The Soldiers STILL Fighting After WW2 Ended Into The 1950s
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- Опубліковано 11 кві 2024
- Hiroshima and Nagasaki each had an Atomic bomb dropped on them, forcing the formal Japanese surrender on 15th August announced by Emperor Hirohito, and two weeks later, on September 2nd, the war was officially over .
Despite hostilities finally ending, it seems that not everyone got the message. Some Japanese soldiers held out into the 1950s, 60s, and 70s for a mixture of reasons. Some had been sent to remote Pacific islands and communication had been lost with the outside world so they missed the broadcasts that the war had ended. Others doubted the legitimacy of Japan’s surrender, and others still just refused to believe it was all over.
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Script: Tash Martell
Narrator: Chris Kane (vocalforge.com)
The fact that the soldiers still kept fighting decades later just shows you how seriously they took not surrendering
Since surrender is Disrespecting your fighting spirit and dishonor your emperor
So they were the og taliban?
I@@alejandroguevara2212 indeed
@@alejandroguevara2212 this kind of behavior goes back thousands of years before the Taliban existed
Ever since war has existed, there’s always been soldiers who fight to the death even to a suicidal degree.
They were just rogue soldiers who often committed theft or armed robbery against local population. Sometimes they fought with local police sent to arrest them. They were menaces, rather than heroes.
Geez, so the end of WW2, the Korean war and the US involvement in the Vietnam war did the final Japanese imperial soldiers surrender
2 other US involved conflicts in the pacific started and ended by the time they surrendered lol
That's interesting and sad as well
there were some Japanese holdouts that fought in some of the pacific wars
@@saccorhytus”WTF they are coming from all sides !!!!”
@@lo0nyt0onz More sad than interesting, wtf is with the US involvement in those years after the war. Complete waste of resources and lives
1:33 References scene from The Pacific.
Yep, i caught that too
I noticed too. Even position of the beach is spot on too! And the Japanese soldier arm movements before going out with a bang unfortunately taking the medics with him
great show
I only knew the one story about one Japanese soldier they found hiding in the Philippine islands. I and others never knew about those other ones were hiding as well. Great history lesson about WW II. Good video.👍
fun fact: they turned what used to be his hiding grounds into a sort of tourist attraction called "onoda trails"
that one japanese soldier - who was it?
Must’ve pissed off the local residents when he was pardoned by the president of the Philippines at the times, Ferdinand Marcos, upon being found and going back to Japan despite killing some of their friends and family who were unlucky enough to cross paths with him when he went out to hunt or steal food and supplies.
His name was Hiroo Onoda. He didnt surrender until 1974.
Fun fact: Some Japanese soldiers fought in post-WW2 battles such as Chinese Civil War and Korean War. Some also joined independence movements in Southeast Asia like Malayan Emergency and Indonesian War of Independence. Although they weren't considered as Japanese holdouts.
Weren't some of them who joined Ho Chi Min became command officers of Viet Minh and helped engineered the Siege of Dien Bien Fu?
And if some joined Indonesian rebels, now I can see why they flew leftover Hayabusa fighters and Betty bombers against Dutch garrisons.
How many Japanese soldiers took part in Malaya Emergency?
@@thanakonpraepanich4284 Then I'll take some known Japanese personnel as an example:
Major Sei Igawa and Takuo Ishii volunteered as part of Viet Minh staff officer and commander. They were killed in action while fought against the French.
Navy Lieutenant Hideo Horiguchi volunteered as part of Indonesian volunteer Army Lieutenant Colonel. He was captured by Dutch soldiers and his wounds were treated by them.
As for the Malayan Emergency, it is known that at least 200-400 former IJA troops fought in the war.
@@thanakonpraepanich4284 there are 3000 Japanese soldier joined in Revolution war of Indonesia. Half left only after the war. They are grouped in PGI (Pasukan Gerilya Istimewa) or Especial Guerilla Forces under Indonesian National Army
I swear I remember reading somehere that the largest one was an army based in china that got cut off as the war ended. Like 10K strong for a tad but idk I can’t find any info on it not.
@@fadhillaramadhan2327 pertanyaan? Berapa banyak dari mereka yang selamat sesudah perang usai? Konon katanya banyak sekali yang tewas dan cuma beberapa (sekitar dibawah 100 orang) yang selamat usai perang.
My Grandfather was stationed on Guam in 1946. He and his buddies captured two Japanese holdouts. Apparently they had been surviving by raiding supply depots. Since my Grandfather was in supply, I'm guessing they caught them during one of their raids.
Did they believe that Japan surrender
@@EternalEmperorofZakuul Probably not. They are stuck on the island with no contact with the outside world. The Japanese wouldn't listen to any Allied news of surrender, declaring it propaganda. Surrendering went against their orders.
I would bring this up that, my Grandfather would eventually be stationed in Japan itself and would meet, and marry, a Japanese woman. They would spend the rest of their lives together. Grandma served in the Japanese Red Cross during the war. She witnessed the Doolittle Raid and was sent to Singapore in 1943, and spent the rest of the war there.
Around the same time Grandpa captured the holdouts, Grandma was a POW in Malaya at the hands of the Aussies and British, who she considered gentlemen. Grandma told stories of how the sentries would salute her, as nurses are regarded as officers-even though Grandma was civilian. The British officers would hold the doors open to her, and say, "Good morning, Ms. Mogami."
When it came to her surrendering, it wasn't a problem for her and the other nurses. Possibly due to them being civilians and not military, even though they served the Imperial Japanese Army as a hospital in Singapore. When surrender was announced, Grandma and her comrades didn't try to end their lives, nor fear shame. They just accepted it.
When Grandma returned home, to find a devestated Japan, Grandma wasn't angry. She wasn't upset about the atomic bombs, either. When it came the ware as a whole, Grandma would just say, "It was war."
Then five minutes later she would forget about everything and say, "Let's go shopping!"
Learned about this by watching "Gilligan's Island"
Yeah I remember the Japanese sailor who didn’t know the war is over.
Me too
You're old, I learned this by watching "The Six Million Dollar Man"
@@DD-vn2ev 😂
@@DD-vn2ev Steve Austin
That poor lady
I know, right!? 😮
She could have become a queen by telling them “if you want me then you do what I say or I will kill myself” or something like that. 😂
But yeah absolutely it’s sad
Yeah that's bs what happened to her. So unjust
@@stargazer-eliteyeah she's a Japanese High Value Queen back when most women where trustworthy
I knew that story 3 years ago like in 2021
this is why, in the Philippines during the 80's up to the early 2000's, there were comedic sketches of Japanese soldiers still hiding out in our jungles, with clothes in tatters. Imagine holding on for nearly 30 years before being captured after the war, that's dedication.
あなたが言うこの「クソ投稿」とは何ですか？これはアメリカのプロパガンダの一種でしょうか？
1:19 bro just middle fingered the Americans😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Bro pulled out the blade specialist
I love how the Japanese soldier just casually flipped off Americans at 1:19
This accounts for those who were eventually captured or surrendered well after the war but there were probably a lot who were never discovered and simply died out there taking their stories with them to the grave
What's wild is that the last Japanese holdouts weren't found until the 1970s!
1:25 reminds me of the scene in The Pacific, morning after the nighttime skirmish at alligator creek It’s amazing how the animation continues to get better and better as time goes by and the animation team keeps doing their thing ❤
I still wouldn’t be surprised if there 90 year old Japanese soldiers still hiding out
😂
Okinawans are some of the most long-lived people in the world, so it’s entirely possible that one of them in his 90s or even 100s is still out there.
I love the "The Pacific" reference @1:32 when the Japanese soldier shouted "Tennō Heika Banzai!" before the grenade exploded killing the medics.
The Pacific is so good. I’ll never forget when my dad rented from library and brought it up north to our cabin with us back 2011-12 around that time it. Watched it every day while taking a break from Fishing. I realized damn this is a 10 hour long movie essentially ❤
30 Japanese soldiers: "We will never surrender. We are holding out!"
30 Japanese soldiers to Kazuko: "Woman, you need to surrender to us!"
Kazuko: "I'm holding out too."
These are the best videos, an great way 2 learn about history
Love your videos
Good video.
It's nice to see Onoda again here in the series.
Other than what’s written about him nobody today would know a thing about him.
That's nothing. Like we all heard there was a guy who didn't even quit until the 70s.
Yeah, that was Hiro Onoda, whose story was detailed in this video
That’s the first story. After the rest of group either got killed or had surrendered, it took a Japanese reporter to convince Onoda that the war is over in the 70’s. Lt. Onoda is a Kempeitai, a political officer of Japan, the equivalent of the SS of Germany, so you can tell he’s totally fanatical about the war.
1:18 blud use middle finger💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
Death before dishonor
There is no honor in death.
There is honor in death and humility
It's the Ring of Honor PPV
Right the Japanese are real honorable just ask all the women and children the Japanese raped and murdered.
Don't glorify fanaticism.
Say what you want about them, they got balls for fighting in a war for DECADES. Normal soldiers would just try to finish the war as soon as possible.
To be fair, I don't think a lot of people like to hear or see hundreds of thousands of soldiers and civilians dying. Japan is a tough player in the game but really the ideology has been like that for thousands of years
But when combined with fanaticism...
And also a lack of braincells continuing a pointless fight against an enemy thats just going to give you a bunch of money and go home.
Its foolishness. Anyone can be this dogmatic, we aee just animals with a weak and predictable mind. You commending this animalistic behaviour shows your ignorance.
@@treett4268 sounds edgy ngl
you could say that these men were WAY too loyal to admit defeat, loyalty is good, but there is no shame in admitting defeat and facing facts
Their entire cultire revolved around things like loyalty, honor, and integrity. And when you grow up being told that it's better to go down swinging then throwing in the towel, then yeah they'll go till they can't. So yes to them, there couldn't be much that was more shameful then exactly that dude.
Seeing a nuclear bomb, that's easy to say. In the 1940s, that would literally be like a dragon the size of New Zealand effortlessly breathing a fireball onto your city. You can't really fight it, and you know it, but that's literally never a threat until you see it happen. Before you see it, you aren't quick to surrender, and aren't quick to believe a city sized explosion
It was in their culture. "Admitting defeat" was a grave dishonor not only on yourself but on your family. And to the Japanese honor was everything
Ferdinand Marcos Sr. later granted Lt. Hiroo Onoda a presidential pardon... And it happened at the height of the Martial Law...
I really loved this video, well done Simple History. This video seamlessly explained how fanatical the Imperial Japanese soldiers really were and how they preferred to perish than surrendering and the story of that poor woman really pained me because she got shunned for something that was out of her control. Thank you Simple History for giving us such invaluable content.
This is a testament to how ingrained the code of non-surrender really was in the average Japanese soldier. It was something so unthinkable, that they just refused to believe it.
I wish there was a movie on this.
You should do some more podcasts!
Little video suggestion, can you make a video about the Battle of Mogadishu?
Did the soldier at 1:15 flip off the enemy before his kamikaze!?😂
Let’s get this guy to 10MILLION 🎉
There's a Bob Newhart sketch The Hold Out Huns that turns it around a bit.
This sounds like a cool video
I’ve Heard about Lieutenant Hiro Onoda, but I’ve Never heard Any of these Stories before😮
Hiro's story is the most famous of the stories
@@Slenderslayer351 One story? There's another of more of them.
@@jamesedwardladislazerrudo1378 I said his is the most known out of the others
@@Slenderslayer351 Dude Japanese soldiers not only from hiding they also supported the guerrillas after world war 2.
I think those japanese soldiers were kinda dumb if they thought a war could last that long
Iwo Jima’s last remaining Japanese were never even mentioned in this.
I remember the one holdout was mentioned in the book “the Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck”
Yup, Lt. Onoda. The guy who found him , Norio Suzuk, was also discussed there.
There was also Shoichi Yokoi’s story omitted
Now let's talk about the last forces of Spain surrendered to the Americans in the Philippines.
Yea I remember that episode on Archer 👍🇺🇸
1:32 You forgot the Tenno Heika Banzai sound effect
Such loyalty and courage.
lol I guess.
They used suicide tactics to expand their land, and not defend it. That’s desperation and not honor.
Nothing compared to the samurais.
So this is the irl inspiration of 4th mission from Metal Slug 3
Yes, the Japanese troops running tanks and warplanes manually like toys!
A Japanese man was hiding in Guam and he was discovered in January 24 1972
Now i see where star wars got the imperial remnants idea from
And the Clone loyalty to the republic
Thats crazy I knew of some but not that many! Wow don't see dedication like that these days!
I wonder how many soldiers are still stranded on the islands at pacific not knowing the war is over
Zero…
7:27 that was not "police" in the Philippines back then, it was the Philippine Constabulary which is part of the Armed Forces instead of a more civilian security and crime prevention force.
can you please
do a topic about easter rising 1916
Can you make a video about the battle of avdiivka
I remember reading a book about holdout on Iwo Jima after the battle and the war and it was brutal. I remember one acount of an officer abd 3 men murdering one of their own soldiers just because his canteen had water in it.
Another account was of a group that regularly snuck into a stole from a national guard occupation and how much he loved coco cola after drinking it the first time.
At least we know the very last thing that went through Hitler's mind...a .32ACP 😂
How did Germany got ahold of American 32acp back then?
@JohnFleming-sw7hn .32ACP was THE go to pistol calibre of many European countries up to WW2. Many European police used .32ACP pistols up to the 80's.
The WW1 French ' Ruby ' pistols and Browning 1900s are 2 famous examples.
Spain even made .32ACP revolvers
@@JohnFleming-sw7hnDude everybody used .32 ACP, even James Bond.
This makes it more understandable how the Japanese high command seriously thought it could fight on even when the Americans demonstrated they now had a weapon of almost supernatural power in the atomic bomb.
This should be a movie.
😂That Japanese gave a middle finger.
Bob Newhart had a standup routine about two Wermacht soldiers in the Black Forest who didn't know the War was over...!
At least Archer was able to rehabilitate one
Let’s go simple history
Damn, those Japanese simply REFUSE to give up...
Cant believe a few imperial japanese were still going at it when the tomcat was in development.
If they are searching for them why were they killing them?
Hiroo Onoda was last Japanese soldier to surrender in March 9th 1974. He was second lieutenant and on March 11th 1974. He give his sword to Filipin president.
Could this voice be the voice of Snake from Metal Gear?
In amine battles they're always like "we must fight to the end and never give up!" I just roll my eyes thinking about the Japnese soldiers in WW2
Made In Japan quality
Immense valor and discipline
so what do you think happened to him?
One thing that doesn't get mentioned here is that Hirohito's surrender address to the Japanese people wasn't fully understood by the general population at the time because Hirohito spoke an older form of Japanese. It would be like the U.S President giving a speech in Middle English.
You should cover the topic about the Battle of Yultong where 900 Filipino soldiers hold their position as they fought against 40,000 Chinese soldiers during the Korean War.
My country was terrorized by these soldiers but I respect their will and courage to continue on
Can you make a video about the polish fleeing from Poland when Germany and USSR was invading
dont do this person's idea
@@DumbEpicGaming ...& why?
@@Rob.DB. cuz ye
I know it sounds weird but dose anyone know the name of the amphibious tank at 6:34 ?
Just shows how an ideology of never surrendering and far away from everyone else can easily cause someone to never surrender and to keep fighting a lost cause all in the name of the Emperor
Marx wasnt an emperor silly... Oh, you meant the Japs.. yea they were pretty fanatical and prone to unhinged things by western standards.
One of the hold outs went home for like 6-months then went back to where he was hiding.
Fun fact some random island nation pardons a guy who fought till 1974 up until that point who thought that Japan was still fighting the war. I believe from 1945 until 1974 he only killed like 20 people and that random Island Nation ended up pardoning him for that because he was confused.
That's Hiro Onoda
Also it's Philippines not random island nation.
Random Island 😭
ONLY killed 20 people? Even if it was over the course of close to 3 decades, that was still 20 too many.
@@nowthatsjustducky they pardon him because Japan had an honor system that still kind of is going on today. The honor system they used was never surrender. He was given orders from his commanding officer that he was never to surrender so for 30 years after world war II ended he continued to believe fighting for the emperor even though the war was over. They parted him for the fact that he believed he was still fighting. There is a major psychological study done after world war II about people following orders. If somebody in a professional manner told you to shock somebody you would do it because you would believe them and you wouldn't be at fault for committing the shocking. Based off that study people no longer hated the Nazis because the German army had no part in what the Nazis did they were just following orders to round up Jews. Same thing with Japan. But now what's going on in Japan is because they lost their honor by losing world war II, they have punished their entire descendants. Japanese girls have low self-esteem so by Western standards they're gorgeous but to them they are not because of what Japan society is. Same thing with the men if you make a mistake at work they will re-educate you for 3 Days to ensure you do not screw up mistakes in Japanese culture are not okay for some reason nowadays. The only reason why I know this is because seconds from disaster did an episode of a train crash in Japan and it explained the re-education that went on
I personally met Mr. Hiroo Onoda, I'm Brazilian and I dated a Japanese woman called Hirome for 7 years, and her father is a war veteran from Imperial Japan, so Mr. Onoda was introduced to me at a Bon Odori Festival, here in my city, I live in Araçatuba SP, 150 km from where Mr. Onoda owned a rural property in mid-2012, where he trained students in jungle survival courses.
Yeah i would be like that.Never surrender!
Then you're a gullible fool
There have Hiroo Onoda story at first.
In all likelihood some holdouts may never have been captured and lived the rest of their lives in the jungle before either the jungle killed them or old age.
Imagine yourself as a soldier eager for victory, especially since you see your empire close to great hegemony Despite losing some battles. Of course, you will not believe the idea of its surrender, and you may sometimes think that it is a trick of the enemy, or perhaps you just do not want your effort in fighting to be in vain.
Pov of when you dont get of the game when your mom tells you to
*plays for 30 more years before coming to eat the lunch*
Respect to them.
Wow can you imagine the back pay some of those guys picked up , it doesn’t make up for the time they lost. But still be a small fortune.
Hiro Anoda, after finally surrendering 29 years after the war ended, was controversially pardoned for what he had done all that time by Philippines Dictator, Ferdinand Marcos, on the basis that he believed that he was still at war, with no knowledge of the surrender in 1945
Must’ve pissed off the local residents when he was pardoned upon being found and went back to Japan despite killing some of the locals’ friends and family who were unlucky enough to cross paths with him when he went out to hunt or steal their food and supplies.
@VictorIV0310 there was a Japanese student, I can't remember his name unfortunately, but he had made contact with Anoda, months before he finally surrendered. Part of the reason he kept fighting for so long was because his commanding officer had said that he shouldn't surrender, no matter happens, that he would return to him. Contact was made to his former commanding officer, who had left the army after the war ended, arranging him to fly to the island Anoda resided and told him what leaflets and letter had been telling him for 29 years, that Japan had surrendered and lost the war, that he should surrender as well. He himself reflected on how he felt about learning that he had wasted 29 years of his life and worse still killed innocent Philippine Civilians in the process, feeling foolish about how he had been so tense and cautious before heading over to where his Commanding Officer was waiting for him, saying that "everything went black,"
In answer to your question, yes, Anoda being pardoned by Marcos caused anger amongst the Philippine population, feeling that he should have faced consequences for what he'd done
Let's see how WW3 holdouts would lasts
Hey, Allies! I didn't hear no bell!
There were even holdouts, though no confirmed evidence there of, on the island of Kolombangara, and Guadalcanal, up to the early 90s, as well as a few old guys turned up in 2005, though they disappeared.
surrender not found in their Bushido Vocabulary
Just Cause 2 Japanese holdout mission where you fight 60-70 year old Japanese soldiers lmfao
Near Davao in Mindanao Philippines there is a tourist attraction, the cave of a Japanese lieutenant who held out until 1972.
7:25 BTTF…😂
Imagine just chilling in the jungle with the boys,and suddenly some yanks try to tell you you need "civilication"
1:38 or so is why Marines stopped bothering to take prisoners.
7:16, did you say Luzon!? WE LIVE THERE TO IN THE PHILIPPINES
I believe 2nd Lieutenant Hiroo Onoda did not come in or surrender until 1974. This was 29 years after WW 2 ended. Shalom
I would be curious if you know the story of the Asano Regiment, it's was the Russians who fought side with Japaneses Army but their story is kind of tragic and depressive.
I remember learning of the Japanese hold outs but this video goes all out in explaining extracurricular activities. I never knew there was a group that about killed each other over winning 1 girls affections
Sam's club in a lot different if Japanese soldier instantly turned herself in after the fall of the Japanese empire
The war means something different to everyone that was there who saw it with there own eyes
I can't help but admire their dedication