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Capsized My Pro Angler 12 Cape Conran, Corey Knogg
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- Опубліковано 31 січ 2013
- I went fishing from Kayaks with my father from Cape Conran, west cape boat ramp. My Father had my Cobra Fish N Dive and I had my Hobie Pro Angler 12. after a couple of hours the weather turned nasty, very nasty. It was forecast for 6 knot and hitting 11 knot in the evening. It was still morning and going well no wind calm conditions but a good 1m swell. Instantly a sheer wind came over us and created heavy water spray and the swell doubled to breaking waves. these winds were gusting over 50 knots and at many times we actually couldnt move any direction of choice. After watching Bruce head to the rocky cliffs I headed back to the ramp. once I finally got myself in the direction needed a got hit to the left side on a peak swell with another breaking wave and huge wind gust, I slid out of the yak like a knob of butter in a hot pan. The Go Pro was on the whole time and I hadn't realised. I had all secured except a daiwa wilderness paired with a Shimano Ci4 4000 Rarenium complete with 300 yds of icon braid, (one of my favourites) Yet it could have been much worse. The water was 5 deep with giant kelp growths stemming from a rocky outcrops.
Thanks for posting. Many can learn from this. One thing to note is that its usually better to grab that paddle when it starts getting nautical. I think its easy to get too used to the pedals and people forget that the paddle can keep you from flipping as well as get you turned around quickly to face a wave and pick up gear that went overboard. Above all though, glad you are ok and lived to tell the tale to keep others safe.
You lived through it.. It could have been worse.. shame you lost some gear but at the end of the day your life is worth more..
Great demonstration on why tethers are needed for equipment you don't want to lose. I'm astonished your mirage drive did not disengage from its mount. Amazing. Glad you are okay.
Glad you made it out okay... Remarkable Video that's I will learn alot from it. And Thank God you made it out alive.
Glad you got out out of that one. Thanks for sharing so that other people can be aware how quickly a situation can change and get dangerous.
Thanks for posting this. It shows well what can happen out there when things turn ugly in a hurry. Glad it worked out!
That sucks dude. So sorry that happened to you! After the shock of getting wet wore off, you did a good job of regrouping and collecting. That is the best anyone can hope to do.
You got into the mess and you got out of the mess. Great experience. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks for sharing this video......glad you and your Dad are OK!
Thanks so much for the video Corey. I plan to rent the Hobie Revo 13 a number of times before buying it...after seeing this I will test it well! Those were quite rough conditions and with that wind too it makes things beyond challenging. Glad you came out fine and wiser too ;o)
Thanks for sharing the experience. Glad you came out okay. I see some nasty rocks near shore.
Thanx for posting this ---- a great lesson for us all!
That scene of the PA , upside down and the reef is frightening. Thank you for posting this
Thanks for showing your unpleasant trip tip, i myself have PA14 and always wondered how it would handle in harsh wheather... Now I know.
1. always wear PFD, 2. tie & secure all gears, 3. Never go out in bad wheather.
I once capsized from my Macski kayak out in ocean & what freaked me out was the cold water, I panicked which wasn't good...
just got my PA12 2016. my 1st kayak so i think i need to practice self rescue routine.. glad you made it safe to shore..
and dont overload it
This looks really scary man it's a good thing you were able to keep your wits and not panic, seems like the boat is kind of top heavy but then again whenever you're out fishing with a lot of gear is no way to avoid that
Oh man scary. Glad you guys made it back in and had PFDs on!
Great recovery. Sorry to see you lost the rod and reel.
R.I.P daiwa wilderness paired with a Shimano Ci4 4000 Rarenium :( I feel your loss but you made it back and the rod can always be replaced. great video showing how things can and do get out of hand to keep all of us Yak fishers humble "not all days are good days on the water" Fish safely my friends.
I flipped mine also. I learned the first day not to have the seat in the high position in rough water. It was Hell getting back in too
It was like glass to start, once it blew up I never had the confidence to move my weight and stop pedaling to adjust it back down.
Thanks for sharing Corey!
Nice job out there, keeping your head.
Vid has some great tips for newbies and veterans alike.
Wear that jacket!!!
Stay calm, save yourself and let the gear go.
Check the weather prior to departure.
Monitor the weather constantly.
Head for shore when things get dicey.
Very smart comment about leashes.
Imagine getting tangled up in that leashed crap under your boat.
I'm glad you're safe.
Happy fishing!
i have'nt flip my pa14 yet and after seeing this clip i now know what to prep and avoid.thanks for sharing your unfortunates and giving others heads up. i never wear my pfd, now heck ya...
Capsize is a kayaker initiation, which I think everyone will experience at least once in their lifetime. It humbles us to respect the water at all times. Just be sure to have safety equipments and tie down all your gears! Enjoy the plunge 😝😝
Thank you very much for sharing, glad you are ok. Just shows we should always be prepared for the weather.
I'm glad you're safe and made it out safely.
Good job. Way to not panic when things got tuff. It sucks you lost some gear, but u made it back safe. Gear can be replaced over time.
I have also rolled my fishing kayak.
For me, it was when a clip on the anchor trolley broke, the yak almost instantly snapped to perpendicular of the current, and off I went, along with a stringer of about 15 lbs of flounder, about $1k of gear (quality prescription sunglasses really hurt to replace), and my favorite suntamer hat.
The current carried me about 2 miles up the Matanzas River (thank God it was an incoming tide) before I swam back to shore. I hitched a ride on a Waverunner back to where my yak was still anchored, cut the line, went home, and hugged my kids.
"Stuff" is expensive to replace. I am glad that I have the opportunity to replace it.
When a fishing kayak flips, it is very, very sudden. There is so much surface area/surface tension on the hull, it resists rolling very well. But when that is exceeded, it happens fast.
All I can say is Wow! Glad you're OK!
Corey, my comment was not directed at you and I realize you never called it a design flaw. Control or not, the reason the boat flipped was because of the huge wave that hit at 90 degrees. I was not implying you did anything wrong. Glad it worked out.
Man, that was intense. Glad you made it out of there alright.
Thanks for the video - very educational.
Great video! I'm glad you're OK.
Must have been a very scary experience. I had a laugh to myself when you looked at all your gear floating in the water and your face was kinda like...'Nah fuck that!' lol
Good video first glad you got back on ok you don't see many videos with kayaks full of fishing gear on board capsize.As a beginner I will be practicing getting on and off mine before I even attempt going out with all my gear on
That sucks man, but glad to see you made it out okay. Wind can be a bugger when you are out there. It's great that you shared this for others to learn from.
Glad you are safe...I was in a canoe
with my grandson in lake Superior at Isle Royal when a storm came in with whitecaps and capsized us. I know what you went thru. be safe
Damn that sucks bro. I was going to get a Hobie Pro 12. You changed my mind about getting a yak.
Wow. I'm not sure what I feel here. I got dumped out of my 2013 Hobie Mirage Revo 11 last week, in 10-15 knot winds with a 1 metre lump. I actually didn't get knocked out until I had pedalled into calmer waters, but unbeknownst to me, water had leaked inside, possibly due to a poorly sealed hatch, and when I shifted my bum to let the water out underneath my seat, the weight shifted under me and out I went. Everything was leashed, and I easily righted the kayak. Hubby came over in his Hobie Outback and helped me to pull over the top and get back in. Right then and there, I realized I didn't have enough freeboard for Vancouver Island ocean conditions. I went and traded in for a 2015 Hobie Outback with the Vantage seat. I tried it out yesterday, and yes it feels weird in the high position, although MUCH more stable than the Revolution. I'll be keeping my seat in the lowest positon after watching this! I'd be lying if I sad I wasn't nervous about going back out again, buy I think my love of salmon fishing will overcome my fears. For the record, I think you did everything right in this situation. It's the marine weather forecasters who screwed up! :)
+Jeannie Dixon - what part of VI were you in? I was in a few places around Victoria and Tofino with my NuCanoe Frontier 12 this past summer around the same time
East Coast of Vancouver Island. North of Nanaimo. I'm originally from the West Coast (Port Alberni) and grew up in Barkley Sound, so I'm very familiar with West Coast conditions.
We met some Aussie people this summer from Melbourne. He is the Hobie dealer there. Scott Lovig. Awesome fellow.
Great vid...hard experience!
Forgot to mention, now the actually funny part was when you arrived back, got out, appears a little deeper than you thought, looks like you fell out almost, kind of like "really? after all I've been through, a shallow water fail too?". Haha! Great video, thanks for sharing.
Glad you made it back safe. Aloha
Great capture, heads up indeed. My first thought was quartering those following breakers not a good idea. Not sure what I would have done but it seems heading back into them until you got a better baring... maybe, dono, wasn’t there.
Oh, man. I feel ya. One of my first trips in my yak, i went over losing allot of valueable gear. Once that tipping point is reached....comments can seem hrsh sometimes but i could tell it was clearly unexpected weather, it happens. I thought u did pretty good damage control priorities though. Sorry it happened but thanks for sharing the excellent footage.
thanks for sharing vid, also glad you were okay and made it safely to shore. gears can be replace even though it still sux to lose any.
Unlucky day mate. At least your alright and you got most of your gear back! Shit happens
Wilson!!!
I'm glad you're alright man, that could have been real bad.
This video confirms my decision to buy a Zodiac Cadet 310 (10'-2" inflatable) boat instead of getting a Hobie kayak for ocean fishing. An inflatable wouldn't have been bothered with those sea conditions, but a kayak....I'm sorry for all of your lost equipment. Glad you were able to recover and get back okay.
I bought a Sea Eagle Stealth Stalker that can be deflated and portable. It can be equipped with a 2.5 outboard motor. I think that it could have handled these waves much easier than the Hobie.
I have a 310, go bigger
19.5inch diameter tubes.
My airdeck gets blown around. Aluminium floor more stable for sea use
The submarine feature on the Hobie is very cool.
Thank You for sharing the video I'm glad your ok. The gear is replaceable.
I have to laugh at all the people that think this is some sort of design flaw that capsized the boat. It's really cut and dry. You can't turn the wrong direction into heavy surf, you will flip in any kayak or small boat for that matter. You can see where the mistake was made just as he was about to complete his turn at 1:30. For whatever reason, the boat was turned back to the right when a turn to the left a few more degrees was needed to head back with the direction of the waves. He got slammed on the side and it was all over.
Glad it ended well. Thanks for posting so others like myself can see what happens on these conditions.
Salmax Kayak, if u use a paddle, for real kayaking and u have the skills to broach, then this would not have happened...
damn man, glad you made it out
Good lessons learned, no bodily harm so no big deal... always tie down everything on deck... always... everything... I know because I learned the hard way
Now we know what to do. Go straight in and beach it for a while. Walk our equipment back to the car and pedal back with minimal cargo. Thanks for sharing.
Hey Corey,
That looked pretty intense, I am glad your ok. I am in the process of getting a PA-14 for great lakes fishing and I am definitely going to practice the capsize drill several times this season.
Glad you’re ok
Great video. Thank you. I’m on the fence between a PA12 & a PA14.
damn watch your lean dude you were caught off guard, always go with the waves, I zig zag through the current but when going with the current i go straight.
Bungee cords works great! Home Depot and places like them has bungee cord packs, works great in water!
You’re crazy man, you won’t catch me in that weather conditions.
Super video account! I was afraid for you. Your camera got it all and survived. I would have been floating around courtesy of my PFD...maybe hanging on to the boat, actually a trailing line, as the boat could be dangerous. Anyway, thanks for the adventure. Good work.
Hmmm, I have thought about these several times, but I fish over rough reefy ground and often in a swell or chop. There's something about having a paddle in your hand that improves your stability, and also paddle leashes on all your gear. I watched your video a couple of times and I can see where the mirage drive is drawn into the pull of the wave as it approaches (if you stand in the surf zone you can feel this pull as the wave approaches). Having used surf and open sea yaks (and with motors) I will stick with what I have - although the nu-canoes have got my attention. I think the mirage drive is a bit like a sail under you.
+John Malone - I fish and crab in my NuCanoe F12. Great stability in ocean conditions and I usually go with 2 people in it. Paddling is a little slow but I have recently fitted a 2hp motor and plan to troll for chinook
glad your okay and was wearing your PFD.
glad you made it back to shore ok . but one question why did you not have your gear secured with bungy cords.ad carabinered on to your kayak? I have al ll my rods and paddle attached to bungy cords which connect to the kayak..I just don't understand why so many kaykers don't do this?
Try using the paddle? It helps me a lot, especially when I get caught up on a breaker. Helps me keep the yak straight and if I get lucky I have a nice ride.
a paddle definite provide great ability to control.
I flipped mine today in Puget Sound, had a pdf and dry suite on, cold water drill. What i have learned is, do not get back on using the bow of the boat, get on like he did using the back of the boat, the front will take on water as you climb in making the yak unstable until you can dump the wanter.
Glade you made it in. Better to loose gear rather than your life. This is why I don’t plan to hit big water with my Kayak. It’s only a Slayer Propel 10
thanks for sharing this dude it's important for people to know that to write it you have to reach over the other side to flip it back
Glad you were smart to wear your pdf
Nice heads up video, thank you :-)
Sea conditions can change very quickly at Cape Conran , especially with a south/westerly change. A strong easterly can also present problems.
The big concern is that the boat ramp is a single lane so only one boat can be loaded at a time. This can be very frustrating and dangerous if there are lots of boats out and they all rush in when it blows up - especially if it is blowing from the west because there is little or no cover , so you just have to " tread water " and wait your turn on the ramp.
The jetty only accomodates 2 or 3 boats at a time.
thanks for sharing... good vid mate you learn from these events... these things happen all the time! you have helped me out a lot! you could of not shared this and i would still be carefree about weather changes! thanks...
Im going scubba diving to look for that rod hahahahaha
I'm glad you were ok.
Good job remaining Soo calm. I would have dropped a few m-fers Thank for posting reminder to be prepared
Corey Knogg how do you feel about the PA overall for tame sea conditions? I'm in Texas where flats fishing is really good on the interior, but opportunity is there to head out to rigs a coupe of miles out - so trying to pick the right yak for there and in gentle freshwater. How many miles could you comfortably put in over a six hour day, while fishing? Just trying to figure some of this out, input appreciated, because done have also said ride 135 is better overall. Thanks for the great vid.. Glad you came out of it safe!
Glad you are ok! Do you think if, you had the new pro angler upgrades " Keel and larger rudder" you would have still flipped over?
Do you think you would have capsized if you had been in a PA 14. I am trying to decide what I will buy.
That sucks glad your ok
All of the things floating were recovered later as they washed up. I lost one rod and reel lip grippers and a set of pliers multi tool. And a hand full of lures. Thanks fellas
I was in a familiar situation this past weekend. Try to get back into my kayak with no success. I had to buy the "rope ladder "much easier with less much effort.
Terrible luck, I got sad watching your rods sink. Hope you scuba and can go get it back! Glad you got out ok.
Certainly glad you are ok. Tell us what we can learn.
Wow, what a mess dude. I spose you learnt a valuable lesson though that if its not tied down you'll loose it. Good video and thanks for posting. Its easy to get overconfident in the ocean but glad you werent hurt on the reef. Did you loose the ice box as well?
Wow bad luck mate, feel for ya losing your fishing gear, but at least your ok, takle can be replaced, better luck next time,be safe.
I usual switch to handlines, one rod in the hull and keep my gear to minimal on choppy water like this. All you can lose is handline reels which cost 7 bucks each. And I caught big fish with em too.
The best video!!!!!
Wow! That sucks. Glad you got most of your gear back. Hopefully your using a rod leash now.
Glad youre alright mate
What a bummer. Definitely the one thing I hope to not have happen in my 14 foot PA. I am hoping the extra 2 feet help me with stability as I have no balance and don't want to add an outrigger of some type and the added drag it brings.
Viking profish reload is the best kayak for those kind of weather bro...
Learned from experience, not just siting back in seat . When weather and swell starts piling up . Leashes lanyards a must for everything. Glad it turned out ok .
Hi Steve. YES it was in the high position and I was aware it was and although it was a condition I was far better suited to being down this didn't play an effect. I was going in no matter what I did. It felt like the motion from a high side on a road bike. And no i font belive it was the bottom support as I don't recall re hooking it up. It was probably one of several leash ropes I had fixed next to me.
My 5c what could be done better:
1) Where is your marine radio?
2) You should keep your bow 90 degrees to the waves if you can and if wind blows 50 knots (I doubt it was), you should return to the shore immediately.
3) You should practice kayak reentry in the ocean.
4) Get rid of PA and buy outback 2018, PA is not created for open water. Outback is faster, handles wind and surf better, it is easy to flip back and easier to turn with just one powerful stroke.
Thanks Stan. Much appreciated.
SKETCHY! But it happens... At least you made it back. Gear is pricey but it can be replaced..
Nice movie !!!!... from a bad experience ... rod leashes could have saved you a lot of money ... I had to learn this lesson also ;-) ...
Sux about your Rod, at least you had the rest of your gear leashed & most of all you were OK. Great GoPro footage though! Nice looking reef under there.
I’ve done that a few times myself the pro angler is no good in rough conditions that’s why I purchased a outback recently for when I go offshore
I was just looking into kayak fishing when I saw your clip. If I am not wrong, I think the Pro Angler Series are designed more for freshwater usage. It drew me to it because it has a wide-base design which enables you to stand up to fish. But, apparently, that is not the stability you want for the sea. You need to sit much lower in a narrower craft like their Revolution Series.
Hi Alex. There are designed as a lineage boat.
I regularly go out in bays here in australia and inland estuary systems. No it is not an ocean going kayak. I had my father in my kayak more suitable for those conditions.
Weather forecast was fine and from 5knts to 10knts in the afternoon. It was dead calm and like glass when we initially went out.
This was a freak weather condition that hit in forecasted or warned for.
No the go pro didn't show the severity of how big the swell was. The second video was actually a lot calmer than the conditions of the go pro footage. I just wanted to know how the boat was actually handling and why I had no control or steering with the rolling swell going under me. This I well recognized after my video went up which had a big discussion on Hobie forum which in turn has had a bigger rudder upgrade and new models have a Kiel.
Still love the pro angler and they have great primary stability they just don't have secondary stability like an ocean going
scary and glad you are ok. besides the lost gear. next time in chop like that use your paddle. i find that it gives you more control when handling this type of conditions. glad it was shallow too.
imagine if it was deeper than that