Odd Nerdrum er en av de mest interessane personer jeg vet om å høre på. Alltid en masse sannhetsord og visdomsord som man sjelden hører andre steder. Fikk en gang tilgang til hele programmet usensurert. Husker ikke hvordan nå, men har det lagret.
In Norway everything shall be understood till it's not recognizable anymore, and then it shall be reduced to nothing. That is the Norwegian mantra, again and again. Norway's world writer Henrik Ibsen is another example, and Norway has not fathomed that it was about the Norwegians that Henrik Ibsen wrote. He was treated with great disdain, just as Nerdum is.
Without knowing the details of the case, but being an art graduate myself, although not a practicing artist, I think I can understand Odds's point of view. It goes like this; as a successful artist Odd Nerdrum has overcome "odds" of 99-1 against. But he has had to move heaven and earth to do it. He will in fact have worked 16 hour days without holidays for most of the last 40 years! Then, as soon as he gets a bit of success, has himself a little farm/artists commune, the Norwegian taxman comes along and tries to take it all away by digging around for "back taxes". If I was him I'd be pissed as well. He must feel like the Norwegian government wants to take away his success and make it that he worked for a pittance for last several decades.
There’s so much to be said about this video and I can’t thank you enough for posting and translating it Odë. I admire your wit and confidence in what you know to be your truth, can’t wait to meet you one day. 👏🏽
See all this injustices Again your Father Ode, it is very hard for all of us, that love your Father. But Thanks God you have been a great source of support to your Father. I feel proud of you Ode.
Ah, herregud, kan du skru av den der cheesy dronen i bakgrunnen? Også: 1) alle gullrekkeshow klippes og 2) et lass med konspirasjonsteorier er kanskje ikke det det er plass til når man skal klippe ned.
The greatest artistic genius of our times. Norway should be ashamed. One consolation: when all of the bankers, bureaucrats and government officials are forgotten to dust... Nerdrum's paintings will live on.
Jeg er beæret over at jeg møtte på sønnen til Nerdrum ved valgbodene i år. Han var en utrolig reflektert person som tenker mer enn de fleste. Nerdrum på sin side har helt rett i det han sier. Norge er et nasjonalsosialistisk sted - Liberty for all!
@micros43 Gir dog ham ingen rett til å unndra skatt, satte meg jo ikke inn i saken da den egentlig handler om en kunstner som føler seg tråkket på, men det er vel ingen klausul som sier at reflekterte personer står over loven på noen som helst måte?
I dont see what these clips are showing, basically everything said here was quoted in different newspapers, and nothing really new came up, nothing really shocking or disturbing either.
Hvorfor? Fordi Fredrik Skavlan ikke er ansatt i NRK og programmet Skavlan ikke er produsert av NRK. Fredrik Skavlan er ansatt i sitt eget produksjonsselskap Monkberry AS - det er dette selskapet som produserer, samt sitter på rettighetene til, programmet Skavlan, og det er også dette selskapet som har full kreativ kontroll, og redigeringsrettigheter.
Men at hans selskap har produsert dette (delvis?) betyr kanskje ikke at sluttresultatet - sendingen er helt under selskapets kontroll... Vi kjenner vel ikke den fulle avtalen rundt dette.
@@ralorpa jo, det stod i avtalen med NRK og SVT at de forpliktet seg til å kjøpe programmene slik Monkberry solgte dem. Det ble gjort slik for å best mulig kunne ha kontroll på at intervjuobjektenes ønsker ble oppfyllt, og er en av hovedgrunnene til at så mange som normalt ikke gjør intervjuer - som Nedrum - i det hele tatt stilte opp for dem.
@heolfanog Større enn Munch? Sikker på det? Uansett, NRK har ikke noe med dette å gjøre - de bare sender programmet, de produserer eller redigerer det ikke, siden de ikke eier rettigheten til programmet.
NRK is a government owned channel. and everyone must pay around 250 euros a year for it, even if you dont watch. so... its basicly a fascist propaganda channel. i demonstrated and wrote a letter telling them that this is blackmailing and ilegal, and they actually stopped trying to charge me. Norwegian politics are insane. i love Odd.
No, Øde got the point. If you have talent or opinions apart from ms in Norway, you are persecuted and viewed as a criminal or stranger. It begins in kindergarten. Believe me, my child has been there and experienced the persecution because of his talent.
12 år senere, hva tenker du nå da? Bli ranet og forgepet en gang i blant av en gjeng mørkhudede pirater, eller ranet og forgrepet døgnet på tamp av skrulle-Støre og de 40 røverne på hans pay-roll?
@thomkenw On the other hand tax limits should possibly get a look on as people such as apprentices gets such a low income and have to pay possibly 37% of their inceome in tax. But on the political prisoners, it is clearly stated that tax is something you pay in norwegian law. You can ofc fight it politically, but it will never help your cause if your taken for tax fraud. You will only be seen as the leech on societies ass.
@sagengenerator Classy to use reductio ad Breivikum.... Socialism is to distribute wealth with force. Taxing someone to give to someone else is just this. So how do most parties NOT have some degree of socialism. Do explain.
@thomkenw IF you sell your paintings you have a income that income is taxable, every society that has a big country and respect for itself of people living there needs income aka tax, Odd Nerdrum is no different then anyone else. If you dont want to pay tax travel to monaco or other tax free countries, its not free to live here both schools and hospitals are expensive. If you ever get in a accident it can easily cost you your whole years income with none supporting you.
@allowambeBOWWAMB I'm sorry, but this "rhetoric" is pretty similar, describing "the socialist" as the greedy villain in an oppressive system that is designed to brainwash it's population. I don't intend to go into any lengthy discussion about various definitions of socialism, but according to you, taxes = socialism? How do you explain that taxes have been around for centuries before socialism as a concept was even conceived?
I dagens monetære system så er det dessverre slik at alle må betale skatt. Jeg trodde kunstnere (generelt sett) betalte sin skatt med den største selvfølgelighet.
The only thing he has uncovered is alot of what we already know but not really gotten a official saying on. Get back to me once his all so mighty great findings actually has stopped a war, and not some he stood up against the big bad wolf fanboyism/hippie stuff.
haha asså jag finner detta lite roligt faktiskt. om det e motbevisat så kommer han inte att bli dömd, är det så att det finns bevis för att han har begått ett brott så blir han dömd så enkelt är det, och 2 år är inte mycket, det kunde varit mycket värre
@spritsengiggle Julian Assange has not really done anything for peace has he? Not that Obama or most of the nobel peace price winners in newer time has done so either. You can say Julian Assange showed some documents, but tbh the only things he has done is too show some documents and video clips not stopped any war or prevented one, I would go as far as saying he could have started one.
I dont know I dont care tbh its just a gimmick price rather not deal it then deal it out to people not deserving it. I study medicine not world peace and alas have no clue on what different people try to do to achieve world peace.
Den skumle musikken var veldig nødvendig, syns jeg.
Ja, den musikken passet veldig godt -til innholdet som er mer skremmende enn musikken.
HEHE :D
Odd Nerdrum er en av de mest interessane personer jeg vet om å høre på. Alltid en masse sannhetsord og visdomsord som man sjelden hører andre steder.
Fikk en gang tilgang til hele programmet usensurert. Husker ikke hvordan nå, men har det lagret.
In Norway everything shall be understood till it's not recognizable anymore, and then it shall be reduced to nothing. That is the Norwegian mantra, again and again. Norway's world writer Henrik Ibsen is another example, and Norway has not fathomed that it was about the Norwegians that Henrik Ibsen wrote. He was treated with great disdain, just as Nerdum is.
Gir blaffen i hans anklagelser. Nerdrum er min favoritt kunstner noensinne, i hvertfall av norske kunstnere, kanskje av alle noensinne. Geni.
Without knowing the details of the case, but being an art graduate myself, although not a practicing artist, I think I can understand Odds's point of view. It goes like this; as a successful artist Odd Nerdrum has overcome "odds" of 99-1 against. But he has had to move heaven and earth to do it. He will in fact have worked 16 hour days without holidays for most of the last 40 years! Then, as soon as he gets a bit of success, has himself a little farm/artists commune, the Norwegian taxman comes along and tries to take it all away by digging around for "back taxes". If I was him I'd be pissed as well. He must feel like the Norwegian government wants to take away his success and make it that he worked for a pittance for last several decades.
There’s so much to be said about this video and I can’t thank you enough for posting and translating it Odë. I admire your wit and confidence in what you know to be your truth, can’t wait to meet you one day. 👏🏽
See all this injustices Again your Father Ode, it is very hard for all of us, that love your Father.
But Thanks God you have been a great source of support to your Father.
I feel proud of you Ode.
Ah, herregud, kan du skru av den der cheesy dronen i bakgrunnen? Også: 1) alle gullrekkeshow klippes og 2) et lass med konspirasjonsteorier er kanskje ikke det det er plass til når man skal klippe ned.
What's up with the horror movie music?
it is a horror case. this is the reality
When there's a single thief, it's robbery. When there are a thousand thieves, it's taxation.
The greatest artistic genius of our times. Norway should be ashamed. One consolation: when all of the bankers, bureaucrats and government officials are forgotten to dust... Nerdrum's paintings will live on.
Sannheten som ingen vil høre...
The Italian/Arab curly hair looking dude at 11:00 what is written on his shirt. Is he selling something?
+John K. Lindgren try google Magnus Uggla
Jeg er beæret over at jeg møtte på sønnen til Nerdrum ved valgbodene i år. Han var en utrolig reflektert person som tenker mer enn de fleste. Nerdrum på sin side har helt rett i det han sier. Norge er et nasjonalsosialistisk sted - Liberty for all!
hvor har du fått disse sensurerte klippene fra?
From Chile, The last voices from the southern part of the earth, we expect that truth and justice will be by your side.
@micros43 Gir dog ham ingen rett til å unndra skatt, satte meg jo ikke inn i saken da den egentlig handler om en kunstner som føler seg tråkket på, men det er vel ingen klausul som sier at reflekterte personer står over loven på noen som helst måte?
Har du fått satt deg inn i saken nå?
possibly because the name of that bank was mentioned ~? a star shines better now upon you
@sagengenerator I never mentioned that "rhetoric". I don't equate tax to socialism, no! But today tax is mainly used for redistribution of wealth.
I dont see what these clips are showing, basically everything said here was quoted in different newspapers, and nothing really new came up, nothing really shocking or disturbing either.
Det Casiokeyboardet som ble brukt til å lage musikken var en bra investering
The true Believer by Edward Hoffer is a good read.
He got pardoned by the King after the supreme court found him guilty.
Varför har Du lagt på detta ytterst obehagliga bakgrundsljud? Det gör det stört omöjligt att titta på klippet.
Hvorfor det? Er da virkelig ikke noe å le av.
Hvorfor? Fordi Fredrik Skavlan ikke er ansatt i NRK og programmet Skavlan ikke er produsert av NRK. Fredrik Skavlan er ansatt i sitt eget produksjonsselskap Monkberry AS - det er dette selskapet som produserer, samt sitter på rettighetene til, programmet Skavlan, og det er også dette selskapet som har full kreativ kontroll, og redigeringsrettigheter.
Men at hans selskap har produsert dette (delvis?) betyr kanskje ikke at sluttresultatet - sendingen er helt under selskapets kontroll...
Vi kjenner vel ikke den fulle avtalen rundt dette.
@@ralorpa jo, det stod i avtalen med NRK og SVT at de forpliktet seg til å kjøpe programmene slik Monkberry solgte dem. Det ble gjort slik for å best mulig kunne ha kontroll på at intervjuobjektenes ønsker ble oppfyllt, og er en av hovedgrunnene til at så mange som normalt ikke gjør intervjuer - som Nedrum - i det hele tatt stilte opp for dem.
Those 6 minutes doesnt give away nothing special, it was probably cut from the broadcast becuse of time restraint.
I've signed the petition to free Nerdrum. The whole prosecution is bullshit and Odd needs to be set free.
@heolfanog Større enn Munch? Sikker på det? Uansett, NRK har ikke noe med dette å gjøre - de bare sender programmet, de produserer eller redigerer det ikke, siden de ikke eier rettigheten til programmet.
@Kohan79 that's Nerdrum, all right
But he said that he had a bank account in Austria, and then says that the jugde is lying when she says the exact same thing?
@allowambeBOWWAMB It was a reply to your "Classy to use reductio ad Breivikum...." I was referring to rhetoric of the original post.
@sagengenerator
You do simply not know anything about this case. Wait until the international court gives it verdict.
NRK is a government owned channel. and everyone must pay around 250 euros a year for it, even if you dont watch. so... its basicly a fascist propaganda channel. i demonstrated and wrote a letter telling them that this is blackmailing and ilegal, and they actually stopped trying to charge me. Norwegian politics are insane. i love Odd.
His son being there and commenting in on the conversation is a bit unnecessary.
I totally agree.
No, Øde got the point. If you have talent or opinions apart from ms in Norway, you are persecuted and viewed as a criminal or stranger. It begins in kindergarten. Believe me, my child has been there and experienced the persecution because of his talent.
Ah, ser at det kan bli litt saksing ut av det når han nevner NNSAP, det er strengt verboten
Ikke noe nytt i Norsk rettsvesen!
Odd Nerdrum: "Jeg hater regjering, og jeg hater skatt. Derfor har jeg besluttet å flytte til Somalia!"
12 år senere, hva tenker du nå da? Bli ranet og forgepet en gang i blant av en gjeng mørkhudede pirater, eller ranet og forgrepet døgnet på tamp av skrulle-Støre og de 40 røverne på hans pay-roll?
Offerrollen får en helt ny dimensjon med dette klippet.
@GunslingerNO yea, tax evasion is very very serious! its far more worse than rape!
@thomkenw On the other hand tax limits should possibly get a look on as people such as apprentices gets such a low income and have to pay possibly 37% of their inceome in tax.
But on the political prisoners, it is clearly stated that tax is something you pay in norwegian law. You can ofc fight it politically, but it will never help your cause if your taken for tax fraud. You will only be seen as the leech on societies ass.
@sagengenerator Classy to use reductio ad Breivikum....
Socialism is to distribute wealth with force. Taxing someone to give to someone else is just this. So how do most parties NOT have some degree of socialism. Do explain.
@thomkenw IF you sell your paintings you have a income that income is taxable, every society that has a big country and respect for itself of people living there needs income aka tax, Odd Nerdrum is no different then anyone else. If you dont want to pay tax travel to monaco or other tax free countries, its not free to live here both schools and hospitals are expensive. If you ever get in a accident it can easily cost you your whole years income with none supporting you.
Yeah, because the State is so much kinder to the Occupiers who upset it in the USA. . .*rolls eyes*
@allowambeBOWWAMB I'm sorry, but this "rhetoric" is pretty similar, describing "the socialist" as the greedy villain in an oppressive system that is designed to brainwash it's population.
I don't intend to go into any lengthy discussion about various definitions of socialism, but according to you, taxes = socialism? How do you explain that taxes have been around for centuries before socialism as a concept was even conceived?
He did not say socialistic,but national socialistic and that means Nazi/facistic gouvernment. But I know,its easy to mix though.
Odd's work is, well... odd.
@sagengenerator My bad :P
Ja vel, Norge er egentlig ikke den SISTE
see what happens when you upset The State in a socialist country??? GOD BLESS ODD NERDRUM from the USA.
Skavlan så litt opprørt over at Nerdrum sa at Norge hadde blitt et "nationalistisk sosialistisk arbeider partei" sted. Sant det Nerdrum sier faktisk.
"Jeg skiller meg ut som kriminell" :facepalm:
Jeg tror det er ikke mye bedre på USA
Nerdrum skulle aldri ha stilt opp i programmet. Han ble latterliggjort!
I dagens monetære system så er det dessverre slik at alle må betale skatt. Jeg trodde kunstnere (generelt sett) betalte sin skatt med den største selvfølgelighet.
Noe han gjorde. Det burde vel du visst, med tanke på navnet ditt?
@koyangwuti7 Amen!
Hele Svorges Skavlan korrigerer norsken til en svenske. Å. Ironien.
Norway - the last Soviet State.. konklusjonen er iallefall ikke noe å si på. Helt enig.
@666cfc Jeg har på ingen måte sagt at Ap skal fritas for kritikk av noe slag. Jeg har reagert på å kalle Ap nazistisk. Det er en viss forskjell....
The only thing he has uncovered is alot of what we already know but not really gotten a official saying on. Get back to me once his all so mighty great findings actually has stopped a war, and not some he stood up against the big bad wolf fanboyism/hippie stuff.
haha asså jag finner detta lite roligt faktiskt. om det e motbevisat så kommer han inte att bli dömd, är det så att det finns bevis för att han har begått ett brott så blir han dömd så enkelt är det, och 2 år är inte mycket, det kunde varit mycket värre
Problemet er at bevisene ble ignorert.
Er det da et rettssystem? Galtsystem?
@prebenist fnis
@spritsengiggle Julian Assange has not really done anything for peace has he? Not that Obama or most of the nobel peace price winners in newer time has done so either. You can say Julian Assange showed some documents, but tbh the only things he has done is too show some documents and video clips not stopped any war or prevented one, I would go as far as saying he could have started one.
Exposing war crimes is doing something for peace. Really.
från extraklipp-materialet på "hemliga" svt gissar jag. haha
Send han i buret.
!
NORSK_FRONT!
I dont know I dont care tbh its just a gimmick price rather not deal it then deal it out to people not deserving it. I study medicine not world peace and alas have no clue on what different people try to do to achieve world peace.
Haha. Uggla på 4:26.
:D
This is riduculous. Who cares?
Who cares.