Is The Sony FX30 My Dream Camera? - Sony FX3 vs FX30 Review
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- Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
- Today I talk about my experience with the Sony FX30 and why you should consider the Sony FX30 for 2023. This camera really impressed me and I am so pumped about using it this year. What do you guys think about Sonys new cinema lineup?
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CHAPTERS
0:00 - Intro
0:37 - Budget
1:10 - Full Frame vs APS-C
1:35 - S-log 3
3:27 - User Luts
4:05 - Ergonomics
5:08 - Recording Assist
5:45 - Battery Life
6:45 - Low Light
7:42 - Final Thoughts
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I’ve been shooting a lot of podcasts lately with multicam and I have 3 FX30s. I even picked up another one today for me to use personally to not have to touch my rigs. That’s how much I love this thing that I now have 4 of them.
you're rich rich
Money bags! Where’s the podcast?
Can you send one my way 😂?
I command you to give me one
That’s it I’m buying one.
The exact video I was looking for, thinking on getting the FX30 to shoot weddings! Thank you!
Really nice and thorough breakdown, looks great!
Excellent lighting and clear couple footage.nice location and love the slow motion
Awesome work!
Once you nail down shooting with SLOG3, it’s nearly impossible to go back to S-Cinetone! The dynamic range is just on another level.
Great review, man!
I am forever changed. Can’t go back!!! Thanks man!
Isaac Sutle and Wayward North i'm a big fan of your work, congratulations from Brazil
Log is best, full stop! Staying on the base log is not mandatory.
I'm a subscriber for years now and what I can see is this: any camera in your hand will be an amazing camera. Congrats!
Exactly, all the med to high hybrids cameras are good and give fantastic results. If i went Sony I would shoot FX3. Not a cropped sensor shooter.
I’ve thought about adding the FX30 to my kit. Looking forward to sitting down and watching this 😎
Hi there! Just found your channel and I’m hooked. I would love if you showed up how you set up the fx30 when you rent it again. I just bought mine but I’m not sure where to start. Also, I have your LUTs in my cart, you have the colors I’ve been searching for a realllllly long time. Great stuff! Great work! Keep going :)
One thing that gets overlooked with the FX30. It's an excellent camera to grow as a film maker. Yes, Full Frame has us spoiled. It's nice to work on things
It's crazy how often I film with my FX30 instead of my FX3 or A7SIII. Such a great cam and APSC has it's advantages for sure. Great review!
um, why? Unless you lack FF lenses?
What advantage do you find about the fx30 vs the fx3? The more compact lenses?
@@dangitalvin3 (In broad response to OP stating APSC has advantages) Cheaper. Faster processing + smaller files. For some, the magnification of a full-frame lens used on a crop sensor body can be beneficial (for example, for wildlife). But yes there are advantages to full frame, like a better signal to noise ratio if you are shooting low light.
One other thing, it's a misconception that Bokeh is better on full frames. The reason we often see Bokeh differences between crop sensor and full frame shots is because with ASPC cameras, we sometimes have to stand further back to capture the image. With a full frame, odds are you may get closer to the subject since your shot is wider. That movement towards the subject is what causes the enhanced Bokeh, not the sensor itself. So this can be mitigated if you are aware of this fact while shooting with a crop sensor.
I highly recommend HLG (not HLG3 which is good but nasty noise reduction). It's a fraction less dynamic range than SLog3 but lots of latitude, and fool-proof. I use it on my a7SIII. Give it a shot and test it at home. Turn REC2020/gamma assist on.
that footage in the intro is incredible
Hey Mate, just found your channel through this video, awesome content, I've subscribed, as much as you love Slog-3 nowadays can you please make a tutorial how you color correct and color grade S-Cinetone for everyone who is still rocking this profile? Thanks for your help! :)
Keep up the good work!
Thanks so much! I’ll try my best!
I absolutely love my FX30 - would love more content with it
What lens are you using?
Hey Jaired love the look youre getting with SLOG3 did you create a custom lut? Ive been struggling with colors when it comes to skin tones and slog 3.
Hey friend! Thanks so much friend. I just used one of my luts in this one. I believe it was Unveiled Subtle.
Can you charge via USB-C on the go?
Are you in CT or New England? Saw the Old Town caneo, and noticed all of the rocks and ruins.
Beautiful footage my guy, and excellent review.
Hi Jaired. Im newie with Sony A7S3 and SLog3. I bought your LUTs. But I'm struggling with color grading. Do you plan video about color grading SLOG3 in FCPX? Thanks
The battery life surprised me when I shot my first wedding with it 😂
I’m happy I brought 4 extra ones
Haha seriously! I was glad I had all Sony cams with the same battery.
Thoughts on this as I have the FX3, FX30, and R5C. Sony kills canon on battery life so I felt the battery life was great. FX3 and FX30 are the only two cameras I plan to use on any weddings I shoot moving forward.
I actually turn off log shooting mode but use slog 3 still. The fact that you have to have Sonys software really slowed down my workflow. I would have to adjust something in their software then bring it back to resolve.
Overall great review I feel like I need to do a review now lol.
What do you mean "using Sonys software and then bring it back to Resolve"? Can't you just use CST or ACES?
What lens were you using at 6:05 if you can recall.
This wedding looks awesome!
Thanks so much!
Great review! How do you like the Smallrig cage?
Love the cage! The HDMI holder on the left side was a really nice touch!
I found something even better than Slog 3! You can create a custom LUT or buy a nice one, save it as Custom Profile 1 - 4 and you will have access to it when not in Slog 3. Best of both worlds. Really awesome
how did you solve the grain problem with the 120 fps slomo mode?
I got the FX30 to be my workhorse tripod ceremony camera for hot summer weddings since it has a fan. Planning to use it for a really long time. Sadly that’s it’s only purpose for me though haha
Haha well here’s to hoping that bad boy gets some use for future projects!
I use my fx30 last week on a wedding and yep the battery issue is bad ! Probably got a vmount kit for it !
Great imagery. Thank you for sharing your work and views.
APS-C cameras get a lot of hate. I came across someone in an FX30 Facebook group who criticized the FX30 because it has an APS-C sensor. When I asked him what his reasons were, he simply said "crop sensors are crop sensors". I was going to ask him why he was posting in a group that was for FX30 users if he was so critical of it. But, I realized he was probably just trolling the group looking to trigger its users.
I've owned the FX30 since it was released. Like any new camera I get, the first thing I do is test the features I bought it for. So, I tested the dual ISO's of 800 and 2500 to verify that they were similar in noise levels as advertised. And, of course, the test was successful. I've seen pro-colorists grade FX30 footage who then went on to praise the quality. As you said, no camera is perfect. But, for the price point, the FX30 definitely proves its worth.
Absolutely agree. Its a shame that some people find joy through stirring up hate when we can all respectfully agree to disagree and move on. Crop sensors matter just as much as full-frame and it's up to the filmmaker to choose which tool will work best within their workflow. Some people can be so closed minded and feel their opinion is the only right one when in reality, its all subjective and there are so many different variables for the individual.
LOVE the FX30 and the price point. It's such a beautiful camera that challenges other manufacturers to create something better. Its all good things in my opinion. Thanks for your comment! Appreciate you!
Very nice review... almost all reviews about the FX30 talk about low lowlight capabilities, I currently use Sony a7 III and Sony a6600... my question is, is it better or better or weaker in lowlight than the 2 devices I already have? And what would be the best zomm lens for her? Thank you
a7iii is better in low light
Nice one, I had the FX3 and sold it for more than I bought it in the Pandemic. Got the A7IV which I like even better believe it or not except for the over heating. I shoot 90% 60p 4k which is part of the "problem". I was looking at maybe getting the FX30 bc of the Fans but just cannot justify it over my Full frame A7IV which I absolutely love not to mention it is also a 32 mp photography camera as well. But the Fx30 looks quite good if you are maybe coming from APSC line of Sony. I am personally hoping the FX3II has some built in ND's some how and that might be my next purchase.. Your images look great. The other things about the FX30 is the second ISO range which is rather low. Sometimes I find the 3200 on the A7IV not enough so 2500 on the FX30 would even be harder to deal with. The 12800 on the FX3 was also almost over kill but good to have in low light situations for sure...
Howdy! Looking for a great travel and personal video cam! This seems good! Do some indoor sports video and photo - is the ISO good enough for indoor sports? How about sports photo?
Hey! If you do both photo and video I’d recommend a hybrid like the Sony A7IV or if you aren’t tied to a specific brand the Canon R6 mark ii or even R8 could be good choices to consider as well!
@@WaywardNorth thanks! The a7iv overheated several times despite changing to high heat so I returned (body and lenses felt bulky for travel)! Was thinking fx30, r7, or upcoming a6700
Is it good for travel vdos? What about the zve1?
Sony A7iv vs. FX 3 vs. FX 30, which one should | buy for outdoor UA-cam videos and also cinematic shots in some time at night?
When outdoors do you use an nd filter or do you just crank your shutter?
I try to use my Mist ND but it doesn’t fit my lens currently so the last few weddings I’ve been cranking shutter
Jaired I know with CLog3 if you stay at the base ISO, in dark situations you have cleaner shadows when recovering them in post, so flipping through non base ISOs will introduce noise.
Makes sense! I always say it’s better to expose for your highlights in general. Easier to add light in post, a lot harder to remove it without losing detail 💪
It is hardly noticeable on my Canon R3 shifting of base ISO.
I was close to making the purchase of the fx30, but love the experience of my c100 mkii for filming. I found a used canon c200 for the price of an fx30, and thought theyd be easier to match color for an A and B cam.
Hey the C100ii will forever hold a piece of my heart. Love those cameras forever ❤️
I'm thinking of selling my red Komodo and getting this. I don't use my RED for weddings and as of now, that's what I do the most of.
I have added a fx30 cam as my b cam to my SIII i am pretty impressed. For Daylight and well lit scenes its a dream. I had minor issues with some rec start and stop not respondinf directly bit idk if it was my card or the cam. My combo is the sigma 16-28 f2.8 (FF) and a sigma 50 mm 1.4 for interviews. The FX30 is 95% of the SIII image quality but 130% better in its features. Custom Luts is huge for me
Great combo! I love this cam. I agree it’s perfect in daylight and well lit moments but good to have a full frame option like the A7Siii for low light functionality. Still want to do some tests with S-Cinetone and pushing ISO to see what I can get away with
Any camera, even a phone camera can be a dream in daylight and well lighted scenes. So yes the fx30 is trash. Sensor size > any fx30 features.
@@papsny you have no glue. I use them both in Professional settings and they are great.
@@papsny I disagree, respectfully.
Having an EOSR and looking to pair a new camera with this one, would it be wiser to buy this camera or the R6 Mark II for wedding video? Side note, my wife as a photographer also uses EOSR (in which she could use the R6 MKII when I am not using it) and we both have some Canon lenses.
That’s tough because it seems you have some stable stock in Canon currently and have multiple end uses out of those cameras.
If you are looking for a similar option in regards to price and quality. The new Canon R8 is really promising and has some lovely video specs as well as photo too!
If it were me, I’d probably stay with Canon unless you have the budget and means to completely switch and then you are looking at a big expense.
The canon R8 is $1500 which for the quality is a great price point
The newer cameras are a massive jump from the EOS r. Canon or Sony will be a step up. The new Canon cameras have NOT got the same colour science as the EOS r
Super!
I just picked up a FX30 and have my first wedding coming up! I’m going to use it as my B cam to capture the ceremony. What lens do you recommend for it?
My main cam is an a7iv with a tamron 28-75.
Thanks!
I really enjoyed using my 24-70 with the FX30. With the crop it was more like a 35-105 which was perfect to run and gun the whole day with!
@@WaywardNorth appreciate the response! Do you feel that lens would be able to capture a ceremony?
i was thinking to buy this camera but now after fuji x-s20 release I rly think about to buy fuji as a second camera for my sony a7IV
That record back light is nifty
It is handy indeed
Since S-Log has a 800 base ISO; how's does the noise compare to S-Cinetone (at 100 ISO)?
Great question! I’ll have to do more tests to really decipher but with 800-2500 you are getting the cleanest possible image without any noise introduction.
Wow amazing
Thanks friend!
It will hopefully be my next A cam 🤞🏼
🙏🏻 me too!!
Awesome review!
2 questions
Did you pair it with a B cam like the a74 on the day? And how was the matching of the footage
And did you use a Feelworld monitor on 4K 60p? Just curious if the monitor can handle that format. I have the Lut 5 and don’t know if it will work 🤷🏽♂️
The battery life becomes more an issue when feeding HDMI out of the Sony Alpha cameras and Fx/Fs series - battery life drops about 10-30% depending on camera. Without a hdmi feed the battery lasts far longer.
Can I ask you what mic you use on the video and how much does it cost? Because the sound is great on this.
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Thanks for responding! I appreciate it! @@WaywardNorth
Hi did you shoot the wedding in 4K?
I did!
Great camera! Looking to get b-cam 🤩
Whats with the dreamy look? Lens filter or LUTs?
Thanks😊
Thanks man! It’s a little bit of both :) I’m using the Black Pro Mist 1/4 Filter combined with my lut pack.
Do you use ND filter? If so are you stepping up?
Hey friend, I use the PM Mist Combo Filter for this one. Great filter!
what hurts is the lack of video focused apsc lenses for sony. also how it is a 6k sensor with worse rolling shutter so they could use the same one on the a6700 which makes it a better deal than the fx30 since it has the exact same video specs but also a mechanical shutter for photos.
no fan.
For filming, I'd prefer super 35MM over full frame. Sony makes the best cameras for low light shooting.
Great video, but the couple ... OMG they're amazing. Such beautiful couple
Right?! These two were are some beautiful people both inside and out!
Thanks for the review! I would like to change from the S5 and I'm torn between S5II and FX30... but the IBIS on theFX30 looks pretty bad, to be honest.
Yes. The stabilization performance leaves much to be desired.👎
I still get annoyingly amounts of grain in shadows with my FX30 even if I film inside during the day. I use sigma 18-50mm 2.8 and sony 11mm 1.8
i already try everything. Can you share some settings You use? Because I thinking right now to switch to sony a7IV because of the full frame sensor.
What ISO are you using throughout the day? Do you have your metering set up to see when you are 1 to 2 stops over exposed? Using your base ISO of 800 or 3200 will give you the cleanest image, but you will also want to make sure you are 1 to 1.5 stops over. This is what I have found to be the sweet spot for me.
I over exposed 1 to 2 stops in s-log 3 i use iso 800 the only thing seems to work is the noise reduction option in final cut. I just keep practicing. Thanks a lot for help! @@WaywardNorth
What lens are you using?
The Sigma 24-70
@@WaywardNorth thanks a lot
Why you choose S-Log3? Why not S-Log2? 🙏🏻
In the land of cameras, sensor size is king
There are so many great movies shot in s35 I'm not to sure that applies to video cameras or cameras designed for video.
What is the highest usable ISO in SLOG3 of the FX30 ?
I would say 4000 is max for Slog3.
how about in no picture profile?
can u tell me the camera monitor u r using sir ?
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Would anyone happen to know if the FX 30 can record 4K30, 60 with a monitor attached for maintaining 10 bit
Reason why I ask is because I have a Nikon Z 6 ii and it does not put out 4K 30,10 bit.
@@pix_by_jay I recorded in 4K 422 10 Bit with a FeelWorld F6 Monitor attached all day.
@@WaywardNorth thank you. That will definitely help my decision on purchasing the FX 3. I will also look at that monitor. Have a good one.
Your slog3 footage looks amazing. Did you use a lut?
Thanks so much! I used Gamuts Rec 709 Lut & then used my lut pack to stylize/finalize the look 🙏🏻
i bought the fx3 as my a-cam and use now the fx30 as my b-cam BECAUSE the fx30 bad low light performance, battery life and the crop mode :(
If I had the budget for the FX3 I’d get it as well!
After using fx30 for 3 months came to conclusion Less Battery Issue is due to cooling fan
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The low light is not a problem at all. Just watch your exposure and pick a cine lens at 1.05. Arri Alexa 35 is a Super 35 and no problem with low light. This debate between FF and Super 35 is overrated.
Can you please elaborate? I’ve spent past pew weeks trying to figure out this same question.
@@Aaditya1ad Sony produced a cinema camera. Use cine lenses then from Zeiss Sigma even 7artisans with T0.5 to T1.5. There's no problem with low light if you know as well how to expose. Arri 35 is also a Super 35 sensor and we never had problems with noise. Even if you have FF cameras and you don't know how to expose you will get noise.
yah it really sucks up battery really fast
a7c or fx30 70% video 30% photo?
FX30 for the ergonomics and overall design. The A7C is too small for me. Great cam just not my first choice
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i used tyo be like you shooting s cinetone. SLOG 3 is WAYYYY better. In extreme low light then i use s cinetone,
I have seen the light and it is good! haha I still love S-Cinetone for projects that need a quick turn but for more detailed works, S-Log adds so much for production value in my opinion.
One slot for memory card on a wedding…I don’t know…And also overheating problem. Here in Spain, in summer, is imposible to short with Sony cameras.
That doesn't apply to the FX30. It has two card slots. It is also highly unlikely to overheat because it has a fan. Shoot, the A7Siii doesn't have a fan and it doesn't overheat either. The lack of them overheating is a big reason why I own them and other Sony cameras.
I disagree. I really like the sharpness of the fx30 vs fx3 in optimal conditions. It’s when you are in non optimal conditions that the fx3 really shines
Can't you hook up an external battery?
Yeah you can run a v mount system to help with better battery life
@@WaywardNorth And some of the amount battery's are small and last 7-8 hours. That would be good to include.
Overall inage quality...not. the image quality us literaly the same. The image quality is not been affected by a bigger sensor in this case. Another advamtage, the apsc lenses are cheaper 🤤
Yeah, I got a lot of footage......
Overheating with 4k@30 all the time,
So what your saying is don’t have high expectations 😂😂
Treat Yo Self!!!
You already know!
Too loud background music
Thanks for the feedback!
No Sony camera is a dream camera. Leica,Hasselblad,and Red
It’s all subjective my friend. Depends on the user, needs, goals, realistic budget, etc.
3 words for you 😂
Treat yo self
Kinda tired of slow mo footage of wedding. It gotta be the most boring kinda of video. It's repetitive. I want to see some real short movies being made!
Sorry to hear this one didn’t connect with you friend! I agree slow mo is totally over-used. My thought behind using it here was to highlight more of quality and color with the FX30. Thanks for your feedback! 🙏🏻
almost the same price with S5iix no brainer
Crazy good value for the price!