Should it make that sound?

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  • Опубліковано 14 гру 2023
  • Let's talk about the little sounds rides make. when they are being noisy and when they might be asking for help.
    Videos used for audio in my video.
    Batman 2022 pov ‪@ThemeParkPOV‬
    Silver Bullet back row ‪@coastercrutchfield‬
    Raptor inverted coaster off ride ‪@ElToroRyan‬
    Red Force POV ‪@PortAventuraWorldTV‬
    Kind Ka on ride ‪@sharpproductions‬
    Kind Ka off ride ‪@Coastercrazy‬
    Superman escape from Krypton off ride ‪@coasterforce‬
    S&S Shot tower off ride ‪@CoasterCollegeRawFootage‬
    Scream off ride ‪@airtimethrillsrawfootage9558‬
    West coast racers POV ‪@ridewithace‬
    X2 music ‪@ThemeParkMusic‬
    Twisted Colossus front row ‪@coastercrutchfield‬
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  • @dindog22
    @dindog22 6 місяців тому +19

    I like the B&M roar on the coasters before they started filling the tracks with sand

    • @EastCoasters
      @EastCoasters 6 місяців тому +4

      Filling tracks with sand was always an option with B&M. Those parks just happen to be close to a residential area 🤷🏻‍♂️🥃

    • @kendonagan5535
      @kendonagan5535 Місяць тому

      I was at Great Adventure earlier this year and had just gotten off Toro. I commented to my 11 year old, "I wonder if Medusa is running today. " he said it is. When I asked how he knew, he just said, "it's a B&M. I heard it. " As a coaster nerd dad, I was so proud.

  • @SkeledroMan
    @SkeledroMan 6 місяців тому +9

    most of Intaimin's recent LSM launches, since taron in 2016, make a noise like a swarm of bees, except gotham city escape. That's because intamin decided to offset the LSMs and the magnets on the train to the left. So the LSMs don't just push the train forward but also try to rotate it. Then eventually the train bumps into the rail. The gap between the wheel and the track is so small that this results in a relatively high frequency. This is also why the end of red force's launch has such a nasty rattle, that none of the rest of the ride has. It's the only one of these launches that is fast enough that this fault actually causes problems you can feel.

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому +5

      That’s interesting never thought of the offset causing problems. Seems like guide wheel tension could fix that but no personal experience with that style drive.

    • @SkeledroMan
      @SkeledroMan 6 місяців тому +5

      @@ryantheridemechanic One of the heads of maintenance at portaventura told me all this. Usually it doesn't cause issues, but at the extreme speeds that red force gets up to, you start to see issues at the end of the launch.

    • @TheParkPlanet
      @TheParkPlanet Місяць тому +2

      @@SkeledroMan I think it also has something to do with the frequency though, because on the Stators on Taron there stands max: 600V ,2000A, 120°C and "0-300 hz"! When you open a Frequency Generator and you test the sounds with these Frequencys you notice, that they are pretty much the same! And this would also match, because the Coils in the Starors have to Switch faster, as the train gets faster and so the sound gets lighter as the ride gets faster too. I think that both factors play a roll!

    • @TheParkPlanet
      @TheParkPlanet Місяць тому +2

      @@ryantheridemechanic what do you think?

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  Місяць тому +1

      @@TheParkPlanet yes. Best way I can put it would be during acceleration you get a growl - buzz - scream as it gets faster. Of course it all depends on how the star or was built if they use a media to cool internal that sort of stuff. Part two on the original comment was about the shake due to the motor offset. That I couldn’t see due to motor design. I’d go with offset and guide tolerance or crush.

  • @noobcraft6225
    @noobcraft6225 6 місяців тому +6

    My favorite sound is the sounds of all the brakes in the space mountain station at Disneyland. I could literally just sit there all day and watch the ops/listen to those things.

  • @walterandclaude
    @walterandclaude 6 місяців тому +9

    I knew immediately that the second one was a early to mid 200s B&M inverted coaster. One of my favorite sounds in the world. I never realized exactly why those thumps happened. Love the sound of the drive tire motors and the lift chain motor winding up. Love this channel.

  • @SkeledroMan
    @SkeledroMan 6 місяців тому +7

    The noise from the B&M inverts is on a lot of older (pre 2000 especially) B&M designs. The first few hypers, Apollo's chariot, raging bull, and silver star all make that noise too. I think maybe Kumba and Dragon khan too.

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому +3

      I worked on a floorless built in 2000 and I did not have this noise. So it was odd to me.

    • @SkeledroMan
      @SkeledroMan 6 місяців тому +3

      @@ryantheridemechanic I know quite a few things changed in B&M's design team around 1998. They in housed some stuff they had been subcontracting before but i can't remember exactly what. ended up impacting their new designs for 1999 but not 2000 iirc

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому +3

      @@SkeledroMan I love my subscribers! So much information to exchange hands here and not a lot of bickering between people. Thank you for the information!

  • @Dolphin8097
    @Dolphin8097 6 місяців тому +3

    My favorite ride sound is when The Beast at Kings Island locks and releases the restrains sequentially. I’ve always wondered why this ride locks them sequentially when every other ride I can think of locks and releases all of the cars simultaneously.

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому

      So I kind of guessing here so bear with me. It sounds (by a video I have seen) like the restraints are electrically actuated meaning a coil pulls in a plunger to open them. If this is the case, when those coils are released (locked) they will cause inductive current to go back to the control system. These currents can cause damage and blow fuses. So to limit the amount of inductive current they release one at a time. Smart move on their pet if this is the case. Thanks for the comment.

  • @crooked-halo
    @crooked-halo 6 місяців тому +4

    At 40:35, with Scream, that's "the B&M roar!" Sounds I love - Wood coaster anti-rollbacks (was hoping on video) or chain slaps. Buzz bars on PTC trains (only a few left). The gas motor powering Knoebels famous, _fun_ Flyers. The launch of a Schwartzkopf Shuttle Loop. Arrow lift hills. A loud, _irritating_ sound I hate - GCI Titan steel track! At Silverwood recently & both formerly-wood coasters have some. I overheard a few parkgoers ask "what's that terrible screeching sound?!" It's also huge & ugly. Titan track changes a wood coaster to a true hybrid, sadly. Another excellent video! Perhaps a Part 2 might be in order?

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому +1

      A lot of good points there. I am working on a weight drop video (some fun news). I think a part 2 could be done at some point there.

    • @crooked-halo
      @crooked-halo 6 місяців тому

      @@ryantheridemechanic Ya know, I rode King Cobra at Kings Dominion in 1982 on my first coaster trip, but I don't remember the sound! I was only 15. I've heard enthusiasts say they sounded unusual. I'll have to see if there's any video with that sound. Is it the weight falling that makes a different/cool sound?

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому +1

      @@crooked-halo I’ve been told a lot of the weight drop towers used the vent at the base as a regulator. This made some scream as the train accelerated. But the one I have ridden did not have that sound if that helps. If you hearing the growling from the train that’s steel on steel wheels in the lunch area

  • @bassjasinski
    @bassjasinski 6 місяців тому +2

    The sound of steel tearing Fury 325 makes when it passes a support is the best 😂

  • @bocahdongo7769
    @bocahdongo7769 6 місяців тому +3

    Those B&M trim reset sound is just underatedly iconic that they should use it in their promotional video for sound effect opening
    "BAM BAM... BAMMM!!!"

  • @Davidvariance
    @Davidvariance 6 місяців тому +4

    THANK YOU!!!! Sounds are everything for me when it comes to rides, each one is telling a little story full of lessons, history, etc

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому

      Absolutely!

    • @Davidvariance
      @Davidvariance 6 місяців тому +1

      How hard is it to ID problematic sounds if you can't get close to where the sound is localized?

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому +1

      @@Davidvariance extreamly. Especially when a lot of sounds tend to be dynamic (dependent on load) so yea if it’s load on a train or in an area you can’t be in wheels the ride is running its next to impossible. Audio recording does nothing. Best you can do is just start replacing things or wait until the problem changes to a different sound.

    • @Davidvariance
      @Davidvariance 6 місяців тому +1

      @@ryantheridemechanic have you considered doing an explanation of why airgates break so easily/are so prone to causing problems for rides? Is it only older rides? Or all rides? Does something actually break(like something designed to fail in the linkage)?

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому

      @@Davidvariance I Realy should do this as it my phrase right? It actually not that people will break the gate. The problem is, A group of people can overcome the force of the air cylinder and open the gates. Soon as the gate opens when not commanded, ride shuts down.

  • @EastCoasters
    @EastCoasters 6 місяців тому +3

    Great video sir 🥃

  • @IAmAnonymyz
    @IAmAnonymyz 4 місяці тому +1

    Scream is a Bizzaro Clone.... Medusa has no clone..... Get it together Ryan 😁😁😁 🤣🤣🤣

  • @bridgetraveler7700
    @bridgetraveler7700 6 місяців тому +1

    I really like when Superman the Ride at Six Flags New England make that loud ratcheting noise when it disengage from the lift hill and goes down the first drop. Everytime I'm at the park I heard that noise and I think oh the ride is running I better go and ride it before it breaks down.

  • @BamaRailfan
    @BamaRailfan 6 місяців тому +5

    Another interesting sound is the clacking of the electric contacts for each row on B&M wing coasters as they move in and out of the station. Also the restraint release bar on some older Arrow coasters.

    • @ArtBarn591
      @ArtBarn591 6 місяців тому

      Yes! Very similar!

  • @jiminiecrickettt644
    @jiminiecrickettt644 5 місяців тому +2

    This videos give me so much happiness. I wanted to be a ride engineer for a long time I’ve finally found an apprenticeship and though not in my dream job role or ride specific I’m working towards the qualification I need so one day hopefully I’ll get there💁🏽‍♀️

  • @johnfoltz8183
    @johnfoltz8183 6 місяців тому +3

    I like the sounds of Arrow looper lift hills, arrow brake runs, B&M brake runs,

  • @alkankondo89
    @alkankondo89 6 місяців тому +1

    LOL, the "dinosaurs vs. Chuck Norris" comment! 😆
    Going to Six Flags Magic Mountain in a couple days, so there will be a lot from this video I can listen out for. Hopefully, I'll like X2 as much as you do!

  • @coalcrackerchris
    @coalcrackerchris 2 місяці тому +1

    This is a cool game! Some noises i can interpret, othes i didnt notice at first. Interesting video!!

  • @Spike-sk7ql
    @Spike-sk7ql 6 місяців тому +5

    Talking about those clunks on the B&M inverts, even Gatekeeper (B&M wing at CP) does that, and it's loud. I always wondered what that was. Thanks for clarifying that. Crazy that the drive wheels can make such a loud noise. On Gatekeeper it sounds like metal to metal honestly.

    • @Davidvariance
      @Davidvariance 6 місяців тому +5

      I always thought that was the metal contacts to open the restraints and charge the train batteries 😂

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому +1

      Well the stops can at least.

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому +2

      @@Davidvariance the floorless I worked on was silent so I had to dig about to figure out the noise.

    • @spinba11
      @spinba11 6 місяців тому +1

      ⁠​⁠@@Davidvariance it is the train contacts passing the station contacts

    • @Davidvariance
      @Davidvariance 6 місяців тому +3

      @@spinba11 I don't know, it doesn't make as much sense now that I've heard a more sensible explanation as to what it could be.

  • @spinba11
    @spinba11 6 місяців тому +4

    With the greatest respect Ryan I think the sound from the B&M is the sound of the row contacts hitting the station contacts at the train enters/exits, I’ve never heard that sound anywhere else on a B&M, if it was coming from the drive tyres you would hear it, the reason you hear 7 and not 8 is I think when the train is slowing down/speeding up the sound isn’t as loud and is drowned out

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому +1

      Anything is possible. I’m not saying 100% of the rides are the same. I’m just showing that the sound happens both in the station and in the transfer and the lift. So for me, that ruled out unlock equipment but I know B&M doesn’t like things touching. Video on top of the train would help rule in/out things

    • @spinba11
      @spinba11 6 місяців тому +2

      My bad, the sound I was on about you covered at the 30 minute mark, note to self watch the whole video next time

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому +1

      @@spinba11 no worries. Rides are made with so many variables and variances I never fault people. We all learn together. It’s what I love about this stuff.

  • @JPilot2
    @JPilot2 6 місяців тому +4

    G'day, Ryan! "Should it make that sound?" Another great video! You could call it, something like... 'Name That Tune!!' But instead, it's with Roller Coaster Sounds. Lol!!🤣
    I honestly think, that B&M's are much more intimidating, with a roar then to have them silenced. (For an example: Raptor and Rougarou at Cedar Point have huge B&M roars). You really can hear them from so far away. It really makes an imposing presence, when the trains speed through the course. The coasters seem more "alive" and you can feel emotion from the roar itself. Plus, considering! Nothing is more soothing than that sound. Lol! Nice job! Thank you! :)
    Cheers! 🎢♥
    P.S. The Roar is good. It will intimidate and make the coaster sound brawny. It gets you on the kool-aid (so to speak) a little more. Intense coasters deserve an intense roar that will warn you of whats coming. Mantis has good roars. Different wheel surfaces (Like poly carbon, as you know.) Can have an effect on how loud or quiet the coaster sounds while riding on the tracks; Some coasters are designed to be quiet while running on the tracks, to give them a stealthy, silent effect.

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому +1

      I do like the B&M nylon roar but I can from a park with residential all around so we had to be very noise conscious about how much noise the rides were making

    • @JPilot2
      @JPilot2 6 місяців тому +2

      ​@@ryantheridemechanic Oh, yes! 'ride on!!' They fill the columns with sand. In another note, they filled Storm Runners columns with sand to make it quieter, (because of the residential area) But I'm always curious, what it would sound like, without sand. Lol! 😉

  • @EmeraldIV
    @EmeraldIV 3 місяці тому +1

    5:24 this sound is especially noticeable on b&m wing coasters for some reason

  • @pizzafroth1521
    @pizzafroth1521 3 місяці тому +1

    My favorite sound? The LIMs from Flight Of Fear. Music to my ears.

  • @keithchristner4522
    @keithchristner4522 6 місяців тому +2

    ARROW ANTI ROLLBACK!!!!

  • @tjmthegreat4009
    @tjmthegreat4009 6 місяців тому +3

    Honestly the sound of motors starting from the VFD is my #1 favorite sound in a theme park. It's absolute music to my ears. My first time hearing it was on the Mummy as a kid at USF.

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому +1

      Awesome!

    • @crooked-halo
      @crooked-halo 6 місяців тому +1

      "VFD" is, I think, a Variable Frequency Drive for us who might Google this like I did! It's a type of motor controller that drives an electric AC motor by varying the voltage and frequency of its power supply. Didn't know that, either! I'm an aircraft mechanic but electricity was my _weakness_ in college, which might be why I'm in structures & sheet metal.

  • @jacobplatt3066
    @jacobplatt3066 6 місяців тому +2

    I've always thought that the clicking noise when a train enters and leaves the station was the buzz bar prongs engaging with the seperate buzz bars on the track. B & M wing coasters have the prongs seperate on the track. And there are only 7 clicks because the prongs start ontop of the track terminals then as they pass over the train is driving slowly and then it speeds up

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому

      But those are lowered to the down position so the train does not touch.

    • @jacobplatt3066
      @jacobplatt3066 6 місяців тому

      ​​@@ryantheridemechanicOh right, this video shows dispatch from a good angle and it aligns soo perfectly as you can also see the drive wheels run past - ua-cam.com/video/u994WD_8Ygg/v-deo.htmlsi=u0KL9_Y7g9LLJG6u

  • @Project_Storm1999
    @Project_Storm1999 6 місяців тому +3

    The b&m roar is the best sound ever idk why 😂😂 thanks for the video another question do coaster/rides have warranties like cars I’ve always wondered since most of the problems happen in s1 thanks again

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому

      They do have warranties. The length depends on what the purchasing company asked for. Like most things they only cover defects in construction or some electronic components.

  • @LTCoasters
    @LTCoasters 6 місяців тому +3

    Another cool video! I had always wondered what causes Raptor's roar as it goes down the lift hill. I started listening to more B&M inverts. None of them are as loud as Raptor. Someone finally explained that is was structural having to do with the square box track.

    • @johnfoltz8183
      @johnfoltz8183 6 місяців тому

      Great Bear has a loud roar heard throughout the park

  • @Scjheinen
    @Scjheinen 6 місяців тому +1

    Next video "It shouldn't make that sound!" ? That would be fun haha, good one again.

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому

      Audio would be hard to come by for sure!

    • @Scjheinen
      @Scjheinen 6 місяців тому +1

      @@ryantheridemechanic You might be right about that, it would not be appreciated when someone shares it as well.

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому +1

      @@Scjheinen haha! Right!

  • @danamarie2970
    @danamarie2970 6 місяців тому +1

    OH wow I love learning about this stuff! Thanks for the education, great video!!

  • @frenchy1224
    @frenchy1224 4 місяці тому +2

    You said while talking about Superman at Magic Mountain 89 mph instead of its adverised speed of 100 mph. Maybe a video going into depth why they lowered the speed. I've heard Kingda Ka and Top Thrill Dragster also never launch at their advertised speeds of 128 mph and 120 mph respectively.

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  4 місяці тому

      The reason is because technology at the time could not work fast enough to reach the top speed. Delay at sense communication level.

  • @mewtowfanaltmet7193
    @mewtowfanaltmet7193 6 місяців тому +2

    On B&M rides i always thought the thumping sound came from the contact as i keep seeing them move, i assume they have springs pushing them out. i see this noticeably on swarm the ride at Thorpe Park

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому

      I get that a lot. In general, manufacturers don’t want anything contacting the restrain system with the train moving. It’s a huge no-no as something out of place can unlock the restraint. Some rides use chain dog and ARB suppression rails to keep them from touching boosters but most B&M are different as they drive from the side of the coach not the top unless it’s an old standup.

  • @dindog22
    @dindog22 6 місяців тому +1

    I can't wait to hear how Top Thrill 2 is gonna sound

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому

      Should be interesting

    • @ICU306
      @ICU306 6 місяців тому +2

      It should sound very similar to red force

  • @vincentsorletti6017
    @vincentsorletti6017 6 місяців тому +1

    I will also call the launch dog a catch car

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому

      My understand is the Catch car or acceleration sled waits in the track. The dog is dropped front the train. Normally a dog is usually referring to a small metal object like a cam that engages a moving component. I’m my mind your terminology is correct just backwards how you said It.

  • @wdavem
    @wdavem 5 місяців тому +1

    Good video, more like this would be great!

  • @sumguy8
    @sumguy8 6 місяців тому +1

    Awesome video, I got most of them right. But I like the guessing aspect of the video. Great job! No grammatical errors that I noticed all as well lol.

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому +1

      Don’t worry I have plenty of errors to come acrost you 😉

    • @sumguy8
      @sumguy8 6 місяців тому

      LOL @@ryantheridemechanic

  • @Salixian
    @Salixian 6 місяців тому +1

    Oh my god, as a coaster enthusiast and an audiophile, this is a dream come true! I hope there will be a Part 2, because there are still many more other sounds in the amusement industry!

  • @ellexking9136
    @ellexking9136 6 місяців тому +1

    The sound I'm most interested in is that of the Corkscrew at Cedar Point. Arrow Development/Dynamics Rollercoasters doesn't have Gravel, or Sand inside of the Tubular Steel Track, and nothing inside of the main Track Spine. The Trains on Corkscrew utilizes Polyurethane Wheels, and as you said are softer than Nylon Wheels. So what's creating the famous Humming Sound that's heard throughout the Tubular Steel Track with the soft Polyurethane Wheels as the Trains move along the circuit? Another interesting question is? On the former Top Thrill Dragster, as the Trains sped into the Magnetic Brake run, a high pitched humming sound was heard as the Rare Earth Magnets under the Trains went between the Steel Blades that were positioned between the Tubular Track, and the humming sound got lower as the Trains were slowing down. Now the Rare Earth Magnets never made contact with the Steel Blades, but after the Trains would pass over, I could see the heat waves around the Steel Blades as If some sort of friction was produced. One more question.🤣 I still don't understand why, on the Blue Streak, at the end of Car 4 on both Trains? The 3 Circular Bumpers were removed??? I'm quite sure that you've been to Kings Island on many occasions, and if you look at base of the last Cars of the PTC Trains on both The Racer, and the Overrated Amtrak Train Ride from Mason, Ohio to Mason, Ohio the Beast. Attached to the Steel Circular Bumpers, was also what appeared to be like some kind of Steel Housing that might have had contained Hydraulic Fluid, or even a set of Springs inside of the them, that would definitely act as a Shock Absorber in the case of a minor Train collision. I don't know what Cedar Point Maintenance Team was thinking by removing the Bumpers from the Trains. Your videos are Awesome 👍🏽👍🏽🎠🎡🎢

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому +1

      MAXIMUM COMMENT PLEASE!!! Wow haha! Ok so I’m not 100% on these answers so; old arrows and vekomas use light weight oil in the bearings instead of grease. So a good chance you literally hearing bearing noise. Dragster your head magnetic pole oscillation hit the fins and the sound is different depending on the fin mount and location. I cover a lot of this in my video “eddy current brakes”. Last on I’m not sure on the trains. Manufactures do tings for a reason. So I’m guessing it was a retrofit of some kind. Thanks for the comment.

  • @davidlins5689
    @davidlins5689 6 місяців тому +1

    Im nerding out rn this is awesome!! thank you for ur content!

  • @Jenlovescoasters
    @Jenlovescoasters 6 місяців тому +1

    Great video! I loved being in the Manta control room as the train launches, the violent "clicking" was awesome! I used to refer to it as the room of death😂

    • @Jenlovescoasters
      @Jenlovescoasters 6 місяців тому

      Oh, also, loved the intro, and I was able to guess pretty much all the nifty coaster sounds!

  • @Bogarttherideop
    @Bogarttherideop 6 місяців тому +2

    If I could have a reference to tell guests that the noise they hear is normal. I would use this video. Sadly I can’t because no phones while on the clock

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому +2

      Just say “WHAT??? I CANT HEAR YOU OVER THAT NOISE!!!” Haha!!

    • @Bogarttherideop
      @Bogarttherideop 6 місяців тому +1

      @@ryantheridemechanic 🤣🤣🤣 I am 100% using that. Gotta love it when they ask why the platform on the slc is so loud while it’s going down. I was getting tired of my spiels too so that might help me out a bit 😁

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому +2

      @@Bogarttherideop ha! FYI that noise is because Vekoma didn’t put geese zerks or bushings on the platform counterweights.

  • @kendonagan5535
    @kendonagan5535 Місяць тому +1

    I recently got to ride on Wildcat's Revenge at Hershey. On several of the airtime hills and some inversions, i heard a rapid click, click, click. Much the same sound the anti rollbacks make going up the lift. I assume those are the AR dogs flipping up and hitting the underside of the carriages, either by gravity or inertia, but if be interested in conformation.

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  Місяць тому +1

      If you hear about 4(ish) this would be hard o hear in one spot, it would likely be the ARB /chain dogs. If it was more of a rapid fire would then it’s in the suspension

    • @kendonagan5535
      @kendonagan5535 Місяць тому

      @@ryantheridemechanic it was definitely rapid fire.

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  Місяць тому +1

      @@kendonagan5535 chance it’s in the suspension of the train then. They can unload dying negative G and then click or pop when they land again. Depending on how they are adjusted that day honestly.

  • @RALLYxREP
    @RALLYxREP 6 місяців тому +1

    Another absolutely cracking video many thanks, it's really answered a lot of queries I had especially about a B&M that has been down all year here in the UK for a retrack..........there's been a lot of discussions on whether it'll have the same noises and decibel levels etc so I'm more hopeful that the iconic clack clack on entering the station may still exist 🤞

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому

      Yea good question. I don’t know why they would “change” the ride at all. It would be cheapest just to duplicate what was previously there unless there was a super beneficial design change they couldn’t soo without. I bet it will be the same.

    • @RALLYxREP
      @RALLYxREP 6 місяців тому +1

      @@ryantheridemechanic yeah apparently some of the supports had started to fracture and with it being 30 years old I assume it was coming towards the end where it was cheaper or more economical to replace than repair (just some of the stories I've heard) the other being that they want to dampen the noise levels by filling the track..... GUTTING AS IS HAS A FABULOUS ROAR.
      Lastly they've added one extra support in one of the high stress points...... can't remember which part off the top of my head though

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому +1

      @@RALLYxREP interesting. They could switch to urethane wheels to quiet it down but they probably op do gravel filled track

    • @RALLYxREP
      @RALLYxREP 6 місяців тому +1

      @@ryantheridemechanic yeah I believe a lot of talk has revolved around track filling.......but this just everyone's chatter. Next year will be the only time anyone is certain what changes have or haven't been made

  • @mxslick50
    @mxslick50 4 місяці тому +1

    My favorite sound was the (old) launch mech on Montezooma's Revenge. The clutch on the flywheel would have a controlled amount of slip, and it made a very cool moaning/howling sound as it wound the cable. I worked at Knott's and used to take my breaks in Fiesta Village so I could listen to the launches. This is the same mech at another park that shows the sound: ua-cam.com/video/F05ywUwPxc8/v-deo.html Clutch engages at around 9 seconds.
    After one rebuild the clutch lost the cool sound, and had a very annoying grunt and grind sound. I later found out from one of the maintenance guys that it was so bad, it was overstressing the cable and launch car.
    Now the proposed rebuild will have LSMs, smoother but boring as far as sound goes.

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  4 місяці тому +1

      Only way it could be a little cool is if they got the train up to full speed in under 100ft. Like a slow crawl down the track then BAM! Speed.

    • @mxslick50
      @mxslick50 4 місяці тому +1

      @@ryantheridemechanic Agreed. And maybe if you do another "sounds" video, could you play that 'Zoom mech? It is IMHO one of the most underrrated launch sounds ever. Anton was a genius.

  • @thisguy_w0n
    @thisguy_w0n 6 місяців тому +1

    Awesome video! So much information I didnt know I wanted. Also lmao @ 89 miles per hour, sounds about right.
    Keep up the great work Ryan. Love your humor

  • @brandonj4120
    @brandonj4120 3 місяці тому +2

    Was walking past skyrush this weekend and noticed a rattle in As it passes a metal post with a sign and couldn’t help but wonder if it was the vibrations from the nearby footer transfering up into the sign or just a rough spot between two pieces of track

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  3 місяці тому +2

      Not too sure but if the post was working about 15 feet of a footer, it would be vibration through the ground. Most people don’t notice but you can stand next to a footer and feel the train coming.

    • @sendyboi7028
      @sendyboi7028 3 місяці тому +1

      U get on it with the new restraints, managed to get like 5 rides on it, nothing beat the sound of that cable lift

  • @davidlins5689
    @davidlins5689 6 місяців тому +1

    would love a part 2!

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому +1

      Yea a lot of that problem is getting the sound. Most sounds that I give examples of people don’t just record that are because there nothing to see. Hard to go unless I get to a park with that in mind.

  • @MrMakoFL
    @MrMakoFL 6 місяців тому +1

    The sound of a HUSS ride is all you ever need!

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому

      If that large DC motors changing direction because that what I think of but that sound is hard to hear unless your standing there. Mics don’t really pick it up in most public areas.

    • @MrMakoFL
      @MrMakoFL 6 місяців тому +1

      @@ryantheridemechanic that’s true. I have to be right there to hear it but it’s a sound you’ll never forget.

  • @danlastname9002
    @danlastname9002 6 місяців тому +1

    I'm not sure the clunks are from the drive tyres on Silver Bullet. The noise only starts as the train pulls back in, I think it's the give in the restraint actuators in the station. Some inverts only have three or four clunks, some have seven or eight, which would line up neatly with how many restraint actuators are on each one.

  • @Spike-sk7ql
    @Spike-sk7ql 6 місяців тому +1

    Wow, I've never been this early😅. I'm sure it's gonna be a great video.

  • @spinba11
    @spinba11 6 місяців тому +2

    It took me an embarrassing long time to work out what the sound was as a dive coaster train started to pull out of the drop (it’s the lift and anti rollback dogs for those unaware) can someone link the video where Ryan talks about when he valleyed (or almost) a B&M place

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому +3

      I valleyed a B&M train due to weather. So it’s probably in my weather video. I was going to make a quick video just on that experience.

    • @crooked-halo
      @crooked-halo 6 місяців тому +3

      @@ryantheridemechanic Was at SDC 2 weeks ago & learned they close Outlaw Run at 34. Happened both days near closing. It valleys below the zero-G rolls at the end, apparently, which is strange because the ride barely slows.

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому +2

      @@crooked-halo that number was probably made after they valleyed it several times. Finally Said “no go below 34”

  • @bobbylindsey
    @bobbylindsey 4 місяці тому +1

    Please do a video on the infamous holding break on Intamin impluse coasters. Only one, out of the three existing impulse coasters, has a functioning holding break on the rear spike. Are the parts expensive, do they require a lot of maintenance, I'd love to know the details. Thanks, Ryan.

  • @NewEnglandModz
    @NewEnglandModz 6 місяців тому +2

    In Space Mountain in Florida, every time towards the end after the red tunnel, it sounds like something falls off the bottom of the cart. Do you know what that could be? I've been hearing this sound every year for over a decade. I'm guessing it's something to do with the braking, but I don't know what would make that sound.

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому +1

      Not sure. Could you find the sound on a video? Want to make sure we are talking about the same thing.

    • @NewEnglandModz
      @NewEnglandModz 6 місяців тому

      ⁠@@ryantheridemechanic ua-cam.com/video/HLzq3NDCdvU/v-deo.htmlsi=yVsbCrUd_oFLpTqj Just after 2:14 inside the red tunnel

  • @alexfix9392
    @alexfix9392 6 місяців тому +1

    Great video, always wanted to know what caused these sounds!

  • @jackschissler255
    @jackschissler255 4 місяці тому +1

    Question on the anti roll back, The B&M are somewhat quiet when it hits the chain, the Arrows are really noisy but on the Intamin (like Millennium Force) when the elevator cable grabs the train and pulls it up, You do not hear the anti roll back, Why don’t you and what prevents those trains from rolling back?

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  4 місяці тому

      A lot of rides these days use silent anti-rollbacks. Little hard to explain but the use an arm or lever with a drag or magnetic clutch. So as long as the train is going forward, the anti rollback (ARB) is lifted away from the surface not making contact. Soon as the train slows it falls down. And if the train moved backwards, these would accelerated the ARB downward force into the rail. I should do a video on these.

  • @graythewolf6096
    @graythewolf6096 6 місяців тому

    A bit of history about VFDs just for a bit of fun, the first VFD prototypes, from what ive read, began development in about 1969 by Strömberg in Strömberg Helsinki, Finland. Strömberg sold the idea of the VFD to Helsink Metro in 1973, and in 1982 the Helsinki Metro "M100" entered service to be the first application of a VFD, the M100 is scheduled for retirement in 2030. The sounds the motors make on the M100s are quite different from the motors used on modern coasters, this is because coasters have VFDs that typically use IGBTs or MOSFETs that can switch on and off faster than the M100s VFDs, which used SCRs that are a bit more limited in how fast you can switch them on and off(the switching pattern is displayed in the first section of the video for referenc). VFDs are quite common these days, EVs, HVAC, Amusement, Rail, even Aviation, maybe more so in the future, just to name a few, are all applications of VFDs. Really an interesting technology, theres a lot you can look into with it, its like a whole world of bizarre things with these.

    • @graythewolf6096
      @graythewolf6096 6 місяців тому +1

      But I gotta say, the launch on Maxx Force sounds pretty nuts, I think part of the launch sound is caused by a cable jumping around which besides the big bang that I think is aimed in the direction of Whizzer. Haven't been on Maxx Force yet but excited to do so! 😼

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому

      @@graythewolf6096 that’s a fun one!

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому

      That’s some good information thank you.

    • @graythewolf6096
      @graythewolf6096 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@ryantheridemechanic Another thing, if you look at the air launch system Maxx Force has, it's not all too different, at least in concept, to what the Navy uses to launch planes off ships. Though I believe they use compressed steam for those instead of compressed air.

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому

      @@graythewolf6096 and aircraft catapults are direct motion. Steam to dual pistons attached directly to the shoe/aircraft. Amusement rides use cables to seal against pressure loss while travel is in motion. Something steam systems don’t do that great but they have much more energy. Just some steam loss through the two zippers on top.

  • @happysword2587
    @happysword2587 6 місяців тому +2

    Is the launch sound of Taron (😩) coming from the lsms or is it played by speakers?

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому +2

      Although that has audio in the area it’s coming from the stators. The sound reverberates from the close walls and objects.

  • @intamin.enthusiast
    @intamin.enthusiast 6 місяців тому +2

    Could the clunks on the inverts be from the power conecters in the beam next to the track?

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому +1

      For those that use power. Could be but typically you can hear pickups on the bus bar. Most B&Ms don’t use power on the train though. Not until you get into flyers that have an onboard PLC

    • @intamin.enthusiast
      @intamin.enthusiast 6 місяців тому

      @@ryantheridemechanic interesting. I was looking at the bar in the left of the track and it seemed to have some electrical contacts. Maybe for the sensors?

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому

      @@intamin.enthusiast ther can be electrical contacts here but they will raise and lower into place with operation. I’d need a picture or video for exact reffernace and those are hard to come by unless you go to the park with that video in mind.

    • @intamin.enthusiast
      @intamin.enthusiast 6 місяців тому

      @@ryantheridemechanic ok, I found a pov for shadows of Arkham at Parque Warner Madrid where when the train enters the station, if you look towards beam on the left, you might be able to see some electrical contacts sticking out, I believe it looks to be one per row. ua-cam.com/video/7ptLR8L8v-s/v-deo.htmlsi=U5m2u7wCw7YOws3b

  • @snakesonn3590
    @snakesonn3590 6 місяців тому +2

    Tower of Terror at Dreamworld Australia used to make that exact same noise as Superman.

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому +1

      Same ride right? Could be changed if the wheel assemblies were changed to a different type but most parks would not change unless required (noise complaints).

    • @snakesonn3590
      @snakesonn3590 6 місяців тому +1

      @@ryantheridemechanic same ride except it only had one ride vehicle. The whole park used to turn and look every time it was launched.

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому +1

      @@snakesonn3590 yea they probably did something to lessen the boos output.

    • @snakesonn3590
      @snakesonn3590 6 місяців тому +1

      @@ryantheridemechanic now that ours is closed, it’s been shipped over to you guys for spare parts apparently. I love your channel btw. One of my coolest finds on UA-cam this past year.

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  6 місяців тому

      @@snakesonn3590 thank you very much!

  • @MiggerPlease
    @MiggerPlease 6 місяців тому +1

    We had gay sex in college