In all seriousness, I never understood the premium for vintage sealed boxes. The only thing that I could grasp is that when it came to the graded market, there is a multiplier effect on the EV of contents.
My friend bought three older boxes just because he always wanted them, Rise of the Eldrazi, Lorywn and Coldsnap he thought they were a bargain from where they used to be, and e just wants to display them
I bought a box of Ultimate Masters and the only card I pulled over ten dollars US was the Ancient Tomb. Everything else was under, what a complete bust.
Oh Yeah! Man, I do miss the old boxes/packs. Glad I held onto some. I could swear that I have a half box of Fallen Empires stashed somewhere but after 5 moves in 20 years, who knows what box it may be in. Happy I've found pretty much everything else (as well as some surprises I've forgotten about). Alliances. I held onto a box. 2 years ago they were running about $7k - $8k US. Now about $1600. Down 80%!!! 😱
My last UMA topper was Cavern of Souls and slowly playing through the box. Got it at roughly 500$ Canadian from an lgs a year ago and wasn't too bummed since im helping them out with purchase. Fun to find old product. Cheers, Moxman!
Years ago when Fallen Empires first came out, I paid $30.00 for a couple of boxes of Fallen Empires. I sat on them and sold them for $200.00 each. I also opened one box and got soooo many duplicates. My oldest son and I bought some Ultimate Masters boxes when they first came out and the price was good. we still have them sealed. Thank you for the video Mox Man. "Oh Yeah!"
selling the individual packs justifies the price…cause any of them could potentially contain a mox diamond, not knowing what the other packs contain. I have cracked a box of SH when it came out. 2 Volraths Stronghold, Vamp turor, Mox and Queen, actually, most expensive rares, cause it is such a small set! Love SH
Who would buy fallen empires today ? It was crap when I bought it. Last box of it I got was like $20 about 30 years ago and I still felt it was a questionable buy.
Weather light at $1,500 US would probably make you smile while opening it. For any of the reasons that you could have wanted to open it. Seriously some of the best cards in magic came from that set, ever heard of a null rod??
Something went wrong with the audio there, the patreon list appeared in the middle of the big closing ceremonial talk? Or was it the boomstick that fired unasked? Questions with no answers! Really, the old boxes are mostly collector items. At least those on the $5000 and upwards. Only few people want to open them "for the fun of opening", and most who do like Dan/OB have several of them from earlier times when they were less expensive to purchase.
So, where's the baseline for vintage sealed? We know the print run numbers for the Dark, but since it has 60 8 card packs opposed to the 'normal' 15 card 36 pack boxes how do you price vs say Urzas Destiny, which has the 1st foils, also has RL, but we have only guesses for actual print numbers. Basically was Silver Age sealed even priced correctly before the boom? (Still kicking myself for not picking up 4 sealed boxes of Alliances at 140 each 8.5 years ago)
If you listen closely near the end of the video. There's a slight echo going on. It's hard to notice. You gotta listen for it...
Lol ghost in the machine
I hear the echo almost througout the whole video😅
@15:16 Double Moxman, Oh Yeah!
In all seriousness, I never understood the premium for vintage sealed boxes. The only thing that I could grasp is that when it came to the graded market, there is a multiplier effect on the EV of contents.
My friend bought three older boxes just because he always wanted them, Rise of the Eldrazi, Lorywn and Coldsnap he thought they were a bargain from where they used to be, and e just wants to display them
I bought a box of Ultimate Masters and the only card I pulled over ten dollars US was the Ancient Tomb. Everything else was under, what a complete bust.
same thing happened to me with double masters . im never buying another booster box again.
@@ChickenMcThiccken Funny thing is that was the worst box I ever opened.
Oh Yeah! Man, I do miss the old boxes/packs. Glad I held onto some. I could swear that I have a half box of Fallen Empires stashed somewhere but after 5 moves in 20 years, who knows what box it may be in. Happy I've found pretty much everything else (as well as some surprises I've forgotten about). Alliances. I held onto a box. 2 years ago they were running about $7k - $8k US. Now about $1600. Down 80%!!! 😱
The stronghold you pointed out was Korean.
😂😂😂😂 "OHHHHH YEEAAAAAH". that ramble jamble double take to hear what you were saying. Only Moxman can talk over homself.
My last UMA topper was Cavern of Souls and slowly playing through the box. Got it at roughly 500$ Canadian from an lgs a year ago and wasn't too bummed since im helping them out with purchase. Fun to find old product. Cheers, Moxman!
Years ago when Fallen Empires first came out, I paid $30.00 for a couple of boxes of Fallen Empires. I sat on them and sold them for $200.00 each. I also opened one box and got soooo many duplicates. My oldest son and I bought some Ultimate Masters boxes when they first came out and the price was good. we still have them sealed. Thank you for the video Mox Man. "Oh Yeah!"
"Oh Yeah!" I've been hoping for a video about this for awhile. Good stuff MoxMan
selling the individual packs justifies the price…cause any of them could potentially contain a mox diamond, not knowing what the other packs contain.
I have cracked a box of SH when it came out. 2 Volraths Stronghold, Vamp turor, Mox and Queen, actually, most expensive rares, cause it is such a small set! Love SH
Moxman nice topic, but wanted to let you know your thank you audio section is actually talking over your main content around the 15:16 mark
Who would buy fallen empires today ? It was crap when I bought it. Last box of it I got was like $20 about 30 years ago and I still felt it was a questionable buy.
Oh yeah kool-aid style!!! Psychedelic sound delays only in the Ramble Jamble...
Quadruple ending has made my Thursday MoxMan!.... Oh Yeah!
I'm just excited I was able to pick up the Preacher I've been wanting for a few years for $22.
Deals - recently got a few of the Fallout Commander decks for $55 CAD each. All things considered, can't complain.
Weather light at $1,500 US would probably make you smile while opening it. For any of the reasons that you could have wanted to open it. Seriously some of the best cards in magic came from that set, ever heard of a null rod??
Something went wrong with the audio there, the patreon list appeared in the middle of the big closing ceremonial talk? Or was it the boomstick that fired unasked? Questions with no answers!
Really, the old boxes are mostly collector items. At least those on the $5000 and upwards. Only few people want to open them "for the fun of opening", and most who do like Dan/OB have several of them from earlier times when they were less expensive to purchase.
15:19 got some overlap audio there... is that how you try to hide content from the sensors? 👍
How many boxes of stronghold are left I wonder?
Glad I bought one.
Those finnish Salt Liquorice look so good
I can get a Stronghold box here for $3000, I'm trying to grind it down to $2400 which is $67 a pack.
I'm stuck in the Twilight zone with that double moxman
Don't forget these sales could also be attempts at market manipulation by the seller (buying their own item from a second account).
So, where's the baseline for vintage sealed? We know the print run numbers for the Dark, but since it has 60 8 card packs opposed to the 'normal' 15 card 36 pack boxes how do you price vs say Urzas Destiny, which has the 1st foils, also has RL, but we have only guesses for actual print numbers. Basically was Silver Age sealed even priced correctly before the boom? (Still kicking myself for not picking up 4 sealed boxes of Alliances at 140 each 8.5 years ago)
I wonder how many of the EBay box listings are repackaged and fake ??
I have heard of it in the past, but for fallen empires and the like....doubt they would make the effort
Boomstick!
Sticky 💣💢
Ahhhh, cracking sealed product. So many busted gambles. Yet once in a while....paydirt.
OH YEAH!!!!! let's open some packs
Thnx, great vid.
Well I decided to take a shot after watching your video , ran to my lgs and got an ultimate masters and guess what my box topper was tas
Boomstick how about he rares? And mythos?
Oh yeah!!! Boxes!
Boomstick 💥 OH Yeah! 😀
Bad times for sellers and good times for buyers, it's just an économic cycle.
No one light a match!!!!
“Oh Yeah!”
Thanks
#BOOMSTICK
Ohh Yeaaahhhh!
Or or or… I use the money and buy the good singles.
Oh Yeah! 😀
Oh yeah!
Boomstick 💢
Audio fail at the end.
OOOOH YEAAAAH
❤❤❤
Let me buy more baldurs gate and mh2
Oh yeah!
Nothing from fallen empires will ever get broken. Its a garbage product.
old magic is poo tho
It’s easy to find the right buyer and seller for Soldevi Excavations!!
Have you seen the price of surveil lands? 😂