That would be a hell of a sight to watch these 2 engage blade to blade. Qel-Dromas one of my fav duelists in Star Wars, his Djem so strikes were only inferior to Anakin Skywalker and Darth Bane, and that’s about it.. He’s one of the top 20 swordsmen in Star Wars with ease. And then Mace’s skill with a blade doesn’t really need to be flaunted at all, he lets it do the talkin. I’d love to see this like on screen, in like cinematic form or somethin, like Kao Cen Darach & Malgus. We need more short films and “trailers” made like that.
Awesome work dude - my favorite Star Wars character of all time vs someone I could definitely learn more about. I definitely didn't realize how powerful Ulic actually was. Looking forward to the next one!
Happy to see this one as Ulic is a seriously underrated combatant. I see him more often placed with the likes of mid-tier Council members (Fisto, Tiin, Vos) circa the Clone Wars, but personally view him on par with Anakin, Obi Wan and Shaak Ti based on his performance against Exar Kun (at least as a swordsman). I'm curious as to how he would fare against Corran Horn, another dedicated swordsman. Definitely agree that Mace would solidly win though, 8/10 at least. Great vid.
I think Ulic is directly on par, if not equal to Anakin Skywalker. I remember Jensaarai even stating in the Ulic Qel-Droma vs Kit Fisto video that Anakin and Ulic were comparable in almost any possible degree, with the anly difference being hubris vs blind rage
This was pretty good. Didn't know a lot about Uilq, and this video has definitely convinced me he'd be a challenging opponent for Mace. Still, glad one of my favorite Jedi triumphed once again. If I was to calculate his advantage over Uliq, I would say it is around 5.9/10 to 6.4/10. But this is more or less speculation on my part. Anyways, nice video as always. :)
Rico, well I finally got the time to watch this video. My negatives: I believe that Mace did once get his "super conductive loop" established before Sidious, when he fought Depa Billaba, but I may not be remembering right. I think you gave Mace an unfair advantage with not giving Ulic the advantage in non-Force assisted physicality. That being said, Mace is one of my all time favorite Jedi, and I do not disagree with the verdict in any case. Extremely well researched, and presented even better than that. You've set the bar high for yourself for the rest of your season, sir. Thank-you, Dante.
I'm impressed with your analysis of ulic in this video. I've always been of the mind that he was indeed quite powerful. like you said in the video, most youtubers aren't impressed with his force feats, but you gave credit where credit was due. cheers!
Awesome video Rico. I agree with everything you presented. In fact I do believe this is a rematch between Anakin Skywalker and mace Windu since Ulic is so comparable to Anakin on every level. the edges were given in each category just like Antoine did though. personally I still can't decide is Skywalker better or Qel-Droma better, but I definitely agree with this video. mayhap I say that this fight would have stong parallels between the fight between Skywalker and Windu. Still, awesome vid man! love you! nice to see you making videos again
Good video, but there were several things you got wrong/missed for both characters. First, Mace is canonically superior to Ulic, at least when he was a Jedi, as a lightsaber duelist, being proclaimed the second best duelist the Order had produced in its entire history, only surpassed by Yoda ( _The Official Starships and Vehicles Collection 48_ ). Unless you can provide some evidence Ulic grew so considerably as a Sith Lord as to completely negate this accolade, Mace is the winner by default. I find that rather unlikely, given that Mace was a superior duelist to Dooku as a Jedi, and even after the latter became a Sith Lord and improved his dueling skills even further ( _The Official Star Wars Fact File 68_ ), Mace still held the advantage (Nick Gillard). Second is Mace Windu's use of Tutaminis. He has in fact displayed this power in his fight with Darth Sidious, using it to deflect his Force lightning ( _Revenge of the Sith script, Revenge of the Sith comic_ ). Given Sidious' power is so far beyond Ulic's it stops being funny, I find it rather unlikely he would manage to do Mace any harm when the latter can partially negate Sidious' Lightning. Third is an accolade procaliming Mace the most powerful Jedi to have ever lived next to Yoda ( _Fact File 11_ ). You showed it briefly in your video but neglected to mention it, unless I missed something. This accolade marks him as a more powerful Force user than the likes of Revan reborn, who is casually ashing Dark Council members, and taking on teams of some very powerful and accomplished Force users by himself. Of course the accolade doesn't apply to Prime Ulic, and I don't think Revan's feats are outside of Ulic's scope of abilities at all, but the accolade is still worth mentioning. Now stuff for Ulic: You missed a particularly great strength feat, his best one in my opinion, when a team of Cay Qel-Droma, Qrrrl Toq, and another Jedi were struggling to hold Ulic down. This is so great because Toq has shown he can pin several men to a wall casually, and Cay has literally torn through droids with his bare hands. If they together struggle to hold Ulic down, then you can imagine just how strong Ulic is, and frankly I don't think Mace has anything comparable. Second would be Ulic's accolade of being a Dark Lord of the Sith second only to Exar Kun ( _The Dark Side Sourcebook_ ). You, again, brought this up in your video but I don't think you truly understand what it means or how monumental it is. First, let's note that the quote is in no way restricted by era (aside from the future of course), nor by faction, and the statements preceding it make it clear this is a historical recounting, and would thus refer to all of history. This would mean Ulic is more powerful than the likes of Karness Muur, a peer of Vong-infested Darth Krayt. Krayt is the most powerful member of a Sith Order whose collective strength has cast a shadow over the Force, even deeper than the one produced by Darth Sidious during his time ( _Legacy Era Campaign Guide_ ); whose weakest members can manipulate massive satellites. While this doesn't make Krayt more powerful than Sidious, it is still extremely impressive that he manages to be the top dog in basically the strongest Sith Order in history, and scaling from his inferiors would indicate he can casually ragdoll humongous objects (you can find a picture of the satellite online) and damage lightsaber-resistant objects with his Force Lightning (Darth Wyyrlok III). And Ulic is even above that. Overall, I'd still say Mace wins this due to him being able to block anything Ulic dishes at him Force-wise, and his factually superior dueling skills. It's an incredible fight, though.
***** No, I said I agree with the verdict. I merely provided you with some information you missed or didn't know about. I can also provide the quotes and scans directly if you want to.
wait till rebels season 3 has ended for more information on Ben regarding his fight with Maul. then we can grasp his true potential in the force. furthermore, I don't believe that there is enough info to construct a full analysis in regards to Jolee's fighting style and force abilities. but of course I could be mistaken
Fantastically well done. I agreed with everything except the Force Round and the verdict. Ulic should have gotten the edge in the Force (you even built it up that way, then curiously said it was a draw), and with his superior power, Exar Kun would likely have at least slightly superior force aug. as well, mitigating the POSSIBLE advantage Mace has in dueling. So overall, Ulic>Mace.
***** Definitely. I completely agree with the verdicts. It's good to see another knowledgeable debater sharing my view on Ulic, a character I often feel is underrated.
I've always considered Mace Windu vs Exar Kun as very interesting, creator of Vaapad vs creator of saberstaff, two unique fighters. But this was also good.
I'd be interested to see old Ulic against an Imperial inquisitor. Maybe 2. Seeing as he was capable of defending against a powerful duelist without the force, it might go his way, but the inquisitors are apparently all force users, seem to be fairly skilled and often unconventional duelists. Might be good.
but the amulet is a weapon. shouldn't ulic be able to use? i mean you even said that if he was in a pinch he would resort to it. while battling someone who is clearly better in combat i feal he would use it to try to get an advantage
Ah, I remember this one from a while back. Glad you finally able to bring it to life and I enjoyed it a lot. :) So why do you think a lot of people over inflate the shatterpoint ability or that Vaapad can be used against any dark side force user? If that was the case then using say the anger of a being like the incredible hulk would have the same effect, right? Lol
Vaapad can be used against any dark sider. After surviving that duel with Palpatine,Mace would have figured out how Vaapad conjured up that amount of power to beat him.He is Vaapad's creator so he would have figured it out.As for Shatter Point he did use it against Sidious successfully as he did Vaapad. People seem to forget that Vaapad is a state of mind and once that mind set was achieved the super conducting loop was activated. The failure of these Windu and Vaapad haters is thinking it can't be replicated, news flash nay sayers it can as long as Mace enters certain state of mind.
+Rico Chico Malico Do you think you could do a video or give a shout out to the Twin Suns Foundation? TSF is a charity organization created by Star Wars fans to donate Star Wars books to public libraries all across the USA and to promote reading and writing all across the world. You can find them on facebook or at www.twin-suns.net. Any help on your part would be appreciated. Great vid and keep up the good work. MTFBWY
nice video I agree with the outcome as well as your point's and also,might I suggest a fight between kit fisto and Lucian Dray or Kasim vs Darth Maul and, cabn you please tell me the name of the music/soundtrack you used for your transitions to each of the categories
That would be a hell of a sight to watch these 2 engage blade to blade. Qel-Dromas one of my fav duelists in Star Wars, his Djem so strikes were only inferior to Anakin Skywalker and Darth Bane, and that’s about it.. He’s one of the top 20 swordsmen in Star Wars with ease. And then Mace’s skill with a blade doesn’t really need to be flaunted at all, he lets it do the talkin. I’d love to see this like on screen, in like cinematic form or somethin, like Kao Cen Darach & Malgus. We need more short films and “trailers” made like that.
Awesome work dude - my favorite Star Wars character of all time vs someone I could definitely learn more about. I definitely didn't realize how powerful Ulic actually was. Looking forward to the next one!
Could you ever use Anya kuro, Aayla secura, adi gallia, shaak ti, or depa billaba?
Happy to see this one as Ulic is a seriously underrated combatant. I see him more often placed with the likes of mid-tier Council members (Fisto, Tiin, Vos) circa the Clone Wars, but personally view him on par with Anakin, Obi Wan and Shaak Ti based on his performance against Exar Kun (at least as a swordsman).
I'm curious as to how he would fare against Corran Horn, another dedicated swordsman. Definitely agree that Mace would solidly win though, 8/10 at least. Great vid.
I think Ulic is directly on par, if not equal to Anakin Skywalker. I remember Jensaarai even stating in the Ulic Qel-Droma vs Kit Fisto video that Anakin and Ulic were comparable in almost any possible degree, with the anly difference being hubris vs blind rage
This was pretty good. Didn't know a lot about Uilq, and this video has definitely convinced me he'd be a challenging opponent for Mace. Still, glad one of my favorite Jedi triumphed once again. If I was to calculate his advantage over Uliq, I would say it is around 5.9/10 to 6.4/10. But this is more or less speculation on my part. Anyways, nice video as always. :)
Rico, well I finally got the time to watch this video. My negatives: I believe that Mace did once get his "super conductive loop" established before Sidious, when he fought Depa Billaba, but I may not be remembering right. I think you gave Mace an unfair advantage with not giving Ulic the advantage in non-Force assisted physicality. That being said, Mace is one of my all time favorite Jedi, and I do not disagree with the verdict in any case. Extremely well researched, and presented even better than that. You've set the bar high for yourself for the rest of your season, sir. Thank-you, Dante.
Windu’s vapaad is a dark side trump card and is extremely lethal against dark side wielders, he even defeated the most powerful Sith Lord ever to live
Interesting match-up. So do you consider the possibility of a future duel between Depa Billaba against Nomi Sunrider?
No problem.
Rico Chico Malico good vid
Dooku vs Exar kun
get ready cuz Antoine's gonna make that video (he said so somewhere)
(insert smiling emoji)
Logan Smith Nomi should win!!!!!!
Jaina Solo vs Ulic Qel Droma is one I like to see
redeemed ulic qel-droma (droma after the sever force incident) vs pre visla or count dooku vs darth malak would be awesome. love the vids man.
I'm impressed with your analysis of ulic in this video. I've always been of the mind that he was indeed quite powerful. like you said in the video, most youtubers aren't impressed with his force feats, but you gave credit where credit was due. cheers!
Awesome video Rico. I agree with everything you presented. In fact I do believe this is a rematch between Anakin Skywalker and mace Windu since Ulic is so comparable to Anakin on every level. the edges were given in each category just like Antoine did though. personally I still can't decide is Skywalker better or Qel-Droma better, but I definitely agree with this video. mayhap I say that this fight would have stong parallels between the fight between Skywalker and Windu. Still, awesome vid man! love you! nice to see you making videos again
I thought you knew Star Wars the more powerful the sith the better it was for windu
Thaattt eddiiitttiinnggg bbboooiii, plus your analysis wasn't too bad, no where as good as mine.
Good video, but there were several things you got wrong/missed for both characters.
First, Mace is canonically superior to Ulic, at least when he was a Jedi, as a lightsaber duelist, being proclaimed the second best duelist the Order had produced in its entire history, only surpassed by Yoda ( _The Official Starships and Vehicles Collection 48_ ). Unless you can provide some evidence Ulic grew so considerably as a Sith Lord as to completely negate this accolade, Mace is the winner by default. I find that rather unlikely, given that Mace was a superior duelist to Dooku as a Jedi, and even after the latter became a Sith Lord and improved his dueling skills even further ( _The Official Star Wars Fact File 68_ ), Mace still held the advantage (Nick Gillard).
Second is Mace Windu's use of Tutaminis. He has in fact displayed this power in his fight with Darth Sidious, using it to deflect his Force lightning ( _Revenge of the Sith script, Revenge of the Sith comic_ ). Given Sidious' power is so far beyond Ulic's it stops being funny, I find it rather unlikely he would manage to do Mace any harm when the latter can partially negate Sidious' Lightning.
Third is an accolade procaliming Mace the most powerful Jedi to have ever lived next to Yoda ( _Fact File 11_ ). You showed it briefly in your video but neglected to mention it, unless I missed something. This accolade marks him as a more powerful Force user than the likes of Revan reborn, who is casually ashing Dark Council members, and taking on teams of some very powerful and accomplished Force users by himself. Of course the accolade doesn't apply to Prime Ulic, and I don't think Revan's feats are outside of Ulic's scope of abilities at all, but the accolade is still worth mentioning.
Now stuff for Ulic:
You missed a particularly great strength feat, his best one in my opinion, when a team of Cay Qel-Droma, Qrrrl Toq, and another Jedi were struggling to hold Ulic down. This is so great because Toq has shown he can pin several men to a wall casually, and Cay has literally torn through droids with his bare hands. If they together struggle to hold Ulic down, then you can imagine just how strong Ulic is, and frankly I don't think Mace has anything comparable.
Second would be Ulic's accolade of being a Dark Lord of the Sith second only to Exar Kun ( _The Dark Side Sourcebook_ ). You, again, brought this up in your video but I don't think you truly understand what it means or how monumental it is. First, let's note that the quote is in no way restricted by era (aside from the future of course), nor by faction, and the statements preceding it make it clear this is a historical recounting, and would thus refer to all of history. This would mean Ulic is more powerful than the likes of Karness Muur, a peer of Vong-infested Darth Krayt. Krayt is the most powerful member of a Sith Order whose collective strength has cast a shadow over the Force, even deeper than the one produced by Darth Sidious during his time ( _Legacy Era Campaign Guide_ ); whose weakest members can manipulate massive satellites. While this doesn't make Krayt more powerful than Sidious, it is still extremely impressive that he manages to be the top dog in basically the strongest Sith Order in history, and scaling from his inferiors would indicate he can casually ragdoll humongous objects (you can find a picture of the satellite online) and damage lightsaber-resistant objects with his Force Lightning (Darth Wyyrlok III). And Ulic is even above that.
Overall, I'd still say Mace wins this due to him being able to block anything Ulic dishes at him Force-wise, and his factually superior dueling skills. It's an incredible fight, though.
***** No, I said I agree with the verdict. I merely provided you with some information you missed or didn't know about. I can also provide the quotes and scans directly if you want to.
This was a good start of the current season Rico
What's your opinion on ulics death I fell like it could have been better
Rico Chico Malico ya
Wow this matchup looks really cool
Can you do revan vs like revan vs quinlan vos or revan vs mace windu or revan vs hero of Tyson if they're anything info of hero of Tyson
can you do jolee bindo vs old ben kenobi?
thanks man
wait till rebels season 3 has ended for more information on Ben regarding his fight with Maul. then we can grasp his true potential in the force. furthermore, I don't believe that there is enough info to construct a full analysis in regards to Jolee's fighting style and force abilities. but of course I could be mistaken
@@RicoChicoMalico It's a shame that there's no definitive sources of what the kotor characters can do.
Fantastically well done. I agreed with everything except the Force Round and the verdict. Ulic should have gotten the edge in the Force (you even built it up that way, then curiously said it was a draw), and with his superior power, Exar Kun would likely have at least slightly superior force aug. as well, mitigating the POSSIBLE advantage Mace has in dueling. So overall, Ulic>Mace.
Been waiting for this one. Awesome video Rico.
***** Definitely. I completely agree with the verdicts. It's good to see another knowledgeable debater sharing my view on Ulic, a character I often feel is underrated.
Good video, I like this one
I've always considered Mace Windu vs Exar Kun as very interesting, creator of Vaapad vs creator of saberstaff, two unique fighters. But this was also good.
I'd be interested to see old Ulic against an Imperial inquisitor. Maybe 2. Seeing as he was capable of defending against a powerful duelist without the force, it might go his way, but the inquisitors are apparently all force users, seem to be fairly skilled and often unconventional duelists. Might be good.
but the amulet is a weapon. shouldn't ulic be able to use? i mean you even said that if he was in a pinch he would resort to it. while battling someone who is clearly better in combat i feal he would use it to try to get an advantage
how about the outlander(canon Knight guardian) vs Anakin Skywalker?
One on sylvar vs juhani cathar vs cathar would be interesing
Mace would win every time, but this was an extremely good video. :3
I wonder whether you would do a 4-way free-for-all, Darth Vader, Darth Bane, Darth Malgus and Darth Malak
For Bane, it should be his DoE iteration, forgot to mention
I like it how round 4 seemingly had an awesome entry but turned out to be a quick and minor round. it's kinda funny, if you get what I mean.
What's was the comic uliks is in That's shown in the video
did not expect that ending lol. I like Ulic wayyy more then Mace windu
Now that's a very good one!
Rico Chico Malico could you use Xanatos?
Rico Chico Malico I have a trailer for a Versus video!
Can you use Palpatine in his clone bodies?
Can you do a video about Maces different padawans?
I hope you will do it.
Thanks for responding:)
We don't have very much info on them, except for Depa.
Great video! What about Lord Hoth versus Darth Vader (maybe pre suit Vader) or Darth Malgus?
Rico Chico Malico no problem, keep up the great work mate!
Ah, I remember this one from a while back. Glad you finally able to bring it to life and I enjoyed it a lot. :)
So why do you think a lot of people over inflate the shatterpoint ability or that Vaapad can be used against any dark side force user? If that was the case then using say the anger of a being like the incredible hulk would have the same effect, right? Lol
Vaapad can be used against any dark sider.
After surviving that duel with Palpatine,Mace would have figured out how Vaapad conjured up that amount of power to beat him.He is Vaapad's creator so he would have figured it out.As for Shatter Point he did use it against Sidious successfully as he did Vaapad.
People seem to forget that Vaapad is a state of mind and once that mind set was achieved the super conducting loop was activated. The failure of these Windu and Vaapad haters is thinking it can't be replicated, news flash nay sayers it can as long as Mace enters certain state of mind.
Exar's and Ulic's sabers look very similar.
What's the music you have at 5:56
I like this one
Rico Chico Malico sure i always wondered who would win between them
hey do you know Antonio he is another versus series person.
Qui Gon Jinn vs Meetra Surik
I'm still wondering why nobody has ever elected Leia in her EU version for a VS video.
***** Mmm Might be the case. There are some Clone Wars Era characters she could be put against IMO
Windu cannot strike down Qel-Droma, it is not the Jedi way...
What’s the title of the music you are using?
Rico Chico Malico You are using the same song between segments. Where you are introducing the rounds. I love your videos, keep the good work up 🙂👌
Ben Kenobi vs Asajj Ventress.
Ventress annihilates Ben
anaqin ski malquer vs marca ragno
Mace wins easily. Ulic didn't impress me at all.
+Rico Chico Malico Do you think you could do a video or give a shout out to the Twin Suns Foundation? TSF is a charity organization created by Star Wars fans to donate Star Wars books to public libraries all across the USA and to promote reading and writing all across the world. You can find them on facebook or at www.twin-suns.net. Any help on your part would be appreciated. Great vid and keep up the good work. MTFBWY
Thank you and no problem Rico. If you could spread this around that would also be most appreciated. Keep up the good work.
Come back! Save us from the Jensaarai/EvanNova bias!
first.Yes
nice video I agree with the outcome as well as your point's and also,might I suggest a fight between kit fisto and Lucian Dray or Kasim vs Darth Maul and, cabn you please tell me the name of the music/soundtrack you used for your transitions to each of the categories
Thnx