King George V - Professor Vernon Bogdanor

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  • @shannonflaherty353
    @shannonflaherty353 3 роки тому +26

    I love the letter he wore bake to the little boy. That was so sweet and kind. You can tell alot about a person for the way they speak to children.

    • @mcmulcat
      @mcmulcat 3 роки тому +10

      Too bad he treated his own children so brutally.

    • @susanbuffington1750
      @susanbuffington1750 2 роки тому +2

      Prince John, such a tragic child.

    • @zzzbbbooo
      @zzzbbbooo 2 роки тому +2

      @@susanbuffington1750 George V didn't treat Prince John badly at all - he was indulgent with him compared to the other children.

    • @stephaniemurria5534
      @stephaniemurria5534 2 роки тому +2

      @@mcmulcat he wasn't that bad of a father.

    • @andreishade2964
      @andreishade2964 2 роки тому

      Too bad they cared little for children in their colonial realm . Its like that the late Queen answered ( her lady in waiting ) to children in Sevastopol ( Crimea , Russia) , but did everything ( through Teresa May and Boris Johnson) to ensure suffering of hundred of thousands children of Donbass ( Eastern Ukraine) and continues till this day by British made artillery and Inlaw , Brimstone mussles . How are the children fared of Diego Garcia archipelago? What about Children of Iraq? Have They ( Britain , US , Nato ) provided safe passage for children of Mosul, before cutting off water , sewer , electricity ?!! What was the reason again that British intelligence provided for invasion?! If History taught us anything , is that of British Monarchy cynical two-faced double dealings . Till this Day . By the way , He ( king George) looks alike like two water droplets with Imperator Nikolai 2 ( last Russian Tzar) . Weren't they cousins ? Did They try to help his Royal Cousin ? Or had they just appropriated Tzars Nikolai's family money in the London Banks?

  • @jamgirl86
    @jamgirl86 3 роки тому +15

    My favorite Monarch. Flawed but endlessly fascinating.

  • @dawnbowra9349
    @dawnbowra9349 4 роки тому +42

    My grandfather worked for king George V and queen Mary as a grenidier guard. A boy solider. A musician for the royal family. Pop left in 1925 for Australia with a trade in carpentry as a. Ten pound Pom. He had a land grant and lost it during the Great Depression. I have a butter knife from the table of KingGeorge VI when he visited Western Australia in the 50's that my grandmother gave to my mother. How he Aguirred it is a story that remains a mystery. Though we know he was involved in building kings park memorial gazebos after the First World War and a air raid warden in the 2nd WW.

    • @BillKing8888
      @BillKing8888 2 роки тому +8

      Queen Mary is said to have been a kleptomaniac so look at it as just settling the score.

    • @londoncalling151
      @londoncalling151 2 роки тому +1

      @@BillKing8888 lol lol lol

    • @bobgilkes3888
      @bobgilkes3888 2 роки тому

      Lll

    • @saraswatkin9226
      @saraswatkin9226 2 роки тому

      @@BillKing8888 apparently she only collected the Crowns of Europe from fallen heads.

    • @UKAlanR
      @UKAlanR Рік тому

      Today's education - that Australia suffered air raids during WW2! Thanks for that

  • @paulinekenefick2215
    @paulinekenefick2215 3 роки тому +13

    Very informative. Great insite into the difficulties faced by Btitish monarchs. He did his best .

  • @christianestaninger6589
    @christianestaninger6589 4 роки тому +9

    Excellent series. Excellent speaker

  • @sarahstrong5927
    @sarahstrong5927 7 років тому +45

    when people said Churchill would destroy the noble virtues of the Royal Navy upon is appointment as First Lord of the Admiralty he replied...." Do you mean the virtues of rum, the lash and sodomy...???"

  • @CarolynFahm
    @CarolynFahm 7 років тому +39

    Excellent lecture series. Looking forward to the next one.

  • @ian_b
    @ian_b 4 роки тому +15

    An excellent talk by Professor BuggerBognor.

    • @rory4605
      @rory4605 3 роки тому +2

      George V was actually insulting Bogdanor on his deathbed, despite dying 7 years before he was born.

    • @dariusanderton3760
      @dariusanderton3760 2 роки тому +1

      @@rory4605 a man of great foresight

    • @2msvalkyrie529
      @2msvalkyrie529 2 роки тому +1

      He would probably have said.
      " Bogdanoff ?!?.......Tell him to bog
      off ! ! "

  • @johnmurray8428
    @johnmurray8428 Рік тому +1

    Clear, concise and informative. Thank you.

  • @bobdaniels7866
    @bobdaniels7866 7 років тому +28

    He was right for England at his time.

  • @stevendaniel8126
    @stevendaniel8126 3 роки тому +13

    As a young man, he was incredibly handsome.

    • @GodisMyNo1
      @GodisMyNo1 Рік тому +2

      To me he was always handsome

    • @GodisMyNo1
      @GodisMyNo1 Рік тому +1

      He was handsome as an old man too

    • @mikeanagnostou4399
      @mikeanagnostou4399 Рік тому +1

      He bore a striking resemblance to his first cousin Tsar Nicholas II. Victoria truly was “the Grandmother of Europe”

    • @sycwk5874
      @sycwk5874 Рік тому +1

      ​@@mikeanagnostou4399Actually, they are maternal cousins, their mothers are siblings (Dagmar and Alexandra)

  • @sarahhall738
    @sarahhall738 2 роки тому +4

    My great great grandfather was in charge of the royal train during his reign. He was based at Liverpool Street station london

  • @lauramorarelli4720
    @lauramorarelli4720 6 місяців тому

    Really interesting lecture I love the life of British monarchs they are so different

  • @SomeSmallFish
    @SomeSmallFish 3 роки тому +18

    He seemed flawed, though I guess we all are, but he's probably my favorite British monarch.

    • @timeandspace_3.142
      @timeandspace_3.142 3 роки тому

      Can you elaborate as to why he's your favourite?

    • @jamgirl86
      @jamgirl86 3 роки тому

      Same. I adore him. Endlessly fascinating.

    • @GodisMyNo1
      @GodisMyNo1 Рік тому

      ​@@jamgirl86and very handsome

  • @lenwilkinson672
    @lenwilkinson672 2 роки тому +1

    Enjoyed the talk. On King George. V. Very revealing and sympathetic feeling for the King.

  • @cressyxlx4711
    @cressyxlx4711 7 років тому +6

    Thanks for the upload. Very interesting 💜

  • @Inverted-Compass
    @Inverted-Compass 4 роки тому +4

    Awesome, Thank you.

  • @rory4605
    @rory4605 3 роки тому +13

    "Nowadays we don't know what political views the private secretaries to the monarch hold"
    Sir Edward Young is the current one. He's previously been an advisor to Michael Portillo and William Hague, hmm, I guess we'll never know!

    • @EdMcF1
      @EdMcF1 3 роки тому +1

      Yep, he's a Lefty!

    • @TheBlueTheMan
      @TheBlueTheMan 2 роки тому

      There’s a fair bit of nuance behind these appointments, it’s not just he worked with tories he’s a Tory.
      One of Gordon Brown’s advisers is now an exec of Saatchi & Saatchi, for which most advertising campaigns by the tories are made by Saatchi & Saatchi

  • @JRobbySh
    @JRobbySh 5 років тому +9

    I wonder what his opinion is of the recent mess. Surely he seems now to accept Elizabeth’s passivity as helpful to the country. I wonder when history is written we will discover she has had any role at all since the ‘60s.

    • @GodisMyNo1
      @GodisMyNo1 Рік тому +2

      Her role was to bring stability to her people and keep the UK united. Its called united kingdom for a reason

  • @RonJohn63
    @RonJohn63 7 років тому +28

    I've watched all three videos so far, and Professor Bogdanor has proclaimed *all three* to be *"the ideal* constitutional monarch". LOL

    • @bigfan2710
      @bigfan2710 7 років тому

      RonJohn63 I think he refers to George V as "an ideal constitutional monarch" but I understand your point.

    • @jema9735
      @jema9735 5 років тому +2

      He was, in that he stayed out of politics and just about all else.

    • @glen7318
      @glen7318 4 роки тому +7

      There isn't a blueprint -different monarchs have done things a bit differently as they are not in teh same historical period. One of the main requirements is to be dutiful which George V was and also George VI and the present queen. And they've all stayed out of politics.

    • @ane-louisestampe7939
      @ane-louisestampe7939 3 роки тому +1

      Apparently he doesn't know Margrethe II ;-)

    • @karinlawrence6500
      @karinlawrence6500 2 роки тому +2

      @@glen7318 All stayed out of politics... except for that little Australian incident in 1975 when the democratically elected Labor Prime Minister was - with the signature of Queen Elizabeth 2 - dismissed from Parliament... and a conservative party prime minister installed in his place.

  • @simplelifelost
    @simplelifelost 2 роки тому +5

    Prof. Bogdanor is much more generous towards George V’s stamp collection than David Starkey.

    • @williamhicken1206
      @williamhicken1206 2 роки тому +6

      Starkey is not generous to anyone or anything.

    • @2msvalkyrie529
      @2msvalkyrie529 2 роки тому +3

      No doubt George "s collection was more impressive than little David's ?

    • @Patrick3183
      @Patrick3183 Рік тому

      To Starkey, the stamp collection epitomizes the banal about George V

  • @fdebate2663
    @fdebate2663 6 років тому +2

    I Like Your Lectures. And. Enjoyed Your Lecture On BBC News On Smaller Political Parties.

  • @andreishade2964
    @andreishade2964 2 роки тому +3

    He looks astonishingly like Tzar Impereror Nikolai II ( the last of Romanov )

    • @annied4084
      @annied4084 2 роки тому +4

      Both look alike as their mothers were sisters. Both took more out of their mothers features rather than their fathers.

  • @carlousmagus5387
    @carlousmagus5387 3 роки тому +8

    The Sovereign should be able to Veto Legislation, and Palarment able to override it with a two thirds majority.

    • @mortalclown3812
      @mortalclown3812 2 роки тому

      To grant one in an unelected position power could be a most regrettable turn of events...and one not easily corrected. Look how long it's taken to get rid of a monarchy. Oops.

    • @2msvalkyrie529
      @2msvalkyrie529 2 роки тому

      Given the absolute shower we have at the moment - both main
      parties ! - might be best if just dismissed the lot of them and did it himself. ? Couldn't be much worse.!

    • @Patrick3183
      @Patrick3183 Рік тому

      @@mortalclown3812 wrong

  • @catgladwell5684
    @catgladwell5684 Рік тому +1

    I have just been looking at images of York cottage Sandringham. It doesn't look like a glum little villa to me. The furnishings are of the period (in the photographs) but anyone who considers it a small house should have a look at what ordinary people live in in the UK. I wonder what they would think of a terraced house or a typical semi.

  • @rabidrabbitshuggers
    @rabidrabbitshuggers 2 роки тому +3

    His simplicity kind of reminds me of Ulysses S. Grant.

  • @jeffreystreeter5381
    @jeffreystreeter5381 2 роки тому

    Fabulous lecture.

  • @alancassell566
    @alancassell566 2 роки тому +2

    Queen Mary... The women who saved the monarchy 1910-2022...

    • @GodisMyNo1
      @GodisMyNo1 7 місяців тому

      Both George and Mary saved the monarchy

  • @BillKing8888
    @BillKing8888 2 роки тому +2

    It sounds less like government by parliament than by dinner party.

  • @tegneblok
    @tegneblok 4 роки тому +2

    which author did he read ? 00:01:25

  • @JuizysphelimYT
    @JuizysphelimYT 2 роки тому

    Listening to his Christmas message ( and thinking also of Churchill’s numerous speeches) where did the current speech affectations and accents of the upper classes come from?

  • @squareinsquare2078
    @squareinsquare2078 2 роки тому +1

    I came here looking for a fight between King George and Professor Vernon Bogdanor.

  • @TreforTreforgan
    @TreforTreforgan 2 роки тому

    ‘My, King George, what big eyes you have!’
    ‘All the better to not see you with’

    • @lynndenault4212
      @lynndenault4212 2 роки тому

      Like Princess Beatrice

    • @GodisMyNo1
      @GodisMyNo1 Рік тому

      His eyes werent as big in his youth. It was probably from his illness

    • @zzzbbbooo
      @zzzbbbooo Рік тому +1

      @@GodisMyNo1 He had the prominent Hanoverian eyes that many of the descendents of Queen Victoria inherited.

    • @GodisMyNo1
      @GodisMyNo1 9 місяців тому

      ​@@zzzbbbooohis eyes were gorgeous, nothing wrong with them

    • @GodisMyNo1
      @GodisMyNo1 Місяць тому

      ​@@zzzbbboooHis eyes were gorgeous

  • @tatuloa
    @tatuloa 3 роки тому +2

    The irony was , the rulers of the first global Emperial power understood the power of shared power , while lesser societies produced commoners who lusted for absolute domination ..

    • @MN8
      @MN8 2 роки тому

      commoners are noble and regal

  • @alancassell566
    @alancassell566 2 роки тому +1

    David windsor... The reason we got elizabeth york 1926 - 2022

    • @TyrSkyFatherOfTheGods
      @TyrSkyFatherOfTheGods 8 місяців тому

      We would have gotten her anyway, since she was his successor (Edward VIII was childless).

  • @alancassell566
    @alancassell566 2 роки тому

    Jimmy thomas.. Quality

  • @rory4605
    @rory4605 3 роки тому +3

    38:51 I'm pretty sure no one's ever laughed that hard at a Vernon Bogdanor joke.

    • @douglasweber2401
      @douglasweber2401 2 роки тому

      I love his dry sense of humor and do laugh at his quips.

  • @williamneumyer7147
    @williamneumyer7147 7 років тому +9

    Oh, it was "the common people" who signed Charles I's death warrant? Really, Mr. Lansbury?

    • @Patrick3183
      @Patrick3183 Рік тому

      Maybe he meant the House of Commons?

  • @-TimZambra
    @-TimZambra 6 років тому +6

    How many died in that meaningless war?

  • @dianesicgala4310
    @dianesicgala4310 3 роки тому +3

    I think a wonderful king.

  • @Larkinchance
    @Larkinchance 5 років тому +8

    What a tedious Christmas message.
    So I guess you could say that George V was not a party animal...

    • @suzanking5625
      @suzanking5625 5 років тому +1

      George V read at a Grade 3 level. He was semi literate. Diplomatic correspondence shows everyone knew. So, I guess you could say that George V was as dumb as a box of rocks and not quite as useful.

    • @johntuffin3262
      @johntuffin3262 5 років тому +10

      It is not the function of the king or queen to be amusing, or glamorous, or a party animal.

    • @zzzbbbooo
      @zzzbbbooo 4 роки тому +6

      This was recorded in the early days of radio. Apart from the fact that it was the King making the broadcast, all messages and speeches were delivered with much more formality in those days. Why compare today's standards on everything that happened in the past?

    • @Larkinchance
      @Larkinchance 4 роки тому +1

      @@zzzbbbooo George V had a reputation for being tedious.. probably played a part in his son debilitating stutter..

    • @Larkinchance
      @Larkinchance 4 роки тому +1

      @@suzanking5625 A box of cobbles

  • @psychosneighbor1509
    @psychosneighbor1509 2 роки тому +3

    Is it just me or is George V actually Tzar Nicholas? They're twins...

  • @tonicwater1234
    @tonicwater1234 17 днів тому

    3:12

  • @chel3SEY
    @chel3SEY Рік тому

    I'm baffled why the King's political views matter at all. They should be totally irrelevant. The sovereign isn't a politician. A constitutional monarch should keep his own political views to himself at all times. The more we know about the sovereign's views, the worse he is as a sovereign.

  • @dontcare7086
    @dontcare7086 3 роки тому +4

    As hard as he tried to hide his German heritage you can clearly hear it when he speaks. It is a weird mix between British English with some words pronounced like a German speaking English.

    • @ds1868
      @ds1868 3 роки тому +5

      Doesn't really matter. English is a Germanic language, the English invaded the island of Britain in the 5th and 6th centuries. The Angles from the northern German Baltic coast set up the kingdom of East Anglia, the Jutes from the Jutland peninsula set up the kingdom of Kent, but the larger invasions of the saxons from Northern Germany set up the other Engljsh Kingdoms most notably Wessex and Mercia. It doesn't matter the Hanoverians were German, they just retook the land they had already taken over 1,200 years before.

    • @Patrick3183
      @Patrick3183 Рік тому

      I don’t hear any German accent

    • @Patrick3183
      @Patrick3183 Рік тому

      @@ds1868 “the English invaded Britain” um what

    • @cjdewingmlis
      @cjdewingmlis Рік тому

      ⁠@@Patrick3183The geographic area known as the British Isles was originally populated by the Celts. The land was invaded by Germanic tribes (Jutes, Angles, and Saxons) from Northern Europe. They became the English.

  • @Humanophage
    @Humanophage Рік тому

    I'm surprised nothing was said about his relationship with his murdered family in Russia.

    • @GodisMyNo1
      @GodisMyNo1 9 місяців тому

      Im glad nothing was said. This isnt about the overrated Nicholas, but for George

  • @Adrian-yd8fk
    @Adrian-yd8fk 2 роки тому

    Spoiler alert, this a very interesting lecture but it King George v Prof Vernon Bogdanor is NOT a fight

  • @greghigdon3005
    @greghigdon3005 3 роки тому +1

    We

  • @michaeltowslee4111
    @michaeltowslee4111 27 днів тому

    The partition of Ireland was a political issue founded on religious animosities and the lies of 1641. One day Ulster will leave the United Kingdom. Either that will happenor a forced reunion will occur. It will be interesting to see what happens.

  • @user-le3jw8rs6b
    @user-le3jw8rs6b 5 років тому +5

    عندي عملة الملك جورج الخامس ذهبية وزن خمسة باوند عام 1911 وزن خمسة باوند مع اختام

  • @nilecrocodileRobyn
    @nilecrocodileRobyn 3 роки тому +5

    Bit of a bore. Liked shooting lots of animals.

    • @GodisMyNo1
      @GodisMyNo1 Місяць тому

      Everybody shot a lot of animals back then, thats how aristocracy spent their time. George wasnt the only one

    • @nilecrocodileRobyn
      @nilecrocodileRobyn Місяць тому

      @@GodisMyNo1 And?

  • @carmenvergara-labrin6069
    @carmenvergara-labrin6069 5 місяців тому

    George V Le Traître

    • @GodisMyNo1
      @GodisMyNo1 3 місяці тому

      George didnt betray anyone. His duty was only towards his country and he did that well. The tsar had cousins all over Europe. George wasnt his only cousin. Why didnt the other cousins help the tsar?

    • @carmenvergara-labrin6069
      @carmenvergara-labrin6069 3 місяці тому

      @@GodisMyNo1 George V était le monarque le plus important après le Tsar Nicolas II. Il disait lui-même "adorer" son cousin de toutes les Russies et n'hésitait pas à ajouter qu'il était son "préféré". De plus, il était le parrain d'une de ses enfants. Politiquement parlant, le Royaume-Uni était l'allié de la Russie pendant la première guerre mondiale. De plus la Tsarine Alexandra avait vécu en Angleterre et reçu une éducation anglaise selon les souhaits de sa grand-mère la grande Reine Victoria. Elle était sa petite fille préférée. La famille royale britannique, par tradition, était très proche de la famille impériale. Bien plus que les autres royaumes. De plus, et ce n'est pas rien, lors de l'arrestation à domicile du Tsar Nicolas II et de sa famille proche, George V, par l'intermédiaire de son ambassadeur en Russie, présenta immédiatement son "soutien" au Tsar lui laissant croire à lui et au monde entier qu'il les sauverait. Pour cette raison, dès l'abdication obligée du Tsar Nicolas II qui ne fut ni plus ni moins qu'un coup d'état, dès qu'il fut fait prisonnier chez lui avec les siens à Tsarskoïe Selo, l'empereur fut mis au fait que le roi George V était prêt à les secourir et qu'un bâteau serait mis très vite à sa disposition pour partir vers l'Angleterre. Le Tsar commença donc à préparer ses affaires pour le départ. Les autorités russes d'alors et les pays voisins comprirent que la famille impériale rejoindrait les terres britanniques. Seulement cela ne se produit pas. Bien au contraire. Le temps que le roi George V passa à faire miroiter à son "cher cousin Nicky" l'aide qui ne vint jamais, fut du temps perdu pour le Tsar Nicolas II qui ne put trouver d'autre solution. George V savait parfaitement ce qu'il en coûterait de retirer sa main. C'était la mort assurée.
      Un vrai Roi, un vrai Monarque où qu'il soit, décide et ses ministres suivent. Ne me faites pas croire que cela était impossible. Ne me faites pas croire que le roi du Royaume-Uni n'avait pas cette autorité. Alors oui. George V Le Traître.
      "Shame on you Georgi." Journal intime du Tsar Nicolas II, 1917

    • @GodisMyNo1
      @GodisMyNo1 3 місяці тому +2

      ​​@@carmenvergara-labrin6069 What a complete nonsense you have written. This is what happens when you get the info from tabloids, instead of historical books! George V was not the head of government. The government did not take orders from George. The king in UK is only a figurehead with no political power and no legislative power, and he is not allowed to interfere in international affairs.
      The king can be informed and consulted , but its the government that has the final say, so yes I will tell you that George V had no effective power because that is the truth.
      Educate yourself how constitutional monarchy works and how limited the king's power is.
      The british government reluctantly accepted to take the Romanovs in at first but rescinded their offer when Denmark and Swiss promised to help the Romanovs. The truth is nobody could help the Romanovs because it was impossible to get the Romanovs out of Russia. The revolutionaries had in control almost all the ports in Russia, and the Romanovs were thousands of miles away from the nearest port. So how would anyone get them out, when Romanovs were prevented by inside factors, out of outsiders's control? George had no power over the events in Russia!
      The russian government also failed to provide a safe passage for Romanovs to leave, because they feared backlash from the revolutionaries. Instead, they moved the Romanovs further from the capital.
      Also, three of the tsar's daughters were ill with measles and they were bedridden for months, they could not travel. What could George do about this?? Invent antibiotics?
      Beside, the tsar and his wife thought that things would calm and that monarchy in Russia would be restored.
      And, by the time the british government rescinded their offer, the bolsheviks were not in power and the tsar's life was not thought to be in danger. The russian provisional government had vowed to protect the Romanovs. Nobody could have imagined that bolsheviks would come in power and do what they did, months later. Hindsight is always 20/20.
      Its absurd that you blame George for all this, when it wasnt neither his fault nor his responsibility.
      Im sure you can't help all your cousins either, no matter how close you are to them!
      And Nicholas never wrote that in his diary. What is your source for that?
      My sources are historians Jane Ridley, Alexandra Churchill and Hellen Rappaport and her book "The race to save the Romanovs''.
      What is your source, your imagination??

  • @mohamedbinelias3246
    @mohamedbinelias3246 2 роки тому

    World app win full Pakistan