In DEFENCE Of Devin Attard?!

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  • Опубліковано 27 чер 2021
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  • @devinattard
    @devinattard 2 роки тому +251

    I appreciate you taking the time to make this, Craig! Yes I do not mix and record my own audio.. I just play the drums lol. I will be making some big changes in my sound, but I really appreciate the kind words and letting everyone know what’s up! Much love dude.

    • @winterkraul3716
      @winterkraul3716 2 роки тому +10

      much respect dude, your playing is sick

    • @ClihtYeastwood
      @ClihtYeastwood 2 роки тому +14

      What I don’t appreciate is seeing your ‘climax face’ peering into the camera everytime time you… ‘play’ the drums.
      Cheers for that 😱

    • @hannesdrumss
      @hannesdrumss 2 роки тому +4

      Amazing, I‘m really looking forward to what you do next, I believe you have big potential and a bright future.

    • @dylancofini9127
      @dylancofini9127 2 роки тому +2

      Bro no matter what any of these comments say just remember YOU are above all of that and YOU are on top of your game right now! On tour living your dream and your band is killing it! Use samples and quantize or do whatever the fuck you want cuz your doing it right and it’s obviously working out for you man!

    • @MrE1981
      @MrE1981 2 роки тому +1

      Yea, what is up with the constant O-face? Did a teenage girl tell you it was cool?

  • @hannesdrumss
    @hannesdrumss 2 роки тому +60

    5:51 „the human eye can“t hear“ truly eye-opening Craig, thank you for bringing light to the dark.

    • @user-dj4bu8bq5r
      @user-dj4bu8bq5r 2 роки тому +8

      im reading this with my ears and this comment tastes funny

    • @dannboioq
      @dannboioq 2 роки тому +1

      Imagine only quoting half the statement for this shit joke.

    • @user-dj4bu8bq5r
      @user-dj4bu8bq5r 2 роки тому +2

      @@dannboioq have you heard of something called humor

    • @dannboioq
      @dannboioq 2 роки тому +2

      @@user-dj4bu8bq5r yeah 1000% if you see any point it out

    • @Virvum_Juggernaut
      @Virvum_Juggernaut 2 роки тому +2

      @@dannboioq Fight all of Craig’s battles for him do ya? Or have you just got the hots?

  • @i.r.drummer
    @i.r.drummer 2 роки тому +33

    He got dragged cuz he tried to call everyone out by saying it’s real AND telling people to ask his engineer if there’s anything on it.

  • @maxjjk
    @maxjjk 2 роки тому +24

    One thing I appreciate about your videos in general is that you seem to care about the audience understanding what's real and what isn't. You don't drag drummers for their playing or use of samples, you just point out when a video doesn't match what we're hearing in the speakers.

  • @iMatty_2
    @iMatty_2 2 роки тому +6

    Thank you for finally making a video SPECIFICALLY about him. It's so obviously sampled and edited and I'm tired of people acting like its all him. Again, it doesn't mean he deserves to be ripped to shreds and he IS an amazing player, but it's so clearly fake in videos.

  • @PeteBarberDrums
    @PeteBarberDrums 2 роки тому +52

    The guys clearly a monster player, no question about it! But I reckon it’s more the culture of producing perfectly quantised/sample replaced content. I personally don’t like it and how companies push the shit outta these guys. I just think it sets unrealistic standards for everyone who doesn’t produce that kind of content.

    • @Spermwhales93
      @Spermwhales93 2 роки тому +5

      ^ This.
      Don't hate the player, hate the game.

    • @nathandrums0
      @nathandrums0 2 роки тому +8

      @@Spermwhales93 So I’ll say this. I saw the guy live. Specifically, I’ve watched his playthrough videos of his band’s stuff and it comes nowhere close to his live ability. He’s sloppy live, extremely so. Before I saw his band I was excited because I thought he was a monster drummer who could play unbelievably clean and I was wrong.
      I didn’t join the bandwagon of haters because it’s fun, I joined it because devin is genuinely a sloppy player who makes himself out to be perfect on the internet. Not to mention, he’s kinda an ass about it too. If you call him out or ask, he gets defensive which is a key signal that he’s fake.

    • @Spermwhales93
      @Spermwhales93 2 роки тому

      NathanDrums I think that considering Craig was in The HAARP Machine once upon a time, he has the ultimate authority on whether somebody is or isn't able to play the music that they've written in a live environment :P.

    • @camdendebruin6667
      @camdendebruin6667 2 роки тому

      and to be honest, they even used some pretty shit samples. If you are gonna go all the way and use almost entirely samples, why not layer some, much less some decent ones? I can make better samples than that in my basement, and its not hard to make natural drums sound better than that (minus the robotic consistency ofc).

    • @nathandrums0
      @nathandrums0 2 роки тому +8

      @@Spermwhales93 I’m not saying devin isn’t a good drummer, he’s in part capable of the speed. Craig is not the ultimate authority and I think even he’d think you’re a bit of a chuff for thinking he is. I love Craig, don’t get me wrong, I don’t think devin deserves to be the most hated drummer, but even in this video alone, Craig still calls him out for sample replacement and quantizing.
      Devin denies even editing his videos, besides using samples (it’s quantized, it’s very easy to tell). I’m also fairly positive Craig has never seen devin live. Take it from someone who saw him not once, but twice. He wasn’t capable of playing hollow front songs the way he does on the record or in his playthrough videos. Physically seeing him be unable to play that stuff but watching him do it on UA-cam at an inhuman level of cleanliness shows he’s posting fraudulent content. He gets defensive as fuck about it too. Want a guys who’s the real deal and openly shows people the raw stems of their playing? Chris turner. That’s a guy who’s capable of playing and doesn’t need to edit his stuff.

  • @cadelewis2663
    @cadelewis2663 2 роки тому +7

    I'm from the same area devin is from (metro detroit) and have seen him play live a few times. He's perfectly capable of playing his material live. I agree the production sounds very fake, but he is genuine

  • @FakeJesseJuarez
    @FakeJesseJuarez 2 роки тому +8

    My favorite replacement thing is when we caught Raja Mesissner ripping audio from Josh Steffens drum covers and using them as her own. She somehow got endorsements after that. She still fakes a lot of her stuff.

    • @devinhudson4905
      @devinhudson4905 2 роки тому

      That's crazy, I missed that. What video of hers?

    • @FakeJesseJuarez
      @FakeJesseJuarez 2 роки тому +6

      @@devinhudson4905 It was one of her Slipknot videos. She then edited the caption and gave him credit for the audio after we called her out. I think she deleted it now. She has mics on her kit but doesn’t use them and then has the EAD10 but turns the drum audio so low you can’t hear her.

    • @Virvum_Juggernaut
      @Virvum_Juggernaut 2 роки тому

      @@FakeJesseJuarez No shit? What an embarrassing try-hard fucken loser plagiarist! They should rip the endorsements from her.

  • @wilko2912
    @wilko2912 2 роки тому +2

    Swapping hands mid blast and the snare sounds EXACTLY the same! What a tight bastard

  • @munton5150
    @munton5150 2 роки тому +9

    I like your channel. Awesome entertainment for drummers. Remember the ghost notes on "Learning to Live" by Dream Theater? Mike Portnoy hated them. And he hated the main snare trigger. After that album, it was pretty much 100% real deal snare- no samples. Made me think of that.

    • @toddegoldberg
      @toddegoldberg 2 роки тому +2

      They remixed a few songs from images for their greatest hit album (real drum sounds). I wish they did the whole album.

    • @munton5150
      @munton5150 2 роки тому +1

      @@toddegoldberg Yes the Caveman! I heard that.

  • @despisedotboi
    @despisedotboi 2 роки тому +33

    Guy can play really good, no doubt about it. But the thing is(at least for me) other young people, even younger than him, are seen this and they are thinking it's realistic to play like this when it's not. And having those imposible standards can be pretty demotovating for someone starting on playing drums

    • @balintcsoma4321
      @balintcsoma4321 2 роки тому +3

      True words here

    • @Virvum_Juggernaut
      @Virvum_Juggernaut 2 роки тому +1

      Come on man! Everyone who heard even one stroke on a kit in the same room knows that drums don’t sound like that. Rather over-dramatic to claim it sets unrealistic expectations/standards and demotivation in young people ffs.

    • @Virvum_Juggernaut
      @Virvum_Juggernaut 2 роки тому +1

      @@balintcsoma4321 Fine example of a dramatic overstatement you mean.

    • @balintcsoma4321
      @balintcsoma4321 2 роки тому

      @@Virvum_Juggernaut sry sir

    • @despisedotboi
      @despisedotboi 2 роки тому

      It was just my point of view, cause I've seen it. Poeple on the comments section think drums can sound like that, and bet it is 100% real. But if you think is over reacted it's ok man, just don't get so mad, it's all just a chill debate

  • @mopedman1
    @mopedman1 2 роки тому +19

    All I have is a fold up Roland (I live in a flat) and that is kit number 4, 7 and 12.

  • @jobelewis6416
    @jobelewis6416 2 роки тому +1

    Should have dropped it into the DAW and seen how closely it sits on the grid!👀

  • @DustyGlandon
    @DustyGlandon 2 роки тому +2

    "I mean, I wouldn't have fucking cared. Alpha."

  • @jonahsimon5039
    @jonahsimon5039 2 роки тому +5

    Craigy please educate us on Matt McGuire, especially his old stuff, I cannot decide if it’s natty or not

    • @TommyWashow
      @TommyWashow 2 роки тому

      hes in the chainsmokers right? why wouldnt they be samples lol

  • @LTT.Official
    @LTT.Official 2 роки тому +10

    No doubting he is good, it's just the over processed shit I can't handle.

  • @psiklops71
    @psiklops71 2 роки тому +1

    i just watched your 2018 video UK Drum Show great drumming

  • @LucasBruckschlegel
    @LucasBruckschlegel 2 роки тому

    You should get him on the Pod 😄 Would love to hear that, seriously.

  • @shanemaloney4317
    @shanemaloney4317 2 роки тому +22

    Looks like he’s air drumming over a kit to a programmed drum part

  • @NabilKarsheh
    @NabilKarsheh 2 роки тому +5

    When all drums sound the same…

  • @axisdrummer24
    @axisdrummer24 2 роки тому

    We live in the same city and ive had the pleasure of meeting hiim a few times. ive seen him crush his sets multiple times.

  • @apexminer8932
    @apexminer8932 2 роки тому +1

    14:59 - 15:03. After the laughter wears off, it sounds like '86 era 'Flock of Rotations' Zoviet France.

  • @ClihtYeastwood
    @ClihtYeastwood 2 роки тому +1

    “I don’t like the culture I’ve created”
    Craig you are a fuking riot mate 👍🏻

  • @Wollestar
    @Wollestar 2 роки тому +1

    The disappointment in your face when reviewing the second (newest) video🤣.
    But I like your approach of not trying to shit on him. We can always have a laugh but never shame anyone unless they have been really cocky or heavily shamed others. Sometimes people need a taste of their own medicine

  • @meantime69
    @meantime69 2 роки тому

    Saw the dude not even cough when a butterfly flew in that sound hole...
    RESPECT!!

  • @zachhamilton456
    @zachhamilton456 2 роки тому +1

    it sounds like a fucking helicopter in the second video lol.

  • @danthemanmillan
    @danthemanmillan 2 роки тому +23

    He's literally endorsed by Drumforge lol

  • @alijohn1405
    @alijohn1405 2 роки тому +1

    This is the T pain drumming era we are now living in...

  • @nsimonsen63
    @nsimonsen63 2 роки тому +3

    Dude can obviously play. He’s very obviously focused on putting on “the show” for his followers with the stick tricks, windmilling and samples etc.
    The problem however, is that looking at his hands……there’s no way it should sound the way that it does. Which I think in turn sets a gross precedent for younger players who will think it’s ok to just edit, replace and quantise their drums in lieu of putting hard work into their technique.

  • @rishimehra5231
    @rishimehra5231 2 роки тому +7

    Even a deaf person will be able to understand that it's sampled and quantised, there's just no dynamic in the sound when he's hitting them,

    • @stinthaduthegshatag8134
      @stinthaduthegshatag8134 2 роки тому

      Did you mean blind people? Deaf people can't hear, you know.

    • @tommytrottier6100
      @tommytrottier6100 2 роки тому +1

      @@stinthaduthegshatag8134 I think that was the point

    • @Virvum_Juggernaut
      @Virvum_Juggernaut 2 роки тому

      @@stinthaduthegshatag8134 You’re deaf to point making with humour by exaggerated reference.

  • @25stealthshooter
    @25stealthshooter 2 роки тому

    I follow this dude on the gram and am a fan of his content and take it for what it is really. (Even though his snare sounds like garbage thanks to whatever plugins they’re using)
    But more importantly hollow front is a great band.. and at the end of the day his live performance is all that matters right? 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @bravepart
    @bravepart 2 роки тому +1

    It blows my mind why people would do this especially when they are good players like own the performance imperfections and all

  • @facepalmjesus1608
    @facepalmjesus1608 2 роки тому +1

    i wait for the day that someone quantizes imperfectly his playing

  • @massgrave8x
    @massgrave8x 2 роки тому

    the human eye can't hear more than 125 gallons per hour

  • @Rockinroomsrob
    @Rockinroomsrob 2 роки тому

    Those drums sound shocking

  • @str1897
    @str1897 2 роки тому

    Even though I'm not a fan of Straight From The Past at all, i really appreciate your honesty. Hearing it from a drummer as good as you is really enjoyable
    Also, even tho I don't really like Devin way of playing or drum sound, Hollow Front is an incredible band and he seems like a really cool dude with no bad intentions

    • @leorobinsonnn
      @leorobinsonnn Рік тому +2

      straight from the past 😭😭

    • @str1897
      @str1897 Рік тому

      @@leorobinsonnn damn my bad ahah

  • @bi0nikunik0rn
    @bi0nikunik0rn 2 роки тому

    Bring him onto The Downbeat!

  • @Erix77
    @Erix77 2 роки тому +1

    I think he seems really good, but how does anyone like that sound? Get him on your podcast!

  • @lars_larsinger
    @lars_larsinger 2 роки тому

    The plan to sell T-Shirts worked out, I ordered one of the Nut Bustin Blast Beat Tees some weeks ago \m/

  • @Ledjent
    @Ledjent 2 роки тому +2

    10:14 - that doesn't necessarily sound like a sample by itself, but a very overcompressed snare that has shit tonnes of hi-hat bleed due to not the best mic placement and / or was probably automated a little up in volume imo.

  • @FlipontheFly
    @FlipontheFly 2 роки тому +1

    twitch.tv/reynlord for anyone who is curious ;)

  • @johnkenn1608
    @johnkenn1608 2 роки тому

    Oh good Sheppard, feed my sheep

  • @jdion79
    @jdion79 2 роки тому

    god, i love this channel

  • @drummerdudeguy4657
    @drummerdudeguy4657 2 роки тому

    "HA" ☠☠☠☠☠

  • @FrashGordon
    @FrashGordon 2 роки тому

    Haha, I made the video! Well, my comment did.
    Was actually trying to do exactly what you are doing here, he can definitely fucking play, you can clearly see that, it just sounds soooo bad. Would love to see/hear it in a proper live recording.
    Funny thing is I actually found that video through something else and not from these reactions, haha.

  • @DavidHodgesKU11
    @DavidHodgesKU11 2 роки тому

    10 seconds is all you need too know that shiz is sampled.

  • @9thplaceprizewinner
    @9thplaceprizewinner 2 роки тому

    "You can't bully someone for having a shit drum sound... and being a bit of an idiot about it"
    Wait that's the kind of content I was hoping for when I subscribed to your channel

  • @joefarrar3917
    @joefarrar3917 2 роки тому +1

    I am scared to do anything not natty at this point because i don't want to let you down lol

  • @rsturba
    @rsturba 2 роки тому

    The internet started a the new era of shred wars like the 80’s, eventually people will go the polar opposite and start recording on an iPhone 4 no edits covering white stripes

    • @t3hgir
      @t3hgir Рік тому

      I try to cover Gojira and Meshuggah on my channel with just phone audio, no edits

  • @detafult4617
    @detafult4617 2 роки тому

    ghost notes are not samples, that's how it's sounds when there's so much bleed from the hi hat to the snare mic

  • @Bud162
    @Bud162 2 роки тому +2

    So i do know Devin personally, we havent talked regularly in a while but ive known him for years. He's Absolutely a Monster behind the drums. He's been playing since he was still shitting in diapers. Like Craig said, hes definitely playing everything here, it just might also edited for sound quality.

  • @AdamSoucyDrums
    @AdamSoucyDrums 2 роки тому +1

    So in solo 6, I think his ghost notes are actually being Drum Leveler’d, unrealistically leveled out for consistent dynamics, all the shells seem to be in that one. Yeah they’re coming from the real source but that’s still cheated as fuck

    • @AdamSoucyDrums
      @AdamSoucyDrums 2 роки тому +5

      I’m almost wondering if at this point, he’s actually a VICTIM of these unrealistic expectations we’re railing against. Like despite the hate, he’s still not comfortable releasing a video that isn’t perfected in post because of the unrealistic standards set by all these clowns

    • @FrankTheSmithTV
      @FrankTheSmithTV 2 роки тому

      You would hear way more cymbal bleed if you brought up the ghost notes that loud with Drum Leveler

    • @FrankTheSmithTV
      @FrankTheSmithTV 2 роки тому +1

      Never mind. I listened to it again. Hella hihat bleed.

    • @maxjjk
      @maxjjk 2 роки тому

      @@FrankTheSmithTV I agree, sounds like bleed to me

  • @JPCathartic
    @JPCathartic 2 роки тому

    dude, quantization makes wonders. hear this unquantized and it will sound so fucking horrible. change my mind please. btw, he added a LOT of notes that he didn't actually play, or played at the wrong tempo. its all "fixed" to sound good.

  • @deetschris1
    @deetschris1 2 роки тому

    I’ve been saying this the whole time. Let’s hear the real audio

  • @camdendebruin6667
    @camdendebruin6667 2 роки тому

    9:04 yeah I gotta agree about the bad mixing. Even the drum mixing before sounded kinda ass for being almost-entirely samples ngl, and the mixing with the new drums sounds like someone tried to make it sound as if Devin was hitting pots, pans, and pillow on purpose. Like wtf, that mixing is horrible. Bad gating job, putting tons of reverb on the kick, muddy lows, not enough highs on the toms; whoever mixed this is a beginner. LIKE AT LEAST CHECK IT IN THE CAR.

  • @blake3485
    @blake3485 2 роки тому

    If you look at his Instagram the latest videos sound real. At least to me I’m not an expert tho

  • @DavidBriganti421
    @DavidBriganti421 2 роки тому +3

    These unrealistic and impossible standards falsely set by the “Instagram” drummers is the necessary evil to bring out a few absolutely bonkers young drummers who will learn to play like this, Natty. There I said it.

    • @Virvum_Juggernaut
      @Virvum_Juggernaut 2 роки тому

      Facts! As opposed to being demotivating, if an impossible standard eventually creates even one super-drummer in future, then so be it.

    • @t3hgir
      @t3hgir Рік тому

      *raises hand shyly*

  • @user-dj4bu8bq5r
    @user-dj4bu8bq5r 2 роки тому

    thank you, craig

  • @portal432
    @portal432 Рік тому

    Craig is 100% correct

  • @Virvum_Juggernaut
    @Virvum_Juggernaut 2 роки тому

    If you’re gonna use samples at least choose something that sounds even remotely like drums. Mad skills but!
    Edit : The brows are looking a tad over-plucked Craig.

  • @gregchapman3519
    @gregchapman3519 2 роки тому +1

    Evans Hydraulics. Theres ya answer.

  • @twelvelookslike
    @twelvelookslike 2 роки тому +4

    Devin Attard's face and expressions irritate me

  • @darksunwithin
    @darksunwithin 2 роки тому +1

    Snare in the last clip still sounded artificial tbh.

  • @santoslhalper6116
    @santoslhalper6116 2 роки тому +1

    So wait. If something sounds fake, it's...Faked?!!

  • @poopytootsface3489
    @poopytootsface3489 2 роки тому

    444 likes with 4 dislikes

  • @matthewvinton7689
    @matthewvinton7689 2 роки тому +2

    First

  • @Chase_Ryan
    @Chase_Ryan 2 роки тому

    He needs a haircut