SUNDAY IS COMPROMISED. (Honkai: Star Rail)

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  • @maliniras
    @maliniras 4 місяці тому +159

    Sunday's ideal is what most people IRL do. Robin's ideal is what most people desire but honestly, neither of their ideals is right or wrong.

    • @kkorii5924
      @kkorii5924 4 місяці тому +44

      this both were justified, robin more so but sunday had good in his heart he was simply groomed by gopher wood to believe this was his only option

    • @StranglerSix
      @StranglerSix 4 місяці тому +20

      Exactly. That's why Dan Heng said Sunday has a noble soul. He is undoubtedly a hero lost in someone else's path.
      I wish he could get what he desires working for Elio's script, fingers crossed.

    • @kkorii5924
      @kkorii5924 4 місяці тому +17

      @@StranglerSix this, I've seen so many people have this huge hate boner for Sunday, when in reality a bunch of people have similar thoughts to Sunday. It's just that Sunday was manipulated into going on a path that isn't the greatest

    • @RaikaKoshiba650
      @RaikaKoshiba650 4 місяці тому +14

      @@StranglerSixDan Heng line was severely underrated, I honestly liked it better than Himeko’s (Of course Cia still did a phenomenal job with the delivery)
      Also, working with Elio would be the best use of his time. Robin has her own life being a pop idol, his role as the Oak Family Head is no more because of the dream ending as well as the fact that many people are hunting him down rn. He really has not many reasons to stay in Penacony.
      It’s time Sunday find his own path

    • @RaikaKoshiba650
      @RaikaKoshiba650 4 місяці тому +9

      @@kkorii5924People with a hate boner for Sunday don’t know anything, they fully believe that’s he’s a malicious person by nature which is false, they believe that he shackled Robin in a cage her entire life which is also false

  • @Moonithium
    @Moonithium 4 місяці тому +53

    I feel like a lot of people misunderstand one of the points of Sunday’s story. It’s about how one man’s utopia is another’s dystopia. Ideals can’t really be “right” or “wrong”, but if you apply any of them on a large-scale and take away flexibility/exceptions then the flaws are quickly revealed. Sunday isn’t the bad guy for trying to make the world a better place, but he IS the bad guy for forcing his perfect paradise onto everybody else regardless of what they think is best for themselves. The guests and citizens of Penacony didn’t actually consent to the Sweet Dream because they aren’t privy to the same knowledge of the Express + friends, and quite a few aren’t even sober! It’s like offering somebody candy and then secretly saying that eating it is consent to move them into your neighborhood LOL.
    Penacony is classic sci-fi, taking things we know and pushing them to the extremes. Sunday IS the antagonist and he IS the villain. He’s a not-so-subtle metaphor about what can happen when there’s corruption in a religion. As they say, “The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.” (And I’m not ignoring Gopher’s manipulation here, but that’s a separate discussion from Sunday’s role in the story. We’re meant to sympathize and understand Sunday, but we can acknowledge the circumstances and STILL disapprove of his decisions.)
    Somebody whose ideals clash with Sunday’s will naturally want to fight him on every level, even if they understand where he’s coming from. Being angry or disgusted at Sunday is just as reasonable as sympathizing or connecting with him. ┐( ̄ ヘ ̄)┌

  • @kkorii5924
    @kkorii5924 4 місяці тому +60

    honestly sunday isnt even evil, compared to, lets say cocolia he could hardly be considered a villain at all. the true villain of penacony is mr gopher wood(who btw isnt an npc, you can find his true appearance in some of the stickers you find around the map, he looks like a cool crow themed priest) from their dialogue and the way gopher talks to sunday its obvious sunday is being groomed/manipulated by the guy, hes using sundays love for his sister and his desire for justice against him, leading him to believe that the sweet dream in penacony is the only way to stop the suffering of the weak. he genuinely wants to do a good thing hes just been mislead into doing it in a bad way

    • @atthewmayeohanekay9294
      @atthewmayeohanekay9294 4 місяці тому +12

      Yeah, every time Sunday opened his mouth I was going, “okay, you’re right, but how does any of this make it okay to brainwash people into compliance? Doesn’t it just make you another ‘strong’ person imposing his will on the ‘weak?’”
      Sunday did many things wrong, but his biggest “oopsies” can be traced directly back to an adult that he trusted manipulating him since he was a malleable traumatized orphan boy. Ironic that squirrel tree ultimately failed because he and Sunday considered Robin to be a passive, ineffectual little girl, when in reality she was the kind of person to take a bullet in the neck and ram a space train into an emanator and consider it a “calculated risk.”

    • @kkorii5924
      @kkorii5924 4 місяці тому +9

      @@atthewmayeohanekay9294 actually about the last bit about robin, I don't believe they thought less of robin, there's multiple things in game that point to them knowing robin is the more stronger willed of the two siblings
      Which is probably why gopher focused solely on grooming Sunday rather than his sister because she would be harder to manipulate

    • @kkorii5924
      @kkorii5924 4 місяці тому +14

      @@atthewmayeohanekay9294 also about the brainwashing (please don't take this as me arguing, as I fully agree with you :D )
      I don't think Sunday actually brainwashed anyone as some of the things black swan says point to the people staying in enas sweet dream simply because they gave into that fake reality, it would be more precise to say Sunday showed them a sweet dream and they accepted it without fighting back

    • @dustytoyknife2343
      @dustytoyknife2343 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@kkorii5924 you can see in hmcs background robin is the bird outside the cage

    • @seraphywang4638
      @seraphywang4638 4 місяці тому +8

      @@kkorii5924
      There’s also the fact that because Robin is much more strong willed, Gopher manipulated Sunday into taking more of the “responsibility” to guilt him to taking it instead of his sister. Essentially, he’s threatening the pressure of the Head family responsibilities on to Sunday so his sister doesnt take it but in the meantime making Sunday more stressed, overworked, and easier to be manipulated.

  • @effortlessfury
    @effortlessfury 4 місяці тому +25

    Sunday's plan needs to be stopped, but honestly his outlook is far more accurate and realistic. Self-value IS an illusion and society dictates that value. The rat race society imposes is unnecessary and exists purely to uphold the broken power structures of the world. Sunday is acutely aware of the truths of the world, far more than Robin, but he unfortunately has taken the wrong approach to fixing those problems. Robin attempts to help people individually, but that simply won't work at scale, and is nothing more than a band-aid on a punctured artery. It's all we can do in the world as it exists today, but we shouldn't kid ourselves as to what it is.

  • @jasondphoenix
    @jasondphoenix 4 місяці тому +25

    Man...Sunday is kinda right...just needs a better aproach.
    Guy just needs a better PR team amd advertisments.
    Let's face it, people would jump at a chance to take an offer like that.

  • @jakubbarczyk4310
    @jakubbarczyk4310 4 місяці тому +71

    If you look at Robins E6 art you can see her scar from the bullet

    • @christmasitto1884
      @christmasitto1884 4 місяці тому +16

      Omg yes, I originally thought that a bullet narrowly missed her neck and left a small cut or a bruise or something, I NEVER imagined that she literally got SHOT IN THE NECK 😭
      Edit: typo whoops

  • @obsidianstar9089
    @obsidianstar9089 4 місяці тому +53

    as a Eagle loveing character once said " 'Merica, The fudge is a Kilometerrrr🦅🦅🦅🤠🤠🤠"

  • @claidheamhsoluis3044
    @claidheamhsoluis3044 4 місяці тому +19

    Otto 🤝 Kevin 🤝 Sunday

  • @meganmcdonald3333
    @meganmcdonald3333 4 місяці тому +5

    I’m going to be salty if Sunday ends up not being a playable character because I think I can fix him….and possibly give him a hug.

  • @Zenzen-senpai
    @Zenzen-senpai 4 місяці тому +10

    Sunday just wanted longer weekends lmao
    Poor guy he’s so tired of everything just give him a paid vacation already!

  • @herexcellency4304
    @herexcellency4304 4 місяці тому +22

    sunday just need a hug

    • @RaikaKoshiba650
      @RaikaKoshiba650 4 місяці тому +3

      Good thing Robin gave him one, most of the time Hoyoverse for some reason don’t like characters to hug

    • @effy9629
      @effy9629 4 місяці тому

      Well, I mean Nahida hugged ______ and caused her entire existence to be erased and forgotten by everyone except the Traveler in Teyvat 😂😂😂.

  • @anezuka2464
    @anezuka2464 4 місяці тому +8

    Honestly, It's sad to see Sunday being one of the mischaracterized in the game just because he's a guy and disregarded the fact that he was at the first stage of ascending to aeonhood. (third phase of boss)
    Like he's not someone trying to revive an aeon because he's crazily religious like others in the game (or the fandom) assumed, he wants to make a paradise because he loves humanity too much.

    • @effortlessfury
      @effortlessfury 4 місяці тому

      He's more so an Emanator who brute forced his acquisition of the Harmony's power using the wills of the dreamers.

  • @MicroHazard21
    @MicroHazard21 4 місяці тому +22

    1:05:27 I just noticed that Camden (Aventurine's VA) also voices the calm journalist (i think ?)

    • @RaikaKoshiba650
      @RaikaKoshiba650 4 місяці тому

      Hey, nice catch!

    • @cry-o1436
      @cry-o1436 4 місяці тому +2

      Pretty sure I recognized a lot of the VAs voicing those npcs lmao

  • @crimsonrose4648
    @crimsonrose4648 4 місяці тому +2

    Sunday's logic is based on a host of false dicotomies lol. Every choice has me like "actually secret third thing you clearly haven't thought of because of your own ignorance on the matter". Like I'm educated when it comes to birds and there are several points in the story about the Charmony dove that is fully because Sunday wasn't educated in how birds and birds rescue work. Young birds are taught flight like how humans are taught to walk. Would you expect a human toddler to be capable of climbing a mountain with no training on how to even walk? Also in the sold kids section where was the option to find the kids and get them their freedom? Like wtf.

  • @meerzanazmi2823
    @meerzanazmi2823 4 місяці тому +5

    Sunday's dream is to have an eternal mangekyo sharingan where everyday is sunday.... mood ( ᗜ‸ᗜ )

  • @fish5612
    @fish5612 4 місяці тому +24

    jei legit call them "pepsi kid" no hecckin way

  • @CombativeMedic
    @CombativeMedic 4 місяці тому +13

    I just finished the story last night, although I did sacrifice my sleep for today ...I'd say it was worth it. Hope you enjoy the story, Kage!

  • @Toksyuryel
    @Toksyuryel 3 місяці тому +3

    Still waiting for part 3...

  • @guin2841
    @guin2841 4 місяці тому +4

    Boothill’s curses giving me The Good Place flashback XD

  • @atthewmayeohanekay9294
    @atthewmayeohanekay9294 4 місяці тому +6

    43:15 Jei: “at first I thought this place was fun but th ore people talk the more scared I get.”
    Ohhh boy! If it isn’t this entire arc in a nutshell! Yeah, I spent this entire *planet* waiting for the other shoe to drop. The moment I heard it was all gonna be dreams my very first gut reaction was “okay, so when are we gonna have to go full Bloodborne on this MF?”
    Every time someone opens their mouth I’m like, “oh look they’re being brainwashed! Can’t wait for Il Dottore to show up and screw with their perceptions until Nahida is forced to intervene directly.”

    • @vladimirlestrad3120
      @vladimirlestrad3120 4 місяці тому

      Dear oh dear, what was it? The hunt, the blood, or the horrible dream?

  • @kaoset1237
    @kaoset1237 4 місяці тому +2

    Where is part 3 jay... the Ninjas are resless

  • @goldenchickenburger
    @goldenchickenburger 4 місяці тому +7

    2hrs with editing? BROTHER.

  • @SPEEDY4004
    @SPEEDY4004 4 місяці тому +2

    2:07:45 kind of ironic from a follower of "destiny's slave" which does stuff good or bad by his scripts including coming to penacony
    mfg
    Olli

  • @writnreal994
    @writnreal994 4 місяці тому +3

    Sunday said no more work? Sign me up.

  • @FloeticsPH
    @FloeticsPH 3 місяці тому +1

    NOOOOO you didn't talk to Himeko during the Part where Sunday was asking if you shoulda support Robin in her path of Harmony. 😭😭

  • @yoru762
    @yoru762 4 місяці тому +2

    where part 3?
    >>insert spongebob caveman meme

  • @CandyApples4ever
    @CandyApples4ever 20 днів тому

    This clock thing just sounds like Mickey Mouse to me
    Also that quiz was dumb. I was like where’s the third option that he’s not thinking about. You even questioned about the third option itself. Sundays a bRain washed fool

  • @Z9sb2yd8zj2
    @Z9sb2yd8zj2 4 місяці тому +4

    Oh he continued it nice to know

  • @ohfire2565
    @ohfire2565 4 місяці тому +6

    Omg a two hour video....im gonna scream without the S 😭

  • @antukinann1070
    @antukinann1070 8 днів тому

    This is like Nahida’s story quest you can’t force people to stay in a dream just because u think they’ll be happy there if u want to leave the real world go ahead but never force ppl to go down your path. The part where he gave us silly questions to answer to make us believe his theory that’s manipulative. Firefly was right we all have our birth right to choose not for someone to choose for us

  • @Bertie-f6d
    @Bertie-f6d 12 днів тому

    White Daniel Gonzalez Paul Davis Robert

  • @steveguflarkins4630
    @steveguflarkins4630 11 днів тому

    Clark Margaret Harris Christopher Jones Jason

  • @WoodGeorgia
    @WoodGeorgia 12 днів тому

    Jackson Karen Moore Charles Thomas Brenda

  • @DaveAdam57
    @DaveAdam57 4 місяці тому +8

    Sunday = Maruki(P5R)

  • @SolHobz
    @SolHobz 4 місяці тому +1

    yeah IX knows how to pick his Waifus

  • @KendricksMaragoudakisE
    @KendricksMaragoudakisE 15 днів тому

    Thomas Donna Taylor Gary Moore Deborah

  • @orientallily4860
    @orientallily4860 4 місяці тому +3

    Sunday is Jesus Christ

    • @SaturdayParker
      @SaturdayParker 4 місяці тому

      Nah don't direspect Jesus like that

    • @hirumakazeko
      @hirumakazeko 4 місяці тому +4

      Nah don't disrespect Sunday like that

  • @MrAlva42
    @MrAlva42 4 місяці тому +2

    i love Kage

  • @northmoth
    @northmoth 4 місяці тому +1

    Sunday Is Compromised Because I Stole Him

    • @fyoratlover69
      @fyoratlover69 4 місяці тому

      Sharing is caring. Let him out the basement.

  • @Sirwest299
    @Sirwest299 4 місяці тому +3

    Sunday is right

  • @ingidjones9107
    @ingidjones9107 4 місяці тому

    why does Sunday's ideals feel like Obito's?

  • @SaturdayParker
    @SaturdayParker 4 місяці тому

    You know this gives off Belobog vs IPC vibes. But now 'giving up your freedom is more palatable.
    Btw I still think Sunday is cray cray

    • @atthewmayeohanekay9294
      @atthewmayeohanekay9294 4 місяці тому

      I think it’s a nice contrast. Belobog had resisted the eternal freeze and fragmentum corrosion for *centuries.* Their survival chances are BETTER than they ever have been. Real progress is being made to help the world recover and the future, for the first time in 700 years, looks bright. Then the IPC shows up and says, “yeah, unless we help you you’re doomed, also pay us,” and given what happened to Top-Ass’ planet, she believes it too.
      Belobog is recovering from a stellaron disaster, and giving up the ability to act to the IPC makes sense from a “pure numbers” point of view, but doesn’t take into account the specific circumstances of this particular situation. Namely, the fact that Jarilo-VI is *healing.* By the will and actions of its own people.
      Penacony, by contrast, is stagnating. It’s a cultural dead end that goes nowhere. Like if Las Vegas was run by the actual fae who desperately wanted you to never ever leave. People “willingly” give up their freedom anyway, and that’s the root of the problem. Penacony is a place full of people who have given up. The trick is to give them a kick in the ass to get them moving again.

  • @HazZzel-
    @HazZzel- 4 місяці тому

    I kin Sunday a disgusting amount

  • @spacecat278
    @spacecat278 4 місяці тому +3

    Part 2: The 2 hour Sunday yappathon

  • @lucustwyatt1960
    @lucustwyatt1960 4 місяці тому

    chicken wing boy and chicken wing girl

  • @nyx3496
    @nyx3496 4 місяці тому +2

    Yo jeikage if you give this comment a heart I'll start going to the gym 🚶‍♂️

  • @andrewgreenwood9068
    @andrewgreenwood9068 4 місяці тому

    1:03:58 i assume its because she and Kafka have a history.

  • @Former_Thunderfang_Gang
    @Former_Thunderfang_Gang 4 місяці тому

    1:09:57 I think I get that

  • @carlodavid5811
    @carlodavid5811 4 місяці тому

    YES FIRST!😍 JEIS VIDS ARE WHAT GETS ME THROUGH LIFE

  • @KNight-jb6mk
    @KNight-jb6mk 4 місяці тому

    I'm early Kage!!!

  • @elijahdubois7902
    @elijahdubois7902 4 місяці тому

    Boothill is the best! 😂

  • @ArcticDracovish
    @ArcticDracovish 4 місяці тому

    ayo W vid

  • @griseo19
    @griseo19 4 місяці тому

    Hello

  • @roguewave4396
    @roguewave4396 4 місяці тому

    You really need to do the new music festival in Genshin, you can tell that Max (Itto’s VA) had a blast recording for it.

  • @enovastar
    @enovastar 3 місяці тому

    If we get Sunday as a character one day. I will be rolling!

  • @Bake-kurijra
    @Bake-kurijra 4 місяці тому +2

    Hold on I thought fire fly was dead . Is that her or is it a ghost . And is this that dream scap event or a new one where firefly is alive again wtf

    • @justinm.8016
      @justinm.8016 4 місяці тому +11

      Did you do 2.1 quest?

    • @min4743
      @min4743 4 місяці тому

      ​@@justinm.8016 Judging by his words, clearly not.