
Thanks for reconsidering. Sometimes it is best that life takes people to new place and new cultures. Visa requirements are really strict everywhere yet some have more open and easier access. Nothing in life can come easy.
I've been working, saving, and living frugally for years, hoping to move to Mexico one day. For the past 2 years ive been seeing how a lot of Mexico citizens really feel about us in the US (NOT ALL, but definitely a lot more than i ever thought). I'm checking out Belize now.
@@jkarma3356 Dont speak for me and many others. If we want to expat to Mexico we have to provide a way to sustain ourselves. Every country should have the same/similiar requirements.
@@mimi7914 They are looking for work and a chance to live without being terrorized by local gangs or their government. And the work they do is often the work citizens here don't want to do; try picking lettuce all day or working in a meatpacking plant or being a nanny. Some know how to drive trucks, and could help with the supply issues we're having.
The US don't let anyone in. Moving legally to the US is quite hard and getting in without a visa is next to impossible. Most people die trying it. Most people just overstayed their visas.
@@leoperez6737 There have been an estimated 3 million people who have entered the US through the southern border since the current regime was installed into the White House along with those who overstay their visas. With all the problems in the US, many wonder how those people will survive with the high cost of living? Many US citizens are moving to Mexico for a better quality of life and a lower cost of living.
@@status-xk8kr Considering the current admin. is applying Title 42 and Remain in Mexico policy, I have issues believing that. Perhaps there are 3 millions applicants for refugee status, but you need to consider that they are refugees, people fleeing from gangs and when the US goverment denies their refugee status they get deported.
I guess I'm lucky that I applied for residency in Mexico when I did. My Social Security is only about $1600 monthly and I got my permanent residency in February of 2022. I'm liviing quite comfortably on that income in Hermosillo,
Hi there Jordan! Regarding Belize, you did a great job describing the QRP, but there is another option: you can simply move to Belize and stay on a tourist visa and renew it every 30 days for 12 consecutive months, and after that you can apply for permanent residency, as long as you don’t leave Belize for more than two weeks during the first year.
@@TangerineTravels For the ordinary tourist visa and permanent residency, I’m not aware of any age or income restrictions, as long as you can support yourself while you’re in the country.
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They can raise it for expats already living there?
@@debraemilligan Once you have residency you don't have to worry about future increases
@@TangerineTravels I have a residente temporal.It expires in 18 months and i'm supposed to transition automatically to residente permanente.However,if they ask if i meet the new financial requirements for the permanent visa i'll be screwed.Will they ask me for 6 months of financial statements?
@@darrellknox9581 They will probably ask your for bank statements but I've never heard about anyone getting denied a renewal or an upgrade to permanent once they already have residency
@@k_and_m8745 Based on the comments, it seems your right about the recent change to 1275 for the retiree visa. Also, they have a new digital nomad visa that's pretty appealing! Thanks for the info about the renewal options for the tourist visa!
Honestly i think this is a good step for Mexico and the people living there because most land is being bought up by foreigners. That causes the prices to rise for locals who make $100 per week maybe less
Tell me Eduardo how does drastically increasing the dollar requirements to expat to Mexico helps the locals??
@@kellyname5733You're right. I've been coming to surf and camp in Mexico for over 40 years. I liked it when it was more for the rugged type of traveler. When you knew where everything wasn't going to be easy getting there. They made some parts of Mexico too comfortable for usually picky, wealthier people who didn't come for any of the culture but came to mingle only with their type. Heard that's happening in Lake Chapala, they've made it so the locals can't afford to live in town anymore and some are even demanding the vendors to start speaking English! Saying that, I still think I should be able to get residency with over 12 times the minimum wage, or at least a guarantee of being able to stay for a full 180 days. I know the villages I stay in are always happy to see me!
The foreigners buying that land will still qualify and still buy, most never become residents.
@@kellyname5733 this doesn't make any sense
Just like the US is being bought up by foreign investors.
Great facts & explanations.
Glad you liked it! I appreciate the super thanks!
As a "permanent resident" and home owner in Mexico I am happy that Mexico feels that their economy is strong enough to start being more selective regarding the financial security of potential residents. This action complements their already tough position on illegal aliens. I don't think "ease of entry" is the best criteria for somebody looking for a place to retire. Visit as many countries as you can, stay as long as you can, and learn as much as you can about them; then, make your decision.
thank you for being so understanding, you are the type of people we like having in mexico
If we could afford to go visit the world then maybe we would find somewhere else. I want the Mexican culture I grew up with living in the Hispanic area in Las Vegas NV.. the year round climate.. and still be close to the USA for family . I hardly think what I make is ease of entry! Where we are in the USA, housing went from 500 a month to 1500 for the same neighborhood. Same house.
@@kellyname5733 Maybe because they don't want foreigners to treat their nation as a big retirement home.
@@kellyname5733 a police officer make no more than 600 a month....
@@mikelbrenn111 Keep in mind Mikel that American tourists/expats spend 24 Billion in Mexico each year. Every country wants 24 Billion to flow into their country.
I live in Panama for eight years, boring compared to Mexico. Mexico is so much better.
@@MrSgtau *vomit* such an ironic statement, and if you made it here in the USA about the lovely south of the border "immigrants", you would be immediately roasted for racism.
@@Skiis44 We, as potential shopping mexican tourists, prefer to go to Europe because we are more concerned of the massive shootings perpetrated by insane idiots in your country 🙄🙄🙄
What a coincidence!
@@karlvaneyck You don't have many massive shootings but crime and homelessness have definitely increased here. I haven't travelled anywhere outside the USA recently due to Covid. Hopefully that will be over soon.
We found that the people of Panama are not as happy as Mexicans
@@Cwra1smith No really is only the beginning for agenda 21, you will owe nothing and be happy.
Mexico has been an incredibly welcoming, open country for a long, long time. Was it taken for granted?
I'd say yes, and in some instances it was abused as usually happens in diferent levels and aspects in life so now everyone pays
minimum wage in the last year gone up alot which affects so this is not surprising at all just in 2022 ot increase 23 percent so no not surprising
@@benchoflemons398 LMAO, you’ve never been here. There’s tons of business run by wealthy foreigners.
He’s absolutely not an example of a grateful person.
Don't be so quick to blame former beneficiaries. Could be simple inflation, simple supply and demand realities. Could be nobody's "fault". Thise who don't really understand human nature, economic levers, or how things work are always looking for scapegoats who supposedly "caused" others to become harsher with them.
Mexico is really one of the most amazing countries!!! Not only is it huge, but there are sooo many different places! Beaches, mountains, deserts, jungles, volcanos - you can explore Mexico for years and still not see it all! 😍😍😍
yup and it's minimum wage gone up to alot which affects the price raises so not surprising
Natalie, I can explore the world for years and I don t see it all
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Can you explain this in more detail?
@@moreno-lh7ys Spoken like a true Mexicana! Sweet! Not all humans are deep like you are. Perfectly said. 🤗😁
@@moreno-lh7ys 🙏🏻
Well to be honest I don't like the title of this video, "Mexico shoot it self in the foot", really? is that what you think? that Mexico is really losing an opportunity? I have nothing negative to say about the new regulations I think is something that concern to us in our country and shouldn't be a subject of judgement,, I bet most of your subscribers are Mexicans or at least 50/50, so to be fair why not a comparison between what it takes for a Mexican to get legal residence in USA, France, Germany, Italy, England or Spain? I want to believe that a person that really love Mexico as their new home will do the effort to get the residence if you want to go to a place just because its easier or you get a better bang for your buck I think the world is full of alternatives, I don't think that we are really "losing" an opportunity, Mexico will stay open to anybody that want to come here and be part of our culture and impact in a positive way to our economy and society.
It's a bit weird to see people reacting this way when for someone like me, young woman with a college degree, no kids/single, okayish English would take me thousands of dollars and 40! years until i get a green card/US citizenship. But I get it, they're not used to meet a lot of requirements, that's why I don't take it personally, I don't think we Mexicans should take it personally, his channel's main audience is American/Canadians so it only makes sense Jordan is talking to them, not us :)
Yes, I do think that. I estimate that these changes will force 500,000 Americans and Canadians to choose other countries instead of Mexico. Conservatively, the average of whom would be spending $1,500 USD/month in Mexico. That's about $9,000,000,000 USD in economic activity every year. From that, the Mexican government will collect about $2,700,000,000 in taxes. The remaining $6,300,000,000 will be spent back into the economy generating that much more economic activity plus another $2,000,000,000 in taxes. The remaining $4,000,000,000 will be spent back into the economy, generating another $1,200,000,000 of taxes and so on until the government has collected the full amount in taxes.
So, because of these changes, every year Mexico will be losing 10s of billions of dollars in economic activity and billions of dollars in tax revenue. Maybe Mexico doesn't need several billion dollars a year, but it sure doesn't hurt.
@@TangerineTravels May I ask where you get your numbers from? 500k USA and Canadians wanting to move here? In what period of time? According to wikipedia there are around 800k Americans and just 13k Canadians living in Mexico, and surely it took a lot of years to grow to that number, decades most likely. I don't think we will be losing billions from expats not living here, surely you know our first source of income is what our own expats send from the USA to their families here, and that is 4.4 billions USD, according to the government. I too understand how youtube works and the need for catchy titles, and to be honest, I think anyone wanting to come here should do their own research and contact a good lawyer.
@@TangerineTravels Jordan, thanks for replying I really find hard to believe that we are talking about 500k I think the last statistics that I found indicate that around a million US citizens have permanent residence status and the number of Canadians is really low, between 15 and 18k, 500k is the half of the permanent residents but let's say that your number is right and I do believe your other estimations are correct because all that come from your experience living here, to me what matters the most is how many of those 500k really wanted to move from a temporary status to a permanent one because we have been listening for years that many temporary residents were constantly violating the temporary visa of 180 days, if my memory is not failing the fee for exceeding the 180 days was really low so nobody really considering important to left the country on time so I want to believe the new regulations are only temporary to discourage all the travelers that were not following the rules, changes not necessarily have to be permanent, just let me clarify something because one time I left a comment in one of your previous videos and everything went totally out of control, last time I checked my comment had hundreds of replies many of them completely negative and my replies come with a total respect to you as a person, this is not US vs Mexico or US citizen vs Mexican citizen is just an opinion we are not fighting here, take care!
I paid a total 6500k to USCIS to get my green card here in the US, there was one particular paper they needed from me, I sent it 3x and 3x they said they didnt get it so they would cancel my process and each time I had to appeal It cost 700 to appeal a motion….
I wish it was that easy to get permanent residence to US, here the only option is via marriage (besides those asylee and refugee situations) but I just had 1 option.
I don’t think they have shot themselves in the foot. I think they’re tired of the riff-raf that were coming to Mexico for a cheap lifestyle (and cheap alcohol). One of the things I love about tangerine travels is that the channel was about culture, food, language, where as now your focus seems to moving more toward value for money, cheap finds, and how you can have a mansion in Mexico for the price of a shack in the USA. That should not be what promoting living in Mexico should be about or even be a focus. Moving to Mexico to save money will loose its charm within 6 months tops. Let’s focus on promoting Mexican culture rather than what a bargain it is!
I see both sides of this argument. Culture and language is important. I also see that many people outside of Mexico are looking for a more affordable living option. So I can see why that change has occurred.
Speak for yourself dude, been in GDL for 7 months mostly to saving money and hasn't lost charm at all. Stop being a Karen.
I don't know where you're getting cheap alcohol. It's more expensive here than it is in the States. And nobody is getting a "mansion" here on the cheap either.
I just looked at the income requirements for residency in Mexico. For permanent residency you need to have over $5000 a month for the last 6 months. I'm lucky I applied when I did because I have nowhere near that amount. I'm living well on my $1600 Social Security payment. It's puzzling.
They have become greedy and will regret it in due time.
Mexico simply wants to make sure you're sending your best.😂
Great comment, so ironic right?
As Mexico floods the United States with it's worst.
@@leeread6757 we're not that bad are we?
@@fernandosoto5824 right? Mexican ex pats living in the United States have a much harder path to legal residency. Can I call us ex pats, or are we immigrants because we're brown? 🤔
@@marcoarreola9058 Exactly that is why I think the focus of this video is unfair specially considering that a good percentage of their audience is Mexican, you have to analyze the subject from different angles.
If expats found another country that they likes it, perfect, its ok. I'm sure Mexico still remains as a Wonderful place to live for everyone and forever. I'm very happy that in Mexico a lot of things are really changing for good.
You are so right, but now I'm so sad about the new changes that make me unqualified for retirement visa and let me tell you this: I love México but sadly is not for me now.
Yes mi Mexico es lo mejor que todos, but sad to say with alot of changes Mexico made people will be looking for the next cheap and easy country.. this move might have been good in some ways but it may end up hurting Mexico in the end!
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@@raquelhernandez1209 though so many baby boomers are near/at retirement age, Mexico may not see much of a dip in immigration overall.
Changing for good how so? I mean, more complicated immigration law it's still the same.
Jordan, I like what you're doing with your channel, (post break). Sometimes "we walked here, we ate that" is fine but solid info for the traveler helps so much more. It's nice to hear other travelers takes on places to investigate. Cheers.
Great comment
I Most def agree 👍🏽 great direction for the channel, valuable insights
it's is June 2023 and now Mexico requires $3100 USD per month for temporary residency.
Great video. I have heard from friends who retired in Portugal that its getting more and more crowded on the Algarve and other spots on the coast. This is what always happens..places become popular and prices go up! Some places in costa rico as well. I think Mexico is doing the right thing for their people.
You heard correctly. Portugal is incredibly busy! It is the most popular among digital nomads. Maaaany are buying properties, so there is more restrictions now.
I just returned from Costa Rica. Better have some deep, deep pockets, if you're considering there...And, you can certainly count on the prices increasing...
First of all, you’re wrong. Ecuador now requires proof of $1200/month income. The professional visa is for professionals that they are interested in, I. doctors, attorneys etc. NOT just a college degree.
I went to Panama last year. I went with Panama Relocation Tours. We visited all areas. It will cost me more to live there than in the US unless I want to live in a shack. The only thing cheaper was local food. To anyone wanting to relocate there, you have to have a FBI background check. Any felonies and yes, that includes a DUI and even if it has be expunged. I do not have any felonies but, a lot of people spend a lot of money to rent or buy only to be struck down and loose everything. Better have a good attorney as well. I highly recommend the tour. They cover everything, hold your hand, and make sure you are not taken advantage of. I qualify for Mexico as well. I’m going on the Mexico Relocation Tour soon. Same people and I trust them. Follow both on you tube for a wealth of knowledge. Knowledge is power.
@@jmaatgreen7894 We've had fabulous medical care in Mexico. Another advantage is that we're just over half an hour to Guadalajara airport - so easy to go back to visit family in Canada. We've lived here almost 17 years and love it.
It's not a permanent measure. We all know all countries modify their migration laws as they see fit. This temporary measure is looking to weed out some bad apples, and at the same time, it will end up encouraging more people to seek Mexican citizenship. There is no law in North America prohibiting anyone from having two or three citizenships.
@@moreno-lh7ys Thank You, I've added your endorsement to the multiple others I've received.
Nope sorry to inform the us of a but
1. Mexicos president is already almost done with Mexicos biggest refinery that will supply EVERY mexican with more than enough & affordable prices even enough to export millions of barrel to other countries.
2. he is making a train to connect 5 states to allow the people for faster travel to the city for work and faster travel for security and public benefit
3. (Panama HAD the only canal in NA)a canal in mexico is being made and should be done sooner than later w mexicans desperate to rebuild quickly it will alow for asian trade specifically china who the usa doesn’t want to do business with 🤣
4. THIS year the miltary is cracking down on cartels more than ever and obrador is planning to take all the money that the goverments robbed from the people as they are traitors to the country
In the end idk why you mad mexico is finally tired of being shit on by the usa because hispanics have been doing bad because USA wants weak neighbors so they’re not a risk 🤡
They are MIGRATING to USA the border is open to all invaders
We are foreigners with permanent residency living in Mexico and paying all taxes here. Mexico is cracking down because most of these foreigners are just permatourists driving the costs for the locals up, yet not paying any taxes here, or contributing to society. I know this firsthand, this happens in Codesa/Roma in CDMX in excess, hence we agree that it was time Mexican GOVT put an end to this. If you want to live in another country: pay your taxes there, learn the language and culture, and contribute to society. If not, just stay in USA.
Did you not see in twitter last week the backlash that US woman got for suggesting people move to Mexico.
Yeah, I'm going through the residency process right now. It's a hassle, but their country, their rules.
Yes, there is a reason why these requirements are in place.
Actually, tourists do pay taxes. Tourist visas $25. Then the hotel taxes and hidden sales taxes etc. You can say they are driving up costs but they are also contributing to the local economy. I have my permanente too, but I don’t resent the people on tourist visas. I think you are only focusing on the negative.
It’s hilariously ironic though that if you’re an American and you say the same thing about illegal Mexicans, you’re considered racist
I hope that the Mexican government takes measures regarding the regulation of tax collection from immigrants who decide to live in Mexico, in order to protect the purchasing power and price regulation in favor of Mexicans.
I think Mexico will continue to he attractive to people because of their infrastructure, closeness to USA and I think it's easier for folks from states etc to adjust to. It's really going to deter people who are too poor to afford residency and folks that were planning to stay long term on tourist visas.
Well, I hope people think twice, mexico has its own rules and many cartels run the place.
A year later & Ecuador is now $1350 / month - or - 3 times their 2023 minimum wage of $450 / month. -- Still not too bad. -- Cuenca is a very popular expat city in the mountains. There is enough English there you actually need little Spanish. - - - Siem Reap Cambodia remains a very cheap retirement destination & cheap visa fees as well ! - - - Georgia has been flooded with Russians from avoiding the war in Ukraine and prices for rents have really gone up !
This info is NOT ACCURATE about Mexico.. Many states in Mexico are currently allowing long term visas for 'regularization', or humanitarian reasons for at least 4 years WITHOUT showing income. JUST did this a few weeks ago. You pay about $800-$1000 flat fee, varies by state and timing. PEOPLE ARE RECEIVING VISAS HERE LEFT AND RIGHT though laws change by the day. Each state has different laws. MEXICO IS WELCOMING PEOPLE SO PLEASE CHECK LOCAL LAWS AND CONSULT AN ATTORNEY rather than just an expat traveler's info.
With all due respect, a lot of good info on this site but not true about Mexico right now.
thanks. great video. I've been in Mexico 4 Years and sick of it already and getting too expensive.
Perhaps it would be worthwhile to add to your analysis the reasons why Mexico took these measures. It would be interesting. Without that context it is hard to know if Mexico shoot itself in the foot or not. Seems that Mexico wouldn't add these requirements if it did not think there were also some benefits of doing so. More context and a broader overview would make your video more interesting. Sure, I understand that you have a main target audience, i.e. Americans thinking about relocating abroad, but I am sure you could share a deeper perspective on the context given that you have spent so many years in Mexico now. This could be interesting to other smaller segments of you audience , e.g. me.
Thank you !!!! He missed alot in this video glad I'm not the only who thought that
Andres I agree. They could be cutting off billions of expat $$.
correct, he went for the "Click bait" and doesn't understand that this isnt the way to earn trust in his videos. I hated the title.
Look up the UMA. It's basically a law that was passed in 2016 to keep Government fees low. It's the law and is used for Governmental processes in Mexico, but was never applied to the Economic Solvency requirements like it should have been when the law was passed. Since 2016 "They" keep saying they are going to change it.
Exactly! it only "shoots itself on the foot" when the people who exploits the system finally stops benefitting from it.
Mexico fallen out of favor not just because the 2600 dollar a month
but because the rent shooting up so much higher so quick.
At this moment and for some time to come, I would not consider Georgia or any eastern European countries as a place to reside. One has to take into account the military conflict that is taking place in that part of the world. Georgia in particular already had confrontation with Russia some years ago. In fact, I would say the safer places to be in case of a world conflict would be Uruguay, southern Brazil, Chile and perhaps Argentina. As far as countries where obtaining a retirement visa is easier, Portugal is the one in western Europe. Now rents have gone up A LOT in Lisbon and Porto. Buying an apartment there is also super expensive, but there are other more affordable options in Portugal and it is a very safe country, as far as crime is concerned. In this part of the world, Panama is hot and humid all year and expensive as well. People depend on the automobile even in places like Panama City almost as much as in the US. Ecuador is a good option. Uruguay is the most expensive country in Latin-America, followed by Chile or perhaps they are tied. Argentina, on the other hand, is very cheap, but suffers from high inflation and other problems. It still offers good healthcare, and you could even attend the university there for free.
Russia is just putting an end to war thats been happening on their border past 8 years, which should hopefully make all European nations, more secure,,
Luis, I almost swallowed my chaw when I saw your comment about free university! Really? How do they prevent large numbers of, say Chinese for example, from just arriving to study. You may not may not know that Cambodia has been overrun by the Chinese in recent years...
Yes, potential conflict in Eastern Europe does concern me. I'd be hesitant to relocate there long term. This was true even before the current Russian invasion of Ukraine.
Make no mistake. If Putin is successful in Ukraine,he’s going after Georgia. His words.
@@debbie4938 I've wondered about that very thing.
So, Mexico finally catches up. What is the cost to become US resident for foreigners? Oh wait, next to impossible. You may also read up on requirements, in Mexico you need about $225000 for PR either in Money in the Bank or a property equal to it. I remember it's 147K for TR. Coming from Europe living In Canada having a certain way of live Mexico is the next best thing regarding stores. I have been in Ecuador, forget it to find big box stores, also to Portugal. You cant live anywhere in Europe till you are citizen of one of the European countries. I think look to the US sure its cheaper to live there, lol
Great, yes Europe would be better for Europeans.
You always can go down in budget and find a mosquito swamp in asia or south america to " live" for 300 usd a month...but the question here is... ¿ is that what you want ? and what are the implications of that?
Is that even possible no
Now?
If I had money for a $300,000+ house, I wouldn't need to leave the USA. lol This teacher's salary isn't cutting it! The house I'm building in Mexico is only $24,000 + $15,000 for the land.
Where are you able to build for that price?! My husband and I (with our 2 kids) moved to Mexico last year and we’re looking for a $30k-ish house but not finding much online. We’re flexible on which city we settle in and price is our biggest factor right now.
@@jenniferposton3869 Nowhere anyone else goes...small town outside of Pachuca and I'm also working with local people, not people that specialize in expats so they jack up the price
@@jenniferposton3869 It is quite low, but have you consider Tampico? near city center probably is to expensive, but outside the city you may find a suitable place or a small apartment. I know Tamaulipas has a bad rep, but Tampico is a nice place to live.
NGL I’m happy Mexico is doing this , it’s getting too expensive for locals in some places like Oaxaca. The only thing that sucks is that a lot of locals also depend on these people to make a living , luckily Mexicans are resilient and always find a way 🤗💕
I think the big difference is going that ONLY people with lots of money will be getting residency. They will continue to drive prices up.
I was wondering about that. How to balance opportunities for locals versus attracting foriegners who will spend cash at local businesses. Many big US cities are struggling with similar issues at gentrification sweeps through what had been working class areas pricing out people who've lived in areas for decades, generations even.
I don't mind paying my fair share to live there. It's climate I'm looking for and the culture and food.. but I can't afford to live in my own country with the crazy cost of Healthcare and the winters here are killing me
@@sdrockrgirl My sister was early retired years ago from a large corp. She decided to keep the same coverage her job had offered. Job paid the first year. Cost her about $1k/month after that. This was a solid but not amazing plan. She's over 65 now so she has much cheaper coverage but still! I'm hoping to avoid that entirely by leaving the US. I don't want to throw away tens of thousands on medical coverage in order to retire here before age 65..
@Viqui Aye thing is this.. I make more than what is considered the top 1 percent in mexico.. but.. they want you to make even more than what I make to get residency. Doent mexico understand people like me want a great climate and would rather spend all of our money there? You would thing that people who seriously want to be there and are learning the language and make decent money would be accepted.
Georgia is an absolutely wonderful country with a very inexpensive cost of living by most standards. The food is indeed off the charts and Tbilisi a great blend of modern and traditional architecture. The one year visa on arrival is simply hard to beat. I’ve been 5 or 6 times now and I love the Republic of Georgia.
Toi close to Russia for my liking.
@@catherinemelnyk That’s understandable it’s probably cold too.
@@donald8354 Considering Russia had a brief invasion into Georgia and the same nut is still at the helm, why take a chance?
In the area of unintended consequences, because the minimum income requirement for foreigners is tied to the Mexican minimum wage which is rising every year (it's still too low IMHO) it is making it difficult for many Mexicans in some areas to find affordable rental housing. The government really needs to separate these two things because the people coming in from America and Canada for the last few years have a lot of disposable income. Another thing to note is that all embassies do not all stick to the income rules absolutely. I have lived in Mexico for 11 years now.
From América what you mean Argentina , Chile, Colombia ,Perú, Paraguay, Uruguay, Ecuador, Venezuela, etc, etc,etc,
I am still amazed that the requirements and documentation can vary from embassy to embassy. That's just wild to me.
@@venanciobernabe7334 Ya sabes que los norteamericanos le dicen a su país America, no te hagas
@@venanciobernabe7334
No. In English speaking nations we do not teach that there is one continent; we are taught that north and South America are two separate continents. Therefore, we speak of the Americas when speaking of this hemisphere as a whole.
@Susan Elliott
Eleven years?
And haven't learned much about geography in Mexico haven't you?
America vs USA? un niño de segundo grado te ayudaría a entenderlo un poco mejor... eleven years 🙄😒!!
Vaya, vaya. El gentrificador sintió la gentrificación en carne propia. (Wow, wow. The gentrifier felt gentrification firsthand)
¡Viva, México! This country actually has an immigration policy and has every right to say adios to those expats who don’t meet their minimum requirements. Yet another plus for why amazing México is an excellent option for anyone who has his or her shit together.
But USA has no right to reject poor Mexicans?
@@val91201 That’s the USA’s problem/decision/choice; and can’t be blamed upon México. The problem with the USA is that common sense is, well, not all that common. After the conman’s 2016-2020 reign, the USA has lost its moral authority to comment on any other country worldwide.
P.S. The USA benefits from economically abusing the immigrants from México. How many strawberries have you picked and toilets have you scrubbed today?
@@val91201 expats…expats. They were talking about expats babe.
The U.S. should require the same $2000. Then my tax dollars will not be spent on a million illegal immigrants.Why are all these Mexicans entering the U.S illegally if Mexico is so great.I say deny them entry and let Mexico take care of their own.
So many countries are underrated. I wanna visit Albania one day. People say "why on earth would you go to a place like that?". Well, because it's cheap, it's safe, Enver Hoxha hasn't been the dictator since 1991, and it shares the same coast line with Greece and Croatia for a fraction of the cost.
I went to Albania with my friend two and half years ago, as two females…i was a bit worried, when we went in a private car, not knowing the person, to see the sites, the Blue Eye, and the lookout view of the ocean. The driver went out of his way to look after us. The people are so friendly and helpful. You will love it there.
Croatia has its affordable spots too.
Albania is a wonderful country. Tirana and the coast made for a fun trip.
I had a good experience with albania too
How easy is it to get around with English (or French)? I speak a good chunk of French and a small amount of Spanish which I'm working on, but Albania is a whole other language, sharing absolutely nothing with any other Romance Languages
I am glad my country is doing something to get rid of this "tourism" that doesnt help anyone.
24 Billion is spent in your country by American tourists/expats per year. Just about any country on the planet would love to have that money flowing through their country. And I'm sure the Mexican Govt. loves it too
Tourism is welcome, but migrants make life actually hard for people who actually was born and rised there. The price of rent in popular places all around the globe declined because of covid, but in mexico city, the prices actually rised because migrants are filling the holes that actual mexicans left, because they can pay it with their minimum salary. Try living here with the minimum salary here and it's hell, live with minimum salary from a developed country and you live like a king... and business people treat you like a king. I don't like feeling like a second-rate citizen in my own city, in my own town, when businesses give preferential tratment to migrants. I have a friend who lives in Cancún, and she told me this happened to her all the time over there, I thought it was unfair and annoying, but it was understandable because of the hefty tourism there, but that started to leak into cities, and that started to be problematic. So maybe the gov is into something for taking this measures.
@@kellyname5733 still doesnt cover the BS Mexico has had to deal with since 1848.
Thanks you, this guy clearly is just in it for the money. That’s why I love xyz, cyz, now. 🤦♀️ this guy in no doubt will move and I’m ok if he does. We don’t need greedy people like him. 80,000 especially from an American salary and economy can be more attainable since he is from that country but 80,000 to a resident and local is like 300,000 (this is not really but saying this in perception of it). Those people don’t sell tacos for 2 dollars because they think it’s cheap, they see it at that because many locals will think it’s a common range price. If someone were to say that fast food some meals are 11 dollars now, and say that’s cheap, most people will be surprised that you think that. Especially if you are paying for more than one person. I don’t know what rich country would think that but saying it in a perspective where our prices are low would be crazy.
@@minnie.-.l Minnie what is xyz & cyz?
Lived in Ecuador and left. High crime and the Mexican drug cartels are in charge. Safety has a price.
We lived in Costa Rica for a little over a year and decided early on that we weren't going for residency until at least 1 year. The reason was that "border runs" every 90 days were easy and cheap and the cost of residency was fairly expensive. Generally, it was around $2,500 or so (and lots of paperwork) per person. So, we saved $5,000 by deciding not to get residency. We just made border runs and visited back home (USA) every so often. Residency there got you free medical through their socialized medicine (most expats choose private health care), not having to leave every 90 days and a few other perks. It just wasn't worth the money for us. My advice, don't buy a house and get residency for at least 1 year and DO enjoy the experience!
My point exactly. Sometimes having a residency does not make sense when you consider all the hassle and expense.
That was an interesting and informative video / espisode.
Channels not the same since the breakup. No spark anymore
Wow, what a great video! I'm glad I've already been able to get our Mexican residency before the income requirements went up. However, knowing how to get residency in other countries is beyond helpful. Thank you!
One of your best Jordan thank you. As a Canadian who needs to make his Pension go as far as possible, Canada's cost of living increases could see a lot of Pensioners becoming homeless even though they may be making $1800. per month. The possibility of being able to have a far better standard of living simply by choosing s different location is just what many of us need. Very useful information.
Georgia is interesting, but with the war that just started in Ukraine, I'm afraid that things may change quickly. The only bad thing about Georgia is unfortunately its location. Iran and Iraq at the South and Ukraine/Russia at the north. I hope things don't get worse than they are in that corner of the world, but things don't look promising as of now. 🥺
Yeah, as an European citizen I can see that at the moment south America is more relaxed than Europe or the middle east... Unfortunately.
You’re absolutely right, and also one thing that some people don’t mention when analyzing locations is whether or not it is safe for LGBT people, which I am not convinced that Georgia is
Georgia is run by the Mafia. Clownish comment.
Agreed. Wayyyy too much ethnic conflict within and around Georgia. Also, Georgia has just 4% arable land (compared to 17% for US). Food scarcity will always be a problem. Hard no.
We tried Mexico only ended up in Portugal and very happy we did. You're right about the paperwork and the cost of alcohol. It's shocking how inexpensive beer and wine is. Plus there's lots of healthy fruits and vegetables available at an incredible price all year long. You forgot to mention that Portugal is also offering digital nomads incredible tax rates for 10 years...so a great way to build and save wealth. Not as tropical as Mexico and probably not as flavourful when it comes to food...only an incredibly safe country with friendly people and no freezing winters!
Very true Portugal is one of the best places for Crypto investing / trading as well.
I had the pleasure of going to Portugal in 19 and fell in love with this beautiful humble country and people. We went to Lisbon, Porto and Lagos and yeah we were surprised on how affordable it is. It is more of a socialist country which explains the bureaucracy.
Jordan, very interesting and informative, but you need to improve on your geographic knowledge... Georgia is not in Eastern Europe, rather it is in Asia. Portugal sounds interesting, but I'm not sure that I could master basic Portuguese as I find the language much more difficult than Spanish and I haven't learned enough Spanish yet. Though, I like the idea of having access to the whole EU. Jordan, keep up the great content.
I keep hearing tons of buzz about Portugal. When I start hearing everyone on social media talking about it, that only means the cost of living will skyrocket soon as people start flooding in from expensive countries trying to find a cheap place with a high quality of life.
@@rainbowsquash673 We went in the fall and had nothing but straight sunshine except one day.
have you looked at Paraguay, Jordan? per my reading, low taxes & costs, fairly easy naturalization & time zone there isn't so very different from USA.
There is a MEXICAN EMBASSY IN TEXAS THAT ONLY REQUIRE $1735, NOT ALL EMBASSIES ARE CREATED EQUAL WHEN IT COMES TO REQUIREMENT TO RETIRE IN MEXICO, THE NAME IS 'MCALLEN, TEXAS
Can you just deposit $24,000 in a bank and leave it there to qualify. We have plenty of income but I was thinking about just eliminating any hassle.
Mexico has lost a boatload of revenue since Covid began and they're looking for ways to make it up. Just yesterday my girlfriend and I were stopped at the Tijuana border crossing and fined $454 (9,000 pesos) for "importing" more than $300 worth of goods. This was basically our luggage and a couple of "must have" small kitchen appliances our rental doesn't include. While waiting to pay the fine (there is no appeal), I noticed that only newer, more expensive cars with US plates were being stopped.
Somebody needs to tell them that they're killing the Golden Goose.
We’ve tried. They just don’t listen. Mexican government, I meant.
Next time bring it without the tags of price or that looks new, sorry about your situation
Im so sorry to hear of your unfair penalty. In the future when entering Mexico make sure your items are NOT in the original box. Maybe in a plastic bag or in nothing is best. That "importing goods" is to prevent resale in Mexico. Appliances in Mexico are more expensive than in the US. Also to prove that they are used or are not going to be resold it is always advisable to put large stickers on the items. Stickers like maybe your favorite sports team, music groups..stuff like that. Apply a few on each item. I agree your observation of the expensive cars from the US being pulled over. One thing I did want to say is Mexico was one of very few countries open during COVID. People flocked to Mexico from all over the world. Lots of people coordinated with family/friends to meet in Mexico the entire time that the rest of the world was on lock down. How do I know?? Im a flight attendant and we tripled our flights during COVID to Mexico and still do...all over Mexico. There might have been some tourism lost but not in a huge way.
@@kellyname5733 I can't speak to overall tourism, but the hotels in Puebla (May '20), Oaxaca (September '20), Puerto Escondidio (January '21) and Puerta Vallarta (June '21) were mostly empty. Okay, June is low season for PV, so that made sense.
I will definitely take your advice about the packaging. I always keep original boxes for transporting, but in hindsight, it gave them an excuse. Next time I'll drive my ratty old Jeep and not bring my girlfriend's frikken Keurig. It's MÉXICO after all!
@@Jeffhowardmeade Kelly has no clue. Anyone watching videos of Mexico in 2020 saw the EMPTY hotels and shuttered vacation spots that you mentioned.. Well except Kelly the know it all. LOL
people do not get the signs. Mexico needs to rise residence req for what's coming for the Union of North America in 2030.
You better get your residency for Mexico granted now as financial req will go up & up. You'll look back as one of the best decisions for you & your family.
Am I allowed to have triple citizenship? 😅
Expat is a nice word for immigrant.
Everyone needs to be very careful.....the world is collectively spiraling into economic turmoil......massive inflation, supply chain disruptions, big oil & grain price spikes - poverty & desperation is going to explode worldwide but especially in Mexico, Central Amer. , S. America, Africa & S.E Asia - crime against foreigners perceived to be "wealthy" is going to get much worse through 2024 & possibly beyond.
Well at least Mexico has options to being legal in Mexico, not like the immigration nightmare North of the border. Also according to other youtube channels lots of people are still moving to Mexico for proximity and more.
@@karenga11
Love your comment!
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It’s most likely do to the “low income” expats that move to Mexico and raise the cost of living for the everyday Mexican in those popular regions, a person with higher wealth won’t affect the everyday Mexican, they’ll but property up that’s to expensive for lower or even middle class Mexicans. An unfortunate side effect for the lovely people from the Us living there, is they’ll no longer be able to reside in Mexico.
You mean *"* lovely *"* people?
Rael that might not be the case for those who already have a temporary visa or permanent visa or who are in the process. of obtaining citizenship. Nowhere is it written that the people already living in Mexico will be held to the new requirements. They might be grand fathered in.
Hmmmmm, this comments seems like it could be true/rational, but it also might not be. I'm not convinced. Dividing a country or a population into extremely wealthy and extremely poor with no middle class has historically NOT been a recipe for lasting peace and prosperity.
it is a STRONG position against illegal aliens even if they are americans ,.hopefully mexico will get rid of the bad hombres .
You only need a $1000 a month pension + $250 for your spouse to get the Pensionado visa in Panama! Plus you get a lot of discounts like 25% off airfare to anywhere in the world, 25% off utility bills, 50% off entertainment like a movie (only $2), 20% off at restaurants, and more!!
Great video Jordan. as usual. I love having all your info in one place. I took notes. It is disappointing I no longer see retiring /living in Mexico as possible but I will be visiting and looking at your videos to help my choices. Keep up the great work. thanks so much.
your amount for retirement visa in Ecuador is incorrect, it had been 400.00 per month until they raised the minimum wage to 425.00. and in last month or so the retirement visa requirements was raised to 1275.00 per month, or 3 times the minimum wage.
Medellin is the best option, perfect weather all year round, 38% cheaper than Mexico, only 3 hours from Miami, friendly people and more security than Mexico and above all drinking water from the tap.
6 hours from Miami??? I thought it was 3!
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I want to retire in Medellin or Bucaramanga. With Petro as president I expect things to improve gradually.
@@TobyNomad Yes you're right! it's 3 hours and not 6
LOL@@LouieManza
I think this is because the pandemic and many US companies accepting or tolerating remote work policies, I know a lot of people that realized how easy it was to earn in US dollars and spend Mexican pesos, I think the Mexican government is just trying to protect the people from gentrification, basically, if the price of common items and consumables increases because of people with more purchasing power is visiting/staying in the country, it makes it almost impossible for locals to afford for those items and consumables
Gentrification IS already happening in places like Puerto Vallarta, Cabo San Lucas, San Miguel de Allende, Lago Chapala, etc which has quietly driven up housing costs. Check out some of the Realty websites in those areas. Some of the real estate prices are on par with the U.S.
Yes, I’m on social security and when I started planning for retirement in Mexico not 3 months later they raised the limit so I no longer qualify. I’ve been looking at the countries you mentioned as well as Turkey. I have friends there and researching it’s even less expensive than Mexico and a beautiful country. Check out UA-cam videos by a couple from Britain. Search Mick and Trudie.
People have said it has a good nightlife for those who like to party.
I'm in the exact same boat. The hell with Mexico. Who wants to live where they're not wanted or welcome?!
@@user-tm1oy6ck4t not me!
@@user-tm1oy6ck4t Nobody said you are not welcome. Mexico is using a law that passed in 2016 using the La Unidad de Medida y Actualizacion (UMA). The daily minimum wage increased in Jan 2022. That is the formula for solvency in deciding the requirements. It is perfectly legal. I know nobody likes it, me included but that is the way it is for now. Mexico could change it, so stay tuned.
I like Turkey, but to be fair, my wife is from Turkey and she has some real estate there where I can hang out. Still I won't permanently leave the US.
Great video, Jordan! I lived in Boquete, Panama for a time and had to go to Costa Rica every three months, then come back to get another tourist visa. I had to leave and I was one day over my visa and they charged me two hundred US dollars! Then I lived in Cotacachi, Ecuador. I gave a "consultant" three hundred and fifty US dollars and my passport to apply for residency. She stole my money and kept my passport. I went through hell getting a temporary passport to fly back to Canada, then she sent my now invalid passport back the day before I left. When I moved to Ajijic, Mexico and fell in love with it I returned to Canada to apply for temporary residency and squeeked in with sixteen hundred dollars a month Canadian. I was forced to return to Canada when I lost one of my pensions because I had been out of the country more than six months. I never planned to go back to Canada so I intended to apply again, but now the income requirement is about thirty-four hundred a month Canadian, so impossible to qualify now. I agree that Mexico is shooting itself in the foot because the locals count on people coming for the six months in the winter. With all the mess with not getting 180 day tourist visas anymore people aren't going to come to Mexico anymore. From my own experience I would definately go back to Ecuador because I would still qualify for residency.
Retirees seem to get longer time periods. I think a big concern is that Mexico doesn't want tourists working.
Can I ask which pension you lost for being out of the country for six months?
I've heard other horror stories very recently about Panama's legal system and their corrupt lawyers, notaries. I would not go there for anything. Columbia sounds like the place to go now.
@@MrJx4000 Panama City is one of the world's money-laundering captials, which is why Trump has a big hotel there. Lots of high-level drug dealers there, the place reminds me of Miami (good & bad). There are nice small towns (e.g., Boquete & Volcan) in the highlands where the climate is more tolerable. Colombia is very nice, particularly the "coffee triangle" departments (states), Medellin, and the northeast side of Bogota. The coastal areas are OK to visit, but are not the place to live.
Gary, so where are you now? Did you qualify to enter Ecuador since they bumped up their monthly income minimum to U$1275 ? I'm looking at Turkey as they've become very affordable since their economic problems started (I'm following "Mick and Trudie" on Y.T. :-)
At least in the Baja (Tijuana/Rosarito) area, the cost of living is skyrocketing. Many local Mexicans cannot afford to rent in dollars. In many ex-pat areas, I think similar situations may be happening. The real east and cost of living expenses are going up. It is good that Mexico is growing economically, but to say or think that Mexico is a cheap place to live is not always true. Perhaps that is why they are increasing the income requirements. Here is a tip, try to have your own little business (food, service, something unique). It is so much cheaper to do business in Mexico or other Latin American countries than in the U.S.
Ecuador has in the past 2 years drug trafficking has gotten real bad. Belize is only safe in the resort but if away from resorts it is not safe for whites. Costa Rica is not very friendly and has gotten expensive. Uruguay is a good country but English is rare. Now Georgia is not a good with putin and Ukraine War. I am house hunting La Paz mexico. I have a sailboat so wish to be near water.
This was SUPER interesting! I would never have thought of some of these places. Thank you so much for making this video!
Just because of the increase of money needed? Lol you still dont need visa to enter Mexico, be worried when this happens, many americans are moving to Mexico, this country needs to have a way of regulate undeliberated migration, you have USD, its easy to have 2600 usd income
Really? So do tell me how because I have been busting my butt for 40 years and even with university it's often difficult to get that unless you live in a huge city. Then even if you do make that you can't afford to live in that big city
Been traveling through Mexico for the past 4 months on a tourist visa. Loved it so much that I'm going to get my citizenship. Luckily my mom was born in Mexico so that won't be too difficult. I'm grateful I won't have to go through all the hassle of applying for residency since I'm right on the fringe of the requirements. Still don't know what to think about the changes, only time will tell.
Hi Tony glad you're looking into becoming a dual citizen check out our video with all the steps to becoming a dual citizen as an american born with mexican heritage. Saludos! ua-cam.com/video/7sjATEkU6nU/v-deo.html
@Tony Welcome to the Motherland! Always remember that even if you don't have Mexican citizenship you're ethnically still Mexican, so you are part of Mexico and Mexico is a part of you. ¡Saludos, raza!
@57' Classic No hables por todos los mexicanos. Además, ¿a qué lenguaje te refieres? El español solo es uno de los 68 lenguajes y 350 dialectos que actualmente se hablan en México. Te recuerdo que el español es un lenguaje extranjero tal cual lo es el inglés.
You don’t speak for all the Mexicans. Besides, what language are you referring to? The Spanish is just one of the 68 and 350 dialects currently spoken in Mexico. You should remember that the Spanish is a foreign language just like English is.
@@EatBailaTravel Thank you will check it out. Might register my birth in Mexico because I hear it's a bit easier.
@@57Class I know the language 100% and can blend in just fine. I have passed by as a local numerous times by other locals. Spanish was my first language.
I find the title of your video a bit misleading. It feels as if you're trying to scare foreigners away. As if there weren't enough bad and biased news about Mexico. I know you're trying to inform people and just be straightforward, but the title doesn't help. Just my two cents.
Georgia? I don't know it's too close to Russia it could be a next target to get hit by Putin.
When we visited Belize this year we were told that if you want to apply for residency in Belize you need to pay 100USD every 30 days for 50 weeks. Then you can apply for permanent residency, which involves proving financial solvency. After 5 years you can then apply for citizenship.
Dangerous hood.
This video is very helpful and one of my new favorites. I have recently been contemplating moving outside of the U.S.
@Tangerine Travels will you be leaving Mexico?
It's not in the plans and I already have residency in Mexico. With that said, I'm feeling less welcomed here than I have in the past and it seems like an increasing percentage of the Mexican population wants all foreigners to leave. If this trend continues, I might leave.
@@TangerineTravels I've been traveling to Mexico for over 15 years and am feeling the same. So sad😔
seems like there is also a rise of anti immigrant sentiement in the us as well.
@@jkarma3356 it's the huge number and the fact it's illegal. What effects do you think that will have on this economy? Do you realize how much the cost of living has gone up here? Do you realize how much wages have decreased because of illegal people will take the same jobs for a lot lower pay? This is a big mess, mostly due to governments, not the people. The US has always lied to us about Mexico, now they're trying to get the citizens of both countries to hate each other. I don't know what to do about the situation, but I do see that I feel much less welcomed in Mexico and I wonder if the only reason I was ever welcomed was because of my money I spent there. I've always kinda felt like Mexico was jealous of the US. I learned from spending a lot of time in Mexico and South America that material things don't bring happiness and fulfillment. Well, maybe it's time that others learn this lesson.
@@trehugr4life naw the gringos have done everything in their power to mess things up for the mexians and latin americans and i see you watch fox news a lot most of the problems you listed are not on immigrants that is your own country if you do not want mexicans in america just be honest and say you do not like them and also do not be supresed when they return the same emotions also btw america is a dump these days.
I checked out Ecuador in 2014 but it’s not safe. Crime rate is high. My friend has to carry a loaded pistol in her purse and pulls it out on thieves about once a year.
it really depends on the city. Theft is big in Guayaquil, especially, if you are wearing jewelry or holding your $1,000 phone for all to see. Other cities like Cuenca are very safe.
Many countries are doing this...not just Mexico. Philippines...Thailand...same thing. Countries are getting more selective on who gets residency status while at the same time eliminating "border runs". I cant blame them. BTW...I moved to Mexico 4 yrs ago. Love it here. Culture, food, history, nice people and glorious never-ending sun!
Pro Tip: Leave your American attitude north of the border and learn some Spanish.
Regrettably Americans are their own worst enemies. They don’t acclimate, they don’t learn the language and they criticize the crap out of everything. They live in another country looking down their nose. And to make matters worse, they are thankless about what they are being given. Of course the locals are going to be put off by that. If you can’t live in a different culture and learn to respect and admire others stay in the States. But if you’re broke self can’t live where you were born and you don’t do a damn thing to change the laws that protect corporations, and you have to immigrate then be grateful and shut the hell up!!!
I think it's great, it empowers the Mexican citizens who can now profit off their land.
¡Viva Mexico!
what are the meds one can take for high altitude citys, like mexico city, if u have copd?
Check out the "I Go Panama" UA-cam channel. The woman made comparisons between Costa Rica, Belize and Panama and made the decision to go to Panama which she explained in a couple of videos. Everything else have been about living Panama including getting visas and a referral to a lawyer she used to secure their visa (with her husband).
Thank you YF Khan! I will check it out. I think like there is a right fit for everyone. I am grateful that you shared this information and perspective on Panama.
MEXICO changed its migration rules due to the massive wave of south American immigrants mostly from Venezuela and Argentina. It applies to everyone not only expats I guess .
Also from Colombia
Mexico is still in my sights. Is that your terrace in background? How about a little tour of the place? What city? What neighborhood? Gracias Jordon.
It is. It's in Querétaro but I'm not sure yet if I want to share any more than that.
Just moved to Mexico, and the easiest way to get temporary residency right now is through regularization. No financial requirements and it is valid for four years instead of one.
I was told by an attorney in Querétaro that they quit doing that back around the end of 2020 and then I later read about INM initiating an investigation on those INM offices that continued to do it in exchange for bribes.
@@TangerineTravels I've heard several different rumors, but I can confirm it is alive and well in Quintana Roo.
I know that INM in Cancun has a history of being very corrupt. When maddie was renewing her residency there, if she didn’t pay a $1200 USD bribe her application was moved to the bottom of the pile. It took a year to get it renewed when it was supposed to happen in a few days. All because she didn’t pay the bribe.
@@TangerineTravels Ah yes, the good old "expedite fee".
Hi there Jordon...as of yesterday, Ecuador has raised their financial minimum to $1275. I had to cross Mexico off my list because of their 22% hike in financial requirements as of January 2022. Now, Ecuador will have to be put off for a bit.
I think with that number you're looking at their digital nomad visa where you had to have earned $1,275 over the last 3 months or $15,300 over the past year.
@@TangerineTravels No, I saw it posted on a Cuenca website and then contacted my facilitator and she confirmed it. It had gone down to $400 when the pandemic hit, then I believe it went up to $425...and now it's tripled. This info just came out yesterday and will be published within the next week.
Ah, okay. Thanks a lot for the updated info! Yet another case of the easiest residency programs getting more and more difficult.
@@TangerineTravels Nope Jordan that is the "new" requirement $1275 for expats/pensioner. Ecuador is still drafting the details for the other programs. The new rules are not set in stone yet. We'll see
That's too bad. Goodbye Ecuador; was hoping to go there this summer to scout out retirement communities.
You're spot on about Ecuador. The minimums have increased a bit since you made this video, but still a far cry from those of Mexico. And with direct flights from Quito to the US, getting back to see family is not terribly time-consuming. We lived in Mexico for two years about 10 years ago, and now live in Ecuador. The cultures are very similar (minus the mariachi music--we don't have that! 😃). And like many countries, Ecuador now has a digital nomad visa. Plus, we're on the US dollar so no currency conversion issues.
Great video--very informative.
I really want to visit Mexico. I have not been there. I want to visit Mexico City, Teotihuacan, and Oaxaca. I just want to feel a bit safe when travelling and meet genuine/friendly people.
If it's the cost of living that excites you, try Kabul! Afghanistan has lots of land and the food is dirt cheap. LOLOLOL
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Seriously?
Seriously, so why are Muslims people escaping from that place?
@@saraswatkin9226 They don't have $$ 4 food. But that shouldn't be your problem with the American dollar. Besides this was humor, perhaps instead of being confrontational, you should mellow out.
It seems to me Mexico is purposefully making it harder to obtain residency for some reason. I have an idea of why they are doing this, however, I don’t want to speculate. Thanks for the information.
I’d love to hear your opinion. 🙌🏽
Likewise. I have my guesses too but it would all be speculation.
Anita everyone on here is speaking freely, why wont you?
@@TangerineTravels Go ahead and speculate please.
Something to do with the Great Reset that's coming?
Thanks for the great information, looking forward to your upcoming videos.
Great info, and some of us would love to know - What are the requisites in all these countries concerning covid shots? What countries would deny entry or tourist visa or residency to the unjabbed people? Which ones if any are still doing lockdowns and mask requirements?
Fun fact:
All these countries also have updated, official government websites listing the mandates, health and border rules - among other important tidbits.
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i say live where the neighbors give you a real genuine smile and are really happy to see you. i may leave to go work elsewhere only for a short while but then i will return to where everyone likes and respects each other most if not all of the time.
Jordan, I really liked this video. I had tried to get a retirement visa in Mexico early last year and was rejected twice, due to rising income requirements. In my search for other countries, I liked Georgia very much, but in my research, rejected the idea, as Russia has invaded this county in the recent past, and just may do so again. I finally decided on Colombia and spent a month there last year, got a visa and Residence Permit. Beautiful country, great food and scenery. Low cost of living and friendly people. I did find out that there are fewer English speakers there than my other choices, so learning Spanish is a must.
This is a great perspective Wayne. I have a digital nomad friend that spends winters in Mexico and summer in Columbia - it looks so lovely there!
Thanks Jordan. Good information. Thanks for the accurate information on this post. Respect . J
Best video yet. Especially the info on Georgia. It wasn't a country we had considered initially so thank you for pointing it out. We'll definitely look into it in further detail.
I think Georgia borders Russia. Maybe you can bring a helmet with you.
Don't be afraid of the Russians. As long a country is not killing Russian people in their country like Ukraine does in the Donbas erea, or a danger American Cat4 Biolab build next to the Russian border that leaks Smallpox virusses, like Ukraine does, the Russians are oké. Ukraine was warned several times....
@@pluisnonplux9728 I don’t think anyone is afraid of the Russian army now. Putin has shown the world how weak it is.
Very interesting areas I might not have considered. Great job Jordan!
Thanks for sharing the video Jordan. I had plans to retire in Mexico but had to cancel due to the new Mexican visa requirements. I'll start looking into the places you mentioned in this video. I miss the videos when you and Maddie were together. I completely respect the reasoning of the break up and glad you two are staying friends. I once was a subscriber and if you find a way to branch the channel into separate ones I'll resubscribe to yours. Her videos are nice but not for me with all due respect to her. Until then I just type in Tangerine Tavels to see who's video was posted. Thanks again for the videos.
Thanks for reconsidering. Sometimes it is best that life takes people to new place and new cultures. Visa requirements are really strict everywhere yet some have more open and easier access. Nothing in life can come easy.
I've been working, saving, and living frugally for years, hoping to move to Mexico one day. For the past 2 years ive been seeing how a lot of Mexico citizens really feel about us in the US (NOT ALL, but definitely a lot more than i ever thought). I'm checking out Belize now.
the feeling is mutal the us dispises the mexican people as well.
@@jkarma3356 Dont speak for me and many others. If we want to expat to Mexico we have to provide a way to sustain ourselves. Every country should have the same/similiar requirements.
@@kellyname5733 still many americans dispise the mexican people (or anyone who is not them).
@@jkarma3356 I've lived in Detroit area of US for 58 yrs and have never met a person who despised Mexicans.
@@fendermon i lived in the south louisana and also i was around during the trump administration so i have met plenty.
Keep making videos Jordan. I like you and your voice is soothing
In Mexico, by creating a company, can you get a visa? could you please research about it? thanks
Meanwhile the U.S. lets anyone in through the southern border but the cost of living and quality of life is poor unless you have a lot of money?
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@@mimi7914 They are looking for work and a chance to live without being terrorized by local gangs or their government. And the work they do is often the work citizens here don't want to do; try picking lettuce all day or working in a meatpacking plant or being a nanny. Some know how to drive trucks, and could help with the supply issues we're having.
The US don't let anyone in. Moving legally to the US is quite hard and getting in without a visa is next to impossible. Most people die trying it. Most people just overstayed their visas.
@@leoperez6737 There have been an estimated 3 million people who have entered the US through the southern border since the current regime was installed into the White House along with those who overstay their visas. With all the problems in the US, many wonder how those people will survive with the high cost of living? Many US citizens are moving to Mexico for a better quality of life and a lower cost of living.
@@status-xk8kr Considering the current admin. is applying Title 42 and Remain in Mexico policy, I have issues believing that. Perhaps there are 3 millions applicants for refugee status, but you need to consider that they are refugees, people fleeing from gangs and when the US goverment denies their refugee status they get deported.
I guess I'm lucky that I applied for residency in Mexico when I did. My Social Security is only about $1600 monthly and I got my permanent residency in February of 2022. I'm liviing quite comfortably on that income in Hermosillo,
Hi there Jordan! Regarding Belize, you did a great job describing the QRP, but there is another option: you can simply move to Belize and stay on a tourist visa and renew it every 30 days for 12 consecutive months, and after that you can apply for permanent residency, as long as you don’t leave Belize for more than two weeks during the first year.
Wow! I didn’t know about that option. Do you know if that’s open to all ages?
@@TangerineTravels For the ordinary tourist visa and permanent residency, I’m not aware of any age or income restrictions, as long as you can support yourself while you’re in the country.
@Jason Antonino do they have good internet in Belize? I work remote so can go anywhere.