His DQ And The Cayuga Cheating Scandal
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- Опубліковано 16 січ 2025
- Chris Zaldain and Trait Zaldain sit down with Spencer Shuffield to talk his upbringing in fishing, his life before BPT, his DQ at MLF, the other Cayuga controversy through his eyes, and much more on this week's The Bilge Podcast presented by @battlebornbatteries
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The bilge podcast is rocketing to the top of bass fishing podcasts. Great questions asked with inside knowledge we all crave. NOW show that shop chris is building!!
The roof is going on next week and the bi-fold garage door. It is getting close! Headed home to see it
Ive drawn him several times and been able to get to know him a little. Ive also been lucky to draw more than a few full time guys as well. He's the best ive ever been in the boat with by far. He works harder than i thought was possible and is a really good guy. Sucks he got rolled with the mlf deal. If half the people knew the truth about their favorite anglers, they probably wouldnt be fans anymore.
Anything is possible, but I doubt it. Nobody is a Saint, but it would take a lot for me to dislike some of my heros in the sport!
Thanks for having Spencer as a guest and letting him explain the details.
Great clip..Spencer is a great guy and a heck of an Angler. No explanation needed about the deal last year, things happen. Look forward to watching both of you guys for many years ahead 🤟
I love how even with him explaining how his DQ went down you could tell he still can't say what he wants to say for fear of what Daddy Boyd and his goons might do. Best of luck Spencer! I hope you are able to make it to BASS one day and no longer have to live your life under the Bass fishing mafia's rule.
Can you imagine…your career in the hands of a jackass like Boyd Duckett!! As long as he has Jacob, Ott & Connell happy he will destroy anyone else who doesn’t comply. Plenty of stories to back that up, even James Watson elaborates on Low Budget live recently.
He is afraid to speak because he ll get whacked with fine against the confidentiality clause that Watson spoke about on Luke Dunkin. The MLF just seems like such a shady organization.
I fully expected to hate this dude after everything I heard and the little bit I saw, but I cant hate the guy. I wish him luck and I hope everything works out for him. Awesome show.
That was a great interview. Really enjoyed hearing his side of it. Good luck to both of you next year.
Time to get an anglers union or anglers association to protect these guys. Every major sport has one.
Thank you fir having him on
You picked out a great guest as always. Love the pod. Stay brutal trait.😂
Trait for speaker of the fish house!
Spencer is a good dude! Great show again. Raising the bar.
Keep it up guys! Awesome watch! Thank you with my morning coffee!
I always loved watching his dad Ron. I was in the game early on and he was always a favorite for me.
I followed Trait on her FB while she was on tour. I watched the frist couple of Podcast and started to hate her. Now its the opposite. She is brutally honest and I love that. She turned me around. I have a crush on her. She doesnt pull any punches. I also knew Ron Shuffield from many years ago. He obviously raised a wonderful man. Spencer seems like a man of integrity. Too bad he has to work so hard to get railroaded like that.Tournament Bass fishing is a tough gig.
Love the style of your podcast! Good job!
Spencer is an amazing person. This was a great interview. I would love to see ya'll do an interview with Jacob Wheeler. You could ask him what it's like fishing with Scott Martin.
Hot dang you guys are bringing the fire with this topic and the JJ scope show. Haven't watched yet, but I lost all respect for the MLF and field at Cayuga after that shetshow of a derby. Great job getting the juice!
Your videos are well done.
I only watch Live when I'm driving and sleepy.
-Genius Spencer
Good interview yall👍
Lesson here is if your reputation and livelihood depend on it then stay out of the grey.
Right. The fact he said I knew that fish was there but I could not see him, then goes to tell what the rule actually means and why he thought it was legit. 😂 A cheat is a cheat no matter how you cheat.
He knew exactly what he was doing - but the way he initially denied everything especially an earlier podcast , he said he unhooks fish like that all the time on the side of the boat....yeah ok
@@jobrandofishing how can it be cheating if the tournament director or rules official says it’s okay?
Great podcast. Thanks for posting.
Man the ammount of feather I could ruffle just talking about what being on the lake that week looked like. Watched alot of the event from the boat and this tournament was DEPLORABLE.
I can only imagine. The organization has these guys thinking they did no wrong
@@Zaldaingerous crazy to watch a line of pros poled down waiting to catch a bedding bass one after another. Could watch the same bass get caught 6 or 7 times a day every day of the event. All those smallies were on a total of MAYBE 4 miles of shoreline.
Heck Ya!!!!! Jay...I need that heater cause e ery time I overnight headaches and yukky can't wait to get this heater rig
My new favorite angler after hearing his back story. He will be the most winning angler over the next 2 years.
Got a lot of respect for Spencer with all the things he had to deal with his ex-wife and being the best Dad he could be.
Hell yea epic shawn ryan podcast during work and a bilge podcast after!
awesome as always
Wow! I'm glad Spencer was able to tell his side of the story. It's far different than what I read on online. I feel bad for most of the MLF guys.....clearly there are ethical issues with MLF ownership.
Most of the violations were on camera.
Thanks for sharing your story Spencer!
Pro Fishing payouts need to be addressed period, should be the number one priority for all the anglers. 🤷 Good stuff as always🤘
I would have to read the rules on catching the same fish. I am hearing the wording “ Grey Area “ playing within the rules. I don’t know how I feel about this. Before throwing stones I’d have to see the footage and read the rules to make my final. Great podcast!
After you watch the footage, you will see him as guilty 💯. And there's audio of him saying that everybody's doing it and that he is going to catch the same 4 big ones each day.....so yeah Everyone else that did it should be held accountable too but he is guilty.
@@mikeleistner1071 I actually think a bunch of them were doing it. Exactly which ones I am not for sure. I watched a podcast on bass university with David Dudley and he didn’t say he was doing it but acted like it wasn’t a big deal. Dudley’s wording and explanations made me think he felt like it was within the rules. You would have to listen to that podcast to understand what I am saying. He used some analogies of other pro sports playing in the gray area. If you listen to podcast I believe it is at least 1/2 through before it gets to the discussion
@davidharris4030 Absolutely agree that many broke rules or at least tried to skirt around them. I watched it live and heard the anglers' commentary and the announcers' reactions and thought it was suspect immediately. So, definitely got me listening to several videos surrounding the drama. Quite aquite a few guys were in the "gray" area of the rules. I listened to that one with Dudley and he was implying that rules were being broken and is the case all-too-often and that "everyone that followed the rules at Cayuga, like him got throttled, thrrrroootttllled" by the others
@@mikeleistner1071 I definitely wouldn’t feel right catching the same fish. If all of those anglers discussed those rules prior to competition and agreed, but that doesn’t seem to be the case. Bottom line is we all know what the rule was about but evidently some decided to skirt around it.
@@mikeleistner1071I don’t think he is guilty because they were told they could do it. I don’t know if they should be able to do it or not but the way the rule was written it was allowed
It's a male on the nest not a "woman' except for when they actually spawn, and catching that bass multiple times is not a good thing...even if putting them in a live well is worse..but good to hear from the man at the centre of it all. He handled the situation very well
Favor la fav Fishcast! Keep them coming
as a co angler, i had the honor to fish with Spencer on Dardanelle in a Toyota tournament 3 years ago. Spencer
was not in contention for a check, and he called the tournament director, Mark McWha to make sure it was legal to CULL a DEAD fish. The call was on speaker, so iI heard every word. HE already knew the answer, but he wanted me to hear it from the tournament director before he did it. CULL a DEAD BASS!
Another great podcast🐟
People can believe what they want, that’s how things work. Knowing this man and his parents, I can tell you there isn’t a dishonest bone in them. This is a great family and highly respected here. Might be a few guys with hurt feelings because they got outfished by them regularly lol.
I’ll say this….I taught Spencer in Sunday school one time and the conversation came up about plans for the future. I asked Spencer about college and he said he had no intention to do anything but fish. I asked him if he thought it’d be good to have something to fall back on and he dead looked me in the eyes and said he didn’t need a fall back. He truly never had a plan B. So when he said it wasn’t worth dragging himself through the mud and not being able to fish to fight something he had already provided proof of, I believe him.
I’m a new fan! We need more men like this in the world. Humble with God first. Great podcast 💪
Yessir love listening to Spence
MLF is all about Boyd’s himself & his intimidation of the anglers. He can’t say anything bad about MLF because they’ll “cull” him! Great Spencer didn’t loose any sponsors.
MLF wouldn't admit that they screwed up because Boyd doesn't want to admit he was wrong. So they dq'd spencer because they wanted to quell some of the public outcry from social media. He did what the other guys did and he had the fish unhooked outside the boat, which while incidental do to the finger hook, put a huge target on his back from Boyd when they needed to hammer someone.
Spencer is a good dude. He has some great OG bait knowledge as well
I lived in NY and until recently you couldn’t even fish for bass during the closed season. Some bodies of water and parts of the state you still can’t. Recently the state opened bass fishing up to catch and release fish for bass. MLF was totally wrong holding that event in what any bass angler from NY would consider the closed season. I hold them responsible for anything negative that happened at Cayuga.
You can hold a bass during spawn without catching and hammering the same 20 smallmouth. We do it in kayaks all the time. We actually check pictures to ensure the same bass is not submitted by anglers multiple times. It was MLFs obscure wording that left a loophole and a few anglers just not doing the right thing. Those no fish periods are commy bull.
@@jeremypierce1607 PA opened up to catch and release around the same time but no tournaments are allowed
the closed season in ny is the dumbest thing ever. Can’t fish for them all year then they get on bed and I can go hammer them. We should be able to fish tournaments anytime other than last week of may- first week of July
I heard Arkansas guy I was all in! Go Hogs Spencer! Are you related to Dan Bilzerian?
Good stuff and respect that dude 🐟
To be honest I didn’t really like Spencer but after hearing his story and hearing him man up and handle the crappy hand he was given by the old snakes at MLF. I will be rooting for him every tournament and life. Great guy. God Bless him and his family. The more I hear about MLF the less I’m liking them. Seems like there are a lot of snakes running that show. Don’t feel sorry for any of the original anglers of BPT they had to know what they where getting in bed with and the way they attacked BASS instead of shutting there mouths and just worrying about there product almost makes it feel kind of good that they are getting screwed over. Anyhow great show as always keep it up.
I fished with Ron once, great guy
Could yal by any chance get Keith Poche on the podcast?
I invited him on back at Lay Lake at one of the weigh-ins that week and I never heard back from him. I invited him on a second time during one of his livestreams about the DQ and he acknowledged the comment but again, never said he wanted to
Thats 5 or six anglers ive listened to saying they were told that by the TD. Thats crazy. I think knowing that makes it a little different. More about MLF than the anglers doing something wrong. That must be why no one got DQ? I Still don't like weighing same fish 3 times.
I will take his explanation with a grain of salt…. If he’s that innocent let’s see some proof, sounds to good to be true. Great show though keep them coming
Rightfully so. We wanted to let him tell his story and let the viewers come to their own conclusions
I hear ya!
Unless he has a audio recording of the phone call what is he going to do? The problem is the rules and the format not with the anglers
Spencer can spin it how he wants. NO ONE unhooks a fish outside the boat below the gunnel.
The whole "Well I ain't looking at it" deal. Not singling out Spencer. Everyone knows what the intent of the rule was. If you don't understand it on the inside....you have some work to do.
Don't have any ill feelings towards him. It was handled and now it's over.
Great fisherman and sounds like good guy. Insightful speaker. Look forward to seeing him on live this next year and many more to come.
Back in the day his dad was bad ass!
I watched this interview when it first came out and was convinced Shuffield knowingly cheated (and I still not convinced he didn't). I am not a fan of BPT and did not see the footage of him hiding the position of the hook to his boat official. After watching this a second time 2 months later and learning more about what occurred regarding other anglers in the same tournament the BPT rules "were" (don't know if they are fixed) absolutely ridiculous by allowing anglers to knowingly target the same fish more than once per day. From this interview, and others I've heard with other anglers that participated in this tournament, it's apparent that the anglers felt the rule was "unethical" because many, including Shuffield, checked and double checked whether or not they could target the same fish more than once a day. From what Shuffield claims, the fish he caught outside the mouth off a bed was not in plain site, even though he admits he knew the fish was on a bed in that location. If that's true, I don't see how you can punish this guy because the rule was the culprit. If he did see the fish and unhooked it before his official saw it than he did violate the rule but without seeing both the vantage point of Shuffield and the boat official you really can't make a call. Yet another reason BPT is not a legitimate contest, too much apples to oranges crap going on.
If your have to go into detail about how the rule reads and I "technically" didn't do anything wrong then that makes ppl question your ethics. That's where my issue stands
That’s how professional contests work. If you don’t take all of the advantages available to you that are legal you will be beat by the guys who do. It’s the same in racing or any other individual event. He didn’t break the rule because it was written poorly and he was told he wasn’t breaking the rule
Man!! You can tell Spence is so scared of big daddy Boyd. Please do a show with Luke Dunkin! He is not scared to tell the truth!
Spencer is desperate to succeed, by his own admission he doesn't have a "plan b". Desperate men will always push the boundaries by necessity. I don't see how it was right for ONLY him to have been punished for the Cayuga debacle.
Never knew much about Spencer. He's a decent guy who I'll pull for in the future.
Eye opening. Even in a small town in Arkansas.. You can get into trouble... Keep one eye open parents..
Wow, this guy is something else!
I don’t know man he knew he was catching the same fish, even though it was legal that can’t feel good ethically. Why not just catch that fish 10 times since it’s legal ?
Agreed, just because it's "ok" to do does not make it the right thing to do. Definitely riding the line on a very slippery slope.
I would catch the same fish 10 times if the tournament director said I could do it. The problem is the rules not the anglers. There is nothing wrong with following the rules of the tournament directors
Great interview with Sheffield! Dang shame that happened to him to him. I’ll tell you my opinion, and Trait will love it, cause we have the same gift of voicing our opinion, so here goes, the leagues make those gray areas in rules so they can screw whoever they want over and take there winnings! PERIOD!!! There should never be a gray area rule. That’s why pro need a board to protect them outside of the leagues authority. You’re welcome Trait!! I like your attitude!! PS Chris I like the way that you fish and entertain the fans on TV!!! You and Sheffield should teach the other pros how to entertain!! Great job! Keep the faith guys! 69 year old fan! 👍🥸🙏
Good show.. mlf is jacked up..
Dude is scared to death of being kicked out.😂
His AOY by 1 point . I won mine by 1 point too fishing the western strens in 2009 I was 20 then.. But didn’t win anything for it lol. But o well I did my job and the trophy last… I beat one of the best co anglers ever on the west coast Roy Desmangles , shot out to my boy Roy he’s a real 1 💯. Hopefully I can get my health good and be able to get a legit job again. I miss being able to fish like I use too
I never lost respect for Spencer during that debacle. However I’ve continuously lost respect for back stabbing Boyd Duckett. Chris, your tha man! Great episode, this was breathing room for a lot of folks!
Excited for this podcast. Hope Mr.Shuffield speaks on being the “fall guy” for bucket head ducket. My advice, for FREE; tell mlf boy kiss it. Unless a NDA clause has got him lassoed. Hope everyone figured out who the chosen wheeler dealer is, hate to be attacked to a piece of sh*t like bucket head, money for soul isn’t that how it goes!!
Guilty or not people will have their opinion and judgement. What I think is BS is how MLF singled out one person when they knew full well that the others were indeed guilty. The other completely BS issue is allowing the same fish to be caught a second time. As far as Im concerned that is unethical.
I truly believe he is sincere . And wasn't guilty of cheating. And as far as lie detector test go anybody nervous can fail the test. Watch the show 48hrs there is people innocent fails it if they are very nervous. And with him being the sole bread winner of his family you know he was nervous!
Definitely agree that many more should have been punished, fined, or DQ'd along with Spencer but made him the scape goat.
So they could’ve legally caught the same fish 5 times??? As long as they weren’t visually targeting it? This makes no sense. The point of a 5 fish derby is to weigh 5 fish! How is anything else acceptable?
It’s concerning that the league that touts itself as being the leaders of conservation in tournament fishing signed off on doing it and why did they sign off on it? To inflate the weights for the event?
He was not the only one. There were ALOT of catches that were unhooked in the water. Terrible tournament and even more terrible officiating. Do better.
How the F could people hate Trait, ive followed her for years, and have always thought she was great. Ive always loved how she was outspoken, yet so for the sport she was in.
Some one with money needs to buy the FLW side back and get rid of Duckett
Did you have to sign an NDA after the scandal?
How dare someone post on social media to question them!
He will not ever convince me he didn’t know what he was doing.
Another great interview, I first met Ron when Spencer was in diapers.
Ran into this guy at Headwaters one day and tried to talk to him “how’d you catch emm” he was a complete dick to me. This was well before he made BPT. Lame. Can’t believe he wrap boated me who the F cares.
How can you be guilty of a rule infrastruction when you have an official in the boat.... and if the official looked at what he was fishing and said it was good then no rule was broken
good stuff right there......the rest or the story
Zaldain, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like. Chris like learn a few more words.
Where’s your podcast? Like, I’d like to listen?
Denial or the Nile?
Shedding some light on the shady practices of MLF. everyone knew that rule was sketchy but how it was handle was terrible.
Poor guy got screwed! No results from polygraph ! I think he has way to much to loose than gain ! The Marshall's stood up for him ! Look what mlf is going through ! KARMA IS A BITCH < HOLD YOUR HEAD UP SPENCER ! DAD WAS A CLASS ACT ALSO !
I lived on Logan martin for 20 years and grew up fishing with Taco, he was a legend and would beat your brains in with his shaky head, he just called it a jiggin worm
I get it. You think I'm cheating, that's cool , take that fish off my weight and I'll beat you anyways
I love that he gives credit to God.
MLF should have never had that event. Smallmouth on beds are easy to catch over and over. Immediately releasing them just makes it easier. There not Largemouth you don’t have to be looking at them.
Spencer seems like a stand up guy.
Appreciate your stand for Jesus Christ brother!
Trouble follows this guy, end of story
Amazing how there are 2 sides of the story. He was the fall boy . Sad really
Catching fish twice is BS on amy tournament.. thats why weigh in tournaments rule.
I have been saying for the past couple years what needs to be outlawed is the use of floggers during the tournament. When wheeler and Junior are sitting there actually looking at the fish with a flogger while fishing for them I feel is not right
It is legal for any angler to use a flogger.
Biggest cheater in the sport
The more i hear about MLF, the more corrupt I think it is. I feel bad for the ethical anglers that are on this tour. Spencer is a stand up guy for sure.
Why would they not tell him he failed the test?
Why would he not DEMAND the results?
What’s he going to do? He can demand they do anything he wants but his future and income is in their hands. They don’t have to do anything and he has basically no recourse. Just taking it and moving on is the best for his ability to make money in that series
@devinwillis7787 What's he going to do? If he knows he WAS being honest, he demands the results.
@devinwillis7787 I think he's lying btw, I guarantee they told him he failed it.
@@sickofidiots4095 he can demand they dance around in a pink dress but they’ll just tell him to go pound sand
@@sickofidiots4095 Boyd does whatever he wants. Plenty of people have had inconclusive tests or failed and not been penalized. Polygraphs are useless
I get Dairy Queen'd all the time. 🤔
Yeah i dont buy his story 🤷♂️ too many things dont add up...im surprised trait was throwing such soft balls after going so hard against wheeler.
Im sorry but im not buying his side on the story on the "hiccup". Innocent people dont just roll over and accept a DQ and say "im not gonna fight it". He knew he was in the wrong. If you you truly had all this evidence that the fish catch was legit, you would push back. Honestly there are holes in everything this guy says.
Exactly. He said when what happened to me. You mean when you did what you did.
Agreed
100% Agree. Every single interview he has done since, he acts like he is innocent and the victim. He sounds and looks guilty everytime he comes out. Dude just quit doing interviews at this point. Check out the one he did with Blazer boat pro staff shortly after...."absolutely tuuurrrrible" in best Charles Barkley voice
Spencer is a victim of POS Boyd Duckett! Boyd needed to get the eyes off tournament winners for catching the same bed fish 2-3 times a day. Spencer had a bad camera angle on live. The MLF is burning down
& this has scapegoat painted all over it! Boyd needs to worry about the Organization instead of his Shitty Fishing career. He is no better than a career politician. The entire tournament on Cayuga Should Have Been Disqualified.
5 bass limit l, weigh-in only