Chicago's Forgotten Monument | The Illinois-Indiana State Line Boundary Marker
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2024
- The Illinois-Indiana State Line Boundary Marker is one of the oldest extant structures in the City of Chicago, constructed to commemorate the establishment of the common boundary between the two states in 1833 and today we discover it's story.
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Hey Ryan, five miles east from that boundary marker a terrible Circus train accident occurred on June 22, 1918 that killed about 100 circus performers, workers, and performing animals. It would probably make an interesting documentary.
Your right, that is a real moment in south side history. Hammond IN
You're right, it's already been made. I watched a very interesting UA-cam video on it. Sorry, I don't remember the title.
Hammond Historical Society sells 2 books on the accident which 2 of its members wrote over the last 50 years!
That must be where all the clown ghosts came drone
The area is haunted by ghost clown and lions.
You are a champ, Ryan. Somehow you manage to find the most obscure and obtuse corner of history and expound on it expertly.😊
The university of Illinois hosts a website that you can view vintage aerial photography from 1928-1947. That little square in the lake is what’s left of what looks like a spot to anchor barges to.
How can I find that vintage Ariel website? I would love to see it.
Thank You, Its nice to see my home turf of your channel. I live and work 1/2 mile from the location and visit it often.
And nobody is doing a video on the old Falstaff brewery. 🤪
The South Shore and South Bend is still operating. Also, this monument was not originally in Chicago. It is in Chicago now because the city has grown out to it.
Wow this thing is a 15 minute drive away. I’ll check it out tomorrow, thanks for the random adventure
how was it?
Ryan Socash does a find job on these videos, If you live in the places he talks about ....PLEASE SHARE IT WITH YOUR FREINDS. History is priceless and history of where you live gives education to the future of our young.
I just love teaching history to our youth, and I'm so glad that he his helping in the effort.
The far set of railroad tracks is the Baltimore & Ohio Chicago Terminal RR (Lake Subdivision). The set of tracks that served the power plant was the Chicago Rail link. The B&OCT, a part of the CSX railroad primarily uses those tracks for storage of unused railroad cars. (Not abandoned!)
The marker is 500 yards from my home. The East Side Historical Society (I believe Rod Sellers is the curator) still maintains a museum at the landmark Calumet Park Fieldhouse. The area also has a vibrant Facebook page. There's a mega-structure that occupies the footprint of the old power station. Perhaps they'd like to earn a little 'civic creds' by helping maintain the marker.
I'm so glad to see this work. It the second time he has done the East Side.
When all else fails, See Merlin the wizard of South East Side History preservation. He trys to this day to keep it alive for the younger generations.
And what is that "mega-structure"?
Son of a gun, it even shows up on Google Maps with a label. I live in Chicago and visit Indiana quite often, now I will have to go looking for it. Thanks for the interesting video.
Pat, North Side, Chicago
Ewing Ave, turn under the viaduct, rigth turn and travel to the end of the road, next to calumet yacth club. The old arch of the power plant is priceless also
Thanks. Wish me luck.@@lkmh3223
It's along Calumet Park Beach. On South Avenue G.
You can go for lunch at (nearby) Route 66 pizza! Great Italian beef sandwiches, too.
A very interesting and informative report. Ok, I admit I'm a states rights guy. I remember when you could drive across the country and experience different cultures by everything from geography, to architecture, food and even songs on the A.M. radio. Loved it.
The scout camp I went to is located on the Mason-Dixon line, and there is a stone on the site. So you can say you went from Pennsylvanian to Maryland just to go for a swim
There's something wonderful about finding old markers and signs. A few moments from my flat in Edinburgh there's a tiny milestone on the edge of a path, half subsumbed by a tall, stone wall of a Victorian era graveyard. It's leftover from when this route was passing through mostly empty land, or farms, pointing the direction and distance to the city centre (only about 25 mins walk, it is pretty central today, back then it would have been outside most of the town). Most people walk past it, the area is heavily built up with Victorian tenements, but I love that it is still there, a reminder of when this area that now seems such a central city neighbourhood was just a rural bit outside the main city.
Ryan, wish I knew about the Boundary Marker before we passed thru Chicago....... Thanks for your time, work and posting....... So much history, so little time......
The roadway leading to the marker actually dead-ends at the old power plant entrance.
Hey I bike by this thing all the time. Didnt realize it had all this historical context
Passed that monument more times than I can count before moving way from the Chi. It's on the South Shore bike trail.
When I was 14 (57 years ago) I was on a tour that brought me to a monument on the border of the Netherlands, Belgium, and Germany. I found it on Google Earth, and it is called Rte des Trois Bornes. Still there! I wrapped my arms around it as I suspect millions of others did, excited that I was in three countries at the same time. I like the markers. Perspective.
Very interesting piece Ryan! Thanks so much! ~ Scott 💙
Thanks for listening!
With all the electrical substations and fencing plus not being on a through Street it's easy to see how it falls through the cracks. Several miles to the South in Hammond IN there was a moderately sized concrete slab next to the Indiana Harbor Belt railroad tracks west of Hohman Avenue that read IND on the east and ILL on the west. I believe it disappeared by the early 2000s. Also in Hammond I'm not sure if they're still there but there were some beautiful buildings by the American Maize Co later AMAIZO showing the development of corn over the ages. I believe they were along old US 41 (surface streets) thanks for this flashback in history
That is sad that that’s not protected. That’s part of our history that can’t be replaced. I wish people would care a little more about our history. Thank you that you do.
The bicycle route sign give me hope....Make it a destination on a cycling route or something of interest. It could be very popular!
The monument is at the north end of a bicycle path that extends from the state line well into Hammond. While I don't know how far one can bike on it, in 2018 during a visit to Chicago's Calumet Park, (I live far from Chicago), I walked this path from the monument to a nice beachfront area surrounded perhaps by a bird sanctuary in Hammond. I was on the path maybe two miles until I got to the beach, which is where I got off the path.
It's history and it's awesome 😎
interesting history. Thanks for posting.
Excellent video very interesting sir
What platform do you use to get your historic aerial photos like the ones used in this video? I'm trying to research a few local industries in the south suburb of lansing il. Thanks for any help
Good info.
It would be nice if someone of note who lived local saw this video and took action to preserve this monument
I live and work on the East Side. I see it almost every day. Its part of our local history.
and some of us go out there and trim the weeds.
Love history!
Do a video on the grave of that one dude in a scrapyard
I miss the old intro! Now every time the show starts it feels like dead air.
Ryan, love your channel, where can I find the turn back time option on maps?
Don't hold my word to this but I think you have to use Earth
LOL, as soon as you started talking about "Chicago's State Boundary Marker" 38 seconds in, all I could do is hit pause, to think about was a song called In the Light of the Night, which name drops "The Chicago State Line" which always kind of bothered me. I don't live there any more, but, I was born in Illinois I know damn well the Chicago is a city and not one of those mega-cities where the county is named the same. So I always found the statement "across the Chicago State Line" to be mildly ludicrous, but I understand using the phrase for a song lyric that fits the music. After I hit pause I went and dug that song out of my song library (from a solo album by Moody Blues drummer Graeme Edge) and had to have a listen.
Of course I know already from the visuals in the this video that the imagery in that song are in no way going to match what the song tried to evoke. But this is all rather off-topic.
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Interesting but of spot history there, good job Ryan!
I believe i have found aerial photos that show its original location. Ill have to look when im not on mobile and fond a way to post them or a link to them. I dont think i can put a link here. I think its where you have figured. The map im lookong at shows both new and old location. Some of the years you can see a small white square right there but nothing there after 88
Your videos are interesting to watch and great knowledge; thank you.
It is negative to think that a citizen would not adopt this landmark and restore it, particularly after you profiling it. It just needs some attention by the right person. Let’s not lose hope.
I guess I'm a bit of a history nerd (BS). Subscribed. Thx.
been there!
seen that!
Super cool video on something no one would really care about except for a few of us who love learnjng about weird information that doesmt matter.
Heck yes
how do you view the date changer on google earth?
I was hoping that the oldest state lines will take me to Fox River State Penitentiary!!!!
I wonder why that monument isn't moved inside a museum in Chicago somewhere, if one is available and has space. 🤔
Southside!
States still have sovereignty over the nation. Not that the government respects it. We are all first citizens of our state and then citizens of our country.
No. That was given up when the US Constitution was ratified. States do not have 'citizens' in your meaning; they have residents. If you feel differently, please show us your citizenship papers, if born in the US all you will have is a US Passport. A naturalized person is a citizen of the USA, not an individual state. I have lived i seven states, does that make me a citizen of each? I have nothing to prove such citizenship.
Some states have fought wars with other states over boundaries. Like the battle between North Carolina and Georgia. I have seen the mountain where locals claim the battle happened. I don't know a lot about that dispute. Could make a good video for you.
Missouri almost went to war with Iowa
Michigan went to war with OHIO over Toledo. Michigan won, Ohio had to take Toledo
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I would love to see a similar video on WWI Doughboy statues and memorials.
The newest is the Monument to the Unknown Mugger…
You also could make an interesting video about the Republic of West Florida. The original "Lone Star Republic." Seized at the point of a gun by the US. No one has ever made a concise video about this nation. I would love to see it. But I know you will not.
Found it in a photograph; appears you're correct. LMK, if you would like the link
Sent to email
Thats crazy about 1907 Germany border
Interesting that the Chicago monument is an obelisk (Osiris/Nimrod) and the Emperors’ monument was 72 ft tall (the 72 nations).
Living in Chicago, we found these types of markers useful because they insured that we didn't blunder into that stinking hellhole called Indiana. . . 🙂
You are welcome to keep your corrupt FIB ass on your side of the border
Or the ongoing dispute between Georgia and Tennessee over the state line. Georgia disputes the line because Atlanta needs the water from a lake on the Tennessee side of the border. According the original boundaries laid out by the government for Georgia the lake is on their side of the state line. Tennessee disputes the location of the line. Atlanta became a city because the railroad hub that formed there. Atlanta has no natural source of water. Atlanta needs the water. This could be a good video for you too. I know you will never read my comments. But I tried. Pax
I need a pin to my he current location.. I’d go clean it up and clear away the shrubbery!
I'm in Chicago lemme see what I can do
Next thing you know they gonna remove it. Smh
This is in my neighborhood the calumet park is so awesome ❤
I’m sure the corrupt state & local police forfeiture seized money could be well spent on that monument
Probably best forgotten. It was a terrible war. Still so many bitter memories. So many lives lost over a stupid state border. My family among them. We can never forgive, and we will never forget. Damn you cartographers. Damn you all to hell. William 2:12
Okay, I will bite; what are you talking about?
If a marker for an old Industrial area... That means it needs to be destroyed unless the industry respect it.
your understanding of the US constitution and American political history is appalling