Deadmau5 Rant Cymatics
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he speaks exactly like a message board forum post from 2006
This is an incredibly insightful observation
Oddly accurate
Lol reverb was different in 2006
@@jamesalechardy you seem like a fun guy
@@figalaguff565 listen there is not mush room for humour here, reverb is serious
"This is a cardinal sin of EDM right here."
LMAOOOO
@@raff1495 loool
nice
*hit's button w/ gobbery look on face*
😂😂😂 whack ass
This guy is the Gordon Ramsey of EDM
No. Bad comparison
Yup perfect example
Which is good
@@Filthyheartz I disagree with ur disagreeing. They r both masters of their craft and they both tend to shit on and cripple the self esteem of those who just suk at life.Deadmau5 is indeed the Gordon Ramsey of EDM🧐
No, he’s not. Ramsay is good at what he does.
Joel is basically Bill Burr of electronic music lmao
LMAOOO fr
@@brumusicology sup buzzkill
"why would you say something so controversial, yet so brave?"
his movement kinda reminds me of stuart from the big bang theory
Which is funny considering how bill burr talks about edm (and specifically references the guy with “a mouse head”) on Conan.
".. Marshmellow ain't gonna fucking do it.."
He not wrong, though.
wait how are you a verified artist channel? with 1 sub?
@@quinntheyeti9556 Artist channels and Verified status are two separate things. You can be one or the other or both. I'm an artist , not a public figure.
@@quinntheyeti9556 2 subs now ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@@quinntheyeti9556 you can get verified as an artist just by having your music distributed, once you've got at least 1 song made it's pretty much just a case of uploading it to the distributor, paying the distribution fee, and letting them know you want it uploaded on your UA-cam channel. Downside is UA-cam uses artist name recognition to find songs so if you happen to have the same name as another artist you run the risk of their songs appearing on your channel and getting UA-cam to sort it out is a right hassle.
he should start a channel called "drunkmau5" and just rant about stuff like this lol
more ranting about Marshmello and stuff lol
I could sit and listen to DeadMau5 talk about shit all day long, especially other artists who are just imo "cookie cutter artists".
Not a bad idea if i say so myself
Isn’t that what he already does?
@@brobb-sd9vp true haha
One thing I love about the current state of EDM is a lot of artists are finally getting back to creating original sounds, less is better. Nostalgic stuff too, but it's cool again too sound different. I love this.
Love the Marshmallow burns
Yea hate new djs these days. Whatever happened to people like Alice Dj 😆 atleast she was original.
Honeslty this is so sad cause Marshmello (this is his real artistic name btw XD) loves him, actually deadmau5 was his inspiration, and also Marshmello as his unique style, nobody, for what I heard, made a remake that's sounds almost like the original...
Like if i take "Marshmello x Slushii - Twinbow then u will understand...
@@darioparisi6863 deadmau5 isnt necessarily saying he hates marshmello as a person its just that he finds his music overly pristine and characterless. I think as a musician you need to develop thick skin. A lot of brilliant classical musicians dont like jazz and vice versa, thats just a matter of preference.
You mean dotcom
@@darioparisi6863 marshmello has unique style?, holy cow, that sounds like something an edm fanboy a.k.a a newcomer would say.
Joel being a honest producer right here
@Joe Smith his point is simple , don't use a sample or instrument like that , colour it with reverbs, delays , flaggers etc
@Joe Smith Apparently he doesn't think Marshmello does: 1:35
Also what he's saying is how overused the Cymatics stuff is. Which is completely true. I get tired of hearing Cymatics and Splice loops just thrown into songs without any modifications whatsoever.
@Joe Smith I personally like cutting loops up or reusing them as one shots. But I guess even as overused as it is. Reverb and Delay is better then nothing.. 🤷♂️
@Joe Smith He's saying get creative and TRY SHIT and you'll stick out. Quit worrying about preset X or Y
Forgot to mention that you Joel are the reason I started making music. It all started with faxing Berlin for me! Thank You so much for everything you have given me!
For me too. Picked up fl cuz of him
for me, it started with "I remember"
for me it was ghosts n stuff
I got into doing art because of his music. Growing up, discovering Deadmau5 back in 2012 really changed me. The guy seems like an awesome person too. Thanks Joel :)
@@theaterofsouls best song ever by him
Presents are supposed to be “starting points” for producers to further tweak the sound and make it their own. But most just use them as “ending points” treating them as synths that are “finished” and that they can’t be improved upon or changed in any way. Cymatics was never the problem, it’s always been our unwillingness to experiment or our desperation to fit in with the sound that’s popular at the moment.
I might have missed something. Isn't Cymatics the study of particle response to vibration?
@@GoDamnWeird It’s the name of a company that makes preset/sample packs for music producers to use.
Yo I'm barely a musician but I felt this/see it a lot, even just in the way the presets are marketed. 5/5 take
"Presents are supposed to be "starting points" for producers" true enough, my best stuff comes from someone buying me a synth for christmas.
fr i always add a lot of effects until i like the sound
This is why deadmau5 is one of my absolute favorite producers. He gets it
💯
Fancy seeing you here
@@AMsharples hey! What’s up man 😂
Me either, just use tons of distortion + delay + reverb on your rinkydink arpeggio so it doesn’t sound like a computer?
@@bronxcartel6193 the base sound patch also sounds pretty solid. I assume it's Serum, so it's a very clean analog bass sound, lots of punch, and yeah.. he adds distortion, delay, reverb, and compression... wow. May I point you Mr Mau5 to Van Halen's first album from 1979? This sound has been done a lot since then. I mean, I love those effects, but Joel likes to talk like he's some genius for figuring this out. If the clean/dry sound patch works for the song you're making... then do it. If you want to fill up space and atmosphere, add effects...
If people don’t like that computerized sound there are plenty of other types of music to listen to that doesn’t involve sequencers, drum machines, synths, daws and computers to make ... I personally like it. Give me those effin sounds slammed down on the grid
Pends on the frequency
he means making those digital stale sounds have more colour,movement n life by post processing that's all,he is not shitting on the entire digital genres just some components to take it to next level.
What genre of music doesn’t use some type of a daw these days...? I can’t think of anyone who records exclusively on analog tape
@@Wooden_iguana14I see your point but I'd like to mention music doesn't have to be recorded
@@Wooden_iguana14yeah music doesn’t even have to be sound
"its too clean it sound too computer"
add delay and reverb
aaaaaaah yes that's not computer sounding anymore
😂
Doesn't even touch on automation
he's right though
hahahaha thank you, in another comment I was trying to elaborate on what you just summed up in a joke. It sounds WAY MORE LIKE A COMPUTER NOW... wtf is he on. He also says nobody can copy it, even though its a typical scaled line with very basic and harsh patch. Slapping reverb and delays on it.... seems like a rookie move.... i wonder if he is trolling in these videos, trying to make everyone copy some dumbass shit, and he goes makes proper tunes in private. I've seen his modular techno live set in the studio there and it was PROPER. He knows his stuff, but this video.... lol i dunno
I get you, but how is he supposed to do that? An analog reverb? Yeah, would do the work, but he doesn't have that kind of studio. Or you meant a reverb hall?
Don't forget that the concept of natural sound, is to make it sound like you're in that beaufitul orchestra room, feel that vibe/feeling. It is not always possible to have that kind of room at disposition and for that possibilty (of making it sound so natural from home) we got computers. Back in time it was all analog true that, but it was unthinkable for a "common person" to book a recording studio. Gears were expensive and almost all mechanics, eventually driven by a central computer with many people working behind the controls. Today you can make hits from you laptop, great sounding and from home. And there are countless of great analog modelled plugins out there (Mäag, Waves, Brainworx, ...).
Wow, heavy compression, delay and reverb on a synth? Who would have thought? My life is changed. Thank you Deadmau5.
You think that's all that's on the synth?
@@Mopark25 Heard him mention a distressor so that could add saturation, and maybe he added some specific eq moves but if there's anything else, please enlighten me.
@@anon_forever Nah, you got it. The saturation is the biggie, that's what gives it life, and I think that's what Joel's point was. Unless that's what you're going for, strictly digital sounds are not pleasing to the ear.
And this is why your not deadmau5
@@silverflame6624Yeah I didn't start producing in the late 2000s in the largest city in a first world nation where I was one of 16 other people who was producing for a genre that would coincidentally become massively popular the following 5 years later.
You f*@ckwad.
ITS TO C L E A N ITS D R Y
Its got balls
The Gordon Ramsey of EDM
omg delay and reverb absolute mozart
"Marshmello ain't gonna fucking do it" LMAAAOOOOOOO
Thou makes a good point, There are many clones that aren't original with there own unique sound.
And that's why his one of the best producers I ever seen
I actually like the dry version too..if I used that sound, I would probably automate between the extreme wet and extreme dry sounds within the song and that would be very powerful
Yup I was thinking the same thing, going between clean and saturated/ filtered sounds is more impactful because of the contrast, it can build tension
so i just need to drop a reverb on everything and i'm good? :)
Basically
Eq (cut unnecessary low frequencies etc.), compress, delay, reverb, compress again, eq (minor tweaks)
@@christianstainazfischer FACTS
@@christianstainazfischer sweet. done. now where's my grammy?
He was using a hardware processor in the clip I think
someone please make a compilation of that voice he does when he imitates people he hates - I love it
I wonder if he realizes he's sitting around talking to himself
he is streaming this stuff, he is talking to an audience.
@@njm5642 the joke went over your head i think
@@zeamzoomnpop2931 you thought wrong.
@@njm5642 the joke went over your head i think
@@njm5642 the joke went over your head I think
Huge respect for this....I remember your old tracks on FL 3.1 and was blown away with the shit you pulled off...made me get real creative quick. Then FL studio just started throwing presets out the ass everywhere and for a while stuff just got stagnant.... sometimes less is more in that regard. That said always been jealous of your studio and Hanz Zimmer's lol
I don't think this channel is actually run by Deadmau5 himself.
Prime example of what reverb & delay can do in terms of creating space. Crazy Joel 🔥🔥
dang, not only a reverb but a delay too!!!!??? sheesh 🥶 this beat go BRRR!!
thats why deadmau5 is awesome, hes different, he has "his sound"
He does yeah
Old School here :) ua-cam.com/video/NrmMsfmop7s/v-deo.html
@Alex Thornton Old School here :) ua-cam.com/video/NrmMsfmop7s/v-deo.html
i heard the only thing people have really learned from his master class is that basically everything can be found in youtube tutorials and the best part is learning how he personally works which was said to be the best and most interesting parts.. and that at times he will mindlessly ramble giving you nothing to learn from.
because i was actually intersted in his class.. not because i wanna make edm music but so i can learn more about his hardware that room.. ughhh..
I wanna make dark mr kitty-ish like synth stuff.
well that's them,it would be unfortunate if you hear everything n take it to face value,try it yourself. now yes it's basic as fuck but it was meant to be cus it was the only one of it's kind in the masterclass series at the time but regardless even if you're a beginner or a pro for me it was worth it even for little gems tip he throws around here n there.
sound of both versions can be good. depends of the context, what feeling the artis wants to achieve. but if the melody sucks no effect will help you
true
Dubsteb goes wob wob brrr
@@swaaxn Old School here :) ua-cam.com/video/NrmMsfmop7s/v-deo.html
0:47 - "It sounds like a fucking computer, ya know what I mean?"
Yeah, well that's probably because it is a fucking computer.
It’s funny how his arpeggio is actually pretty boring, but just because he adds effects and saturation, thinks it’s amazing. All because HE did it. Sad... lol
1:34 joel in a nutshell
Old School here :) ua-cam.com/video/NrmMsfmop7s/v-deo.html
I love how joel somehow always finds a way to shit on marshmallow
Old School here :) ua-cam.com/video/NrmMsfmop7s/v-deo.html
“I can see why” 😂 He is so fun and up front!
I actually like the first one too. So clean, robotic, precise. It just depends how you want to use it, as a primary sound or else. Even computers have a soul, let's not be racist against computers.
Can't believe he's computerphobic 😔
I live for these drunken rants💖
that's why proper sound production also includes constant changes in the core sound itself, slow filter sweeps, tiny detunes of OSCs against each other and that stuff. you don't necessarily need to drench everything in reverb and delay.
Nothing better than roasting a marshmallow! 🤣
dude is on another level than anybody else.
No he is not....there are better artists...you just dont know them yet and i wont list them too...
Nah, if they were better they'd be bigger, proof is in the pudding kiddo.
No its not son
The biggest gems aren’t found easily by a miner walking in to the tunnel. You gotta dig in deep and put in work. Eventually you’ll find your gem.
@@dudebro8884 stop smoking whatever you are smoking
Idk if you'll see this, but I respect you and your work, your music has touched me and you don't even know me. You have a powerful effect with your sound. And I've personally stumbled onto effect overlays on stock sounds just the other day, it's so wild to hear from deadmau5 himself saying that's the key to it... I know I'm a nobody rn but I just wanted to say this was refreshing to see somebody speaking on this directly after having the same thought christalize for me the other day. Wild and crazy coincidence, that. Even though I stumbled on this a year after you posted it, to me, it's so relivent to me in my life right now, so thank you for doing this, I want you to know your words echo, and it's hard to pinpoint the mass effect...so...thanks for putting this out there, it's crazy what kinda resources there are for people if they look, and that's thanks to creators like you choosing to peal back the layers, so I respect you for that. Big ups from canada.
Yr Masterclass was amazing, BTW. I learned jack shit but I enjoyed it very much.
(well it did restructure some ideas in my brain... so.. ty)
He explains it so detailed but the way he says it makes sense and he makes it easily understood.
There's something poetic about this. His studio is full of hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of equipment, the kind of stuff most producers could only dream of having access too, and yet he's sitting at the computer ranting about how he can't understand why someone would ever want to use a dry synth sound. All these amazing tools around him, and he is so incapable of thinking outside his very limited style that he's just dumping generic effects onto generic synth patches and then proselytizing about how he's some master producer because hacks like Mashmellow are somehow even lazier than that.
Wow
That studio is insane
I remember driving to high school with my older cousin- 10 years ago- it was literally the cymatics beat, it was really nice listening to at the time because it would always be dark out when we were driving in the morning and it made me kinda relax even though I never dug school. But hearing people say trippie red and playboi did this just throws the whole perspective of the origin of the sound out of wack. Talk about an audio bummer, man.
“marshmello ain’t gonna fucking do it” LMAO
yes sir, turning all knobs up
I will always find these rants hilarious
I like how all the people in here talking about how dumb the reverb compression thing is when most of them have never produced anything in their lives.
Joel just looks like a completely different person without a hat on
“Marshmello ain’t gonna fuckin do it”
That floored me hahaha
Yo wtf is he running that sound through because it DOES indeed sound fantastic.
Hey, if you mean the drive/saturation, its distressors. However you don't need distressors to get this saturation. The fx don't need to be anything special, just some creative routing into a nice delay and send bus. I've grown up using a laptop and branched out slowly, using a good bit of hardware now, but i've made sure to be diligent about what shines where, and the simplicity of it is, you can achieve the sound of high end if your ear can properly judge whats happening. High end gear just gets you to that sweet spot instantly, but you can still get to this point, wiith just a longer and more complicated approach. You can get the sound of distressors using a decent mixer and some high end plugins.
@@okidot So from what I'm gathering from the video and you, it's basically a squeaky clean sound running through a distressor and some light reverb / delay? I think he mentioned UAD, so would it be one of theirs probably?
@@okidot That is some buttery saturation is all I'm saying.. I feel like I would have a hard time dialing that in with my Ableton saturator.
For those following, it seems like an EL8 compressor / distressor is likely the saturation here. Trying to figure out how I can emulate that sound.
I'm going to use Glue Compressor in Ableton and push the soft clip. Aside from that I really don't know.
2:28 Tell me you're deadmau5 without tell me you're deadmau5
Okay. You guys heard it. Saturate/distort everything and wash it out with huge reverbs and delays to make it sound epic. Your engineer will thank you.
its an example, he isnt going to use it in a song.
"I'll tell you what, marshmello ain't gonna fuckin do it" love it
Haha thank god someone speaks my mind!
Such an incredible human being.
A lot of his criticisms come down to taste, but "the Cymatics FM AIDS that has plagued the dubstep community" is objectively correct.
i fucking love this guy!!!
the most no bullsh*t n to the point producer out there... thanks joel i take these tips n RUN w them
He makes me laugh I love the guy.
Yo that melody right there... That's got balls.
"Marshmallo ain't gonna fuckin do it" 😂😂
"you know"
*no, no sir, i do not know*
“but i’ll tell you what marshmellow ain’t gonna fuckin do it” LMFAOOOOO
It sounds like a fucking computer. Joel. It’s still a computer.
haha yeh, anyone who actually makes records and owns gear would laugh at people scoffing at computers. No matter how much gear im using, my computer is the brain. The hardware vs software debate is literally for people who don't know better!
But does it sound like one?
@@Allenbass7 yes
And still sounds like a computer, but a computer with personality. Joel's personality. :))
I'm glad it makes him so happy.
Bro I swear deadnou5 is the best he is very precise about his sound and music what a god
yeah so basically, use compressors the end.
Definitely agree Mouse but how about chopping it up with some slow slides etc etc
I would crack a beer with this guy lmfao
This is why I love Deadmaus
“Marshmallow ain’t gonna fuckin do it” my fuckin man
Take a shot every time Joel says "its like"
joel... he is a professsssssssional dude... he is awesome... music, mask, personity.
Exactly why I love Joel. Down to earth, no bullshit. Call it for what it is.
Mann his synths are powerfull
I dont understand why this is so crazy, i dont have context but he’s just saying that adding effects to a preset is better than just adding it dry?
I also don't get it... I wish I did lol....
Lol ikr
Sounds like he's saying there's a trend of people using presets and leaving things dry and robotic. His whole thing has always been about building things from the ground up, or at the very least being experimental and trying something different. Basically if you make music it shouldn't be possible to swap it out for someone else's music. There should be a signature, something a little different, and adding some weight or analog flair or whatever is a good idea.
@@GrandmasterofWin That is an awesome explanation. Thank you!
he is saying that producers these days are lazy and dont make their sounds. they just use presets. wich is true. have you seen the video composerily did on "how to sound like porter robinson" where he pointed out that porter litterally just used presets someone made in several of his songs. i like some of his stuff but that is lazy.
Joel spittin' 1st grade knowledge
Everybody omg 😱 Joel said this and it’s why he’s my fav! Lowkey 90% of what was said was completely opinions, not facts or reasons on what makes a sound unique in its own way.
Many years later and millions of dollars later, he keeps ranting about everyone and everything. That says more about himself and his personality than about the people and things he rants about. If I had his money and his fame, the last thing I would do was worrying about what others do. I don’t anyway, but if I had his life I would surely spend my time doing something positive for others and myself rather than bitching about every little thing on this planet that has a different perspective than him. Really sad...
Idk if its a common coffee business in Canada, but the cup he’s drinking out of is from the same coffee shop he’s been going too for the past 11 years lmao
2:30 "Of course I know my fu*king shit"
:) lol
Love this guy! Like really love this guy!
“It sounds like a fucking computer” 🤔
Studio looks like a google server room.
"its got balls"
That livestream is nomore on the internet ...
I want ring of elusium ...
Old School here :) ua-cam.com/video/NrmMsfmop7s/v-deo.html
Truth
I like the dry sound more. The overblown reverb and delay are shoving out all the space for other stuff to come in. Can imagine fading up into that tone for a bit for effect, but raw sounds are great for no-nonsense driving rhythm. It's like he's so scared of being thought of as "uncreative" he's overcompensating with effects.
I like that you are thinking for yourself! Yes the dry is better than with fx. The FX sound common and computer-like. However, the dry setting is pretty dull. Common arp scale, with minimal patching going on, very harsh open filter... not very nice. He then rants that nobody could recreate this because the need distressors. Anyone who says you need 'x' gear to do 'y' is not a sincere musician in my eyes. I spent a few months with a stereo pair of distressors, and there is plent of ways to achieve this sound. The real magic with gear like that, is it gets you 'there' right away. Otherwise it takes time using a combination of other approaches
Weird hearing him talk down on marshmello cuz they’re the same guy to me
Ehhh I’d disagree, other than the fact they both have helmets. Their music is totally different lmao
@@asimplepie2279 I think both of them have mediocre music that’s what I meant there. I find it funny how outspoken on technique and other artists deadmau5 has always been because I’ve never felt his stuff was good enough to warrant that. Obviously a ton of people would disagree with me which is cool. Diff strokes diff folks.
@@a8fine1youngSchapT totally understand!! Everyone has their own tastes! 👍😎
Deadmau5 is just master of his art!!
Hmm... some imperfections seem to be undesirable for music, while others seem to enhance music... very interesting...
That was hilarious.
Thanks man.
Indeed, that's why I only use hardware, plugins are too tight, internal DAW midi is to tight. Hardware synths, even digital, the midi isn't as tight and has a groove to it and changes all the time. Don't correct it to perfection, just use it or only correct the latency if needed. Analogue synths are never the same and makes your music feel alive, but it is harder to mix, because it can be muddy as hell, but one you get it right, it sounds so well.
Bro I actually love deadmau5 😂
Always love these
Bro im searching for ring of elusiyum .
. Where to find your livestream ?????
That flex in the end tho 🔥
Wasn't much of a flex given how bland his music has been for the past decade. Masterclass go for popularity, not paragons. Perhaps they do and simply land relatively mediocre figures who say 'sure, I'll do your show'. Still valuable information for beginners and intermediates, of course, and outliers exist in their lineup (Chris Hadfield and Danny Elfman, for instance), but Joel really doesn't scream 'amazing songwriter' to me these days, which feels more objective with each new year.
how did he make that effect?
Man said about a dozen adjectives in one minute LOOL
"Marshmello aint gonna fuckin do it" XDDD