Coring Bowl Blanks with the McNaughton Center Saver System
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
- The McNaughton Center Saver System utilizes a restraint yoke vs a tool rest. This offers lots of unique opportunities and reduces the limitations of hemispherical systems. Jack Graham demonstrates how to core with this system showing the unique techniques required to get great results.
Best video on the McNaughton system I found! Clear and logical instruction that is way better than the product's instruction sheet and includes tips and nuances that are overlooked in the manual and other videos. I credit this video with enabling me to core **without a problem** from my first try on.
Thank you.
very good demo. I use this system also, but I am also using a laser guide. Helps me find my curve line. Also, I have learned by experience that you need to keep your turret about an inch from the blank face. If too close, the tool won't remain "captured" on the turret. As opposed to the one-way where you get the guide as close as possible to the face of the blank.
You and your Son are the best teachers on the net. Thanks for showing us your talents.
What a pleasure to meet your cool dad! A lot of kids today don't even have a dad let alone one that is a hands on kind of guy. I lost mine in 2003. Don't miss an opportunity to tell him you love him. Thanks men! Don
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Very useful video. Ive watched hundreds of turning videos in the last few years and this is one of the very few demonstrating coring. Worththeeffort always helps me price and plan and coring is something that I think not only keeps pricing down but also means not wasting the precious wood as it gets more scarce. Father-son turning ? How fantastic! ♥
Well, you showed me one new trick I should have thought of, but never did.... Love the trick of laying out your planned bowl depths and then using the blade to lay out the kerf on the side of your bowl. I will have to try that one out.
One thing I do different is that I prefer the cutter to be above center height. Standard for turning out the inside of a bowl is to have your tools slightly above center, which means that if you have a catch, the tool will fall out of the cut, where if you have it below center, especially with scrapers, they will dig in deeper. This really helps when cutting hear the bottom of the bowl. If you have ever tried to remove that nub in the center with the McNaughton, when extended out full length on the bigger blades, because of the flex that is designed into the system, you can be considerably below center.
Ever notice that the last maybe 2 inches of the blade, near the cutting tip tends to go straight rather than follow the curve of the blade?
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@@wortheffort I will be sharing this one with our club...
That was an EXCELLENT educational video. Well explained and demonstrated. It’s great to see a Father and Son collaboration on a project/ video. Thanks again and hi from 🇨🇦
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Your dad is a good instructor, thoroughly enjoyed this vlog. 👍👍
What a lovely man your Dad is and a true maker and teacher.
Awe come on.... his ego is big enough already.
wortheffort lol
Fantastic loved this video and it was awesome to see your dad great work a massive 👍 for your dad and omg some of the tools your dad has on his walls amazed me I was in ore
This was like a breath of fresh air to see you and your dad was really great like the time you both went to cut down that tree and you turned a bowl in the same day
Mate now I have just fell back in love with this channel again I feel like it's a brand new start again
And now I see where you get your passion for wood working and turning from
That Apple didn't fall to far from that tree did it lol
👍👍👍👍👍❤️👍👍👍👍❤️and so close to 25k I'm gunna share this lets get you to 25k
WOW, great video, I love the way you and your dad explain what you are doing and why. Lovely piece of Elm. Thanks for sharing
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Excellent video, thank you so much for sharing I really appreciate it. I've just recently bought the McNaughton system and was having a bit of trouble with it till I saw your video, it's really helped. You have a fantastic channel, keep up the good work.
Thank you very much for a most concise and useful demonstration. I have this tool, and am inspired to try more because of your video.
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Please give your dad my thanks for doing this. Great video and very educational. I also love the shop. It looks very well set up and organized. I’d love to see a tour of his shop
You saw the whole thing in the video other than a closet (with lots of junk) and an dust collector.
That's a really cool system; so much of "regular" bowl making on a lathe involves incredible amounts of wasted wood....
Excellent presentation. Thank you You have obvious mad skills. 👏
That is special a father and son working together.
Nah, we annoy each other....
Way to go Dad! I enjoyed the video. Worth mentioning that the first blades had a square tip, later Mel changed it to the diamond shape. I believe he changed it because the diamond cuts better. Most I gotten so far is 4 blanks with mine. My friend Andy Cole gets up to 7!! Keep up the good work. Aloha from Hawaii.
Great video and look forward to seeing your dad again. People are saying about practice but the cost of materials must be huge.
Grab a chainsaw, you'll find wood everywhere for free. Ya just gotta be ready to go get it. Turn green and let dry.
Really enjoyed it, thanks for sharing your Dad's approach. Would love a shop tour as well.
John Fisher yeah I agree I would love to see his dad's shop I was in ore of what I saw just on his walls 👍
Thanks Shawn and Jack, excellent video. While the McNaughton system does require some practice and cut planning, I really do like it's flexibility.
I had a chance to use this coring system on cherry with Mike Mahoney. Your dad did a great job of explaining and it was nice to have a side-by-side comparison between the two videos.
That’s insane! Wow. And this the first video I’ve seen your dad in. I’m fairly new sub. He’s so much like you. Thank you for all you do. I’m a very new turner and found your channel and love your videos. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
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This was excellent. It really was a big help to me. Thank you very much!!
I really enjoyed this episode. My dad was a skilled woodworker too. Compared to him, I'm still the novice 😊
Very well done! Good teaching!
I love ❤️ it, so little waste. Thank you for showing us this dad 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Your dad is a master. Love his techniques. Cheers
You're giving him a big head.
More Dad! Thanks Shawn.
This has been very informative. I'v used the McNaughton system on a Sears tube type lathe and now on a Delta. What still baffles me is the speed I am supposed to use. Generally, I use what I feel is right...but is faster better? Usually, I am coring wet wood...the shaving have a tendency to get stuck in the knife path, then it bogs down. Thanks again..
Brilliant Video, thanks for sharing. ☺︎
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Ok, no wonder you are a wood turning jedi when your dad is a wood turning Joda! I love it!
I make him look better in post.
Show de ferramenta parabéns amigão
Will a system like this work well on a glued up blank made from say 14x14 3/4 hard maple ? I read that the coring system is best used on semi wet wood. What do you think?
I wouldn’t want to core dried wood.
You looks a lot like your Dad. Very striking resemblance. Nice video.
I thought he looked like me.
Enjoyable and informative. Thanks!
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Robust American Beauty...there is no substitute. Kudos guys, good video.
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Great video, Thank you. Q. was the same blade used for the smallest bowl as the largest?? Could not tell. Thanks
Very good, informative video. Thanks!
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Your dad is a great teacher as well.
Awesome !! Thank You so much for sharing your experience and knowledge !!
What speed do you run
I have the mcnaughton system but suck at it
I have a grizzly G0766 but I get more catches that I do cutting
For me, I initially turn it as fast of a speed as I can feel comfortable. I do keep my speed control close at hand to adjust, usually slowing it down a little. I do slow it down when I feel I am reaching the bottom so that I will not pop out the inside blank. Also at the slower speed toward the end, you can feel and see better when you are getting close then stop and pop the blank out with a mallet strike.
Parabéns amigo excelente ferramenta pena que não temos no Brasil mas vou desenvolver uma um grande abraço 🇧🇷
A great comparison of tools for coring I think I would prefer the other tool myself it looks safer.
Is this system designed to cut blanks from green wood only?
16:37 he says that tool gate "will move alittle bit". But at 16:50 he says he can move it on over, and the tool gate clearly rotates freely. Was that supposed to happen or was he just acting out how the tool guide 'captive part' he was describing rotates with the path of the cut?
How does your dad like that Robust American Beauty lathe? That's a LOT of money for a lathe, but it looks like it's a good one. Does he have it bolted to the floor for stability, or is it just so heavy it doesn't vibrate no matter how big a piece of wood you throw at it?
Robust has spoiled dad. Some people buy boats in retirement. Dad got a nice lathe. How many times in your life do you get the opportunity to buy the equivalent of a Bugatti? Cheap entertainment.....
Very well explained
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this was great, I'm really glad I watched it! One thing from the one way video... are you pulling the tool out and cleaning off shavings as frequently with this system? I may have missed a mention of it, but it wasn't as noticeable as on the other video.
I found I did not have to pull the tool out as often as when I was using the Oneway. Jack
Jesus, you guys are so similar. Thanks for the awesome video.
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6:50 best part of the whole video
3HP and it still bogs down -- is the Oneway better suited to a less powerful lathe or are they about the same in that respect? I wondered if maybe the Oneway makes a smaller kerf.
Oneway does make a smaller kerf and I'm a lot less aggressive in my video than he was here because of the HP difference but either way, coring is a high torque activity that sucks up the HP.
Question: McNaughton has 4 sets of tools, jumbo, standard, mini and micro. Which tool from which set were you using? Excellent explanation - well done.
I was using the jumbo set to do the coring. These fit in the largest of the four slots on the captured tool rest. I have the whole or or parts of the other sets . The jumbo set was the one that allowed me to reach all the way through the 18" blank. The standard set of tools would likely have also worked.
Buenas donde puedo conseguir esa herramienta
Does anyone know if the two tool gates should be perpendicular to the lathes center axis, or do the two poles need to be slighty angled inward towards the lathes center axis? My cut keeps drifting away, even when I visually follow the path out of the bowl from the top like Sean's Dad does... The bottom of the bowl is always much thinner the the rim.
Nick, If I understand your question you are referencing the two poles on the McNaughton tool rest which the tool slides between when cutting. For my use the angle of the two poles to the lathe center axis varies throughout the cut. I start as such an angle that the tool is entering the wood parallel to the lathe center axis, ( I often start with a straight a tool and cut a hole an inch deep and wider than tool width before I use the curved tool.) With the curved tools I vary the angle by how close the tool rest is to the piece and how far away the tool rest is from the center line of the lathe axis. The controlling factor is to keep the tool as it enters the wood to be centered in the hole or slightly toward the outside edge of hole so as to provide leverage to keep the tool cutting point moving along the desired path. This requires frequent checking to make sure the tool point is not diverging in or out from the desired tool path. I have gotten a thin bottom by keeping the tool rest to much in the same space and not moving its center further away from the lathe axis center line. Hope this helps.
@@TheWesttexasboy the last part sounds like you loose the banjo, slide it further perpendicularly away the lathe center axis. the deeper you get in the bowl, I would assume the more you recenter the banjo further away... I am guessing about 1/16 to and 1/8 of perpendicular movement to the lathe center axis
@@eclear4evr that sounds like a accurate description
@@TheWesttexasboy thanks! I will try this. I also have not been cutting a hole first. The kit I got (combo kit from craft supplies) doesn't come with the straight cutters). I was using a 1/2 scrapper to cut the initial hole, but only went it like 1/8 of an inch until the lines on the 3/8 inch gap Disappeared. I can see now that I have to plan a 1/2" gap and try cutting in about an inch and start my coring cuts with the tool parallel to the axis center line, or the slightly out of parallel with the tool handle being further away from the center line axis of the lathe, and the cutting edge being closer to the center line axis.
You are also recommending every so often, loosen the banjo, attempt to slide the banjo a very small amount (1/16" to 1/8") away from the center line axis in an attempt to get the cutting edge to stop drifting away as it moves toward center.
Thank you!
Muito bom parabéns uma ferramenta maravilhosa gostaria de adquirir uma!
I'm thinking your channel will start to get your dad involved.... great video my friend, thanks to you both 👍🏼😊
Ya, but then I'd have to pay him.
wortheffort nah, he'll do it for the love 😉
Worth the money! We want more of dad! lol
Thanks so much for sharing.
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Your dad sounds like bob barker. “Bob Barker gives Woodturning advise” new title
I was wondering how you put a tenon on the cut out bowl. Now my question is since you turned the bowl around to put a tenon on it could you have left it there and start coring the next one?
No, it get's imbalanced and dangerous if it broke out. Best to remove it.
Thanks for the reply.
Where can i buy the tools and tool holders used here?
see description
Excellent!!!!
Shew that's a nice piece of wood
Don't mind me asking, but, out of curiosity, where is this accent from? I am not a native English speaker...
+grovitch west Texas
No wonder I enjoyed the video, I love Texas!
I hate to admit it but this scares the shit out of me. What if that tool were to catch?
If you're not a production bowl turner I wouldn't worry about it much and just turn em one at a time like most.
@@wortheffort yeah my lathe could never make bowls that big anyway
Whew that's a nice piece of wood
Where do you get all your wood turning chizels jiggs
Just search the title of the video and you'll find places that sell them.
Wow..... fantastic.
Aren't 12" lathes the most common
AWESOME ! G B THANX
How often do you plant a tree, sir?
I have a vast army of squirrels in retainer to handle that for me.
What are you asking Jr.? Is it an honest question or are you making a statement about a woodworker's medium?
The genes are strong in this family.
Nah, they're Levi's and since they went overseas they don't last as long.
I'm going to Walmart and get me one of these babies.
Мудрено.
Really enjoyed the video. You can tell you're your Dad's kid. Chip off the Old Block!
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Pronounced "knock-ton" = Naughton in Ireland
Thanks dad. Nice Robust!
Are you looking to adopt a daughter?
When you see the next video I upload he just might. Look for it tomorrow morning.
@@wortheffort That guys stole your gloves too. Rude!
Are you sure that's your Dad, not you in disguise? Why weren't you guys on camera together (i.e. Superman and Clark Kent)?
Dude, Superman and Clark Kent can never be in the same room. I am Superman in this analogy right?
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chaos?
it's curious how the English have this habit of making sentences.
fragments and run-on's but sentences all the less.
I have one grab your ass this thing will catch and scare the hell out of you my woodcraft bowl saver is much safer. The best is Oneway bowl saver.
The learning curve is very dangerous, you will wish you had never purchased it.
He's been using it for almost 5 years. Don't know what you are talking about.