10:57 .... That rings up some memories when a swift slipped of his lane and came into mine crashing into me and my e46 front to front with a combined speed of about 120 kmph .... It was about -5 celcius .. both of us where fine but the front of the swift was just gone and my bmw was about 40cm shorter...and completly done.... I will never forget the look of the headlights of that swift coming at me before that freaking loud bang... Damn be carefull out there guys...
No. Insurance Companies often see cars as "Economically Totalled" which only means that the Cost to repair the car is more then the car is worth. Them claiming a car is "totalled" doesn't automatically mean it is actually not saveable anymore just that it wouldn't be worth repairing the car. In modern cars very small damage can be Economically Totalled. My friend drives a 2017 Opel Corsa and he got into a rather small accident which damaged his rear bumper pretty badly. The problem is that the car itself isn't really worth all that much but in the back bumper where he was hit there were a lot of sensor and electrical stuff that got either destroyed or damaged beyond repair. Even tho his car basically only had a few cracks and scratches visually, internally there was a lot of stuff that was destroyed (nothing that would keep the car from running it still drove fine it's just not legal anymore) and thus his car was considered "Economically Totalled" even tho it still drove fine.
@@Z38_US still could easily do an insurance-totaled or not series, just take pictures from an auction site, they usually list how it was 'totaled' out too
As someone who's recently been in an accident with a truck that had no airbags, this really touched home. Thank you guys so much for making this video, really makes ya think
"Makes you think" No not really, when all of this is common sense snd when buying a vehicle, even since the 60s, SAFETY has been a big factor and very common for what buyers look into.
James saying "it's time to spin the wheel of mythicality" at the end threw me for such a loop. GMM and Donut Media are daily watches for me and I thought my brain was bleeding one channel into the other
Put Rhett and Link in high car and low car and make them race. Pair them with James and Nolan. Loser has to eat the bugs off the opponents windshield or something 😂
I was quite impressed with the results of the 86 despite it's small size. On two separate occasions, there have been large trucks that have hit me, one from the front and the other from the side, and all I got was body damage as a result for both. The Tacoma I have also did well in the IIHS testing. On another note, I once had a 7th gen Corolla that I loved, but after seeing it's crash test, I'm glad noone ever hit me (from the front). The dash was completely torn apart during it's crash test.
That Camaro would get no higher than a 3 nowadays. The A pillar collapsed and would definitely impact the driver space. It would be better if they added stars than redefined the whole thing. A perfectly safe 30 year old car would get a 5 at its time but with changing methods might only get a 1 today.
and sometime a car from the 80s out performers a car from today. 5 star then is equal to 2-3 today and if the car of today gets a 3, maybe a 4. Progress from brand to brand and car to car of different model years and models makes all these pointless after the model has be discontinued or redone. aka a 1976 Porsche 911 vs a 2022 911
That "Oh My Gawd" by James during the catfish bit has me wanting James to star in any kind of documentary/movie they do about Chris Farley. James has the voice and the energy to pull it off, just needs a good makeup/costume artist to pull the look together and you got a solid Farley for the movie!
The fact I've been in 4 accidents over the course of my life (2 as a driver, 2 as a passenger) and walked away unscathed every time is a testament to how safe modern cars are.
imagine being in a tesla... it's a 25% getting fuc*'d by battery fire and 85% getting out from everything else including roll overs... i think tesla wins the hell out of it....
I was in an accident in the 90’s in an E36, rolled 3 times across the freeway, we both walked away from the accident, only damage I suffered was a bit of blood when I bit down on my tongue on impact. Great vehicle
@@Ultra_64 my nb before I put big cams injectors and down pipes would do 6300 rpm no issues now Jesus you would think its a rotary with how long the rpms band is now. So my friend let her eat and rip it to the red line atleast once to get all the butterflys out
Probably my favorite video on the channel so far 😂 I love everyone’s dark sense of humor when it comes to car crashes. “10$ junkyard car seat vs. 1500$ car seat” needs to happen.
Fantastic episode guys, and as always one love. We appreciate our guys keeping us up to speed on certain safety aspects we sometime neglect before we completely send it. More importantly...Phumphrey..my guy.. How are you feeling bro? We all love you my dude. Give us a quick up date "cuuuaah"" (in my Brian-Spilnar- O'Conner voice)
First thing I did when I found out my wife was pregnant was sell my 1978 XC GXL Ford Fairmont and buy an almost new 5.7l Holden Statesman... I loved that big bad Ford, but I (sort of) understand a thing called physics and wanted my wife and child alive. I knew when people said "you'll be right in that thing, heaps of metal to protect you" they failed to grasp the concept of inertia and crumple zones. Not to mention airbags.
That al×ays bugs me, when people look at a car that doesn't crumple, and think that means it's safer. "Ah, look at that, it went 40mph into a wall, and you can drive away from that!" Well, the car might, but you'd be seriously unhappy, probably for the rest of your life. Those injuries stay with you.
@@musewolfman Yeah the car can be rebuilt once they hose out the soup that used to be the people occupying it during the crash. A wise man once said to me, speed never kills anybody... Stopping suddenly, that's what gets you. Where we were living at the time, in outback Western Australia, we had huge animals and road train trucks that you're pretty well fucked if you get in an accident with... But I at least wanted to give us a chance and the old Ford wasn't going to do that. The new Statesman was sooooooooo much faster too, less power actually, but it could use the power without being dangerous
Much better from this perspective to watch than being in it. The new rating system between NHTSA and IIHS for new cars quite annoyingly factors in things like auto-stop and collision warning. Like even if the crash didn't even dent the car, it would be an automatic 3 because it didn't have pedestrian alert.
I completely agree, why should the safety of the driver if hit by a drunk driver be worth as much if not less then the safety of something stupid enough to get infront of a moving car. Any driver worth their salt should be able to also stop the car faster and sooner then an unreliable ultrasonic sensor.
@@ThePower1037 And those sensors have actually probably caused some crashes when they suddenly stop the car, like on a steep driveway or where the driver was going to pass or whatever and it stopped the car early
Well I guess technically the collision warning and automatic braking would be under safety features so it kinda makes sense, but then again it would be nice to keep it the same and score all cars under the same conditions, because from what your saying a car could be really safe in a collision but if it doesn't have the sensors it could have a lower score then a car that has them but not be as good in a actual collision.
What? There have been and there still are separated numbers for driver, passengers, baby and pedestrian safety. The "EuroNCAP 5 stars yada yada" thing is only because of course we need an average sometimes. During commercials and stuff, would be hard to show off the whole chart with a dozen data points, so manufacturers want to show off the big number. But safety is a bit more nuanced than that. You can go to the NHTSA, IIHS and EuroNCAP sites to see every single test and number with notes from the engineers and all.
In 1983, my mom had a 1982 Volvo 240 Turbo. It was sweet: manual, silver, black leather, Virgo wheels. She was driving my sister and I around in Nashville, when we were in a high-speed five-car pile-up. Not only were we the only ones not injured, but “The Brick” only had minor scuffing on the front and rear bumpers. The hwy patrolman was shocked when my mom said “Can we just leave?” I still have a 240, and I trust it more in an accident than my other, 25-years-newer car. MAKE A VOLVO 240 STOCKY!
I would love to see a car seat comparison. As a father of two I have always wondered how much safer a 500 dollar car seat is compared to a 50 dollar one.
In high school I took an airbag to the face when a classmate ran into me (him: Jeep Cherokee, me: Chrysler Acclaim). Both cars total'ed, pretty dangerous thing, but that airbag punched the crap out of me. Had a little gasbag burn as well from the chemical stuff inside, and it pushed some glass from the driver side window into me. Good times. Thanks, Brandon.
Yeah, people talk about airbags all the time like they're the hero of safety, but IMO they're probably the worst of all modern safety devices. Seatbelts, crumple zones, soft/flexible interior panels, etc. do way more than airbags and unlike airbags they won't injure you worse in some cases.
@@nunyabusiness896 That statement should only apply to front facing airbags imo. Curtain airbags/side-seat airbags don't intrude on your space as violently as the steering wheel and dash airbags.
Crash test ratings have gone from “how safe am I in the event of a crash” to “how inattentive can I be while driving” judging more about what systems the car has
Car companies are doing their best to cover their own asses from customer negligence and lawsuits. It's not about customer safety, it's about protecting themselves from legal issues.
Car design hasn't helped with this TBH. Your an idiot if you try and use a phone while driving, but a lot of cars now seem to be designed with built in distractions from the factory. Started with fancy radios, but I've seen vehicles where the climate control was done through a touchscreen. If I have to look away from the road to turn the defroster on (because it is on a stupid touchscreen) you have screwed up as an automotive engineer!
@@scottthewaterwarrior I think mercedes and bmw announced that touchscreen controls are no longer valid and a thing of the past and they wont be making them anymore. I think they announced it like this instead of calling them "dangerous" to avoid recalling
@@ikstarven That's good, though now BMW is making heated seats a subscription service... Not a safety problem at least, but really shitty. I worry that will become the norm for all cars in a few years: making you pay to use features that are already in the car.
I had a bad crash in my e30 last summer. The crash was a frontal offset impact on the driver side going about 30-50kph into an opel astra J going about the same speed. My car was a 1990 318is with a fully loaded trunk and 3 passengers which suffered minor injuries. I experienced memory loss probably from hitting the steering wheel with my head and a 2nd degree burn on my right foot because hot coolant spilled on it I suppose from a heater pipe breaking. Somehow walked out of the crash with my own legs after a passerby helped me open the door and recovered fully after about a month only experiencing mild knee pain for a couple more months. I think the car held up surprisingly well considering that it was developed in the late 70s - early 80s with no airbags. We were all wearing seatbelts and it seems like the engine and transmission did not enter the cabin. By modern standards it is very outdated and dangerous but that little box did well and i’m glad it was able to take the hit and save me. ABS alone would have prevented the entire crash from happening in the first place. Old cars might be well built but they are not safer like a lot of people think and as my crash demonstrates it also comes in very handy to have electronics preventing the crash from happening at all.
I owned a badass 05 mustang (bought it already built, had 600hp, was WILD) I got rear ended by someone going 70+ while i was at a dead stop, my air bag did NOT deploy (got a recall for that exact issue a few years later from ford), but i walked away with whiplash and some bruises; the guy in the WRX who hit me was much worse off.
I loved the roll over test , I fell asleep driving home after a 12h night shift and I woke up doing 3 barrel rolls in an hatchback toyota yaris at 50mph and surprisingly I felt nothing inside the car🤣 pretty safe for a tiny car 👍🏻
@@AR15andGOD pulling 12 hours for several days you don't get enough sleep. It's happened to me but luckily I didn't wreck. You have to get home , taking a nap at the side of the road will just cause you to lose more sleep that day and be more sleepy the next day and you have to drive home from work again. My guess is you've had it too easy to say something like that.
my friend got into a collision last year (she survived!) and the after effects scared me a lot. so in my research phase of the car buying process ive been watching so, so many cars run into things and have things run into them. absolute carnage
I hit a tree on the passenger side in my s13 at 105mph when I was 17. The engine was in the passenger seat. I had a concussion and a laceration on my head, a broken finger from a piece of trim blasting through the steering wheel, and what looked like a seatbelt tattoo. 😂 It was a miracle I wasn't seriously injured 😂 It was seriously total carnage all around me except for the little bubble in the driver seat where I was. I wish I could post photos here because it looked insane.
I love my classic Camaros but I love the safety of my 5th gen SS. I had a 2014 2SS/RS and a drunk driver hit me head on doing 70+. That car held up very well, the seatbelt pretensioners went off and and my face never even hit the airbag, even though the rear of the car came off the ground as the car spun 180. I decided on another modern Camaro for most of my driving enjoyment and to keep the classics for a few rides or shows a year
I remember watching the crash test videos of the Pontiac Transport back in the day and seeing it fail so hard for a family hauler was horrible to watch. What made it even gut-wrenching was that we actually had one as a daily family van for awhile. 😖
Would LOVE to see a full carseat video for all the new dads. Just last week I realized I had my carseat setup incorrect, thanks to reading the owners manual, now the carseat is wayyyy safer. Would help all us dads out a ton : )
Can vouch for the F-body. Back in 07, I passed out at the wheel going an estimated 50mph, hit the side of a small cement bridge. Car looked like it went off a cliff but just broke the left fibula. Thankfully I was the only one muffed up. 🚑 (2001 z28) 6speed with T-tops.. gonna miss that one.
I think if they don't drive the cars and know nothing about them except "Yeah I've seen one of these on my way home" then it won't be as authentic as that video, but yeah, I think they could play around with that concept - there's a lot of cars each one of us drove or rode in - friend's, family, taxis... Police cruisers. Because some of us are *flicks knife* dangerous!
My brother had a wreak in the "catfish" camero back in '99. I'm surprised at its ratings, considering he had so many injuries and his 2 passengers didn't make it. The car also went through a similar crash to what was shown.
At 65 mph the forces on your body are immense, multiple bones broken organs torn and punctured, concussions, brain bleeds are expected. You may look pretty intact from the outside (aswell as the passenger compartment of the vehicle) but your insides tell a very different story.
TBH I wonder if the rating cited was for that crash or just the normal 30 MPH government crash. Because there certainly seemed to be a lot of intrusion into the passenger compartment.
I would love to see what the late 80's early 1990's Ford Festiva ( made by kia) was rated. Every one i saw in junkyard the motor shot out the bottom and passenger cabins were good.
I think a big difference is the use of factory cars. Mods make a difference, though I feel that they often won't be the best because mods can change the structure. Would like to see how those mods I saw in HS would do in a crash, like that one lifted ranger that had a chain for a front bumper.
I love the video gang! I love the idea of this video and bring light how safe cars have gotten! I think for the next Stocky should be a S13 Silvia/240sx! Maybe even a coupe could have some love!!
Don’t be scared in a 4th gen camaro or trans am. I’ve totaled one, walked away with a sore neck, I know several people personally who have totaled them way worse than mine was and walked away without scratches and there’s countless people on the forums and Facebook groups that have totaled these cars and been fine. They’re actually pretty damn safe in accidents. *edit* I should’ve specified, when I totaled mine, I wrapped it around a telephone pole, just right at the b pillar on the drivers side. Window shot down when it happened, so I popped the T top off, and crawled out.
Having a massive front end really helps. I've often wondered how newer cars, with modern crumple zone knowledge and building techniques, would fair in crashes if they still had 6+ foot long hoods.
@@scottthewaterwarrior definitely helps. I should’ve specified, when I totaled mine, I wrapped it around a telephone pole, just right at the b pillar on the drivers side. Window shot down when it happened, so I popped the T top off, and crawled out.
I don't know if dads are your target demo, but I'd love to see Donut putting car seats to the test. I need to know what's going to keep my toddler safe when I'm doing some smokey smokey burnies with the boys.
Honestly, a car seat D-List would be awesome for all the car moms and car dads out here. Not sure if it would really fit the scope/vibe of donut though.
i think it would im sure much like hoonigan they have kids or plan to (see 1000hp minivan) and would want to be able to impress their kids with the world of cars but safely.
They have pretty strong frames. I’ve smashed into traffic signs before and all the damage was a cracked bumper cover. It surprised me, I thought it was gonna bend like a pancake.
One crash test that haunts me is the 2001 F-150. Even in 2022 you still see a million of them on the roads and the overlap test was just horrific, the frame bent so hard that the entire cab contorted. Not to mention I grew up in one😳
Yeah... Don't buy Ford unless you have a death wish. Pinto fires, Explorer rollovers, Fiesta/Focus transmissions... The list continues. Ford doesn't care about safety. Only about your money.
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Dear God no. Raid has claimed yet another 😭
The fact that Nolan drives the safest car at donut really tracks with his persona.
i always thought my stang was a death trap if i wrecked it. Because they have an airbag recall some of the airbags have LEAD in them
@@CB_On_The_Beat i hear lead supports the head real nice
Mustangs have to be safe cause their drivers put them into walls trees and other cars
Safe for you, dangerous for crowds
@@spinnabenz256 so true lol
Mustang score:
Driver: 5
Passenger: 5
Pedestrian: -1
Ha 🙃
Granted I am stoned but I have been laughing hysterically at this comment for 10 mins 🤣 😂
@@kriptiksoulja 😎
The 2006 Mustang didn't have that reputation. The newer ones have gained that rep.
@@StockTurboN20 wait
10:57 .... That rings up some memories when a swift slipped of his lane and came into mine crashing into me and my e46 front to front with a combined speed of about 120 kmph .... It was about -5 celcius .. both of us where fine but the front of the swift was just gone and my bmw was about 40cm shorter...and completly done.... I will never forget the look of the headlights of that swift coming at me before that freaking loud bang... Damn be carefull out there guys...
@@ooneybird27 damn ...
@@ooneybird27 indeed ... I will never forget seeing the headlights coming at me and i still are kinda scared when its frozen outside
@@ooneybird27 yeah i guess that will stick with us for a while
I love how confident James was that funf was four. Vier is four, funf is 5
Thought the same thing and was looking for this comment haha
Also, its Fünf, with that Ü
Ditto
😂
Yeah I laughed so hard at this 😂
I love the unwarranted confidence in James when he said fünf is German for four.
Same lol I was like that’s not right.
@@Kahne-yy3vqfuckin same
And that camera pan onto him like "is that your final answer?"
Kurt Vonnegut says “ennnnghct wrong answer”
It’s not it’s fünf is five . But I love the confidence and the accent ! Greetings from Germany :)
3:43 James, you'd be surprised what insurance companies consider totalled. Especially now with resale skyrocketing. You should do a video on that!
No. Insurance Companies often see cars as "Economically Totalled" which only means that the Cost to repair the car is more then the car is worth.
Them claiming a car is "totalled" doesn't automatically mean it is actually not saveable anymore just that it wouldn't be worth repairing the car.
In modern cars very small damage can be Economically Totalled. My friend drives a 2017 Opel Corsa and he got into a rather small accident which damaged his rear bumper pretty badly. The problem is that the car itself isn't really worth all that much but in the back bumper where he was hit there were a lot of sensor and electrical stuff that got either destroyed or damaged beyond repair.
Even tho his car basically only had a few cracks and scratches visually, internally there was a lot of stuff that was destroyed (nothing that would keep the car from running it still drove fine it's just not legal anymore) and thus his car was considered "Economically Totalled" even tho it still drove fine.
@@Z38_US still could easily do an insurance-totaled or not series, just take pictures from an auction site, they usually list how it was 'totaled' out too
@@Z38_US i meant surprised as in, they will repair an $80k truck with close to $60k in damage.
@@nate678 Ah I see. Well I suppose sometimes this is just what happens.
Can't be correct evertime xd
@@Z38_US I know what you mean tho. I had a 91 SE-R that I wanted to have looked at and the guy told me to just live it for what it was worth 😅
As someone who's recently been in an accident with a truck that had no airbags, this really touched home. Thank you guys so much for making this video, really makes ya think
Hope everything was alright
Glad you're okay man
Glad you’re okay man
"Makes you think"
No not really, when all of this is common sense snd when buying a vehicle, even since the 60s, SAFETY has been a big factor and very common for what buyers look into.
@@brucebonner3491 please stop talking
James saying "it's time to spin the wheel of mythicality" at the end threw me for such a loop. GMM and Donut Media are daily watches for me and I thought my brain was bleeding one channel into the other
I NEED a crossover video
Put Rhett and Link in high car and low car and make them race. Pair them with James and Nolan. Loser has to eat the bugs off the opponents windshield or something 😂
@@Torqueyeel this feels like exactly how it would go haha
I was thinking that that’s why I came to to comments to see who else noticed it
Same lol
I was quite impressed with the results of the 86 despite it's small size. On two separate occasions, there have been large trucks that have hit me, one from the front and the other from the side, and all I got was body damage as a result for both. The Tacoma I have also did well in the IIHS testing.
On another note, I once had a 7th gen Corolla that I loved, but after seeing it's crash test, I'm glad noone ever hit me (from the front). The dash was completely torn apart during it's crash test.
Nolan: "I'm gonna go crash my car!" 🤣🤣
Hi sadwich
- into a crowd😂
It's a mustang, only a matter of time.
I almost spat my drink when it zoomed on his face lmao
🧱
Crash rating are also year dependent. Crash rating 5* from the 80’s is likely a 2 or 3* for 2000’s crash rating.
That Camaro would get no higher than a 3 nowadays. The A pillar collapsed and would definitely impact the driver space.
It would be better if they added stars than redefined the whole thing. A perfectly safe 30 year old car would get a 5 at its time but with changing methods might only get a 1 today.
Hey r u b-hall from Jimmy oakes?!
My country na miata would have a worse rating because they didn’t have airbags in aus
and sometime a car from the 80s out performers a car from today. 5 star then is equal to 2-3 today and if the car of today gets a 3, maybe a 4. Progress from brand to brand and car to car of different model years and models makes all these pointless after the model has be discontinued or redone. aka a 1976 Porsche 911 vs a 2022 911
Pretty sure they still use the volvo 240 as the standard to determine the rating
That "Oh My Gawd" by James during the catfish bit has me wanting James to star in any kind of documentary/movie they do about Chris Farley. James has the voice and the energy to pull it off, just needs a good makeup/costume artist to pull the look together and you got a solid Farley for the movie!
The fact I've been in 4 accidents over the course of my life (2 as a driver, 2 as a passenger) and walked away unscathed every time is a testament to how safe modern cars are.
And by "modern" I mean all 2000 or later.
insurance hates you
imagine being in a tesla...
it's a 25% getting fuc*'d by battery fire and 85% getting out from everything else including roll overs... i think tesla wins the hell out of it....
@@PrograError 25% and 85% ..?
That's 110% just letting you know
@@PrograError internal combustion engine vehicles have 15+ gallon tank of highly flammable liquid on board
Nolan's mustang getting 10/10 for crash safety:
Michael Scott: "Everyone inside the car was *fine*, Stanley!"
11:51 you can tell James knows what he's talking about cause he has an automatic benchmade Osborne pocket knife. He means bidness.
Four in German is “Vier”, Five is “Fünf”…
Well he didnt say fünf now did he? He said phoomph which is, in fact, german slang for 'four', as any true german would know.
Came here to say that lol
Yep my german fella
Very Fun
@@rfldss89 I hope you’re joking
I absolutely LOVED the “now it’s time to spin the wheel of mythicality”
NHTSA needs to update the term “Crowdstrike” to say “See Mustang leaving car meets for details”
I was in an accident in the 90’s in an E36, rolled 3 times across the freeway, we both walked away from the accident, only damage I suffered was a bit of blood when I bit down on my tongue on impact. Great vehicle
“they think we all drive deathtraps”
me with my rusty na miata with no airbags going 100mph with no rollcage:
@gelas lawas bot
I never pushed my shitbox miata futher than 5k RPM. It felt like it was going to explode lmao
Buddie u ever seen a hummer h3 go 102 mph
It felt like the all four tires r gonna fly off
@@Ultra_64 my nb before I put big cams injectors and down pipes would do 6300 rpm no issues now Jesus you would think its a rotary with how long the rpms band is now. So my friend let her eat and rip it to the red line atleast once to get all the butterflys out
@@skrawny-clown-snatcherofth8651 I usually just keep the windows closed. That way I don't have to worry about getting the butterflies inside.
5:24 beautiful Farley impression
Probably my favorite video on the channel so far 😂 I love everyone’s dark sense of humor when it comes to car crashes. “10$ junkyard car seat vs. 1500$ car seat” needs to happen.
I wish each time a new host was added, the previous stayed too, and by the end we just had the whole Donut crew playing the game
Fantastic episode guys, and as always one love. We appreciate our guys keeping us up to speed on certain safety aspects we sometime neglect before we completely send it. More importantly...Phumphrey..my guy.. How are you feeling bro? We all love you my dude. Give us a quick up date "cuuuaah"" (in my Brian-Spilnar- O'Conner voice)
First thing I did when I found out my wife was pregnant was sell my 1978 XC GXL Ford Fairmont and buy an almost new 5.7l Holden Statesman... I loved that big bad Ford, but I (sort of) understand a thing called physics and wanted my wife and child alive.
I knew when people said "you'll be right in that thing, heaps of metal to protect you" they failed to grasp the concept of inertia and crumple zones. Not to mention airbags.
That al×ays bugs me, when people look at a car that doesn't crumple, and think that means it's safer. "Ah, look at that, it went 40mph into a wall, and you can drive away from that!" Well, the car might, but you'd be seriously unhappy, probably for the rest of your life. Those injuries stay with you.
@@musewolfman Yeah the car can be rebuilt once they hose out the soup that used to be the people occupying it during the crash.
A wise man once said to me, speed never kills anybody... Stopping suddenly, that's what gets you.
Where we were living at the time, in outback Western Australia, we had huge animals and road train trucks that you're pretty well fucked if you get in an accident with... But I at least wanted to give us a chance and the old Ford wasn't going to do that. The new Statesman was sooooooooo much faster too, less power actually, but it could use the power without being dangerous
Trucks are pretty unsafe, most deaths are from rollovers. Just sayin.
@@musewolfman yup,the energy has to go somewhere - if the car stays intact,that somewhere is your squishy human body
Much better from this perspective to watch than being in it.
The new rating system between NHTSA and IIHS for new cars quite annoyingly factors in things like auto-stop and collision warning. Like even if the crash didn't even dent the car, it would be an automatic 3 because it didn't have pedestrian alert.
yeah i would like a warning before i plow over lil Suzie with my CUV
I completely agree, why should the safety of the driver if hit by a drunk driver be worth as much if not less then the safety of something stupid enough to get infront of a moving car. Any driver worth their salt should be able to also stop the car faster and sooner then an unreliable ultrasonic sensor.
@@ThePower1037 And those sensors have actually probably caused some crashes when they suddenly stop the car, like on a steep driveway or where the driver was going to pass or whatever and it stopped the car early
Well I guess technically the collision warning and automatic braking would be under safety features so it kinda makes sense, but then again it would be nice to keep it the same and score all cars under the same conditions, because from what your saying a car could be really safe in a collision but if it doesn't have the sensors it could have a lower score then a car that has them but not be as good in a actual collision.
What? There have been and there still are separated numbers for driver, passengers, baby and pedestrian safety. The "EuroNCAP 5 stars yada yada" thing is only because of course we need an average sometimes. During commercials and stuff, would be hard to show off the whole chart with a dozen data points, so manufacturers want to show off the big number. But safety is a bit more nuanced than that.
You can go to the NHTSA, IIHS and EuroNCAP sites to see every single test and number with notes from the engineers and all.
In 1983, my mom had a 1982 Volvo 240 Turbo. It was sweet: manual, silver, black leather, Virgo wheels. She was driving my sister and I around in Nashville, when we were in a high-speed five-car pile-up. Not only were we the only ones not injured, but “The Brick” only had minor scuffing on the front and rear bumpers. The hwy patrolman was shocked when my mom said “Can we just leave?”
I still have a 240, and I trust it more in an accident than my other, 25-years-newer car.
MAKE A VOLVO 240 STOCKY!
I would love to see a car seat comparison. As a father of two I have always wondered how much safer a 500 dollar car seat is compared to a 50 dollar one.
Donate your kids to donut so they can test them
@@nzwotb2525 the wife wouldn’t be so thrilled. I’ll donate the car seats tho. 🤔
In high school I took an airbag to the face when a classmate ran into me (him: Jeep Cherokee, me: Chrysler Acclaim). Both cars total'ed, pretty dangerous thing, but that airbag punched the crap out of me. Had a little gasbag burn as well from the chemical stuff inside, and it pushed some glass from the driver side window into me. Good times. Thanks, Brandon.
Let’s fucking go Brandon eh
Yeah, people talk about airbags all the time like they're the hero of safety, but IMO they're probably the worst of all modern safety devices. Seatbelts, crumple zones, soft/flexible interior panels, etc. do way more than airbags and unlike airbags they won't injure you worse in some cases.
@@nunyabusiness896 they work tremendously well in preventing spinal injuries. Soft / flexible interior panels won’t do anything for you in a crash.
@@nunyabusiness896 That statement should only apply to front facing airbags imo. Curtain airbags/side-seat airbags don't intrude on your space as violently as the steering wheel and dash airbags.
@@nunyabusiness896 how do you form your opinions?
14:10 That's good because Mustang drivers seem to need this the most
Crash test ratings have gone from “how safe am I in the event of a crash” to “how inattentive can I be while driving” judging more about what systems the car has
Seriously tho!! They should separate the 2 ratings
Car companies are doing their best to cover their own asses from customer negligence and lawsuits. It's not about customer safety, it's about protecting themselves from legal issues.
Car design hasn't helped with this TBH. Your an idiot if you try and use a phone while driving, but a lot of cars now seem to be designed with built in distractions from the factory. Started with fancy radios, but I've seen vehicles where the climate control was done through a touchscreen. If I have to look away from the road to turn the defroster on (because it is on a stupid touchscreen) you have screwed up as an automotive engineer!
@@scottthewaterwarrior I think mercedes and bmw announced that touchscreen controls are no longer valid and a thing of the past and they wont be making them anymore. I think they announced it like this instead of calling them "dangerous" to avoid recalling
@@ikstarven That's good, though now BMW is making heated seats a subscription service...
Not a safety problem at least, but really shitty. I worry that will become the norm for all cars in a few years: making you pay to use features that are already in the car.
Nolan’s bit in this video was hilarious. The hype of the safety rating and of course the close up with “I’m gonna go crash my car”
14:07 I loved the excitement, you guys are just so funny 🤣
I had a bad crash in my e30 last summer.
The crash was a frontal offset impact on the driver side going about 30-50kph into an opel astra J going about the same speed.
My car was a 1990 318is with a fully loaded trunk and 3 passengers which suffered minor injuries.
I experienced memory loss probably from hitting the steering wheel with my head and a 2nd degree burn on my right foot because hot coolant spilled on it I suppose from a heater pipe breaking.
Somehow walked out of the crash with my own legs after a passerby helped me open the door and recovered fully after about a month only experiencing mild knee pain for a couple more months.
I think the car held up surprisingly well considering that it was developed in the late 70s - early 80s with no airbags.
We were all wearing seatbelts and it seems like the engine and transmission did not enter the cabin.
By modern standards it is very outdated and dangerous but that little box did well and i’m glad it was able to take the hit and save me.
ABS alone would have prevented the entire crash from happening in the first place.
Old cars might be well built but they are not safer like a lot of people think and as my crash demonstrates it also comes in very handy to have electronics preventing the crash from happening at all.
Mustang has a 5 star rating for driver and passenger but for the pedestrian its a whole different story 😂
5 stars for pedestrian… it gets the job done.
#crowdplow
Mustang?
@@eternalzxzpayne5984 My bad thanks for letting me know it was a typo error
I owned a badass 05 mustang (bought it already built, had 600hp, was WILD) I got rear ended by someone going 70+ while i was at a dead stop, my air bag did NOT deploy (got a recall for that exact issue a few years later from ford), but i walked away with whiplash and some bruises; the guy in the WRX who hit me was much worse off.
Okay, note to self...if the ramp is unavoidable, DO NOT try a barrel roll.
Weakness disgust me.
And, tuck your arms in and keep then down.
I loved the roll over test , I fell asleep driving home after a 12h night shift and I woke up doing 3 barrel rolls in an hatchback toyota yaris at 50mph and surprisingly I felt nothing inside the car🤣 pretty safe for a tiny car 👍🏻
what the hell glad youre ok
u could just not fall asleep
@@AR15andGOD pulling 12 hours for several days you don't get enough sleep.
It's happened to me but luckily I didn't wreck.
You have to get home , taking a nap at the side of the road will just cause you to lose more sleep that day and be more sleepy the next day and you have to drive home from work again.
My guess is you've had it too easy to say something like that.
@@WilliamOwens1 consider unionizing so you don't have to potentially be in a fatal crash because of being overworked
@@ChlorideCull ha,ha,
Not in a right to work state you don't.
James with the subtle Benchmade 940 flex. Outstanding choice sir.
my friend got into a collision last year (she survived!) and the after effects scared me a lot. so in my research phase of the car buying process ive been watching so, so many cars run into things and have things run into them. absolute carnage
When James thinks fünf is 4 in German when it’s actually the number 5
“Oh ja, ich bin ein verrückter Deutscher!!”
I came here to point this out as well
I have always been a VW guy. After owning 6 mk2 GTIs I saw the test footage of that... OMG! But yeah, I still drive them sheetboxes :D
Mustang needs a side impact test to simulate leaving a car show.
Crash tests are necessary but they are heart wrenching af.
Press F to pay your respects for these fallen macchine.
Love the quick GMM reference at the end!
its a shame to see these cars get destroyed but then you realize most of these cars are not done yet 😂
You should see the supercar crash tests that really messes with you
Yeah exactly. I was really surprised by the E46
Haven’t had internet for 5 days, woke up to wifi and Donunt Media. It’s the beginning of a good day!
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I hit a tree on the passenger side in my s13 at 105mph when I was 17. The engine was in the passenger seat. I had a concussion and a laceration on my head, a broken finger from a piece of trim blasting through the steering wheel, and what looked like a seatbelt tattoo. 😂
It was a miracle I wasn't seriously injured 😂
It was seriously total carnage all around me except for the little bubble in the driver seat where I was.
I wish I could post photos here because it looked insane.
I love my classic Camaros but I love the safety of my 5th gen SS. I had a 2014 2SS/RS and a drunk driver hit me head on doing 70+. That car held up very well, the seatbelt pretensioners went off and and my face never even hit the airbag, even though the rear of the car came off the ground as the car spun 180. I decided on another modern Camaro for most of my driving enjoyment and to keep the classics for a few rides or shows a year
@10:30 -ish ..Didn't read comments but HEY JAMES.. "FÜNF" ..is actually FIVE in German 🤣
I was trying to find someone that said something, vier would be the correct answer james… lol great comment
5:06 Passenger talking to driver: The lord tells me he can get me out of this mess but he's pretty sure, you're fooked!
Several minutes in, I thought "this almost feels like a Good Mythical Morning episode." Lo and behold, the go-home line
Threw me for a loop when James said that. Had to rewind to make sure I heard it right 🤣
The requirements are really different across the years, so a 5* car from 2002 could be easily a 2* car nowadays.
And a 4* from the 60s is probably illegal by today's standards
More like 0* like a 2002 car could lack ABS lol
Yup fiat 500 was 5, now it's 3
@@rkan2 isn't autonomous braking required nowadays? that would probably give all cars in 2002 a 0
I thought I heard from somewhere that the scoring is based solely on harm done to the driver / passengers so a 5* in the 80s is still a 5* today
James’ reaction to the catfish crash makes me laugh every time
The reason I buy old Swedish cars is precisely because they’re still pretty safe. Especially old volvos and saabs
and the same reason is why i want one for my first car
I love a Saab. Had a 2000 95 awhile back and loved it. Would love to have a Saab again.
The reason I like Volvos because diesel boi go BRUPPUPPUPUPUPPPP
@@R3D_Lantern skrota aset annars byt
"Old" and "safe" should not be used in the same sentence when regarding cars.
Thanks for seeing Stocky to production! I am proud to have been a part of the process. It's been a while but we all made it happen!
Would love to see a Z32 300ZX Stocky in the future.
I would love to see a 2016 Chevrolet Camaro SS as a stocky.
Loved the Tommy boy reference at the beginning! “New guys in the corner puking his guts out” 😂
Lesson: always use two ramps, or one big one, like Evel.
I remember watching the crash test videos of the Pontiac Transport back in the day and seeing it fail so hard for a family hauler was horrible to watch. What made it even gut-wrenching was that we actually had one as a daily family van for awhile. 😖
That's the one that cut off one of the crash test dummy's legs and nearly decapitated him with the steering wheel!
12:30 James, there is a dummy to look at! It just completly falls back with the chair, so it can receive all the glass with its face 😂
needs to be a yearly episode to remind us about the dangers of crashing
just watch that ihs special anniversary version...
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Would LOVE to see a full carseat video for all the new dads. Just last week I realized I had my carseat setup incorrect, thanks to reading the owners manual, now the carseat is wayyyy safer. Would help all us dads out a ton : )
So just read the Manual? no neer for a video. Learn to read you Mongrols!
Loved the Chris Farley hook fingers and "oh... my... god..." excellent vid guys 👌
Can vouch for the F-body. Back in 07, I passed out at the wheel going an estimated 50mph, hit the side of a small cement bridge. Car looked like it went off a cliff but just broke the left fibula. Thankfully I was the only one muffed up. 🚑 (2001 z28) 6speed with T-tops.. gonna miss that one.
13:12 Nolan looks like Russell from up 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Love the Camaros rating when you can literally see the dummies head hit off the door
As an E46 owner, I was very satisfied with the results. Alas, I'm swapping out the wheel eventually.
Just trade it in for a Mustang. Although a e46 without a steering wheel might be safer than a Mustang with one. I own an E46 too.
You should do these more often with other cars. Love the concept ✊👍
I think if they don't drive the cars and know nothing about them except "Yeah I've seen one of these on my way home" then it won't be as authentic as that video, but yeah, I think they could play around with that concept - there's a lot of cars each one of us drove or rode in - friend's, family, taxis... Police cruisers. Because some of us are *flicks knife* dangerous!
17:47 I laughed way harder than I probably should have at that😂
Nolan is warming up day by day and he is a great addition to the team :)
My brother had a wreak in the "catfish" camero back in '99. I'm surprised at its ratings, considering he had so many injuries and his 2 passengers didn't make it. The car also went through a similar crash to what was shown.
Damn I’m sorry to hear that brotha. My condolences 🙏🏼
At 65 mph the forces on your body are immense, multiple bones broken organs torn and punctured, concussions, brain bleeds are expected. You may look pretty intact from the outside (aswell as the passenger compartment of the vehicle) but your insides tell a very different story.
TBH I wonder if the rating cited was for that crash or just the normal 30 MPH government crash. Because there certainly seemed to be a lot of intrusion into the passenger compartment.
10:10
Not only is fünf prounounced as something like finf, it also means five not four lol
I would love to see what the late 80's early 1990's Ford Festiva ( made by kia) was rated. Every one i saw in junkyard the motor shot out the bottom and passenger cabins were good.
You don't want to be in a head on collision in a ford fiesta...
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James needs to be a guest on good mythical morning!!
Love the Chris Farley reference💯💯💯
I think a big difference is the use of factory cars. Mods make a difference, though I feel that they often won't be the best because mods can change the structure.
Would like to see how those mods I saw in HS would do in a crash, like that one lifted ranger that had a chain for a front bumper.
I'm interested in how all the body stiffening mods they did to the Miata affect this. I'd imagine they affect how the car crumples
Me who has two cars from the 70’s and I can bend the doors with one hand: 🤷🏻♂️Guess I’ll walk.
11:05 as a father of 3 I would TOTALLY support you making an car seat episode! You’d get views for sure lol
I love the video gang! I love the idea of this video and bring light how safe cars have gotten!
I think for the next Stocky should be a S13 Silvia/240sx! Maybe even a coupe could have some love!!
i feel like u guys should just do the d-list with all the host. it would be great seeing different opinions
And the editors worst nightmare.
chaotic evil donut video
Catfish Camaros are pretty tough just don’t roll it ! I rolled mine 5 times and roof pinned me down ! Almost broke my neck ! 😮💨
time to spin the wheel of mythicality 😂 I love gmm
Make an Up to Speed on Senna, Vettel, Schumacher, Alonso, Prost etc !
My 1998 GMC Safari was rated 1*, but went up to 3* for the driver in 2000 :)
Don’t be scared in a 4th gen camaro or trans am. I’ve totaled one, walked away with a sore neck, I know several people personally who have totaled them way worse than mine was and walked away without scratches and there’s countless people on the forums and Facebook groups that have totaled these cars and been fine. They’re actually pretty damn safe in accidents.
*edit* I should’ve specified, when I totaled mine, I wrapped it around a telephone pole, just right at the b pillar on the drivers side. Window shot down when it happened, so I popped the T top off, and crawled out.
Having a massive front end really helps. I've often wondered how newer cars, with modern crumple zone knowledge and building techniques, would fair in crashes if they still had 6+ foot long hoods.
@@scottthewaterwarrior definitely helps. I should’ve specified, when I totaled mine, I wrapped it around a telephone pole, just right at the b pillar on the drivers side. Window shot down when it happened, so I popped the T top off, and crawled out.
5:30 Chevy: Bet
I don't know if dads are your target demo, but I'd love to see Donut putting car seats to the test. I need to know what's going to keep my toddler safe when I'm doing some smokey smokey burnies with the boys.
Considering the fact that all of my dream cars are american classics form the late '60s/early '70s, I'm gonna say they're deathtraps.
at least you’ll die in what you love
@@sbh_tx Fair enough.
Honestly, a car seat D-List would be awesome for all the car moms and car dads out here. Not sure if it would really fit the scope/vibe of donut though.
i think it would im sure much like hoonigan they have kids or plan to (see 1000hp minivan) and would want to be able to impress their kids with the world of cars but safely.
Recommended goin crazy
We all know why they made the mustang the safest car😂
They went well for crowd attacker
They have pretty strong frames. I’ve smashed into traffic signs before and all the damage was a cracked bumper cover. It surprised me, I thought it was gonna bend like a pancake.
Cars done got yeeted.
So happy you're still doing these 🥺 super cute Teggies
10:25
I'm sorry guys but you have to work at your German skills
"Fünf" as you said it is 5
"Vier" would be 4
Love the videos keep it up 💪🏼
Essen scheiße brüder
One crash test that haunts me is the 2001 F-150. Even in 2022 you still see a million of them on the roads and the overlap test was just horrific, the frame bent so hard that the entire cab contorted. Not to mention I grew up in one😳
No that honor goes to the GM minivan trio.
but did you die?
my dad has one, oh no
Yeah... Don't buy Ford unless you have a death wish. Pinto fires, Explorer rollovers, Fiesta/Focus transmissions... The list continues. Ford doesn't care about safety. Only about your money.
Love the GMM reference there at the end. Definitely wasn't expecting that
0:02 - me when I see Raid: shadow legends
Vehicle crash safety is very important. One of the reasons I bought my golf❤️
Rip people with challengers
oh my GAWD, I love the references to Tommy Boy! lol