King George V - Professor Vernon Bogdanor

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  • It was during the reign of George V that constitutional monarchy reached its maturity. www.gresham.ac.uk/lectures-an...
    It came to be taken for granted that the powers of the sovereign would be used in a genuinely impartial way. This proved of particular importance with the advent of the first Labour government in 1924. George Vs reign coincided with the fall from power of five emperors, eight kings and eighteen other dynasties. But in Britain the monarchy gained in popular esteem and this helped to preserve parliamentary government in the difficult years between the wars.
    The transcript and downloadable versions of the lecture are available from the Gresham College website: www.gresham.ac.uk/lectures-an...
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  • @sarahstrong5927
    @sarahstrong5927 7 років тому +44

    when people said Churchill would destroy the noble virtues of the Royal Navy upon is appointment as First Lord of the Admiralty he replied...." Do you mean the virtues of rum, the lash and sodomy...???"

  • @shannonflaherty353
    @shannonflaherty353 2 роки тому +26

    I love the letter he wore bake to the little boy. That was so sweet and kind. You can tell alot about a person for the way they speak to children.

    • @mcmulcat
      @mcmulcat 2 роки тому +10

      Too bad he treated his own children so brutally.

    • @susanbuffington1750
      @susanbuffington1750 2 роки тому +2

      Prince John, such a tragic child.

    • @zzzbbbooo
      @zzzbbbooo 2 роки тому +2

      @@susanbuffington1750 George V didn't treat Prince John badly at all - he was indulgent with him compared to the other children.

    • @stephaniemurria5534
      @stephaniemurria5534 2 роки тому +2

      @@mcmulcat he wasn't that bad of a father.

    • @andreishade2964
      @andreishade2964 Рік тому

      Too bad they cared little for children in their colonial realm . Its like that the late Queen answered ( her lady in waiting ) to children in Sevastopol ( Crimea , Russia) , but did everything ( through Teresa May and Boris Johnson) to ensure suffering of hundred of thousands children of Donbass ( Eastern Ukraine) and continues till this day by British made artillery and Inlaw , Brimstone mussles . How are the children fared of Diego Garcia archipelago? What about Children of Iraq? Have They ( Britain , US , Nato ) provided safe passage for children of Mosul, before cutting off water , sewer , electricity ?!! What was the reason again that British intelligence provided for invasion?! If History taught us anything , is that of British Monarchy cynical two-faced double dealings . Till this Day . By the way , He ( king George) looks alike like two water droplets with Imperator Nikolai 2 ( last Russian Tzar) . Weren't they cousins ? Did They try to help his Royal Cousin ? Or had they just appropriated Tzars Nikolai's family money in the London Banks?

  • @dawnbowra9349
    @dawnbowra9349 4 роки тому +42

    My grandfather worked for king George V and queen Mary as a grenidier guard. A boy solider. A musician for the royal family. Pop left in 1925 for Australia with a trade in carpentry as a. Ten pound Pom. He had a land grant and lost it during the Great Depression. I have a butter knife from the table of KingGeorge VI when he visited Western Australia in the 50's that my grandmother gave to my mother. How he Aguirred it is a story that remains a mystery. Though we know he was involved in building kings park memorial gazebos after the First World War and a air raid warden in the 2nd WW.

    • @BillKing8888
      @BillKing8888 2 роки тому +7

      Queen Mary is said to have been a kleptomaniac so look at it as just settling the score.

    • @londoncalling151
      @londoncalling151 Рік тому +1

      @@BillKing8888 lol lol lol

    • @bobgilkes3888
      @bobgilkes3888 Рік тому

      Lll

    • @saraswatkin9226
      @saraswatkin9226 Рік тому

      @@BillKing8888 apparently she only collected the Crowns of Europe from fallen heads.

    • @UKAlanR
      @UKAlanR 10 місяців тому

      Today's education - that Australia suffered air raids during WW2! Thanks for that

  • @jamgirl86
    @jamgirl86 2 роки тому +13

    My favorite Monarch. Flawed but endlessly fascinating.

  • @paulinekenefick2215
    @paulinekenefick2215 3 роки тому +13

    Very informative. Great insite into the difficulties faced by Btitish monarchs. He did his best .

  • @ian_b
    @ian_b 3 роки тому +14

    An excellent talk by Professor BuggerBognor.

    • @rory4605
      @rory4605 3 роки тому +2

      George V was actually insulting Bogdanor on his deathbed, despite dying 7 years before he was born.

    • @dariusanderton3760
      @dariusanderton3760 2 роки тому +1

      @@rory4605 a man of great foresight

    • @2msvalkyrie529
      @2msvalkyrie529 Рік тому +1

      He would probably have said.
      " Bogdanoff ?!?.......Tell him to bog
      off ! ! "

  • @CarolynFahm
    @CarolynFahm 7 років тому +39

    Excellent lecture series. Looking forward to the next one.

  • @stevendaniel8126
    @stevendaniel8126 2 роки тому +12

    As a young man, he was incredibly handsome.

    • @GodisMyNo1
      @GodisMyNo1 Рік тому +2

      To me he was always handsome

    • @GodisMyNo1
      @GodisMyNo1 Рік тому +1

      He was handsome as an old man too

    • @mikeanagnostou4399
      @mikeanagnostou4399 11 місяців тому +1

      He bore a striking resemblance to his first cousin Tsar Nicholas II. Victoria truly was “the Grandmother of Europe”

    • @sycwk5874
      @sycwk5874 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@mikeanagnostou4399Actually, they are maternal cousins, their mothers are siblings (Dagmar and Alexandra)

  • @christianestaninger6589
    @christianestaninger6589 3 роки тому +8

    Excellent series. Excellent speaker

  • @SomeSmallFish
    @SomeSmallFish 3 роки тому +19

    He seemed flawed, though I guess we all are, but he's probably my favorite British monarch.

    • @timeandspace_3.142
      @timeandspace_3.142 2 роки тому

      Can you elaborate as to why he's your favourite?

    • @jamgirl86
      @jamgirl86 2 роки тому

      Same. I adore him. Endlessly fascinating.

    • @GodisMyNo1
      @GodisMyNo1 Рік тому

      ​@@jamgirl86and very handsome

  • @bobdaniels7866
    @bobdaniels7866 7 років тому +29

    He was right for England at his time.

  • @cressyxlx4711
    @cressyxlx4711 6 років тому +6

    Thanks for the upload. Very interesting 💜

  • @lauramorarelli4720
    @lauramorarelli4720 9 днів тому

    Really interesting lecture I love the life of British monarchs they are so different

  • @sarahhall738
    @sarahhall738 Рік тому +4

    My great great grandfather was in charge of the royal train during his reign. He was based at Liverpool Street station london

  • @johnmurray8428
    @johnmurray8428 Рік тому +1

    Clear, concise and informative. Thank you.

  • @cryptoniandream1278
    @cryptoniandream1278 3 роки тому +4

    Awesome, Thank you.

  • @RonJohn63
    @RonJohn63 7 років тому +27

    I've watched all three videos so far, and Professor Bogdanor has proclaimed *all three* to be *"the ideal* constitutional monarch". LOL

    • @bigfan2710
      @bigfan2710 7 років тому

      RonJohn63 I think he refers to George V as "an ideal constitutional monarch" but I understand your point.

    • @jema9735
      @jema9735 5 років тому +2

      He was, in that he stayed out of politics and just about all else.

    • @glen7318
      @glen7318 3 роки тому +7

      There isn't a blueprint -different monarchs have done things a bit differently as they are not in teh same historical period. One of the main requirements is to be dutiful which George V was and also George VI and the present queen. And they've all stayed out of politics.

    • @ane-louisestampe7939
      @ane-louisestampe7939 2 роки тому +1

      Apparently he doesn't know Margrethe II ;-)

    • @karinlawrence6500
      @karinlawrence6500 Рік тому +2

      @@glen7318 All stayed out of politics... except for that little Australian incident in 1975 when the democratically elected Labor Prime Minister was - with the signature of Queen Elizabeth 2 - dismissed from Parliament... and a conservative party prime minister installed in his place.

  • @fdebate2663
    @fdebate2663 5 років тому +2

    I Like Your Lectures. And. Enjoyed Your Lecture On BBC News On Smaller Political Parties.

  • @andreishade2964
    @andreishade2964 Рік тому +3

    He looks astonishingly like Tzar Impereror Nikolai II ( the last of Romanov )

    • @annied4084
      @annied4084 Рік тому +3

      Both look alike as their mothers were sisters. Both took more out of their mothers features rather than their fathers.

  • @jeffreystreeter5381
    @jeffreystreeter5381 2 роки тому

    Fabulous lecture.

  • @simplelifelost
    @simplelifelost 2 роки тому +5

    Prof. Bogdanor is much more generous towards George V’s stamp collection than David Starkey.

    • @williamhicken1206
      @williamhicken1206 Рік тому +6

      Starkey is not generous to anyone or anything.

    • @2msvalkyrie529
      @2msvalkyrie529 Рік тому +3

      No doubt George "s collection was more impressive than little David's ?

    • @Patrick3183
      @Patrick3183 Рік тому

      To Starkey, the stamp collection epitomizes the banal about George V

  • @JRobbySh
    @JRobbySh 4 роки тому +9

    I wonder what his opinion is of the recent mess. Surely he seems now to accept Elizabeth’s passivity as helpful to the country. I wonder when history is written we will discover she has had any role at all since the ‘60s.

    • @GodisMyNo1
      @GodisMyNo1 Рік тому +2

      Her role was to bring stability to her people and keep the UK united. Its called united kingdom for a reason

  • @rabidrabbitshuggers
    @rabidrabbitshuggers 2 роки тому +3

    His simplicity kind of reminds me of Ulysses S. Grant.

  • @lenwilkinson672
    @lenwilkinson672 Рік тому +1

    Enjoyed the talk. On King George. V. Very revealing and sympathetic feeling for the King.

  • @rory4605
    @rory4605 3 роки тому +13

    "Nowadays we don't know what political views the private secretaries to the monarch hold"
    Sir Edward Young is the current one. He's previously been an advisor to Michael Portillo and William Hague, hmm, I guess we'll never know!

    • @EdMcF1
      @EdMcF1 2 роки тому +1

      Yep, he's a Lefty!

    • @TheBlueTheMan
      @TheBlueTheMan Рік тому

      There’s a fair bit of nuance behind these appointments, it’s not just he worked with tories he’s a Tory.
      One of Gordon Brown’s advisers is now an exec of Saatchi & Saatchi, for which most advertising campaigns by the tories are made by Saatchi & Saatchi

  • @BillKing8888
    @BillKing8888 2 роки тому +2

    It sounds less like government by parliament than by dinner party.

  • @Juizysphelim
    @Juizysphelim Рік тому

    Listening to his Christmas message ( and thinking also of Churchill’s numerous speeches) where did the current speech affectations and accents of the upper classes come from?

  • @carlousmagus5387
    @carlousmagus5387 2 роки тому +8

    The Sovereign should be able to Veto Legislation, and Palarment able to override it with a two thirds majority.

    • @mortalclown3812
      @mortalclown3812 Рік тому

      To grant one in an unelected position power could be a most regrettable turn of events...and one not easily corrected. Look how long it's taken to get rid of a monarchy. Oops.

    • @2msvalkyrie529
      @2msvalkyrie529 Рік тому

      Given the absolute shower we have at the moment - both main
      parties ! - might be best if just dismissed the lot of them and did it himself. ? Couldn't be much worse.!

    • @Patrick3183
      @Patrick3183 Рік тому

      @@mortalclown3812 wrong

  • @squareinsquare2078
    @squareinsquare2078 2 роки тому +1

    I came here looking for a fight between King George and Professor Vernon Bogdanor.

  • @alancassell566
    @alancassell566 Рік тому

    Jimmy thomas.. Quality

  • @rory4605
    @rory4605 3 роки тому +3

    38:51 I'm pretty sure no one's ever laughed that hard at a Vernon Bogdanor joke.

    • @douglasweber2401
      @douglasweber2401 Рік тому

      I love his dry sense of humor and do laugh at his quips.

  • @catgladwell5684
    @catgladwell5684 9 місяців тому

    I have just been looking at images of York cottage Sandringham. It doesn't look like a glum little villa to me. The furnishings are of the period (in the photographs) but anyone who considers it a small house should have a look at what ordinary people live in in the UK. I wonder what they would think of a terraced house or a typical semi.

  • @alancassell566
    @alancassell566 Рік тому +1

    David windsor... The reason we got elizabeth york 1926 - 2022

    • @TyrSkyFatherOfTheGods
      @TyrSkyFatherOfTheGods 2 місяці тому

      We would have gotten her anyway, since she was his successor (Edward VIII was childless).

  • @-TimZambra
    @-TimZambra 6 років тому +7

    How many died in that meaningless war?

  • @TreforTreforgan
    @TreforTreforgan Рік тому

    ‘My, King George, what big eyes you have!’
    ‘All the better to not see you with’

    • @lynndenault4212
      @lynndenault4212 Рік тому

      Like Princess Beatrice

    • @GodisMyNo1
      @GodisMyNo1 Рік тому

      His eyes werent as big in his youth. It was probably from his illness

    • @zzzbbbooo
      @zzzbbbooo 11 місяців тому +1

      @@GodisMyNo1 He had the prominent Hanoverian eyes that many of the descendents of Queen Victoria inherited.

    • @GodisMyNo1
      @GodisMyNo1 4 місяці тому

      ​@@zzzbbbooohis eyes were gorgeous, nothing wrong with them

  • @williamneumyer7147
    @williamneumyer7147 6 років тому +9

    Oh, it was "the common people" who signed Charles I's death warrant? Really, Mr. Lansbury?

    • @Patrick3183
      @Patrick3183 Рік тому

      Maybe he meant the House of Commons?

  • @tegneblok
    @tegneblok 3 роки тому +2

    which author did he read ? 00:01:25

  • @alancassell566
    @alancassell566 Рік тому +1

    Queen Mary... The women who saved the monarchy 1910-2022...

    • @GodisMyNo1
      @GodisMyNo1 Місяць тому

      Both George and Mary saved the monarchy

  • @psychosneighbor1509
    @psychosneighbor1509 2 роки тому +3

    Is it just me or is George V actually Tzar Nicholas? They're twins...

  • @dianesicgala4310
    @dianesicgala4310 3 роки тому +3

    I think a wonderful king.

  • @greghigdon3005
    @greghigdon3005 2 роки тому +1

    We

  • @tatuloa
    @tatuloa 2 роки тому +2

    The irony was , the rulers of the first global Emperial power understood the power of shared power , while lesser societies produced commoners who lusted for absolute domination ..

    • @MN8
      @MN8 2 роки тому

      commoners are noble and regal

  • @Adrian-yd8fk
    @Adrian-yd8fk Рік тому

    Spoiler alert, this a very interesting lecture but it King George v Prof Vernon Bogdanor is NOT a fight

  • @Humanophage
    @Humanophage Рік тому

    I'm surprised nothing was said about his relationship with his murdered family in Russia.

    • @GodisMyNo1
      @GodisMyNo1 4 місяці тому

      Im glad nothing was said. This isnt about the overrated Nicholas, but for George

  • @Larkinchance
    @Larkinchance 5 років тому +8

    What a tedious Christmas message.
    So I guess you could say that George V was not a party animal...

    • @suzanking5625
      @suzanking5625 5 років тому +2

      George V read at a Grade 3 level. He was semi literate. Diplomatic correspondence shows everyone knew. So, I guess you could say that George V was as dumb as a box of rocks and not quite as useful.

    • @johntuffin3262
      @johntuffin3262 4 роки тому +10

      It is not the function of the king or queen to be amusing, or glamorous, or a party animal.

    • @zzzbbbooo
      @zzzbbbooo 4 роки тому +6

      This was recorded in the early days of radio. Apart from the fact that it was the King making the broadcast, all messages and speeches were delivered with much more formality in those days. Why compare today's standards on everything that happened in the past?

    • @Larkinchance
      @Larkinchance 4 роки тому +1

      @@zzzbbbooo George V had a reputation for being tedious.. probably played a part in his son debilitating stutter..

    • @Larkinchance
      @Larkinchance 4 роки тому +1

      @@suzanking5625 A box of cobbles

  • @dontcare7086
    @dontcare7086 2 роки тому +4

    As hard as he tried to hide his German heritage you can clearly hear it when he speaks. It is a weird mix between British English with some words pronounced like a German speaking English.

    • @ds1868
      @ds1868 2 роки тому +5

      Doesn't really matter. English is a Germanic language, the English invaded the island of Britain in the 5th and 6th centuries. The Angles from the northern German Baltic coast set up the kingdom of East Anglia, the Jutes from the Jutland peninsula set up the kingdom of Kent, but the larger invasions of the saxons from Northern Germany set up the other Engljsh Kingdoms most notably Wessex and Mercia. It doesn't matter the Hanoverians were German, they just retook the land they had already taken over 1,200 years before.

    • @Patrick3183
      @Patrick3183 Рік тому

      I don’t hear any German accent

    • @Patrick3183
      @Patrick3183 Рік тому

      @@ds1868 “the English invaded Britain” um what

    • @cjdewingmlis
      @cjdewingmlis 8 місяців тому

      ⁠@@Patrick3183The geographic area known as the British Isles was originally populated by the Celts. The land was invaded by Germanic tribes (Jutes, Angles, and Saxons) from Northern Europe. They became the English.

  • @chel3SEY
    @chel3SEY Рік тому

    I'm baffled why the King's political views matter at all. They should be totally irrelevant. The sovereign isn't a politician. A constitutional monarch should keep his own political views to himself at all times. The more we know about the sovereign's views, the worse he is as a sovereign.

  • @user-le3jw8rs6b
    @user-le3jw8rs6b 5 років тому +6

    عندي عملة الملك جورج الخامس ذهبية وزن خمسة باوند عام 1911 وزن خمسة باوند مع اختام

  • @mohamedbinelias3246
    @mohamedbinelias3246 Рік тому

    World app win full Pakistan

  • @nilecrocodileRobyn
    @nilecrocodileRobyn 2 роки тому +5

    Bit of a bore. Liked shooting lots of animals.