2019 Hobie Outback, 8 Miles Offshore, NEVER AGAIN (S2 Ep34)
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Yes, this guy doesn’t know what he’s doing! Yes, it’s not his kayak it’s him! Yes, he didn’t prepare properly! Yes, he overloaded his kayak! Yes...Yes...yes...yes! Now that I’ve confirmed the assumptions of the Peanut Gallery. Here’s a little bit of insight. Daniel is a superb offshore kayaker with years of experience. I've been in the game since 2009 and have kayaked all types of water around the globe. This trip was planned for a month and we were just waiting for an opportunity to go. Between all three of us we had all the gear necessary for the day. My kayak was well under its weight limitations. I carried a medium size Hobie fish bag, an anchor, and a milk crate with three tackle trays. Powering the Lowrance is a FPV 17.5ah battery(feather light). One dry box with 8 GoPro batteries and that’s it. Now let it be known that I absolutely love my 2019 Outback and if given a second chance to buy something else. I'd still go with the Outback. It's that good. I'm just simply trying to convey that it didn't handle well in some pretty bad conditions. Honestly, I don't think many other kayaks would've did any better. I would never compromise my morals and values for personal gain. That's not me, it's not who I am. I call it like I see it, even if it means me slicing my own neck. It's what my leaders in the Marines loved about me. Be honest, state what's wrong and then figure out how to fix it. This trip was a personal experience that I felt needed to be shared. Are there others out there that can do better in those conditions? I'm sure of it. But to negate the fact that their skill level is on par with everyone else is downright negligent. I don't claim to be a Pro. At most I'm like everyone else, an intermediate kayak fisherman. So to pretend and edit the video like the kayak handled any different would be a lie. At the end of the day we're all different and your experience on the water could be better or worse. This was just how mine was. There’s a reason why we didn’t see any other small craft at the rigs on a weekend. Because we shouldn’t of been out there. The 2019 Outback is hands down better than its predecessor but it has limits and I found this out the hard way.
I hope y'all find the video informative and are able to take something away from it.
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That was a fun day on the water mAnGs!! Very adventurous... Hey Mark and Nick it was very nice meeting you guys, hopefully we can do this again in MUCH better conditions... like FLAT :)
Most definitely brother!
Yall were Rodeoing Mang!
Great breakdown! Thank you. Would the Hobie 13' 8" Professional Angler have been more robust in those ocean conditions?
beyondthebreaker don’t be a puss. Anyone can do this in flat calm conditions. Show us some extreme conditions and show us what you and the kayak is made of. Make sure you do this taking safety precautions tho :)
Sit on top kayaks are supposed to be water tight! no excuses!. Don't go out until you solve the leaking issues. These SOT kayaks were developed from river and ocean kayak designs but are generally much wider, thus the illusion of stability. When the going gets tough get your paddle out, it is your out-rigger. better yet take a river kayaking class and learn to use the paddle before you go way out.
Sometimes it's better to be on shore wishing you were out on the water, than to be on the water wishing you were back on shore!
maverickdallas100 ... (Sometimes?)
Very wise!!!!
It better to have insurance and not need it, or not to have it and need it>
Loooool
I think that's "always" better lol
Being brand new to kayaking, ( haven’t even purchased one yet ), this was an excellent video. Showed me the dangers of going off shore in rough windy conditions. I watch these videos to educate myself. The radio and bilge pump is not something I would have thought of. Thank you for making this.
Late to the party, but yes if you're going into big water a radio (Marine/VHF) is a must. Wear a life vest, bring a bilge pump. Familiarize yourself with re-entering your boat in case it gets rolled or you have to bail. Makes sure your hatches are properly sealed. Monitor the weather constantly, if you catch a hint of it going from mild to wild GTFO. Be familiar with tides (coming in/high tide? Going out/low tide?) and current patterns.
The ocean doesn't care about you. You learn how it works and show it respect or it *will* eat you. Be safe out there.
Hi ive been thinking about purchasing my very first kayak with no prior experience. What are some tips you can give to people such as myself to get started with a hobby like this?
@@Joselcastr0 +1
@@Joselcastr0 Join a kayak group. You can fish with other people and learn a ton. I'm about to purchase PA14 360 with all the bells and whistles. I'm going to install Lowrance Live9(with GPS), and an electric bilge pump. For some other security features, I'm carrying a flare, VHF radio, and an emergency entry rope (just in case I flip). I'm also installing a portable solar panel to recharge my battery when I'm fishing. So far, I'm looking at 8.5k.
If you are getting into Kayak Fishing buy a Hobie Pro Angler, this pussy was out in mild to gentle conditions over loaded with fishing equipment in the wrong kayak. I've been in 150 to 20 swells in an Outback, without taking on an spoonful of water.
Glad you found the limit and made it back safe to talk about it. Pick your days carefully.
More like pick your type of kayak better. He was in relatively smooth water, shallow surf, he comes off like a pussy, blaming the kayak.
@@maxwaters1461 I do not know anything about kayaking, but I do know this, I have seen way worse conditions with way better results on videos. Those conditions did not look beyond beginner conditions
I appreciate your honesty, man.
What year was the lime green Outback? Did it handle the conditions a little more gracefully?
2018 Outback. I bailed water 7 times and Nick had to do it 3. My kayak was faster through the water.
@@MDLRFishing Learn how to kayak, properly
I have always said: There is never a bad kayak trip unless someone dies.
You guys had a good day. Thanks for the video.
I worked on a supply boat in the Gulf of Mexico for 10 years , on jack up boats for another 10 years . Even on a flat calm hot dead day a small pop up summer thunder storm can ruin your day on a kayak , because you don’t have enough speed to outrun them and there is no shelter near by. Be sure you have a nice size insurance policy so your wife can support her new husband ! ! !
I don't understand why everybody is so readily accepting that this Hobie kayak allowed water that was simply splashing over the stern and bow into the hull. Apart from this it seemed absolutely fine. The seals on the hatches should not allow water into the hull that has simply splashed over the Kayak. That is not acceptable at all, it's a design fault. I'm not expecting the kayak to be waterproof if held under water, but I would expect those hatch doors to keep splashed water out. Too much to ask? I don't think so. It is very disappointing and concerning.
Always have your own bilge pump offshore and be safe out there brother! Also take baby steps, if that is your first time surf launching then don’t go 8 miles out. Glad you made it safe and we’re buddy boating!
Great advice.
Watching your videos made me wanna fish again. Love your videos love that your a dad and I find my self just watching all your videos now.
Offshore kayak fishing is BIG here in Hawaii for pelagics and LOTS of 2019 Hobie kayaks have been going up for sale after a few months for this reason. The older Outbacks dont have this issue in swell or even white caps but somehow Hobie failed to design it at least as good as the previous outback.
Jon, Which Kayak do you recommend? I am still researching for a new kayak next year. I would like to have my first PDL but is not easy to find a good comparison offshore video.
@@noctilucas I dont have a pedal kayak. The kayak I have is a Ocean Kayak Trident 15'. Its the 2nd to the last model with the huge center hatch for storing bigger pelagics. The newer ones have a track mounting system and less maximum weight capacity.
@@jdotndot Thank you. I am in a Big Game II 2015. I feel really safe in that Kayak, so if I move forward with a PDL I need to be confident to feel as safe as I am now.
@@noctilucas typically the longer and more narrow the kayak the faster you are and can cut through the water easier in bigger swell. I almost got the the big game cuz I'm a big dude at 6'2" and 285lbs. The trident 15 holds 575lbs max capacity and I can fly through current and wind here.
@@jdotndot you are correct.
Great video. Glad you made it back! Love watching someone local to me.
I have to say having watched a lot of American kayak fishing videos that they go for very large, heavy kayaks with deck chairs for seats. Then they load them up with all kinds of boxes and bags and gear. Such a craft would be heaven fishing calm inshore ponds but are not suitable for the sea where conditions can change in a heart beat and where a nimble buoyant and responsive craft is needed. If I was a kayak manufacturer and I built a kayak that took on water every time a wave slopped over the side of the kayak I would hang my head in shame. Well done to MDLR Fishing for showing real life problems that all of us can learn from.
Great video. Congratulations.
Just when the Outback 2019 was launched, its wide, wide-floating stern, and small freeboard, I realized that there was nothing to do with the versatile Hobie Outback until 2018. It's a kayak for rivers and calm waters.
Ótimo vídeo. Parabéns.
Apenas quando o Outback 2019 foi lançado, a sua popa larga, de popa flutuante e pequena, eu percebi que não havia nada a ver com o versátil Hobie Outback até 2018. É um caiaque para rios e águas calmas.
Diehard kayak guy here. I made the mistake of taking a kayak that was not made for the ocean out to far several years ago. Very scary. I never did it again. Mine was not made for water as rough as it got either. Needless to say my kayak was great. However it was not made for the conditions I got in. A great learning experience for me and I’ve never done it again. What was more concerning for me that day was the fact that I also had a shark curiously following me. Tied it in with the rough waves and I was scared, no doubt about it. You said it best ...It’s a good kayak but it’s not made for this kind of waves. I’m glad to hear you say that. I agree
Hindsight is always 20/20. I’m just glad I was able to learn without injury. I haven’t been out there since that day.
My wife and I both had 2016 Pro Angler 14s. We took them out on the lake in sketchy conditions just to try it out. We could duck back around a road embankment if it got too rough. We were in super rough water with a lot of wind and waves stacked close together. We maybe took on a cup or two of water. They floated high and rode over the waves rather than plough through them. I'm over 250 pounds and we had ice in the front hatch with full fishing gear. We felt safe. We just got tired of fighting the wind and waves after a while. We did this on several occasions.
Video showed us what we all need to know. For the commenters that are sure they can move through this wave action with no trouble, I will be watching for your video. MDLR is all cattle-no hat and I always appreciate that...
Thanks for showing that all boats /kayaks have limits. I went scuba diving with someone on a 20 foot power boat with 4-5' swells...it was NOT a fun experience:)
I agree 100% the leaky front hatch cover should be addressed by Hobie direct, however, a simple weatherstrip/improved front hatch gasket eliminates the water gushing in. On my 2017 Outback I constantly took on a bunch of water through the warping 8” round hatches. Reseated the rear hatch gasket and lubed appropriately and installed a rectangular hatch instead. Only minor dampness in the yak after these changes.
Personally I love Hobie left out the annoying black round hatches that warp so easily if you’re in the sun all day. If I ever decide to need an access in the rear of the yak, I’m installing a rectangular hatch to avoid the leakage issues.
The 2019 Outback handles is much faster and more agile than the previous Outback and PA14. Looking forward to the new Outback 👍😁
BionicWings same with my PA 14
How did u fit the rectanglular one over the odd shaped one ?
Bingo, another like. NONE of my hobie round hatches have warped, they are stored out of the sun, up-side down as Hobie recommends.
That’s a true way to test a kayak no doubt!
Thanks for the sobering video! I don't expect to ever go 8 miles offshore (or even 2 miles, for that matter) but I have had to face similar wave action in locations like the quarter mile wide Louisiana MRGO (Mississippi River Gulf Outlet) when I had to return 2 miles down this channel with 20 to 30 mph winds blowing straight down the channel. Worse case for inshore fishing I find is a strong wind bucking a strong tidal current - produces rollers down a deep channel! I fish from a Native Slayer Propel 13. I've had used Hobies before picking up the 2016 SP13, and there are times when I wish I had the hatch access and potential storage of my previous 2012 Outback. However, the SP13 has limited hull access via 2 very securely sealed points, and even after an 8 hour trip crashing through 2 foot waves, the most water I've found in my hull is literally a couple of ounces at best! I figure that minor some seepage occurs through the steering cables. My propel drive can't handle the inshore grass like Hobie's mirage drive, but there is something calming about a sealed hull that's built like a tank!
I think me and my buddy made it abt a quarter mile into lake ponchartrain from the tchefuncta before the swells almost flipped us both
Watching this video could literally save the life of someone who is considering taking an Outback 2019 offshore. If you were on your own without a bilge pump who knows what would have happened. I think it is wrong to blame the conditions and not the kayak. The Outback has two design flaws - 1. Takes water over the bow easily and 2. Front hatch is not waterproof. The old outback or a viking profish would have been OK in those conditions.
Very informative video. Elephant in the room is water leaks. Need to fix. Boats sink and or become unstable with water in the hull. Second point; bilge pump was one of the first purchases for my 2018 Outback. It will be relocated to within reach when venturing offshore. Lastly, the 2019 OB is not as versatile but still a great kayak imho and meant for calmer conditions.
The old outback takes water too.
So true and the pro-angler hatches seem to be even worse. The original idea of a sit on top kayak was to have a sealed hull which will not fill with water and scuppers to drain water from the deck thus making them able to cope with surf and offshore conditions. Hatches should be sufficiently waterproof to allow for water splashing onto the deck and also allow time for revovery in case of capsize.
I would probably agree. I ride an older Outback, and I've taken it out in worse conditions than that. It took in a little water (understandable), but not enough where I constantly had to bilge. But hey, at least my hands were free to fish and/or bilge :)
You can make the hatch waterproof. Plenty of how to videos on here
I'm gonna admit-- I'm not a kayak fisherman. I just like getting out on the water. But, regarding Hobies... I've taken my Adventure Island out in rougher conditions than that (because when the wind's up, I love sailing, and the wind is often accompanied by larger swells), and none of my hatches have leaked to any significant or noticeable amount (the interior of the main hull looked damp, but no water sloshing around at all, after bringing the boat in) even though I was routinely taking lots of water over the bow and I was thoroughly soaked. Not sure if there's a difference in design/layout for the bow hatch on the adventure island vs. the forward hatches on an outback, but seems to me like the Island series is well-built for ocean use and handles it well (I'm So Cal based, so it's the coastal Pacific Ocean I'm used to being out on-- the swells you were filming looked like a normal, pretty nice day for where I'm at, not unusually rough at all). Come to think of it though, I might also have less trouble with my hatches because I never open them except to check for water at the end of a day out-- since I'm not fishing, the stuff I usually do take fits in my seat-back bag (or my cup-holders).
Although also worth noting-- I still carry a bilge pump with me just in case, and any time I'm leaving the harbor (which is most of the time for sailing) I do carry a radio and a personal locator beacon in addition to my life-jacket (also several chem-lights and a flashlight, just in case something's gone very wrong and I'm still out after dark-- I do know some of y'all plan night expeditions for the fishing, but for recreational sailing my plans generally include being back at my launch point by sunset). If you're gonna go out off-shore, you need to carry your safety gear-- hopefully you won't actually need it, but if you do there is NO substitute for having it.
Thank you for this video, I’m in the market for a kayak, and your video is narrowing it down more, and more.
Find the beach rip and use it to take you out. Water takes you out and less waves. Use a simple hand pump with a small pipe extension to bale water out. Malibu X-Factor 14 handles swell and I have the yakgear outriggers for extra stability
Chin up. I get swamped like that all the time in lakes when boat wakes bounce off the shore and double up on the incoming sets. Keep the bilge pump handy!!
And you probably do not stop pushing you're way through that surf, like this guy did.
I wouldn't have gone in any kayak in those conditions. Don't ever let your wants over ride your best judgment.
Great video. I totally agree with you. The 2019 had the hull revision so as to be a sharper nose, less hull slapping design to get more speed out of it. It definitely is about 0.5 mph faster. But I have kept my 2018 hull design for use in rougher water. The older design also sits about 2 inches higher above the waterline and keeps the water spray off my face and body. Thanks for sharing your experience, and I totally agree with you. The 2019 Outback is good for those boys who fish the glass top lakes of muddy water, you need the older hull for offshore salt-water. I would suggest an electric bilge pump modification for your 2019.
That was calm water. If you want an experience, go to lake Erie.
FrostieV
Yup that thing would be on the bottom
Good video and great advise! I have a Jackson Kraken 15.5, I have no problem in those conditions.
Stealth performance. Best offshore kayaks. They excel in the slop. I use a Fisha 500 for the slop and a hobie pa when its flat.
I want to get a Kayak for near shore fishing but this is my biggest concern. Getting water in the hull when offshore. Is this a common problem with kayaks? I thought they were sealed well?
They all have different shapes and sizes. Some are better than others but there's no such thing as an all around kayak in my opinion. I've used this kayak only once offshore (this video) and once nearshore (500 yards from the beach). It did fine going through the breakers during the nearshore trip and it was a lot calmer that day. My honest opinion for offshore trips, get a better kayak suited for that style of fishing (Hobie AI or TI). Good luck with your decision.
I live in WA on an island in Puget Sound. We would have a Small Craft Advisory out for those conditions. You're lucky.
I notice you have a rope going into the front storage which is presumably not allowing that gasket to do its job. Is that wicking water into the hull?
I would prefer an Islander for fishing near an offshore rig like what the white one appears to be. (Blue paddle/surf board on the out-rigger arms)
It is rough trying something like you did in this video so I give you kudos for even trying.
Good information, and good on you for sharing it. I have one question: Do you know how so much water got into your hull? Was it waves breaking over a leaky front hatch? Seems to me that should not ever happen. I'm a fan of yaks with an open tank well instead of a front hatch. Less potential for trouble.
I looked at the Outbacks, but decided a little MORE Kayak might be better for where I fish. The second time I took my 10.5 Titan out, the winds blowing 15 to 20, with gusts over 25 and waves/swells over 3 to 4 feet high (I won't do that again, either!). I never took any waves over the bow, but nearly broached turning around and going with the wind. It WAS an "experience" I'll not soon forget. Haha! I love my Titan and tried the Outback of a friend. They both have good points, but I can "backpedal" when fishing and get a Big one on! And, there's lots of stumps just below the surface, where I normally fish.
I liked the video, but even I would be "hard-pressed" to take mine out 8 miles offshore!
Wow dude that kayak is loaded down.glad to see you made it back
I completely agree. I have the Outback as well. The ocean is just too much water for a sit on top Kayak. As long as it’s smooth, and you’re not taking in water, you’re fine. But when the ocean kicks up, forget it. You’re way under “boated.” I know what I’m talking about cause I’m a Whaler owner and my Boston Whaler thrives in open, rough, ocean. Sit on top Kayaks are used out there all the time, but you’re gambling with your life!
So awesome that y’all pray before going out! Tight lines
CRIS DEBEER just did his review of the kayak. Go support. His videos are amazing. 🙃
Just bought a 19 outback, and it came with a top seal rubber to stop that problem, yet to test it, but will, great vids mate, cheers.
Thanks for your video and your honesty. I think Hobie has a real problem with this kayak. I've heard similar reports from others.
Yep - I've gotten messages from at least 5 people now on this issue.
I’m thinking about getting offshore too, but I’m thinking about adding outriggers because the unpredictable swells scare the shit out of me
I have Hobie stabilizers and it helps a lot in our rough waters in Hawaii, especially when we fish in 11-14 mph winds, I’ve fished in small boat advisory conditions (By accident) and my Hobie 2020 Outback performed well, but I went back in as fast as possible.
Fishing iff maui?
Considering one for big island
Good educational video
Us norcal guys call that childs play lol
I’ve owned a couple of Hoie Outbacks and they are a great kayak if used as intended, in estuaries and calm water. What you did there was both brave and foolish!
I've got a few interesting additions including a D battery pump and Outriggers on my Mirage Duo. Also there are a couple options for electric motors that you can run up front. Nonetheless that's a lot of water you're right
What good is a kayak that doesn't float when it get wet?? That is the whole point of using a kayak. I would find a different kayak if I were you.
Explorer Mike for $3,000 plus tax kayak I would say that was a bad spent investment....
This is part of whats wrong with kayak fishing these days. Its guys doing things that they are horribly under qualified to do. The conditions in this vid were great. It irritates me guys like this are who are considered the "leaders" of our sport. He shouldve inspected his kayak, shouldve had a bilge or a sponge. Its people like this telling unsuspecting newcomers to this sport he wrong info that will get someone hurt.
First of all on launch wait for the breaks in the tide. Then check your weather
Of course he ignored this comment, doesn't feed his low self image.
Viking profish reload is the best kayak for offshore fishing bro...
This video is kind of scary to be on the kayak and a large body of water like that with those swells seems really foolish but I appreciate the video. It would be a good setup for a horror movie.
I read every comment on here just to see if anyone else is having the same problem with the 2019 Outback. And yes it seems there is a problem with all of them. Don't know if they can do a recall on them, don't know how they'd fix the problem but, if they don't fix it sales on the Outback will go way down. Probably not enough to matter.
Never go offshore without an automatic submersible bilge pump, a hand pump and kayak stabilizers. A lifejacket also helps along with shark repellent.
Hey Mark I applaud you for doing some offshore on your kayak. My buddy wants me to give it a try im leaning to not even doing it .next time mark u go off shore let one of your buddies take u out on his big boat and make a video out of it that would b awesome catching some king fish.
I'm glad youbaren't an airline pilot with judgement like that.
Wow. As much as the Outback costs I would think the hatches would seal better. I've taken tons of water over the bow of my Ocean Kayak Torque and its always dry on the inside. Check your seals. I clean mine every spring.
Well did they make the 2020 outback any better ?
I have a 2019 outback and have already been in conditions ALOT worse than that. Not a drop of water was in the hull. Did you have the plug screwed all the way in? Was the bow hatch latched down? Was the storage bin latched down? You need to check all those things. One or more of them is probably the problem or you have a hole in your brand new yak. As for the water coming over the bow- that is normal. In relationship to the kayaks gunnel height to the wave height- I would compare that to a 16' boat in 10' seas. You will take water over the bow- not a big deal. It's called kayaking and you will get wet in conditions like that.
This guy whines a lot. 2019outback , and a 2014 ascend 128T has been in way worse conditions. never taken on that much water in either.
Well yay for you. The singular dry 2019 outback. Its garbage.
Been in worse in my PA. No water in Hull. You don't want to get wet buy a boat.
I had fear just watching you! Thank goodness that 'REASON prevailed',.. and you headed back to the safety of land! I am glad you survived such challenging conditions, Mark!!
Had reason prevailed they wouldn't have attempted that.
I just watched your video and I am wondering if you have done this or will do this in your OT 136? I’m thinking about getting the OT 136 so I’m curious what do you think and also do you load and offload your 136 by yourself and how difficult is it
I will never consider doing this with the Autopilot. It’s not an offshore kayak, it’s way to slow.
Man mark that's was risky , glad you guys made it back safe brotha
My buddies and I recently took our 2016 Outbacks out on a day with similar conditions and it was nerve racking because the waves were coming from all different directions and you had to have you head on a swivel. We decided to come back after getting half a mile offshore. The trip back was even worse because the waves were now behind us and we were at their mercy. No water in the hull though, thankfully. I'm glad you knew when to call it a day. There's always inshore fishing available right?
I've had the same problem, particularly while whitewater kayaking, and the solution I came up with to guarantee a minimum about of buoyancy was to utilize two cheap 30 liter wet bags that I filled with air before sealing - one in the bow, and other for the stern. Then it can be completely full of water and still float just fine. There are inflatables you can buy for that specific purpose, but they're ridiculously expensive.
"The surf does not look too bad" - I like your positive thinking lol The surf looked pretty bad to me even on video. I usually do not take more than 5 lbs of ice offshore. This 2019 model looks pretty heavy on the waves to me. I just came from Los Buzos, we got into pretty nasty storm there with 20 mph wind and I was surprised how well Outback 2018 performed. However, it takes too much water! My slayer 10 a little worse on big waves, but it stays completely dry! We could not return to lounge because of high tide and rocks. But I caught my rooster and broomtail grouper there.
Thank for vid, it convinced me even more not to buy 2019 outback. I am still considering buying 2018.
The 2019 is way better than the previous models. The 2018 Outback still took water on as well. Just not as much. Plus I’m not sure who is going to be trying to fish in those conditions anyways.
Awesome that you got a rooster! Los Buzos is amazing! Same thing happened to us during my trip there.
I am not buying this yak if this kayak can't handle waves then why buy it
For the other 90% of fishing that most people do? Ya know.. lakes, ponds, bays...
That yak was not designed for offshore use. When u go offshore u need a longer kayak to cut through swells. The shorter the kayak the more its gonna get pushed around. Out of all the hobie yaks, the only ones that are really made for offshore use are the new revolution, the adventure and the adventure island.
The pro angler will get the job done but u will sweat. The boat is heavy as fuck is still lacking length which means u will get pushed around.
So blaming a road bike for not performing well in mountain bike terrain is just not fair
@@attiumeyami417 He'd be better off in the Pro Angler, he is to big a pussy for the revolutions, he's dump them for sure.
Kayak he is using is fine. HE just needs to learn how to kayak.
I don’t kayak fish, but I don’t even enjoy going offshore in my center console fishing boat in those conditions. I’m trying to wrap my head around why someone would do it in a kayak. Then again I have never done or attempted it, is this a common thing? If it is blowing over 10 knots I know it’s going to be nasty out there and generally it only gets worse. The gulf can churn up in to a real washing machine fast, I can’t imagine being in a kayak when it goes from 10-12 knots to 15-20 with 2-3 white capping waves. I never pay attention to the wave forecast only the wind. I have seen 1 to 1.5 foot forecasts at 4 seconds with 14 knot winds out of the east only to find out that the wind waves and swells are much different and that is darn right nasty out there. Thanks for the good video this may honestly save some people’s lives. The ocean is nothing to play around with. If you are out 4 miles and it’s us already blowing 10 plus and a storm pops up you can be in trouble in a hurry no matter what vessel you are in.
Completely agree and this is why I’ll never do it again. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
Sorry to state the obvious but when you are taking on water you should not continue to go out. And you did not have a pump of your own? What happens if the guy with the pump can't be reached?
In big water one should prepare accordingly. Think of it as if everyone was on their own.
I gotta say you guys have ⚽⚽ for going out there!!!!! Thanks for the honest review. Also glad u made it back?
Glad you made it back safely. Thanks for the info. I think that you camera hat needs an oil change.
Why did you guys skip the best part of the video. I wanted to see you guys get swamped coming in to shore:)
Just get a twin outrigger l the size like the expendable craft. The kayak will never roll. The longer the better. If your boat sink, sharks may eat you 😁😁😁
The sea doesn't even look that rough. An ocean kayak should be able to handle it.
Isn't there a plug to get water out, not in?
If you had an Ocean Kayak there would have been far less cryin about the swells. Ocean kayak is made for heave waves and chop, as long as it is sealed you will not take water. A little common sence would tell you to put your weight in the body of the kayak and seal it AKA your cooler. use the hatch holes
Honestly I'm happy you are back I love fishing but not like that but good video
How was the surf landing? Have been waiting to see surf landing in actual surf since Aliex's video.
When I saw the new outback I hoped it was going to be better for big water but that doesn't appear to be the case. Still waiting for a boat in between the Outback and Revo built to handle rough water and cover ground but also have a bit more stability and room for gear then Revo.
I thought they were sealed so water would pass through them without effecting buoyancy with water tight compartments?
Question for you.... Do you have both the upper and lower gaskets installed on the hatch? I ask because I am looking for a kayak for off shore and I heard the fixed that issue with the gaskets. Thanks for the video.
I don’t have the top gasket installed.
Good thing you had that tow.
I don’t think I’d want to be in any kayak in those conditions.
Should have bought a revo 16 if you really want to eight miles out in a good swell both revo 13 and 16 will punch through swells and be quick getting there
How long did it take to go 8 miles?
Close to two hours and it was scary painful.
LOL Didn't need a video to tell me that the Outback isn't an offshore kayak, even stuffed with flotation.
There are bigger boats that shouldn't be out there.
Not sure why the kayak would take on water the seal must be screwed up. Never taken on water in any of my hobbies and I’ve been in rough conditions with water coming over top and the inside was dry. That said ain’t no way I’m going 8 miles out.
Why do people buy Hobie kayaks and suddenly think they can take on 4-5 foot waves just because you overpaid for a kayak?!
About how long did it take you to paddle out or did you get towed like you did coming back?
Took 3.5 hours both ways.
U have a Esho with ur Hobie kayak I gas maybey a letal hol some where I have the pro 14. Year 2014 and gos offshore like it's rivar very stable and dry all the way ..
Should be self bailing with no bilge pump!! Where is the guys hat?
"WE GOING TO NEED A BIGGER BOAT."
What kind of radio do you have? I have a moken 12.5 and iv been wanting to of a few miles out. What would you recommend?
It’s a Standard horizon hx870. Great radio!
Digging your buddys rig with the sail.interested in know more about it
You got some balls dude
I have to say that I have a Pescador Pilot and it takes a beating offshore, I have yet to take on water. Dont get me wrong Hobie is nice in its ways but I dont think its worth the money.
What size swells were you experiencing offshore and what would be the max swell size that you would be comfortable with? Thank you!
It’s hard to explain. The swells don’t bother me. It’s when the winds start generating swells to come from different directions. It’s also when the swells hit you every few seconds. Those are what I don’t like. In Panama I fished in huge swells but they were long rolling ones. Not sure if this makes sense.
Do a part 2!!!
You have some big balls, after seeing this I am going to leave mine in my wife's purse
Oh geez kenneth
thts like nothing to me..nahhhhh it dont scared me at all..its soo smooth..lol
Now I'm a sailor. I was born for the ocean. But I ain't going out there in no kayak.
😂 I shouldn’t of been out there in those conditions for sure.
Me either !
i'll go out in a 1436 jon with a 5 horse on the back before i would get past the sheltered bays in a kayak.
@@MDLRFishing Pussy. Next time go out in those gentle swells in a proper fishing kayak, or since you don't fish leave all the that fishing gear on the beach. The Outback is a very stable recreational kayak, it is NOT meant to loaded down with fishing gear