How Much It Cost to Make An SS Faster Than A ZL1!!!! | Vlog
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2019 Camaro ZL1 MOD LIST:
Pray Tuned
Rotofab Big Gulp
2" Speed Engineering Headers
E40
Best Pass: 10.1 @ 135
2019 Camaro SS MOD LIST:
Pray Tuned
RotoFab Dry Filter Intake
Soler Performance Ported 95mm TB
Pray Ported MSD intake manifold
GPI Ported Heads
Pray Performance Stage 3 Cam
Speed Engineering 1 7/8 Headers and catless X pipe system
Stock NPP axleback
E85
Nitrous Outlet Full Nitrous Kit with Standalone Fuel System
Best Pass: 9.59 @ 143
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I’m excited man!
Nice. I’m looking on doing a intake , c8 mani ,headers ,e85 n more cooling in the bay. On a 2021 ss1le. Perfection !
Thanks, completely affordable, and still alot left in the potential of the SS!
Badass jorge ! Excited to see the gains that you will be getting soon at the track ! That intake is killer ! I want one for my vette but ima have to save for a while ..a long while lol ! ZL1 performance for alot less money is awesome in my book. 😎🤘 BurnRubberBrotha!
Thanks! Im just as excited! I wasn't expecting to be doing the intake install so soon, but when you find a deal sometimes you just have to say f it and jump on it! lol
Awesome man! I just purchased a used 2018 ss 1le with 3k miles and love the car. Current mods I have is a cold inductions it, flex fuel sensor and the same mid pipe kit you have on your car w/secondary cat delete, also a ported throttle body from Tony Mamo. Currently not tuned yet for E85 but looking to do the remote tuning from jannetty racing HP tuners. Hoping to get in the 11's too...
Awesome! once you get e85 it should easily get into the 11s!!!
Sounds beautiful 😍
Basically no real modsfor much more than 10-12 hp. And sinxe irs a manual only prior to 2020, 1LE was not made for 1/4 it was made for circut tracks. Road race tracks.
Nice video bro. U explain it pretty gd makes sense u can save 25grand n plus tax on that amount n also insurance will be less. 👍 I’m gonna do the exact modes done to my 2019 1le in few months.
Garry Gill thanks!
Ur video is great for the mods! If you buy a 2018Zl1 the headers , X pipes, Msd intake and the 95 or 103 throttle body and the cold air would be bolt on item one needs for a ZL1? E 85 sensor too.
Wao man thank you for great information. Very honest. I trying to do intake ,e85, speed engineering headers with midpipe. Basically same as you . The question is where do you get tune ?. Thank you
Thanks, and it depends on where you live. You might have a reputable local tuner or you could go with a remote tune from someone like pray performance
Nice SS brother I'm looking to get a SS or a LT1 trying to do the same and get ZL1 speed
That’s pretty crazy , under 4000$ wow. I have about 12k I can put towards upgrades and this video just blew mines lok
Yeah doesn’t take much to be faster than a stock zl1. Now once the zl1 gets modded you will need about another 8k to be as fast or faster
A much better deal!
It doesn't have the same bells and whistles, but for those just wanting speed the SS can be just as fast for much much less money and very similar reliability! plus no heat soak due to a blower!!! lol
@@JLSpeed bells and whistles are over rated. 🤣
Nice brother i Cant wait to get Throttle body and intake manifold . I just ordered American Racing headers with the x pipes without the mufflers and tip . For 1890 and jeeping my stock mufflers and tips so i can have the quiet and loud mode . Roto Fab CAI for 550 because its illegal in California . Motorad Thermostat 45$ , and DSX E85 Sensor for 350 $ . So Total in Parts is 2835$. Too bad our prices arent gonna be the same because i have to pay someone to put in the Parts since im not a mechanic Like you . Haha
Ummah Have Faith thanks! And definitely some parts are more expensive and can get more expensive if you add labor, but overall will still be cheaper than buying anew zl1!
Jorge's Vlog yes i cant wait the parts coming in next thursday! It was a long wait !
Good stuff dude I’m doing the exact same thing more or less.
Redline Motorcars thanks!
Jorge's Vlog i don’t know if we are going to beat a stock gen6 Zl1 because they are a lot better than the gen5’s but the car definitely has better potential at the drag strip because of the reared, transmission and boosting options. Having said all that I race with a slightly modded Zl1 that runs low 10’s here and into the 9’s where the air is better I have a long way to go to get there and there’s just no beating the big horsepower.
Redline Motorcars once modded the zl1 is far faster, but I just saw a stock zl1 trap 118ish at the track last night where I trapped 120.5....
Jorge's Vlog I’ve beaten a couple gen5’ Zl1’s with mine 18 stock other than a tire just because the try racing with a track tire and I’ve time matched an 18zl1 manual because of traction issues again but some blower porting and a tune makes the Zl1 fly. I love the msd intake I was thinking Holly sniper and a procharger on mine but that msd looks sweet, I hope we can get some dyno numbers and track videos as you do the build and I’ll follow along.
Redline Motorcars yes sir, i should have the MSD intake on in the next few days and get the tune updated. Trying to go to the track next week to see how it works!
Awesome video Jorge, love your content man. Out of curiosity if the solar performance TB came out around $600, how come you didn’t go with the Nick Williams 103 mm TB? If I’m not mistaken I believe they’re slightly more expensive. Btw Congrats on the MSD IM, you got a nice discount. Excited to see how it’s going to perform! 👍🏼
Thanks! and the 103 are around 650ish, and the only reason the solar performance one was around 600 was because of the adapter i bought to run it on the lt1. if you plan on getting a bigger than stock tb its always better suited for the aftermarket msd intake which does not require the adapter. I plan on selling the adapter later, but not going to be using it with the msd intake.
Jorge's Vlog Gotcha my man, well good shit Jorge. Looking fwd to your next vid.
Great mods! Just one note; E85 certainly increases horsepower, torque and helps the engine run cooler, however I recommend you use fuel lines, fuel pumps and injectors designed to handle E85. Ethanol is very corrosive compared to gasoline and it is wise to set up your fuel system accordingly. Thanks for the great video!
Thats correct, but pretty much all newer cars from the 2015ish and newer maybe a couple older ones are all built with e85 proper fuel systems. On older models you are correct, you want to make sure your fuel system is set up to work with E85. I ran E85 non stop for over a year without any issues.
That's great you should be in good shape on corrosion protection. On my G8 they installed teflon lined fuel lines and a newer fuel tank. The biggest difference in my car is I am running a Magnuson 2300 Supercharger. When they dialed it in on the dyno it made 715 horsepower with E85 and a quart of pure methanol mixed in and just six pounds of boost. I run Bosch Injector Dynamics 1050 injectors and the fuel system is set up on a loop, running fuel up to the engine into the fuel rails, then back to the tank. This provides enough fuel for hard acceleration. If I run 93 Octane Pump Gas the engine only makes 585 horsepower, which is quite a drop in power, but it's still a beast, especially for a four door sedan. It is amazing how just changing fuel can add over 100 horsepower. My biggest issue is tires. I run stock Michelin Pilots and they go up in smoke very easily. Good slicks improve track times. I use my car as a daily driver so the slicks are not practical, but it is still fun to run a car that can hang in there with the ZL1, Hellcat and Shelby. Enjoy your ride and thank you for the informative video.
@@wythetrumpet6419 awesome set up i had a g8 that was procharged and only ran on 93. Yeah older cars need some upgrades!
these cars stock are good to 800+whp on stock everything fuel related on e85.
@@JLSpeedquestion, what's the difference between 93 octane and the e85 stuff? Never even heard of e85 until 6 months ago 🤔
You're running as good as mine, and im running an edelbrock EForce, headers, tune, and cam but...I have a 6 speed, it's mean on hwy, trap is a different story. I around 10 k in mine. 😞
I would like to see you and the incredible joe get together and run them bolt on ss vs stock zl1 his is a 2018 manual
Tyler Gentry that would be an awesome video! He’s already driven my SS so would be better suited to give a comparison between how fast the SS felt vs the Zl1. He’s in GA and I’m in TX, but maybe we can get something set up before he starts nodding his Zl1 lol
Good topics, however the bone stock GEN 6 SS HP is 455, with an 18% drive line loss you're looking at about 380hp at the wheels, not 410. However, that being said, the GM 6.2L V-8 small block is an outstanding engine that responds to mods, even the smallest with notable gains.
The car put down 410 on the dyno bone stock. These new trans especially the 10 speed are a lot more efficient than older trans so I think the driveline loss is actually more around 10%. But either way dyno numbers done mean much it’s about the times it runs.
15% with a stick, 19% with auto. Auto 1LE option was not avail until late 19'- 2020. No one with a good nibd buys the 1LE SS with a auto. The manuals are quicker (in good hands) than the A10 once above 40 mph. Lighter too.
I've seen lots of videos of RaceProvenMotorsports and the bone stock varies from 380-415 wheels
Nice car man!!! Will adding a turbo (or twin turbo) strain the engine or shorten the lifespan of it???
Yes it will, anytime you are almost doubling the power it will cause excess strain
Good video.
Is the comparison to a manual ZL1? When just talking 1/4 mile time and trap speed, I can definitely see it can be faster than a manual, but not the automatic while it's pushing about 560 hp to the wheel.
The times i mentioned are for the auto zl1s. GM really restricts the cars from factory with the factory tunes, which is why they run what they run. Most Zl1s with a tune only can gain some power and be much faster.
@@JLSpeed Ah, I gotcha 👍🏽
Should have just gotten a ZL1 from the get go if you gonna mod the SS. Transforming your SS will cost more in the long run. It might be just as fast or faster.....but....the ZL1 bells and whistles are what it makes it a ZL1....body, suspension, brakes, trim, finer details. And....Blue book value would be much higher for the life of the car.
For me the zl1 was out of my budget and price point. and I planned on modding from the very beginning. yes you get the bells and whistles which is why i state that the zl1 is a different car. Im just showing that for someone wanting to get similar speed out of a car that fits their budget more, its very doable with an SS and for very minimal mods.
@BRUCE LEE if you do some research you'll Find Ferrari and Lamborghini both pay gm to use their magnetic ride control
Or just throw a whipple on a 5.0 and you'll be eating zl1s for dinner and breakfast
ua-cam.com/video/91XWWOJZXw4/v-deo.html not even a whipple
@BRUCE LEE You seem to not realize that ZL1 comes with two different suspension packages from the factory. The regular ZL1 has the magnetic ride control which provides great handling and streetability without the rough ride of a coilover package and the ZL1 1LE comes with the DSSV multimatic coilover suspension which is made for the track and well tested with a lot of hours by GM. The SS will never be on the same level as that car mod for mod or stock for stock on a road course. The aero, brakes, wheels, tires, engine, cooling etc etc far exceeds the capabilities of the SS 1LE. The ZL1 1LE is the one to get. It's a winning combination right out of the factory and it doesn't just come with magnetic ride control like you're stating. Also, the ZL1 1LE can run hard all day long without skipping a beat. That's highly more impressive than a modded SS that you're trying to turn into a ZL1.
Did you install the Headers? If so, how hard was it and about how long did it take you?
Gotta put it on a lift. Jack or stands possibly but almost impossible without getting it in the air about 4ft.
I did it with floor jacks
What type of exhaust do you have my SS is quiet.
Still love my ZL1 and still have a warranty
Zl1s are nice for sure.
There’s warranty that covers moded vehicles
Thats the key right there. The moment a ecu is open there goes your power train warranty.
@@xijinping4463No not from a dealer or manufacture, absolutely not
I am happy I saw this video I have a SS and I want to make it faster.
Please send me a link for them exhaust tips
If you're running close to the ZL1, wouldn't that put you somewhere in the high 500 / Low 600 horse range? Stock ZL1 is 640 on paper.
not neccesarily, the ss is lighter than the zl1, and im running the et times using drag radials to get a good launch. The mph comes from the top end of the ss and the mods and tune which open up the power for the ss vs all the limitations of stock tune on a zl1.
I have a whipple with meth and trap 130 but spin very bad at tree first 3 gears in automatic
Yeah that doesn’t help lol
I want to know what happens to the car and where is now ?
The car was sold a little over a year and a half ago, as far as I’m aware the car is still hurting feelings with its new owner lol
Your exhaust tips are from an Impala?
No they were from a company called American authority don’t believe they are in business anymore
When are you getting it cammed??
Not any time soon. Planning on just staying FBO for now.
The only camaro ss that can be turned into a better ZL1 is the SS 1LE. Even without the forged internals and just swapping a supercharger in there, you can beat a ZL1 and with magnetic ride and wide tire setup, it handles just like a ZL1. You are still looking at spending 10 grand for all of that add ons.
Dont waste $ on magna doodle ride thats just for confort, adds weight and does not improve performance. Thats been proven over and over this last 8yrs.
So what do you guys think?!
Well said but atomic msd is hard to find for 1100 if ever you got a bargain, that was nearly the same setup I had back in 2018 with the 8 speed though you are right 11.60-11.48 with drag radials, so I would say you are right but HP I would say your whole gain would be just over 50 hp to the wheel give or take, excellent video and very straightforward.
@@MA-lv3kt Thanks! and yes i did get a very good deal, normally the msd is around 1500 and the finall price was using the 1500 dollar price tag.
HP "thoughts" mean nothing til you confirm with testing or dyno slips.
speedypt we’ll go check out all my videos and that should give you all the testing you want to confirm....
Why did you choose to not buy a supercharger?
If i was a camaro fan i will still get a ZL1. Maybe a used one
Luis Landa used zl1s are definitely becoming a bargain. My comparison only applies new to new
@@JLSpeed Used ZL1's are going for 68-75k, Thats if you live around Texas, I ordered a new ZL1 for 70k.
uh last i checked a zl1 has 650 hp so like 590 wheel how can a 430 wheel hp ss keep up ? is there that much of a weight difference?
They have about 3-400lb weight difference. But also stock tune is very restrictive to the lower delivery which hurts the launch times and kills et and mph. That’s why it can be just as fast if not faster when you mod an SS vs stock zl1
When you know somebody is always cheaper
American Racing or Kooks headers those are the only ones to buy
I like the American racing personally but both are good
What if i do this to an lt1? Same v8 right?
Jon Joe yes the lt1 is same engine and would probably have very similar results!
I heard u get no gains from TB ported unless u get cams.
Will C Lol
On the LT1 engines of the Camaros its all about air flow and a ported tb will definitely help, even more so when you port the stock intake and or get a bigger intake manifold.
How reliable is this engine with FBO including MSD manifold and ported TB.? I have my 19 1LE currently with headers intake and e85 kit installed but not tuned yet .. next I’m getting the pray ported MSD and ZR1 ported TB so I will have same FBO as you .. wondering how reliable this engine is
Diego Penaloza no different than stock if the tune is dialed in correctly. The reliability starts to suffer more when you start adding things like nitrous or even worse when you add boost. The car with just bolt ons will be a fun fast car and be very reliable!
Just throw a drop in filter in. Aftermarket cai are useless.
Ran an 11.25 in my bolt on ss in 1600 DA about 4k all in.
Great job, the lt1 has been getting better and better and tuners are starting to get he most out of it.
@@JLSpeed hell ya. I had Brett at pray performance tune it remotely. Hoping to get some better air these weekend and sneak into the 10s
Doubtful 100%. Possiy with slicks and DA of -1600 ft below sealevel, but not 1600.
These LT1's stock barely do 12.5@114 in the 1/4. And the manuals are quicker. Theres vids of stock A10 vs stock M6 SS and LT1 models in 1/4. The A10 always got the initial jump but passed after about 1/8th mark down the track.
Why not a Procharger or Maggie? Cost? Seems like reports show 150+rw gains. Your vids help a ton of viewers. Thanks
boost most often requires built motor for lt1s. It would drive the cost up significantly and put more pressure on the engine. with the nitrous and stand alone fuel cell it can easily support same levels of power with less stress in my opinion. i was running 730 hp on nitrous and car was running strong!
Would still take a ZL1 all day
Then go get it
Did your check engine light come on after installing the headers ?
11hatemenow yes it did, but tuning the car turned off the check engine light
Jorge's Vlog thanks bro, thanks for your videos!
I beat a ZL1 in my SS with $1600 in mods.
From a roll too had it been a dig the gap would’ve been more
What were those mods?
@@JLSpeed Rotofab Cat deletes and E85 tuned and most importantly driver mod 😂
He was creeping up on me after 120 tho
Damn you were getting with the zl1 😱
Your NOT beating a ZL without 4-5k in mods or $1500 nos. Which will make engine reliability go bye bye.
@@prophecicash6095Nos.
You hope it will be faster
I don't think the ss comes with forged internals.
No it does not. but it can still hold some decent power!
You car get that car to be faster if you want to spend the money !
I have a inferno orange 2011 Camaro SS naturally aspirated with a new GM performance LS3 495 crate engine with CNC ported heads and 16,000 dollars in upgrades not including the cost of the car 15,000 a built 6L80e transmission with a circle D 4200rpm stall converter one piece aluminium driveshaft ZL1 fuel pump and injectors Mickey Thompson 305/45r17 ET street R drag radials rear tires 18 inch skinnies on the front to mention some upgrades dynoed 430 horsepower 410 torque to the wheels tuned and runs on E85 l made 3 eighth mile passes with it a month ago l live in Florida best pass 7.40s at 94mph with 1.70 60 foot times with more passes and testing probably could run 7.2s don't know what all ZL1s run but the one that was at the track the night l made passes a 2018 was running 7.9s at 96mph with 1.95 60 foot times it had drag radials but l think it was stock and a automatic some of the upgrades done to my car were cosmetic and suspension brakes and new bearing hubs so not every dollar spent was spent on performance upgrades but 13,000 of it was go fast upgrades
My bone stock zl1 on a tire ram low 7s in the 1/4 ran a 10.9 bone stock just drag radials.
@@JLSpeed my car ran this time on the motor naturally aspirated with 26 degrees timing it has a nitrous setup with a 150 hit 200 hit or 250 hit but the timing needs to be at 19 degrees to use it and with just over 600 miles on this setup haven't gotten that far yet but once l get some more miles on it will be trying a 150 hit in hopes of getting it in the 6.80s in the eighth mile
Gloria,your hp numbers don’t sound right. Should be much higher! I have a 2012 ss,stage 3 cam,headers,heads are shaved 30 thousand,but are stock heads. 3200 circle d stall,and I’m putting down 490 whp. For 16,000 in up grades I sure hope you misprinted your numbers.
@@nickcox2568 no it's 430 rearwheel horsepower 410 foot pounds of torque on a Mustang dyno it has a mild LS3 GM hot camshaft that the crate came with and the 16,000 in upgrades is not only engine parts they include suspension transmission and rear end upgrades wheels and tires I'm much more interested in its eighth and quarter mile times than dyno numbers I've made new passes since this was posted a year ago new times runs 7.22 at 96mph in the eighth with 1.65 60 foot times and 11.28 at 122.7mph in the quarter mile all motor passes got any times for your car in the eighth or quarter mile or just impressive dyno numbers your stage 3 camshaft is quite a bit more aggressive than my GM hot camshaft my car ran these times with the stock 3.27 gears and a Circle D 4200rpm stall converter my car redlines at 6600rpm and will do 123mph in 3rd gear at 6600rpm and will cruise on the highway at 80mph at 2100-2200 rpm the dyno was used for tuning not for bragging numbers it's a fairly mild setup that makes good torque throughout the entire RPM range and the quarter and eighth miles times prove it on the motor car is nitrous equipped that hasn't been used yet l have jets for a 150-200-250 hit a 150 hit should knock a good .5 of a second off these times that it made on the motor with good traction on a 150 hit of nitrous it made 555 rearwheel horsepower and 535 foot pounds of torque with timing backed off to 19 degrees from running on motor at 26 degrees timing this is the only time the nitrous has been used and it was only a 150 hit car should go 6.70s in the eighth and 10.70s in the quarter mile with a 150 hit but I'd like to run 6.90s-7.0s in the eighth on the motor first before using the nitrous but the weight of the car 3920 pounds with me in it doesn't make it easy to do
Sounds like you’re putting down some good times. I’ve only ran mine once on street tread,wouldn’t hook at all,ran 7.02 at 101. I decided not run anymore until my slicks come in. I do have 2 step setup,I’m running 3:91 gears,I have reduced 400 lbs so far. I hope the slicks help me out,should pick quite a bit hopefully, hopefully. Good luck to you.
Get a ZL1 and kick ass with a warranty.
GM charges you for 2 lt4 engines in case they have to replace it on warranty.
You are the test dummies instead of paying in house testing.
🤔🤔
Can you post that paper ?
It was just a notes sheet I had to write everything down idk where it’s at lol
@@JLSpeed thank you
If I had to guess, $15k, at which point should have just bought a ZL.
After having owned the ZL1 also yes I think the ZL1 is worth every penny over a standard SS
I do not see a clutch upgrade which you would 100% need for running under 11.5 sec in this 1LE SS.
my car is an automatic no clutch...
Anyone else notice the cop in the background 😂
My neighbor lol
Hey I bet as soon as you start turning left and right that gets buried at the track by even a stock zL1, 😂😂😂😂😂
Ofcourse, but that’s not the way I was using my camaros. I would love to drive them on a road course, my zl1 would have been a great car to drive in track, maybe I’ll drive my c8 on track eventually.
Don't believe it can be faster or even closer to a stock ZL1 with these mods.
A stock zl1 runs mid 11s….
Right. No proof this does 11.5's when they do 12.5's stock. Need over 120 hp more to drop times 1 full sec and add 8-10 mph.
Hes gonna need a clutch kit too. 1LE clutch cant handle the abuse of 1/4 driving because it wasnt made for dtag stripea, but rather circut tracks. The TR6060 6 spd trans is plenty tough though.
You could of just bought a used supercharger for it for what you’ve spent dude..😂😂😂
The end goal was to be able to get over 650 and did just that without having. To go crazy into a fuel system by using nitrous and a stand alone. It was a great car really fast… I miss it.
Lol there's no way that's fast as a zl1. Mine has $2500 PRC heads, 2" tube headers, high flow cats, MSD intake manifold, .635 lift cam, etc etc and it won't beat a zl1. 544 to wheels
It should beat a stock or even very lightly modded zl1.... get a differnet set up or tuner. stock zl1s run low 12s, and even tuned on intake zl1s run in the mid to high 10s. a cam and heads set up ss should run that no problem....
Those tips look weird
No way. 650hp zl1 a10 would eat your car with those mods. Do the math, 650 vs 510ish and similar weight. No comparison.
650 is what they advertise to the crank I just dynoed my new zl1 last week and it out down 546 to the wheels. Combine that with the limitations of the stock tune and my SS will walk all over the zl1 lol not to mention the zl1 is around 300-400 lbs heavier than a 1SS....
@@JLSpeed mine is 650atw now.. but even factory, an SS auto with full bolt ons and cam didnt keep up.
@@xcesve idk what to tell ya, my FBO SS would run low 11s at 125 where a stock zl1 at the track same day same weather conditions would only run 11.5s at 123-124
@@JLSpeed you have a cam?
@@xcesve bolt on the camaro will run low 11s at mid 125s no cam but go check out the rest of my videos I have since done the cam and heads and added nitrous to my SS and it is a 9 second car lol
Zl1 is still faster you bought a ss and spent just as much as you would’ve on a zl1
New for new no way. You can go back and look at my other videos and see that the zl1 stock is slow compared to bolt on SS.
I sell Chevrolets. New SS 1le is 49k. A new Zl1 1le is $73k. Definitely not the same price.
These comments are filled with zl1 nut riders.. If it ain't the top of the line it's worthless. Ss are running 9's just like zl1's seems like no one knows what they are talking about.
Yeah, I SS can compete, with serious bolt ons like a cam and some nitrous, the zl1 will blow by the competition!!
9 seconds of fun. 9 second thrill. Just 9 seconds huh? Get your SS on the road course for 20min vs that same ZL1 and see how it does. That's where you'll see why the ZL1 is the one to buy. There's no comparison point blank. I've owned a 6th gen SS and it's not close to my 6th gen ZL1 mod for mod, or stock for stock. Yeah it cost more but you're getting a hell of a car for the price you're paying. There's literally no comparison. You throw all of that money at an SS and at the end of the day you should've just bought a used 6th gen ZL1!
@@jonasblane2157 no shit it’s not the same stock for stock or mod for mod. It wouldn’t make sense if it was, considering the zl1 is a few thousand dollars more...
@@pianoguy4949 And just like that Jorge bought a used ZL1. Lol.
@@pianoguy4949 This comment is old, but I hear what you're saying. Some people just don't understand the value of a ZL1 over the SS which is why I said what I did originally over a year ago.
Sorry but a zl1 is just a different animal
lol yes it is I got one later lol but speed wise you can do similar things with an SS
Vog, come on dude wake up, what are you some valley girl..lol.l😂😂😂 straight line speed doesn’t matter what your driving in todays world, you can drive a v6 mustang with turbos and out run your car..something else your not thinking about is cheap parts aren’t always as good, or make as much power as better made and tested parts, I’ve seen exhausts make a 50whp difference between different aftermarket brands ,and I’ve seen 15 WHP difference in headers, I’ve seen 10hp difference on ported and after market throttle bodies ,I’ve seen stock mainfolds have 15whp more than aftermarket mainfolds..also that manifold you bought is a nice piece, but it’s not the best out there either..
This was back in 2019…. And I had a specific build in mind….the end build before I sold it was pretty solid in my opinion. Mid 9s on spray stock bottom end just heads cam and nitrous was pretty solid. Never had any issues with the build. Hopefully I’ll get a chance to build another one in the future lol
Sheesh 🙄 talk about a snooze fest. Dude can you get a little bit more excited 😂
Lol bro you are not beating a zl1 with these mods🤣🤣 you people are crazy if you think that.
Proven if you watch my other videos and obviously I’m referring to a stock zl1….
Buy a ZL1
New for New you are looking at 20Kish plus price difference... and yeah yeah just find used blah blah this is just a comparison about the mods it takes to get an SS to run as fast if not faster than a stock zl1. and to show that it doesn't take much....
@@JLSpeed you want that horse power with out problem with car down the line 50k miles or more it could cost you that muck in repairs when your engine gets hurt
NICK BROWN I know all about modifying a car to the point where reliability starts to suffer, and that usually is more when you decide to do things like cam and heads and then do power adders like blowers. Just doing basic and what I have done is pretty mich basic bolt ons, with a proper tune will be just as reliable as stock.