A Precious Scene from Big Night (Why not mashed potatoes on the other side?)
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- Опубліковано 14 вер 2012
- Set in a small town on the New Jersey Shore in the 1950s, two Italian immigrant brothers, Primo (Tony Shalhoub) and Secondo (Stanley Tucci) from Abruzzo struggle to Americanize themselves and their restaurant. Secondo is more willing to adapt; Primo finds his uncle's offer for them both to return to Rome to help with his restaurant more and more appealing. Watch in Italian: • Ti ci hanno messo dell...
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"She's a criminal. I want to talk to her." Anyone who has worked in a quality kitchen appreciates that line.
"Ah no... sometimes spaghetti likes to be alone." Said Secondo.
😂😂😂
"You got leaves with yours." Said the philistine.
No said the gentile lol
"She's a criminal. I want to talk to her."
OK
"She's a philistine, I won't talk with her."
I love the insinuation that a philistine is somehow worse
As a Mexican immigrant whose family was in the restaurant industry, I feel their pain.🫠🥲
TRUE STORY. Year 2001 at one of Venice's most popular restaurants. I ordered "linguini nero" (linguini with squid ink sauce). It looked good and tasted even better. Somehow, I decided to put freshly-grated Parmigiano Reggiano on it thinking it was going to taste even better. In less then 45 seconds, the chef came out of the kitchen headed for our table with the proverbial fumes coming out of his nostrils. Without saying a word, he took my plate and screamed something in Italian as he headed back to the kitchen. A lady from the neighboring table translated what the chef said: "You ruined his signature dish!!!" I'm sure that wasn't all he said, but the lady spared me any further humiliation. She later explained that it was considered culinary taboo in Italy to combine cheese or any dairy product with seafood.
A fresh plate of squid ink linguini was delivered in front of me about 20 minutes after the chef''s outburst. This time I ate my secondo piato (second course) as it was presented to me. Enjoyed every bite of it like it was going to be my last meal.
The chef came out with manager after the dessert and coffee to apologize for his "unprofessional behavior". The manager announced that our meal was on the house. 💖💖💖
First of all, thanks for sharing this humbling and illustrative story. It says so much about so many things; it says a lot about you. Thank you for gracing my little channel with such artistry, humor, and humility!
> taboo in Italy to combine cheese or any dairy product with seafood.
It isn't, it's just stupid. Mussels are served with Pecorino cheese all over Italy.
The problem is that If you put grated Parmigiano cheese on Mediterranean (expensive and delicate) seafood the all dish will taste of grated Parmigiano cheese. You'd waste your money and the chef's time and effort. Order Spaghetti with a reduction of glutamate and too much salt if you like Parmesan and Salt so much.
I have heard the same story by American tourists many times, for sure it did not happen to you in 2001: there are no more chefs in Venice so proud of their job and so worried for customers wasting money.
Anyway, it's "linguinE al nero di seppia". And if they served linguine and not bigoli either you were not in Venice or you have eaten in the mother of all venetians tourist traps.
@@darioa.5381
(1) "(linguini with squid ink sauce)" was a brief description of the dish. It was not a translation. The menu listed the dish as simply "LINGUINE NERE". I had decided to write "LINGUINI NERO" for linguistic familiarity and in consideration of non-Italian readers.
(2) If it's "squid ink"...shouldn't it be "nero di calamaro"?
(3) If the noun adjective had to be in singular form (and it should be), then how do you explain "SPAGHETTI alle vongole" (or al pomodoro; or all'Arrabbiata)? Shouldn't it be "SPAGHETTO"?
How about "zuppa di MACCHERONI di pollo"? That's exactly what the menu said...not MACCHERONE.
(4) I have visited 14 of Italy's 20 regions and ordered a big pot of mussels for lunch at least once in each region. Not once have I seen on the menu a mussel dish with pecorino cheese on and in them.
(5) Yes, it was 2001...the time when Italy was transitioning its currency from Italian lira to Euro.
That definitely did not happen.
I call BS
"She likes starch, I dont know COME ON"
"beetch" *throws towel*
This scene is so wonderful for so many reasons. Great writing but it comes alive because of two titans of acting: Tucci and Shalhoub. They have so much latent anger just under the surface and are so opposite in their outlooks and each one is right in his own way. It's just amazing to watch even now after I have seen the film 2 times already. Brilliant! And Marc Anthony hovering in the background like Igor looking worried that Shalhoub is going to really lose it. And then he does! (Throws the pot)
Their chemistry in this film is just really amazing.
anyone know why Secondo spoons the risotto to another plate when waiting the Philistine?
I love this movie but then again hate it for its ending.
Up to this one
Absolutely beautiful comment. Thank you
How fun is it that the Philistine Lady (Caroline Aaron) now plays Shirley Maisel on The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel with Tony Shaloub as Abe Weissman!
Thank you sooooooo much for pointing that out! I'm glad somebody's on the ball and connecting the dots that I always miss!!! You're right! How fun!!
@@portfoliolongo And thank YOU for posting this. I play this for trainees at my work to teach them that they need to give the customer what they want no matter how dumb or wrong it is.
@@beedub2958 Your trainees are in good hands!
I've enjoyed this movie many times and on many different levels. The passion for food properly cooked and presented, the love between the brothers, the superb acting, the smart writing, the quiet staging of some scenes (the breakfast scene reminds me of the early mornings I worked in a commercial kitchen). I can't recommend this film highly enough.
Thank you for gracing my little on-again-off-again channel with such an uplifting comment, so unlike the typical comment elsewhere. I love bumping into people who love this film.
Such an UNDERRATED movie!!! I love the story of 2 immigrant brothers trying to make it in America without resorting to awful stereotypes. More people need to watch this 💖
I couldn't agree more!
Absolutely, but I hated it because their competitor tricked them out of their restaurant and ruined them making them cook for him.
The “it can’t rain inside” scene is also a classic. Ian Holm talking to them at the bar is f’n priceless.
That fucking scene killed me. The complete looks of confusion on the other two, the bafflement is so perfect.
Holm's delivery of "WTF" is priceless. R.I.P., Sir Ian.
Tony's character is like a male version of my Italian grandma, who I live with. Ie, adorable, and takes her cooking very seriously.
I saw this movie in theaters when it first came out...one of the most satisfying nights of my life....
I think I can imagine. I didn't get to see it when it first came out. It tells quite a story.
This is an underrated movie. This was my favorite scene, too.
"What? Why? Beech!"
Thank you for this video uploader. 🤗
Thanks for taking the time to say that.
I always wondered if this scene was intensionally lit so it looks like a stage play? I love this movie and seen it hundreds of times!
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I remember watching an episode of Giada cooking traditional Spaghetti and Meatballs with her grandma.
When they were plating it grandma insisted that meatballs be served on a separate plate and women were never served more than one!
Giada said “I don’t care, I’m hungry, I’m having 2”! The hell with tradition!
Yea, sometimes the best way to change a tradition is to let the stomach do the talking.
I feel the rage. To work hard on a dish and then be told that it's garbage. Infuriating.
well either you stay on business or you keep your pride.
Makes my Top Five favorite scenes of all time.
So glad I’m in such good company!
This scene is precious. I understand the Italian's frustration at American ignorance.
Americans have the widest palates in the world. Even small cities have foods and dishes from around the world.
Funny that you talk about ignorance and then go and say something so idiotic.
It only proves your ignorance otherwise you'd have your own national cuisine
giocodispecchi
You mean like Barbecue?
1:41 spaghetti & meatballs ..... as in the Chef-boy-ar-dee can! *the most classic Italian dinner!*
Ignorance of what? The woman has a personal taste, it's the job of the restaurant to cater to it.
Some days this might be my favourite film. I can always watch it, get invested, laugh, get caught up in their lives, love them like brothers, and enjoy their big night, and be there when... y'know.
The kind of film you wish you could serve to others!
I agree. I'd like to watch it again for the same reason.
You understand this if you’re Italian.
How I feel the guys with mustaches.
Ooh I feel his pain. I made a superb risotto last night, because I happened to have made a good stock. Without it, no risotto. With it, heaven on a plate.
Been watching Marco Pierre white again lol
Risotto is one of my favorite to make. When I make mushroom risotto, I’ll take all the odds and ends and make a batch of mushroom stock, very good mushroom flavor throughout.
this is also one of my favorite scenes. when i was working in an advertising agency i showed it to the account managers who often found themselves in that tough space between the customer and the creatives...
That’s interesting. It helps me appreciate the scene even more. Maybe since I’m an anthropologist, whatever that means, I’m drawn to this scene because it reminds me of a busy intersection with cars, bicycles, pedestrians, blimps, and spectators. So glad you commented!
I'll be watching this movie soon after just learning about it. Stanley Tucci is one of my favorite actors... he always does a fine job in any movie he's in.
God this scene is so relatable when you’ve worked at a restaurant. Nothing ever changes. People suck.
People are people. Most are used to a small selection of diet items; especially true in the fifties. Most importantly, they're customers, so they should be treated with patience and respect, even the frustrating ones. The rude ones, feel free to spit in the risotto.
And these customers were rude, which was 90% of the problem. Be picky, have bad taste. Fine. But bad manners is one thing to never be forgiven. The problem nowadays is that you tell off one rude customer and they hurt your business with a negative review.
A brilliant cast, a sharp, witty script & great direction. Such a happy memory too. Checking the newspaper to see the times & theaters where this was playing. Dinner before, or cake & coffee after. Thank you for sharing this. I guess I can never leave the couch this Friday nite & just "stream" it 😔 . WHAT A WONDERFUL FILM! "BIG NIGHT" is truly a treat! If U hv rd my, (long - sorry), post, I highly recommend this charming, "feel good" film to anyone. It is a gem.
Such a wonderful comment!
“No, sometimes spaghetti likes to be alone.” 😂
It took me until yesterday to see this movie, after years of wanting to do so (long story). I relate to Primo's rage against ignorant diners, but I also relate to being an ignorant (though not boorish) diner. It reminds me of something a musician friend told me. If they ask for "Mustang Sally," you do it even though you'd rather take a bath in sewer water than play that for the ten thousandth time. If you're going to cater only to customers with good taste, you'll never make a dime.
Such wisdom! So true!!
My dear hubby and I adored this movie. thanks for posting
arguably the greatest food movie of all time. would make for a great double feature with tampopo or ratatouille, or maybe just a triple feature with all three of these movies
Babette's Feast?
@@stevennieto9898 it’s pretty good, though I prefer big night
@@kevinwheeler6838 Big Night is my favorite too. The whole mood is perfect.
She's a Philistine! haha great.!
I remember this scene. So long ago.
This movie inspired me to buy a Timballo pan and make a Timpano with my kids. Delicous and fun, though really involved and initially overwhelming. We were glad we did it and loved the meal!
You guys are courageous and think big!
@@portfoliolongo Thank you it was delicious and made it again a few times. Lots of food though!
@@RivetGardener I can imagine! 👨🏽🍳 Thanks for stopping by and commenting.
That is impressive you made it!!! I live in Italy and still need to eat it. Need to make another trip south.
HIlarious scene... from a wonderful, classic movie!!
You get these type of people everywhere.
Yup!
I love these two together
What a great scene. Watching the film as we speak.
Absolutely priceless
Stanley Tucci rolling his eyes when Tony Shalhoub tells him he can go serve the risotto
Love this.
anyone else notice there's a continuity error? when the server goes to give her the plate but in the next scene, he's way back behind the table again, going around her and then finally setting the plate down
I'll have to check that out. Good eye. It's amazing how much I miss.
Make the Pasta! Maake it Maake it Maake it!
Come on, let's go!
what she wants! 2:35
Brilhante
“She’s a criminal I want to talk to her.”
So nice of a great show...
Yes, indeed!
@@portfoliolongo Thanks.
@@portfoliolongo I love Italian food so much. And yes I do cook a couple of Italian meals.😀😀
She is a criminal. I want to talk to her! I am DYING! LOL!
Great script, right? Great movie!!
One of my all time favorites. I grew up in Italy until the middle of high school and this is so authentic about how Italians are with food. I texted my dad this clip 5 minutes ago and he immediately was like, I need to see this again. He texted me back just now and was like, I found it on demand and am watching it now! Lol!
Then my job is done here. Seriously, it brings me joy to share this sort of thing. If only we were all gathered at a table with good food...and some wine!! Ciao Bambina!
Grazie! In bocca lupo!
Grazie molte, anche a te.
portfoliolongo.com/2014/01/29/more-or-less-me/
Thanks for posting
I like the guy wanting more and more cheese. 😂
Yea, and executing it all only with hand gestures and facial expressions.
No starch for you!
Brilliantly acted!
Absolutely!
03:30 every cook has been there.
"She's a philistine(.)" I served a perfect roasted beef Bordelaise and my uncle started salting it before he even tasted it. I just took a deep breath, took a deep drink, and ate in tongue-bitten silence.
Just watched this for the first time and was howling at this scene: when I was 10 or 11, I asked for spaghetti with mashed potatoes for my birthday dinner. My mom told me those didn't go together, but she made it for me anyway.
Don't worry, I've developed my palette a little more since then! >.
Not very many people stop by; even fewer leave comments. Your comment is as sweet as it is funny. It’s time for more stories about you and your mom!
@@portfoliolongo Haha thanks! :) Stay safe!
Lol, side salad with spaghetti, a hot green veggie with risotto.
I worked at a steak house that served one dish that has a already chopped steak, it was usually ordered by seniors, but every once in a while ( more common than I’d have liked) some macho guy would come in and order the meal because it was also the only plate that came with mushroom onions and a sauce on top already, they ordered it thinking they’d save a few bucks, not realizing the steak would come like that. I had to get a manager involved so many times because the guys would think we submitted the order to be pre chopped and be pissed cause it somehow implied they weren’t as masculine as they made themselves out to be. I started leaving one menu behind at the tables that ordered it, made sure to say it was incase they needed anything so I didn’t seem rude, and I’d be sure to tell them they can check the menu while I get a manager once they’d complain. People take so much offense when you try to correct them about their order without the menu in front of them, and if you try to inform them while they’re ordering they get frustrated because “ I read the menu” so I know I’m f’d outta my tip either way
It’s a miracle we’ve not gone extinct… yet. Give us time 😂!
"Make the pasta. Make it, make it, make the pasta!"
How many times I have to tell you?
My favorite clip...
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Excellent job, Tina! This was a great analysis of that film. I highly appreciate the wonderful angle on it with your personal testimony and your conclusions as well. Thank you, also, for being such a great and enthusiastic student this semester; I hope to have you again!
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I think this explains American eateries like Red Robin
I find this painful to watch. Painful. It’s a brilliant scene, but I find it painful. This isn’t a scene from a movie, this is a scene from real life.
She’s impatient, condescending and ignorant. The husband is embarrassed and will do anything to appease her. Secondo is irritated but has to keep everyone in the building calm. Primo is impassioned with this food, but uncompromising. Oh and Mark Anthony had no idea what’s going on, but knows the tension is there.
Does anyone else feel the pain for all these people? (Asking for a friend) 😆
I agree, it’s a brilliant scene. It certainly isn’t everyone’s best day; but it could be much worse. She could have ordered a side of pizza. No, seriously, thanks for the brilliant comment.
BEETCH!
2:20 she likes STARCH ;)
Make the pasta. MAKE IT. MAKE IT.
Mariah Moon The essence! Plus one more MAKE IT!
Make it! make the pasta make it make it make the pasta!
I am pretty selective in movies I like. but this is good
You have horrible taste in movies then
Can't really tell from this quality. When she's saying that she doesn't see anything resembling a shrimp or scallop, is it because they're diced, or is it more that shrimp and scallop were part of the stock that made the risotto?
You raise some interesting questions. How did the shrimp and scallops show up in the risotto? Were the brothers skimping? Were they following some sort of tradition that downplayed the appearance and size of the shrimp and scallops? Maybe someone else has some insights?
where can I get full movie?
try here: www.imdb.com/video/amazon/vi3361972249/
Even Gordon Ramsey would have walked out of the kitchen and berated the customer :P
When did Borat learn how to cook?
Does anyone know why Secondo spoons the risotto to another plate when waiting the Philistine?
Vivienne Monti Good question.
plongeaux reckon an answer?😆
Vivienne Monti I honestly didn't notice it. I should have said, good observation. Maybe for the kitchen helper?
I was thinking about portion size matter. My guess is Primo insisted on traditional tiny risotto portion size but Secondo was trying to please Americans' eating habit, so he added one more Primo approved portion on top of it to make it bigger. But then, I didn't see anyone was holding another portion on hand so I really don't know.
Vivienne Monti UA-cam has this little scene on the side:
ua-cam.com/video/GS1JORTPLJU/v-deo.html
So, did the risotto not have any seafood in it? I have not seen the movie, so apologies if this is explained. But if on the menu it said 'seafood risotto' I would expect it to be rice with seafood, but this is seemingly risotto *flavored* with shrimp and scallops.
I think the lady was expecting more seafood, you kbow, big chunks of this and that, like Mrs. Paul's fishsticks. I'm sure the risotto was flavorful; but as Secondo explained explained, it's a STARCH!!!
The origin of italian-american food.
Isn't the "criminal" lady also the character of Shirley in the Marvelous Mrs. Maisel? Caroline Aaron? She is smoking during lunch also in Mrs. Maisel. Interesting habit still more than 20 years later 😂 😂 😂 . Such a touching lovable film. For a nice evening with friends and risotto and WITHOUT spaghetti. Otherwise Tony Shalhoub throws a cooking pot at your head and becomes very angry. That's something nobody wants!!! 😇 😇 😇
Yea, the smoking Caroline Aaron...good eye. I hadn't recognized her until a commenter below pointed her out. I love the film too.
I can see the frustration in serving traditional dishes from your homeland, only for people to expect, what to you might seem like, bastardized versions of them, because that's what they're used to.
hahah
“What?! Why??”
“She likes starch, I don’t know, come on!”
“Bitch!”
The chef would have played a very good Soup Nazi in Seinfeld if not better than the original Soup Nazi Larry Thomas.
Who just heard this on NPR?
I didn't, but I'll look it up.
www.npr.org/transcripts/1043295823
Ah, that's where I heard this. I couldn't remember. I think they might have used this video for the clip.
widziałaś to?
Kojarzę, że kiedyś tak. Przypomniałam sobie teraz definicję "filisterstwa". Dawno, nie słyszałam i oczywiście nie używałam tego słowa, które nie wiadomo dlaczego, wyszło z obiegu, a nie powinno, bo filistrów namnożyło się i to z karykaturalnie rozrośniętymi nowymi aspektami w ujęciu starej reguły. Filisterskiej, rzecz jasna, choć po Paździochowemu. ST między młotem a kowadłem. Demonstrował sztukę relacji międzyludzkich smarowanych wazeliną. Klient ma zawsze rację, więc po co mu mieszać w oswojonych smakach. Niech je, jak i co do czego chce. Przynajmniej wyjdzie zadowolony i będzie dobrze wspominał. Że się najadł i jedzenie było "domowe". Najlepsze to, co dzieje się w kuchni. Szczypta do rizotta z nabożną czcią mistrza i jego nerw z garnkiem. Chwyciłabym kiełbasę z haka, bo nie poszłoby w koszty, mogłabym rzuty ponowić, a może skupiłabym się na samej kiełbasie, gdyby zapachniała suchą krakowską. Zapach nieziemski dla Tadka Niejadka.
The problem with Philistines is that they no handerstand anyway.
"It's a rape!"
Just recently learned the waiter with no lines is future husband of JLo, Marc Anthony.
I'll be darn; from IMDb: Marco Antonio Muñiz (born September 16, 1968), known professionally as Marc Anthony.... Thanks peterinbrat!
America in a nutshell
Once upon a time maybe. But hipsters have made it their mission to only do “authentic” and marvel at their skin-deep knowledge of many cultures and their cuisines. They’re even more annoying than the boorish American caricatures shown here.
who was in the wrong here?
It depends…
Like it or not, the cook. The patron can eat at home or wherever else. You go to a restaurant so that someone else serves you food and cleans your dishes. You can make whatever food you want, but enough customers have to like it if you want to staying business. The whole gist of the movie is that Primo is a great, but uncompromising chef, but their restaurant is failing while a less authentically Italian restaurant down the street is thriving. There's only one table with customers that night. As long as they're paying for their food, just give it to them.
Caricatures not characters.
She likes starch. I don’t know, come on.
Who the fuck eats spaghetti with rice?
Really!
She likes starch! I dunno.
She calls him monsieur…which is French 🙄 Good job Mrs. Philistine
The risotto prop used in this scene confuses me. I've eaten and made risotto enough times to know what it looks like. It's made with broth and typically uses a liberal amount of butter too (among other ingredients). Both of those things end up giving the risotto a yellow-ish tinge. The risotto in this scene is eggshell white. And the grain on that rice does not look like arborio rice. It looks like plain white rice. They also say it's supposed to have seafood in it but you can clearly see there's no seafood.
If they're trying to make that woman seem uneducated about real Italian food, which is the point of the scene, they should have used a better prop for the food. It's especially confusing given the later scenes where you can tell a lot of though and care went into the food they show.
Saffron makes it yellow...
CivilityOfEnemies I agree with COE. A better food stylist should have been employed (or explain that it was just a seafood stock). And saffron is not always used is seafood risotto.
"Maybe I should make Mashed Potato from the other side!" American mashed potato. He's speaking from a Sicilian perspective. To my father "The other side" (of the Atlantic Ocean) meant Italy, to my Grandfather it meant America lol.
Looks a bit like Soup Nazi
I knew I wasn’t the only one who thought that
I used to be a cook, and I never liked the stuck up cooks that think they know what the customer should want. His job is to make the customer happy. Shut up and make the spaghetti... and if she asked for a side of mashed potatoes... giver her that as well ha ha. I made additions that I thought were disgusting - but got compliments from the happy customer. That is the job. Cooking snobs can be such assholes 😎
There are four positions, four types. There are the two extremes, representing the two predictably opposed positions, one at each end of the spectrum, types A and B; and then there are two types of mixture positions in between: type C who mindlessly and haphazardly tosses together elements from each extreme; and type D who mindfully and carefully blends the best and most appropriate elements from the otherwise opposed positions. Types A, B, and D are all humorous. Type C is almost too dangerous to be funny. The film, I think, is about ethnic identity, change over time, assimilation, and the sacrament of Italian food. What would Primo say about pineapple on a pizza?
Then get your personal chef. It seems that that is what you are looking for. The customer is not God or king. He comes into the restaurant by agreeing to a simple contract. He will consume the food the chef had picked as his signature style and theme and in return he will get the best of service and a perfectly cooked meal. If you feel entitled to completely go off menu anywhere, restaurants are not for you.
@@susn1987 You must not have ever worked in food service. I cooked for years. Our job was to make the customer happy. We had menu items, but were very flexible in how it gets prepared. That is what successful restaurants do. 😎
The lesson here is, if you're an Italian national and you move to America to open an Italian restaurant, try to learn a little something about Italian-American culture. Yes, in old-world Italy there is no spaghetti & meatballs, but, surprise, in Italian America there is.
But it's an authentic Italian restaurant that serves, surprise, real Italian food. If you want meatballs, make it at home or go to an American eatery. But stay away from the real stuff. Or even better, stick to your frozen "Italian" tv dinner. And learn the difference. Historic, worldwide renowned Italian food has no reason to bow its head to some 100-150 year old variations from immigrants. Like hell they have to adapt to your "Italian" food.
I grew up with making food so I understand now we have the millennials
Why did they hire a lebanese actor though?