This is gold! Just created that patch and laid it down on a track - with the poly unison feature which I didn’t know existed. So happy right now. Thank you!!!
OH KILLER! Glad you did this, my good man. While I know these principles, I found this video enlightening because it was a clue into how you think, as a patch designer I respect. Thanks for doing it. Patch design is an art and it's interesting to hear an artists words as they work.
Cheers. It definitely is “how I think” on the spot when making sounds. I didn’t rehearse the sound before hand just did what I usually do when I make this kind of pwm patch
@@INHALTVIDEO im in la. i love how matter of fact you approached this video and how you explained things. i just picked up a p10 from perfect circuit and finding all the videos i can on this synth. i hope you do more of these tips on this synth at some point. would be honored to meet you and pick your brain on using the p10 if things were not so wacky now...
@@station2station544 I don‘t quite get it. What‘s the difference to an ordinary layered patch? On my OB-6 the chorus helps a lot, maybe not quite as sophisticated.
@@RayyMusik Gotcha. So what PolyUnison does is it reduces the polyphony on a Prophet 10 from 10 voices down to 5. Then it duplicates the 5 voices you already have in play creating a "4 oscillator per voice" sound instead of "2 per voice". (on a vintage prophet 5 there are 2 OSC per voice). The result is a thicker stacked effect. You asked about how it's different than layering? In theory it isn't different, but you'd have to layer the identical patch on top of itself through some trickery. This is a fast way to do that. One benefit to the PU mode is that when you're using PolyMod, you can get some more exciting results because there are 10 oscillators (5 voices x2) from section B, modulating section A's 10 oscillators. It's a big sound.
@@station2station544 Thank you so much. :) However, I don’t find layering tricky. On my Rev 2 I just copy layer A to B and detune one of those by a small amount - or a fifth/octave.
Great example! You can also do this with 2 oscillators on the OB8 being pulse width modulated with the LFO tracking functionality. It’s too bad the prophets only have a mono out!
Also in the OB8,you can in invert the LFO on oscillator 1 for pulse width and fm in addition to voice detune, which gives it even more organic goodness. It’s really beautiful!
I always wanted a Prophet 5 or 10 someday. I have factory patches on my Six Trak that sound as good as the patch you just created. You may have to use midi and a keyboard controller to fully unleash that beast in front of you. Your only touching the tip of the iceberg.
This is gold! Just created that patch and laid it down on a track - with the poly unison feature which I didn’t know existed. So happy right now. Thank you!!!
OH KILLER! Glad you did this, my good man. While I know these principles, I found this video enlightening because it was a clue into how you think, as a patch designer I respect. Thanks for doing it. Patch design is an art and it's interesting to hear an artists words as they work.
Cheers. It definitely is “how I think” on the spot when making sounds. I didn’t rehearse the sound before hand just did what I usually do when I make this kind of pwm patch
@@INHALTVIDEO im in la. i love how matter of fact you approached this video and how you explained things. i just picked up a p10 from perfect circuit and finding all the videos i can on this synth. i hope you do more of these tips on this synth at some point. would be honored to meet you and pick your brain on using the p10 if things were not so wacky now...
Perfectly explained. Can be applied to the OB-6 as well (except that dual unison (?) mode, of course).
PolyUnison. Yes you're right not being a thing on the OB6 because you need 10 voices (10 VCO pairs). Such a great thing Sequential added.
@@station2station544 my most used feature on the p10
@@station2station544 I don‘t quite get it. What‘s the difference to an ordinary layered patch?
On my OB-6 the chorus helps a lot, maybe not quite as sophisticated.
@@RayyMusik Gotcha. So what PolyUnison does is it reduces the polyphony on a Prophet 10 from 10 voices down to 5. Then it duplicates the 5 voices you already have in play creating a "4 oscillator per voice" sound instead of "2 per voice". (on a vintage prophet 5 there are 2 OSC per voice). The result is a thicker stacked effect. You asked about how it's different than layering? In theory it isn't different, but you'd have to layer the identical patch on top of itself through some trickery. This is a fast way to do that. One benefit to the PU mode is that when you're using PolyMod, you can get some more exciting results because there are 10 oscillators (5 voices x2) from section B, modulating section A's 10 oscillators. It's a big sound.
@@station2station544 Thank you so much. :)
However, I don’t find layering tricky. On my Rev 2 I just copy layer A to B and detune one of those by a small amount - or a fifth/octave.
Awesome video.
That was great! Love your Hydrasynth patches, btw.
Thank you!
Amazing. What a sound!
How about tricks for the Prophet X
Great example! You can also do this with 2 oscillators on the OB8 being pulse width modulated with the LFO tracking functionality. It’s too bad the prophets only have a mono out!
Also in the OB8,you can in invert the LFO on oscillator 1 for pulse width and fm in addition to voice detune, which gives it even more organic goodness. It’s really beautiful!
Indeed you can and I used that on my old ob8 quiet a bit
The mono out bugs some people but seriously, it doesn’t make a difference to me. All I do after recording the patch in is add FX to the sound. Simple
yup! i love the ol' mono out... it's the way we used to work and, as you said, there's no shortage of sound-shaping devices after-the-fact...
Whoa polyphonic unison? Why have I never tried that on my P10? Ya learn something new everyday I spose :)
DItto. I think most of the material I've seen out there is for P5/P10 so I never knew the P10 had these additional features.
Nice. Thank you
i gave that pitch vibrato .. pitches love vibrato..
i see what you did there. well played.
why do this thing sound so good?
wish my p6 could do poly unison detune!
@ghost mall so true
I always wanted a Prophet 5 or 10 someday. I have factory patches on my Six Trak that sound as good as the patch you just created.
You may have to use midi and a keyboard controller to fully unleash that beast in front of you. Your only touching the tip of the iceberg.