I did a build on this exact same case last year and my experience was the same as yours - I ended up moving my build to a K39 :) I did see a redesigned version of this case that allows an 80x15 fan under the power supply and a 120x15 fan under the motherboard, but of course that increases the volume above 7.5L.
i just bought this case last night but i thought i could fit some super thin fans in there to help with air flow. since you have experience on this case did u have fans or was there enough room to fit slim 90mm fans or even 30mm 40mm fans?
@@rushhour6444 it depends on the psu cables - I had custom length cables which allowed me to squeeze in a 60mm fan. But it really did not help much since the holes underneath don’t really allow good airflow.
Maraming Salamat kuya, perfect representation, you mentioned all the components and all the compatible dimensions. Thats what we are looking for searching for such a video….Perpecto👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
I just got this case and moved my old system with i7 4790 (with idcooling IS-40X) + GTX 1660 to it. I tried running Shadow of the Tomb Raider benchmark several times and the CPU temp hovers around 62 - 63C and the GPU gets up to 75C. I ended up undervolting the GPU a little bit and it never goes past 70C. I think this case is best for mid - low end system.
Yeah sadly. I was thinking of that but didn't mention it. Reason was that the case can house modern mid range components and so it should be able to handle such, the diff between open case and close case was enough for me to say skip it. Though I forgot the aesthetics aspect, which would say that you might like the case and not care about thermals and just give the best hardware that this can handle. Thanks for reminding. Will try to see things in another perspective.
Great review, there is another very similar case out there the XRORS S300 with a cpu heatsink/fan clearance of 60mm so it fits the ID-COOLING IS-55 cooler. I will be building this rig in the next month or so.
I'm glad you pointed out the poor airflow on the mesh grill. Based on this review, I ordered the PCCooler i100-2 with clear acrylic panels. FYI - the main difference between the PCCooler i100 and i100-2 is the size of the GPU that it can hold. The i100 supports 2-slot GPUs < 312 mm length. The i100-2 supports 3-slot GPUs < 330 mm length. I have an ASUS TUF GAMING 3060 OC 12GB that can fit either case, except -> it's too thick for the regular i100.
Wow! Thank you. It was very useful. I like the form factor, the dimensions and the handle. Hope they will improve this model. Gonna check your other vids.
I use this case, also face the problem of overheating I just don't apply side pannel :) Case fits 1 80x10 fan on top of the PSU. This case is only for 65W CPU and below 200W graphics card. I use it with 12100f rx6600 and it works fine. Still doesn't see some alternatives with ~7.5 L volume and 300mm GPU... maybe LianLi a4. I think balance between size and temerature is 13L cases for micro-ATX motherboars ~320x260x160 where you can fit 3-5 120 fans.
Nice informative vid. There's another version of this case with acrylic side panels with huge gaps. I'll probably get that one since tech yes city's results weren't that bad using it.
Not sure if you're a Filipino so the link may or may not be helpful but I got it here: www.lazada.com.ph/products/pccooler-i100-itx-mini-small-case-all-aluminum-suitcase-portable-htpc-desktop-computer-empty-chassis-pc-gaming-case-i3016739514-s16647152525.html? It's actually from the same seller of PCCOOLER ITX cases. I just chose the version of the PCIE riser that is being sold on it own
they should've moved the usb port (and maybe the power button) to the bottom right of the front panel, right under the gpu where there is a fair bit of empty space. as it is, the usb port restricts the height of the gpu that you can install. this is also an issue in the a07 case that i have.
Nice video Manong. I am wondering if should I choose this Shiny Snake S400 Case which is a little similar case with your video but with additional exhaust fans on the top or the ZZAW C2 Plus. I am looking for a budget sff case that I can easily fit inside my luggage bag as I will be moving abroad later this year, but with little compromises as possible and possibly a more budget build approach as itx build these days are really expensive.
Hi, sorry I'm not familiar with s400 but will list it down. For c2p, it's not really portable, but yeah you can fit it in your luggage bag (i'm assuning that this is a hand carry trolly). How much is your budget for the case?
@@manongunboxing My estimated budget is less than 5k pesos for the case. But yeah I am siding with ZZAW C2P right now as it is much less compromised even if it is twice as big with PCooler i100 case. Thank you po sa reply manong.
i'm palnning on building a PC with this case as well, but I'm going to use a r5 5600g so I wouldn't need a dedicated GPU, can you recommend me what PSU should I get? is 450W enough or do I go with 500-550W?
Sure, the choice of my cooler may be wrong, but the fact that the GPU spins on a CPU load test means that this case has its heat trapped inside. Overall, this case is really designed badly.
IDCooling IS-55 is using 120mm fan, while Noctua NA-FD1 is made for Noctua L9 series which is using 92mm fan. I dont think there is a NA-FD2 for 120mm fan.
hi, I did another benchmark based on your comment. I believe it was a valid point as the holes at the bottom of the case are bigger compared to the top of the case. I placed the case on top of 4cm boxes making a huge space underneath the case. Ok, so here's the result on intake cpu and closed side panels with FF15 for 30 mins: CPU avg temp: 79.6C (w/ spacers) vs 85.6C (no spacers) CPU max temp: 88.4 vs 90.3 GPU avg temp: 78.65 vs 77.24 That huge CPU average difference just cements my theory that their mesh panels need improvement. I placed my hands underneath the case and there are lots of air blowing out compared to the top of the case. However, there is no improvement for the GPU since my specific GPU's fin stacks are more inclined to push air to the top and less to the bottom.
@@manongunboxing I checked the bottom holes and they are really larger, wish this was the size on the top panel. I also checked their version 2, the one with acrylic side panels, those had larger holes on the top panels, should have bought that if I have watch your video before the purchase. 😁 Great content by the way. The acrylic panels also have larger holes.
@@manongunboxing if your into it, you can try the mod the same with Noctua faoms, the one you put between the gap on the CPU fan and the side panels. This greatly drop the temps as it avoided recirculating of the trapped hot air, as shown on your video. Also had managed to fit a 120mm fan under the PSU, but the foam mod had a better effect.
Nah not planning to go deeper, I dismantled the build already as I need to get the CPU for an upcoming GPU vid. 😃 As for i100-2 (if this is what you meant w/ v2), it is a bit bigger already to the point that it competes with the mainstream which I haven't tested yet. To give a holistic view, I have to test the mainstream first (I'm scheduling it on May; I already have an SFF ATX this April). Mainstream cases are easily available and price-competitive, size is also not that far from other boutique cases.
Here's a list of compatible RTX GPUs: pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#L=69000000,300000000&slotw=1,2&c=436,514,446,425,447,427,448,424,518,546,499,497,513,494,508,506,492,507,516,505,493,520,552,553,550,549,542,539&sort=-chipset&N=1,2,3,4,5 Though I can't recommend anything on this case personally.
@@manongunboxing sorry, i mean the bracket to case, the bracket should be placed behind the case, similar to how it is positioned at 03:00. I have the same case and it is difficult to close the side panel because the bracket is screwed in front of the case (06:11), causing some space to be covered and obstructing the panel.
Oh yeah, it should be on the inside. Thanks for the insight. There are two causes for the bulge of the panel then: this miss and my cooler (off by 2mm). It still got closed though.
Nah. In my latest vid, tested the same config with pccooler i100-2, 5800x was 10C cooler in it. You can still think that 5800X is too much for the case, but... Same price point Same cooler Same gpu Same psu Same ambient temps Diff case Negligible foot print difference Worse cpu cooling Yeah sure, I could use Intel i3 10100 so that it's better for the case. But given the same price point, negligible foot print difference between the I100-2, and a measurable 10 degrees Celsius improvement for 5800X (meaning now you have room for CPU upgrades), what is the point of this case?
Not so informative. Author even hadnt done downvolting and powerlimiting whis is a must in ALL ITX cases, Even more he forgot to install 2 case fans which need to be bought separately. Oh and a Dust filter... R U serious??? Never use dust filter in itx!!! Instead use blowing machine once in year which is pretty easy with this size. The Case actually really good. but u need to know how to use itx hardware.
If I need to undervolt, i’ll just buy a more competent case. I sold this case in FB marketplace and he was so unsatisfied that he bought another case from me. Never use dust filter - if it’s an included accessory, it is expected to be used and tested. Otherwise, don’t include one, like meshroom. If you think this is a good case, that’s fine but I would never recommend such to this day. Really the worst case that I’ve tested.
baliktad po yung fan nyo sa cpu, since sobrang liit ng space sa loob much better na hindi pa exaust ang setup, wala kayong fan na pa pasok ang air puros palabas
Originally, intake po yung fan ko 02:59. Grill nasa likod for Noctua NF-A12x15, papasok / downdraft sya sa CPU. Pero I tested everything (08:29) as benefit of doubt dahil kahit usual config e hindi performing. Hope this clarifies.
nag binge watch ako ng content mo. lol.. galing! helped me decide na mag zzaw c2p case. salamat!!
I did a build on this exact same case last year and my experience was the same as yours - I ended up moving my build to a K39 :)
I did see a redesigned version of this case that allows an 80x15 fan under the power supply and a 120x15 fan under the motherboard, but of course that increases the volume above 7.5L.
what?? u can put 8 cm under the PSU?? doesn't matter of it increase the Volume, To me i need a fan to make it cooler, even if it only 1 Fan
i just bought this case last night but i thought i could fit some super thin fans in there to help with air flow. since you have experience on this case did u have fans or was there enough room to fit slim 90mm fans or even 30mm 40mm fans?
@@rushhour6444 it depends on the psu cables - I had custom length cables which allowed me to squeeze in a 60mm fan. But it really did not help much since the holes underneath don’t really allow good airflow.
Maraming Salamat kuya, perfect representation, you mentioned all the components and all the compatible dimensions. Thats what we are looking for searching for such a video….Perpecto👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
I just got this case and moved my old system with i7 4790 (with idcooling IS-40X) + GTX 1660 to it. I tried running Shadow of the Tomb Raider benchmark several times and the CPU temp hovers around 62 - 63C and the GPU gets up to 75C. I ended up undervolting the GPU a little bit and it never goes past 70C. I think this case is best for mid - low end system.
Yeah sadly. I was thinking of that but didn't mention it. Reason was that the case can house modern mid range components and so it should be able to handle such, the diff between open case and close case was enough for me to say skip it. Though I forgot the aesthetics aspect, which would say that you might like the case and not care about thermals and just give the best hardware that this can handle. Thanks for reminding. Will try to see things in another perspective.
okay thanks for the guide im gonna build with this casing soon yahoo
Great review, there is another very similar case out there the XRORS S300 with a cpu heatsink/fan clearance of 60mm so it fits the ID-COOLING IS-55 cooler. I will be building this rig in the next month or so.
I'm glad you pointed out the poor airflow on the mesh grill. Based on this review, I ordered the PCCooler i100-2 with clear acrylic panels. FYI - the main difference between the PCCooler i100 and i100-2 is the size of the GPU that it can hold. The i100 supports 2-slot GPUs < 312 mm length. The i100-2 supports 3-slot GPUs < 330 mm length. I have an ASUS TUF GAMING 3060 OC 12GB that can fit either case, except -> it's too thick for the regular i100.
Wow! Thank you. It was very useful. I like the form factor, the dimensions and the handle. Hope they will improve this model. Gonna check your other vids.
Muntik na ako bumili neto buti nlng napanuod ko tong video mo lods. Ty
You saving me time and money mate! Will continue looking for a sfx case for my 4070 Super and 13500! 😬
Glad I could help!
Find anything? I'm looking for a case for a similar parts build to yours.
Thanks for this, I consider looking for other case
I use this case, also face the problem of overheating I just don't apply side pannel :) Case fits 1 80x10 fan on top of the PSU. This case is only for 65W CPU and below 200W graphics card. I use it with 12100f rx6600 and it works fine. Still doesn't see some alternatives with ~7.5 L volume and 300mm GPU... maybe LianLi a4. I think balance between size and temerature is 13L cases for micro-ATX motherboars ~320x260x160 where you can fit 3-5 120 fans.
Cool review 👍 thanks 2 u
Great vid!
great video!
Nice informative vid. There's another version of this case with acrylic side panels with huge gaps. I'll probably get that one since tech yes city's results weren't that bad using it.
I have a rare zalman m2 mini, and I am happy with my case
Just built mine with Ryzen 7 7700 and 4070 Ti Super, sure, it's hot like HELL!!
@@Oakyman is this tempetures ok? Worth for buy with high tempetures? And did u manage to lower the tempetures? 🙏
@@yenimeni-sn2lc I'm not so sure but I already bought the new case, ZZAW B1
@@Oakyman do you recommend zzaw b1? im looking for tiny case like that for gaming ? is the zzaw tempetures cool?
@@yenimeni-sn2lc I think it's cooler, at least you can put 2 12cm slim fans to the top.
at this rate you should do a mini case tier list ;o
Manong, that's great review! I wish i would watch it before buying 😂 can U post a link to the raiser U used?
Not sure if you're a Filipino so the link may or may not be helpful but I got it here: www.lazada.com.ph/products/pccooler-i100-itx-mini-small-case-all-aluminum-suitcase-portable-htpc-desktop-computer-empty-chassis-pc-gaming-case-i3016739514-s16647152525.html?
It's actually from the same seller of PCCOOLER ITX cases. I just chose the version of the PCIE riser that is being sold on it own
@manongunboxing thank You 🙏
1 low profile on the top will solve the problem, but too bad they dont think about exhaust fan.
they should've moved the usb port (and maybe the power button) to the bottom right of the front panel, right under the gpu where there is a fair bit of empty space. as it is, the usb port restricts the height of the gpu that you can install. this is also an issue in the a07 case that i have.
thanks, thats why they sell it cheaper on aliexpress haha
this pc case only good for 6 + 2 efficiency core processor or bellow
Nice video Manong. I am wondering if should I choose this Shiny Snake S400 Case which is a little similar case with your video but with additional exhaust fans on the top or the ZZAW C2 Plus. I am looking for a budget sff case that I can easily fit inside my luggage bag as I will be moving abroad later this year, but with little compromises as possible and possibly a more budget build approach as itx build these days are really expensive.
Hi, sorry I'm not familiar with s400 but will list it down. For c2p, it's not really portable, but yeah you can fit it in your luggage bag (i'm assuning that this is a hand carry trolly). How much is your budget for the case?
@@manongunboxing My estimated budget is less than 5k pesos for the case. But yeah I am siding with ZZAW C2P right now as it is much less compromised even if it is twice as big with PCooler i100 case. Thank you po sa reply manong.
hi sir, do you have a link for the s400? cant seem to see anything in lazada or even aliexpress. Thanks!
It's available now in Lazada.
was the riser included with the case?
By default, no. You have to choose among the variants if you want to include a riser (for a fee).
@@manongunboxing thanks for the reply! Also will a sfx-l psu fit in the case or does it have to be sfx?
It has to be sfx
Manong.. try K49
Will try. It's actually in the pipeline, I just don't have a definite sched for it.
K39 V3
As the best 7.5L case? Hmm... it doesn't fit 300mm gpu.
Is the riser included?
By default, no. Though, there are options where the riser is included (but you have to pay extra)
@@manongunboxing how much?
@@fili24Sorry for the late reply as I didn't notice this, usually around PHP 1K for gen 3, but around PHP 2K-2.5K for gen 4.
The shiny snake s400 is miles better. Room for top case fans makes a huge difference in temps
Where you got gen4 riser for this case?
I bought same case but it only offer 3rd gen pcie in my country
Same shop to where I bought this in Lazada. If you have a different reseller, try adt-link. It is a bit expensive there because of shipping
which budget mini itx case you think is the best?
For $100 - nr200p
For below that - metalfish g5 plus has good perf but you need to buy their riser
Manong, pa-sugggest naman ng abot kaya na DIY NAS build. TIA, God bless
So far. sorry pero nothing comes to mind. But will definitely post one if may maisip ako.
i'm palnning on building a PC with this case as well, but I'm going to use a r5 5600g so I wouldn't need a dedicated GPU, can you recommend me what PSU should I get? is 450W enough or do I go with 500-550W?
450W should be enough
What dimensions of motherboard can the case fit, boss?
Standard itx - 17cm x 17cm
Any case suggestion similar to this pero pwede mag lagay ng 120mm slim fan sa ilalim?
Hmm... sorry pero wala pa po ako for now na maisusuggest. I have yet to try GEEEKS and ZS cases.
If you went with intel cpu option + low profile 3060 or 4060, i bet you would get -10c degree temperatures at least!
Yeah sure. But I get better temps in other similar priced cases
@@manongunboxing which ones please? I am looking to buy something for new build
You can check my latest vids. But to answer, for the price, metalfish g5 plus is my top pick.
S400 is overall good in terms of perf and compatibility
@@manongunboxing cheers already ordered s300
@@manongunboxingdoes s300 better cooling performance than i100?
Is it possible to fit a SFX-L psu on that case? Thanks in advance!
Some of the commenters said yes, haven't tried though
Alpenfohn Black Ridge is not ideal for this case. IS-55 from ID Cooling with a Noctua foam seal will keep this 5800x under 65C EASILY.
Sure, the choice of my cooler may be wrong, but the fact that the GPU spins on a CPU load test means that this case has its heat trapped inside. Overall, this case is really designed badly.
IDCooling IS-55 is using 120mm fan, while Noctua NA-FD1 is made for Noctua L9 series which is using 92mm fan. I dont think there is a NA-FD2 for 120mm fan.
boss kakasya ba ang 305mm na gpu, im planning to get power color hellhound 6700xt
Sorry late reply, pero hindi po kakasya based sa spec.
Have you tried adding spacers on the stand/feet? They improved my thermals doing it.
My cpu is id cooling is 55 btw.
hi, I did another benchmark based on your comment. I believe it was a valid point as the holes at the bottom of the case are bigger compared to the top of the case. I placed the case on top of 4cm boxes making a huge space underneath the case.
Ok, so here's the result on intake cpu and closed side panels with FF15 for 30 mins:
CPU avg temp: 79.6C (w/ spacers) vs 85.6C (no spacers)
CPU max temp: 88.4 vs 90.3
GPU avg temp: 78.65 vs 77.24
That huge CPU average difference just cements my theory that their mesh panels need improvement. I placed my hands underneath the case and there are lots of air blowing out compared to the top of the case. However, there is no improvement for the GPU since my specific GPU's fin stacks are more inclined to push air to the top and less to the bottom.
@@manongunboxing I checked the bottom holes and they are really larger, wish this was the size on the top panel. I also checked their version 2, the one with acrylic side panels, those had larger holes on the top panels, should have bought that if I have watch your video before the purchase. 😁 Great content by the way. The acrylic panels also have larger holes.
@@manongunboxing if your into it, you can try the mod the same with Noctua faoms, the one you put between the gap on the CPU fan and the side panels. This greatly drop the temps as it avoided recirculating of the trapped hot air, as shown on your video. Also had managed to fit a 120mm fan under the PSU, but the foam mod had a better effect.
Nah not planning to go deeper, I dismantled the build already as I need to get the CPU for an upcoming GPU vid. 😃
As for i100-2 (if this is what you meant w/ v2), it is a bit bigger already to the point that it competes with the mainstream which I haven't tested yet. To give a holistic view, I have to test the mainstream first (I'm scheduling it on May; I already have an SFF ATX this April). Mainstream cases are easily available and price-competitive, size is also not that far from other boutique cases.
Sir reco na gpu na kasya dto na rtx? Usually kase ung mga nvdia mataba ata ng konti parang founders edition lang nakita ko na kakasya
Here's a list of compatible RTX GPUs: pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#L=69000000,300000000&slotw=1,2&c=436,514,446,425,447,427,448,424,518,546,499,497,513,494,508,506,492,507,516,505,493,520,552,553,550,549,542,539&sort=-chipset&N=1,2,3,4,5
Though I can't recommend anything on this case personally.
I think you screw the PSU bracket in the wrong position, it should be behind the hole not in the front.
Hi, sorry to clarify which screw is this (bracket to case or psu to bracket)? Also, what does "behind the hole" mean?
@@manongunboxing sorry, i mean the bracket to case, the bracket should be placed behind the case, similar to how it is positioned at 03:00. I have the same case and it is difficult to close the side panel because the bracket is screwed in front of the case (06:11), causing some space to be covered and obstructing the panel.
Oh yeah, it should be on the inside. Thanks for the insight.
There are two causes for the bulge of the panel then: this miss and my cooler (off by 2mm). It still got closed though.
@@manongunboxingThats no insight, thats a correction.
este case é melhor que o D26?
No. This has bad thermals
@@manongunboxing Comprei telas de protetoras de poeira para por por dentro do d26, espero que funcione.
kakasya ba regular sized na ATX PSU jan boss?
Hindi po
@@manongunboxing pero dun po sa CH160 kasya no?
Yes kasya po sa CH160, malaki yon compared dito.
I build the samse case with psu sfxl, anyone using pcie riser gen 4.0 other brand?
iam looking for one but i have no idea what to get there is left and right and straight i don't want to buy the wrong one
I didn't catch the question.
If for a riser, pretty much everything is generic other than adt-link.
Buy double reverse for sandwich style cases.
The psu is sfx?
Yes
rx6700 nitro+ can fit in it?
No. Too fat and too long.
Would MATX fit in it?
No
The 5800X is just a hot cpu, it’s not the case.
Nah. In my latest vid, tested the same config with pccooler i100-2, 5800x was 10C cooler in it.
You can still think that 5800X is too much for the case, but...
Same price point
Same cooler
Same gpu
Same psu
Same ambient temps
Diff case
Negligible foot print difference
Worse cpu cooling
Yeah sure, I could use Intel i3 10100 so that it's better for the case. But given the same price point, negligible foot print difference between the I100-2, and a measurable 10 degrees Celsius improvement for 5800X (meaning now you have room for CPU upgrades), what is the point of this case?
He said open case its the same… and still thinks its the case.
overall - skip
Not so informative. Author even hadnt done downvolting and powerlimiting whis is a must in ALL ITX cases, Even more he forgot to install 2 case fans which need to be bought separately. Oh and a Dust filter... R U serious??? Never use dust filter in itx!!! Instead use blowing machine once in year which is pretty easy with this size. The Case actually really good. but u need to know how to use itx hardware.
If I need to undervolt, i’ll just buy a more competent case.
I sold this case in FB marketplace and he was so unsatisfied that he bought another case from me.
Never use dust filter - if it’s an included accessory, it is expected to be used and tested. Otherwise, don’t include one, like meshroom.
If you think this is a good case, that’s fine but I would never recommend such to this day. Really the worst case that I’ve tested.
baliktad po yung fan nyo sa cpu, since sobrang liit ng space sa loob much better na hindi pa exaust ang setup, wala kayong fan na pa pasok ang air puros palabas
Originally, intake po yung fan ko 02:59. Grill nasa likod for Noctua NF-A12x15, papasok / downdraft sya sa CPU.
Pero I tested everything (08:29) as benefit of doubt dahil kahit usual config e hindi performing.
Hope this clarifies.