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I see people try that strat with Mirage in Apex where they pretend to run into a wall and then come out with a brutal flank. Definitely a good strategy with clone characters. But I know Loki's game so I just shoot everything, and shoot those Runes EXPEDITIOUSLY! 😤
Bronze 1 Strange here, my support main is Loki, trying to get my low elo brothers and sisters to learn to shoot those bastards is harder than getting them to learn how to play something other than dps😭
Loki ult has some really fun interactions. When you ult as the copied target you get additional time based on the character you picked. But it’s not just you receive additional time it’s: if you have less then x amount of time set the remaining time to x. The amount of time depends on the character but typically roaming ults like luna or punisher get 12-15 seconds and instant ults like iron man and dr strange get 5-8 seconds. Some exceptions are black widow and wolverine get only 3 seconds for some reason, rocket and c&d get only 5 seconds despite rockets ult lasting 12 seconds and c&d’s ult last around 10. Also some are better then expected like squirrel girl and storm get 12 seconds, Bruce gives you 3 hulk gives you 15 and buff hulk command grab gives you 10. Some extremely strong copy targets can be: On round 2 or 3 of a control game ask someone with less then 50% ult charge to swap to dr strange and immediately swap back once you copy them. (Also make sure you don’t copy a strange that has portal on cooldown, loki will copy the cooldown.) Portal from spawn above the enemy team and eye them. NOBODY EXPECTS A PORTAL EYE FIGHT WHEN YOU DIDN’T HAVE A STRANGE LEST ROUND If you’re running thor ,hela, and loki copy hela and tell the Thor to full dive cause he has unlimited lives. The only team up Loki can use is getting a kill as hela and reviving thor or even himself if he gets a kill with the stickies after he dies Copy Adam and you get to use the self rez and the ult gives you 12 additional seconds in the copy timer, I’m not fully sure how the interaction works but Loki can rez himself with the Adam ult cause there’s a little overlap between loki dying as Adam and becoming loki again and the Adam ult still being up and seeing a dead Loki on the team. So ult as Adam and run in like you’re immortal cause you are Also in general two people using the same ult at the same time is really difficult to counter so look to copy people with ult
Three additional notes about Loki (from the lense of casual play not competitive) 1). Don't be afraid to stand still. None of Loki's clones can move so if the enemy team sees you moving (and knows the shenanigans Loki is capable of) they'll immediately know you're the real Loki and target you instead of your clones 2). Utilize the clone swap. It's not just a panic move or movement tool, it's very good for disorienting enemies too. If they realize which Loki you are or you see a Spiderman/Panther nearby you can easily use the swap to negate their whole combo. As an added thing, you don't need to look at the clones to swap to them. If you're within range you can swap to the nearest clone while still shooting at the enemy 3). Don't forget you can change your keybinds (especially on controller). In general the controller keybinds are good, but customizing the to what feels intuitive to you makes a MASSIVE difference with how you play each character. For me, I set the drop clone move to LT (so you can place clones even faster while still keeping an onslaught of damage/healing) Invisibility to RB, clone swap to Y/Triangle (definitely because of Lego game muscle memory), and the rune to B/Circle (I also added a bind for my super to be LB so I can snag the one I want much faster than pressing in both sticks). For me, this keybinds arrangement really makes it easier to throw down clones with accuracy very fast while also allowing you to use abilities like rune or swap as you heal/damage players Another note about Loki is that he's a very selfish healer. You're basically only healing every else and keeping them alive so you don't get touched. Keep that in mind and Loki's kit will play *so* good, regardless of the performance of the rest of your team
Definitely one of my favorites due to his unique playstyle. When I picked him up, the main skill curve was making sure his clones lived longer than five seconds with that cooldown management. I do wish the backstab did some more worthwhile damage like 60-70, but at the same time that would probably just turn into a noob trap and get Lokis killed.
As a Loki main he is the best healer. Hands down, his heals are more efficient and much more game altering than others. The trick to being a good loki is play in the background, you are the trickster so act like it. Then be your tank’s best friend, don’t be stingy and let a groot or strange die because you don’t want to use your rune. Loki’s rune comes back much faster than you might think. Also, if you ever die as Loki, but you still have a clone in the fight, pop down that well on your struggling teammates and communicate. “I have a well down at my clone at (yata yata) run there for heals”. Doing this has clutched plenty of games for me.
Something you left out in regards to his healing numbers, is that when his runes “heal” someone that’s already full health when converting damage taken inside the rune, the game doesn’t calculate it as “healing”. It just doesn’t have them take the damage at all, so it’s more like preventative healing.
Love the rivals content cool guy, always had such high quality content and compared to other rivals creators you are head and shoulders above. I’ve never enjoyed the hyperbolic loud screaming gameplay and you ain’t that. Cheers
I thought I was subscribed from my old D2 days, guess not? Easy like and sub here dawg. Quick and easy overview of abilities. Adding your input and tips/tricks. I stopped playing Loki as much cause it felt like I just couldn't get good healing down. But I was being too ambitious/overspending my clones and stuck at 40hp heals. Good shit. Gonna try him out again with this in mind. Been working on my positioning and angles on other characters. Should help here too.
i love playing loki but my biggest gripe has been selecting a champ i didnt want for ult THANK YOU for letting us know about the double confirmation option!
Appreciate you man, great great great tip about using your invisibility to create your 2nd clone in fights to save another for later. Did NOT know that lol
This may actually solve my issue when picking healers. Whenever I try to heal it always feels stressful, but only one who looked interesting to me was Luna. Then I get dive-bombed and I've got no counterplay (aside from the freeze with like a nano-meter hitbox). I didn't know Loki's projectile was splash since I hadn't checked him out yet. And that invis/clone looks OP as hell and perfect counterplay to get away from those GOD DAMNED IRON FISTS! 😵💫
Funny to note, his ult only turns off team up active abilities. It still uses team up passives. I've seen a loki copy the enemy Hela, land a post mortem kill with her alt fire and res himself with Hela's asgardian passive
So the real reason Loki doesn’t actually get huge healing numbers is because his strongest “heal” isn’t actually counted on the charts as healing.. his lantern only counts the healing it does to get your team to full health but after that it stops counting.. it’s looked at as a invincible shield and not health once they are topped off. Luna and cloak and dagger when using their healing abilities like the bubble or the shield counts as a constant healing over time. Hope that helps all my Loki players that know they are saving the team and putting in monster heals but at the end of the game it’s not really showing it as heals.
Lokis only problem: alot of players get OFFENSIVELY aggressive. Btw : absolute best guides, not telling you the same shit and giving you specific strategies to employ.
The thing is, getting aggressive on Loki is actually really good, the problem that most people have is they dont make sure you have an 'out'; you need to make sure you have an escape plan for if you need to dip One of my favorite ways to play the character is literally if you have a strong flanker like a Psylocke or a BP, you can just flank with them using stealth and enable their engages using your damage and your shift. You collapse on a target with them, assist, and then make sure you both get out safely
Double confirmation for his ult could feel a little clunky sometimes when you’re really in a rush to get a clutch ult off. I’d recommend just lowering his God of Mischief sensitivity to around 70 to make it more reliable to copy the character you want
Id agree but man it sucks when that captain America or Venom drops right in front of you and y’all eat the floor. Double confirmation has saved my team and I’s bacon plenty of times.
I’m not following that inflated healing bit. Mantas continues to heal because the Target continues to take damage. Loki did one burst but the Target continued to take damage again too… shouldn’t loki re-heal?
It's a small thing, but his backstab damage should be increased to like 100-150. It's not easy to get a backstab and doing it is taking away from his main job and putting him in danger. But at 45 dmg it just doesn't even make sense from what you'd think of a backstab lore wise or gameplay wise.
Right? Barely a dps increase from his primary fire so it's never worth it. I think either double the damage or give it a debuff it applies like anti heal or an incoming damage amp
I feel a lil dumb right now not knowing you could splash his attacks/heals on the ground. I don’t play him a lot but whenever I did I was sniping ppl bodies from distance 😂
Two things I don’t like about loki are one: sometimes when swapping, if you miss the clone you’re trying to aim it you can inadvertently swap with the other clone which can be disorienting and two: that fact that you can’t turn off the double select for placing clones. Maybe add options to hold to preview placement or something?
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Thank you for watching! Loki has been one of my fav heros. The plays you can make are SO satisfying!
The real way to play Loki is to drop a clone, then stand completely stationary and NPC-shoot other players while pretending you are a clone yourself.
I see people try that strat with Mirage in Apex where they pretend to run into a wall and then come out with a brutal flank. Definitely a good strategy with clone characters. But I know Loki's game so I just shoot everything, and shoot those Runes EXPEDITIOUSLY! 😤
From a Loki main, this strat is funny in low skill lobbies but falls flat when your enemies know to take out clones.
shoot each Loki once and only the real one makes a pained sound from getting hit
lol that strat is definitely a pub stomper maybe but in mid-high elo ranked lobbies you’re gonna get absolutely slaughtered doing that lol
Bronze 1 Strange here, my support main is Loki, trying to get my low elo brothers and sisters to learn to shoot those bastards is harder than getting them to learn how to play something other than dps😭
Every one of your guides so far has made me curious about trying heroes I had no interest in before - I can't think of any higher praise than that
Loki ult has some really fun interactions. When you ult as the copied target you get additional time based on the character you picked. But it’s not just you receive additional time it’s: if you have less then x amount of time set the remaining time to x.
The amount of time depends on the character but typically roaming ults like luna or punisher get 12-15 seconds and instant ults like iron man and dr strange get 5-8 seconds. Some exceptions are black widow and wolverine get only 3 seconds for some reason, rocket and c&d get only 5 seconds despite rockets ult lasting 12 seconds and c&d’s ult last around 10.
Also some are better then expected like squirrel girl and storm get 12 seconds, Bruce gives you 3 hulk gives you 15 and buff hulk command grab gives you 10.
Some extremely strong copy targets can be:
On round 2 or 3 of a control game ask someone with less then 50% ult charge to swap to dr strange and immediately swap back once you copy them. (Also make sure you don’t copy a strange that has portal on cooldown, loki will copy the cooldown.) Portal from spawn above the enemy team and eye them. NOBODY EXPECTS A PORTAL EYE FIGHT WHEN YOU DIDN’T HAVE A STRANGE LEST ROUND
If you’re running thor ,hela, and loki copy hela and tell the Thor to full dive cause he has unlimited lives. The only team up Loki can use is getting a kill as hela and reviving thor or even himself if he gets a kill with the stickies after he dies
Copy Adam and you get to use the self rez and the ult gives you 12 additional seconds in the copy timer, I’m not fully sure how the interaction works but Loki can rez himself with the Adam ult cause there’s a little overlap between loki dying as Adam and becoming loki again and the Adam ult still being up and seeing a dead Loki on the team. So ult as Adam and run in like you’re immortal cause you are
Also in general two people using the same ult at the same time is really difficult to counter so look to copy people with ult
I love playing Loki. Regeneration domain is an INSANE counter to so many ults especially if you place all your clones out when you know one is coming.
Three additional notes about Loki (from the lense of casual play not competitive)
1). Don't be afraid to stand still. None of Loki's clones can move so if the enemy team sees you moving (and knows the shenanigans Loki is capable of) they'll immediately know you're the real Loki and target you instead of your clones
2). Utilize the clone swap. It's not just a panic move or movement tool, it's very good for disorienting enemies too. If they realize which Loki you are or you see a Spiderman/Panther nearby you can easily use the swap to negate their whole combo. As an added thing, you don't need to look at the clones to swap to them. If you're within range you can swap to the nearest clone while still shooting at the enemy
3). Don't forget you can change your keybinds (especially on controller). In general the controller keybinds are good, but customizing the to what feels intuitive to you makes a MASSIVE difference with how you play each character. For me, I set the drop clone move to LT (so you can place clones even faster while still keeping an onslaught of damage/healing) Invisibility to RB, clone swap to Y/Triangle (definitely because of Lego game muscle memory), and the rune to B/Circle (I also added a bind for my super to be LB so I can snag the one I want much faster than pressing in both sticks). For me, this keybinds arrangement really makes it easier to throw down clones with accuracy very fast while also allowing you to use abilities like rune or swap as you heal/damage players
Another note about Loki is that he's a very selfish healer. You're basically only healing every else and keeping them alive so you don't get touched. Keep that in mind and Loki's kit will play *so* good, regardless of the performance of the rest of your team
Definitely one of my favorites due to his unique playstyle. When I picked him up, the main skill curve was making sure his clones lived longer than five seconds with that cooldown management. I do wish the backstab did some more worthwhile damage like 60-70, but at the same time that would probably just turn into a noob trap and get Lokis killed.
As a Loki main he is the best healer. Hands down, his heals are more efficient and much more game altering than others. The trick to being a good loki is play in the background, you are the trickster so act like it. Then be your tank’s best friend, don’t be stingy and let a groot or strange die because you don’t want to use your rune. Loki’s rune comes back much faster than you might think. Also, if you ever die as Loki, but you still have a clone in the fight, pop down that well on your struggling teammates and communicate. “I have a well down at my clone at (yata yata) run there for heals”. Doing this has clutched plenty of games for me.
Nice tips specially the last one :D
The comparisons to other sustained healers vs loki as a burst healer is great perspective
Something you left out in regards to his healing numbers, is that when his runes “heal” someone that’s already full health when converting damage taken inside the rune, the game doesn’t calculate it as “healing”.
It just doesn’t have them take the damage at all, so it’s more like preventative healing.
Love the rivals content cool guy, always had such high quality content and compared to other rivals creators you are head and shoulders above. I’ve never enjoyed the hyperbolic loud screaming gameplay and you ain’t that. Cheers
Man.., the quality of your videos are crazy, I hope you are proud and happy with your work!
Loki is such a pain to deal with when they're used by a decent player TT
Agreed! Everytime I play a against a good Loki they seem to win easily
my bad
-gm loki
i knew how op loki as as a healer and randomly i was hoping i could find a guide today and you came with the clutch
I havent had much draw to even try Loki but i HAD to watch at least for the algorithm. Insane quality on these.
Loki is so cool I never thought or seen that "runway" before I'm doing that now
I thought I was subscribed from my old D2 days, guess not? Easy like and sub here dawg. Quick and easy overview of abilities. Adding your input and tips/tricks. I stopped playing Loki as much cause it felt like I just couldn't get good healing down. But I was being too ambitious/overspending my clones and stuck at 40hp heals. Good shit. Gonna try him out again with this in mind. Been working on my positioning and angles on other characters. Should help here too.
Great breakdown!!
i love playing loki but my biggest gripe has been selecting a champ i didnt want for ult THANK YOU for letting us know about the double confirmation option!
I have been waiting for the new guide video, thank you!!
"Loki is all about cooldown management, and 10 years of Destiny prepared me for that"
Destiny today: "you have cooldowns to manage?"
Always wanted to learn Loki. Ig I was subconsciously waiting for this guide as a sign
I needed this video. Thank you.
I’m Lowkey loving these guides
Excellent guide thank you!
Loki guide from my fav UA-camr! Great start to the day
Love your guides, keep them up!
More vanguards and strategists please!
Appreciate you man, great great great tip about using your invisibility to create your 2nd clone in fights to save another for later. Did NOT know that lol
Mind blowing watching this video. Thank you for uploading this
This may actually solve my issue when picking healers. Whenever I try to heal it always feels stressful, but only one who looked interesting to me was Luna. Then I get dive-bombed and I've got no counterplay (aside from the freeze with like a nano-meter hitbox). I didn't know Loki's projectile was splash since I hadn't checked him out yet. And that invis/clone looks OP as hell and perfect counterplay to get away from those GOD DAMNED IRON FISTS! 😵💫
Funny to note, his ult only turns off team up active abilities. It still uses team up passives. I've seen a loki copy the enemy Hela, land a post mortem kill with her alt fire and res himself with Hela's asgardian passive
I love the "cause obviously you have 4 dps" teammates joke 🤣 its killing me on the inside. The rivals struggle is real
Thing to note is be mindful of clones when the other team has moonknight. You could throw the game if you let him have sightline on them.
Appreciate the video man, please do a winter soldier and magneto guide next
I waited for you to make Loki guide
So the real reason Loki doesn’t actually get huge healing numbers is because his strongest “heal” isn’t actually counted on the charts as healing.. his lantern only counts the healing it does to get your team to full health but after that it stops counting.. it’s looked at as a invincible shield and not health once they are topped off. Luna and cloak and dagger when using their healing abilities like the bubble or the shield counts as a constant healing over time. Hope that helps all my Loki players that know they are saving the team and putting in monster heals but at the end of the game it’s not really showing it as heals.
My fav!!!! Finally
Lokis only problem: alot of players get OFFENSIVELY aggressive.
Btw : absolute best guides, not telling you the same shit and giving you specific strategies to employ.
The thing is, getting aggressive on Loki is actually really good, the problem that most people have is they dont make sure you have an 'out'; you need to make sure you have an escape plan for if you need to dip
One of my favorite ways to play the character is literally if you have a strong flanker like a Psylocke or a BP, you can just flank with them using stealth and enable their engages using your damage and your shift. You collapse on a target with them, assist, and then make sure you both get out safely
Loki is a "bad" guy if you will. Him being misunderstood with his kit is by design. Even when he wins he's a villian.
thanks
This guy is so cool.
You should make a Thor guide! Keep up the good content!
best guides on youtube by far. do moon knight next
Double confirmation for his ult could feel a little clunky sometimes when you’re really in a rush to get a clutch ult off. I’d recommend just lowering his God of Mischief sensitivity to around 70 to make it more reliable to copy the character you want
Id agree but man it sucks when that captain America or Venom drops right in front of you and y’all eat the floor. Double confirmation has saved my team and I’s bacon plenty of times.
Amazing video! Is the tickle monster (black panther) on your list of heroes to review?
I’m not following that inflated healing bit. Mantas continues to heal because the Target continues to take damage.
Loki did one burst but the Target continued to take damage again too… shouldn’t loki re-heal?
It's a small thing, but his backstab damage should be increased to like 100-150. It's not easy to get a backstab and doing it is taking away from his main job and putting him in danger. But at 45 dmg it just doesn't even make sense from what you'd think of a backstab lore wise or gameplay wise.
Right? Barely a dps increase from his primary fire so it's never worth it. I think either double the damage or give it a debuff it applies like anti heal or an incoming damage amp
If Loki copies Hela and dies, he can revive himself.
Every time you make one of these videos I want to make whatever hero you make it about my main. You have to stop 😂
Now I find out abt the double confirmation setting … after I’ve accidentally copied a capt & Jeff several times .. sigh
I feel a lil dumb right now not knowing you could splash his attacks/heals on the ground. I don’t play him a lot but whenever I did I was sniping ppl bodies from distance 😂
Two things I don’t like about loki are one: sometimes when swapping, if you miss the clone you’re trying to aim it you can inadvertently swap with the other clone which can be disorienting and two: that fact that you can’t turn off the double select for placing clones. Maybe add options to hold to preview placement or something?
Loved the content in destiny and im glad you're doing the same with Rivals. Really helpful quality breakdowns