My girlfriend bought a 2012 FFE with 27,000 miles on it for $11,800 from a dealer. In mint condition. There a lot of deals out there on used electrics. However, they depreciate fast because EV's are changing fast
The Focus EV has a radiator ask me how I know, I own one. The air intake is on the bottom below the "Aston grill", the upper part of the grill is not necessary. The liquid cooling system of the Focus is a huge advantage over the Leaf and increases it's real world range by 8-16 miles.
So much for knowing what you are comparing... the Leaf has NO battery management and the batteries are toast in 3 years making the car range next to nothing. The FFE has battery management cooling - heating to protect the battery so it lasts much longer. HUGE difference
@@DavidRamseyIII Thank you. I suppose that the feeling is mutual, given the fact that you're watching this video right now. I miss Cooley's reviews. He's one of the best car reviewers, as far as I'm concerned.
@@DavidRamseyIII Did they move him, or did he choose to be moved? I wonder which one was it. I vaguely recall something about it being his choice, but I'm probably wrong on that.
looks no diffrent than the other cars out there. Anyway, fully Electric is the best solution we could have. I live in Canada, I see solar power everywhere! it is literally Free fuel.
I live in Canada too! I own one of these, one of the best cars I've ever had to be honest. It looks nice, rides nice and saves me a lot of money a year on fuel! I'm glad I bought it. I bought a used 2012 model for about 9 thousand dollars, I have to admit I'm happy! Ford has done a great job!!
The battery replacement cost won't make a big difference in the grand scheme of things, over say 10 years of ownership if an owner has to replace it and the cost is $2k more for the Leaf that's only $200/year or less than $20/month. What'll make a much larger impact on cost to own are cost to purchase/depreciation and insurance costs.
The best way to acquire an EV is to lease it, $35-40K is way too much for only a $7500 tax credit, Ford gave us a 12,750 credit on our lease and GA gives it's $5,000 income tax credit for leasing or purchasing an EV. You can lease a FFE or Leaf for $200-300 a month with around $800-1,000 due at signing. Considering that after you drive it 30-40,000 miles an EV will be a vastly more devalued asset than the manufacturer is charging you to lease it also the batteries have a "shelf life" and will certainly not be as good as new at the end of the lease period.
I'm waiting until EV's have 300 mile range batteries, are compatible with Tesla's superchargers and cost $20,000 before I adopt the technology. I have a few more needs but those are my must haves.
Those are unrealistic, unnecessary needs, you obviously don't have a very good understanding of EVs, real world driving habits and you will NEVER get an EV with those specs for $20,000 PERIOD. You might as well move on it isn't going to happen . A 300mile range would require a battery so large that the car would be less efficient getting less miles per kw/hr. 95% of people don't drive more than 100 miles a day during normal use, time on ordinary 240V public stations can easily allow nearly 200 miles a day if you start from home full 20kw(usable of 23kw total) x $0.12 = $2.40 and charge for 5 hours during the day while out and about at said run of the mill 240v stations for a cost of $5 vs $4 a gallon getting the cost equivalent of 108 mpg. A Tesla Model S 85kw gets 89 mpge, goes 250-300 miles on a good day and costs over $75,000 with no options and would require high voltage stations to charge overnight from home.
No, not at all, I think it's a fair question. You're idea seems great for future models but on current motors you only have 1 "gear" so to speak. Speed is managed by how fast the motor is spining (hence the higher RPMs) because the drive train is attached directly to the wheels and not through a series of gears and prop shafts requiring different gear ratios. It's kind of primitive when you think about it because electric motors are pretty simple and straight forward devices.
YOU MISSED THE MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION!! Can you get an extra battery to extend the drive time. Is it an iphone or an android in its ability to customize to the drivers needs...
I really cant see your argument. 1)What use is cheap electricity when the car is £15,000 more than an equivalent gas car. Even at todays fuel costs I don't think you could ever be ahead with electricity 2) I can't speak for the US but in the UK they seem to be leasing the batteries at a huge long term cost. 3) They may have more charging stations but nothing like existing gas stations 4) How can you keep it a long time when the battery will be worthless in 8 years and the battery is a huge cost
Need more charging statons to make a fully electric car practical. The Chevy Volt has a gas powered generator to keep the car running as long and as far as you need. The Chevy Volt is fully electric up to 40 miles per charge.
I would like to point out that I am not trying to be pessimistic. I have for years kept hoping a viable electric car would come along. I actually went to look at the Renault the other day. I love technology and would love to see them succeed but am continuously disappointed by what is on offer - especially when the cost is dressed up as something that is not - so pleas don't try to make out that I am stupid or working for the oil companies or whatever reason you don't like other opinions.
Electricity has way more torque than Diesel. I'm not sure where you got your facts but electric motors get roughly a 90% efficiency while diesel is at about 50% to 70%. Meaning 90% of the energy released to the motor actually makes it your wheels and 50%/70% in contrast. I wish they would just create something that is ridiculously efficient... I am in the upper 5% of drivers who drive anywhere from 300-500 miles a weeks so I would love this...
What holds the electric car back has always been the cost of the batteries. What is generally not known and understood is that those costs are artificially held high. But that's another topic for another time. My point is that those conditions that CoolGuyRuss discusses can be challenged. And if not today then tomorrow depending on how the technology improves. They really are shaky arguments.
I have owned this car (same color) for a year. Best car ever owned. Charge is not as expensive as he says. Also, oddly enough. I only charge with a normal 110 volt. Always have. I'm cheap. I admit it. I'll use a public charge (on rare occasion) to top up fast. In order to handle my typical 40 mile day, I can't work a long night at the office if I am to rely on the 110 to top up by morning. Our other car is a crew cab tundra LOL. We have had no issues. BTW, the ford app for the car works great at first, but it is now useless. Good sound system too. Very quiet and luxurious. Tried the leaf. Total nerd car. sorry.
Seems to me the Tesla S could work for you with that 85Kwh battery with an additional battery range extender in that frunk. With a 400+ mile range,, even with a degradation down to 80% in battery capacity in 10 years,, you could live with that. But batteries are expensive and in anycase there's something to be said for a small ICE spinning a generator for range extension.
"am waiting for the tech to mature" Understood! To me the tech is mature when it's a 20Kwh battery for the local driving and ICE for the distance driving. But for the pure electric it's mature when it's 100Kwh battery. Tesla came close with that 85Kwh battery to cover both local and distance.
Gets less range due to the fact that its still a steel body, all they did was convert a current car they have into an EV with no thought of in design. For example why is the battery in the trunk when it could of been designed to be underneath the car.
When we leased our FFEV they weren't even offering a charging station at the dealer and a 30amp 240v station was still going for $900-1000. They are down to $700-800 now and a 15amp 3.3kw is down to $500-600. We actually won an Eaton 32amp that does up to 7.2kw with a little future proofing at a raffle during national plug in day. But we don't need it, haven't hooked it up to the house we lease. My wife drives 75 miles a day round trip to and from work and plugs the car in to a 110v outlet at home and until recently before her work got a 240v station used 110v on both ends and it worked fine. Unless you intend to drive over 90 miles a day or can't charge at one end of commute you won't need a 240v. Our car actually spends a lot of time plugged in not charging at home on 110v.
Question? Do you have a range issue to deal with? or is it a styling issue? Either car is going to have plus's and minus's to deal with. The real question is needs versus wants versus affordability. I can look at the two cars and will probably come up with a very different conclusion than you would. In today's world of expensive gas and batteries You'd think you'd see many more series hybrids with a 20Kwh battery,, which would be the norm. But you don't see that at all. Hmm!,,
But wouldn't a CVT be beneficial for harvesting the mountains of torque produced by the electric motors without having them spool up using more amperage? People complain about CVTs on gasoline cars because of the static/whining sound, this would not be the case on EVs; and it could make the annoying EV sound better as it spools up. I'm not sure how high rpm electric motors go, but CTV could potentially increase an EV's top speed as well. Or I'm just talking horseshit... lol Just wondering :)
It seems to me the tech is there alright,, it's the cost of batteries that isn't there yet. In looking at Kwh versus miles,, The 20Kwhr battery should be the benchmark for the PHEV. The 40Kwh battery should the benchmark for a pure EV for strictly local range range only. Then the 100Kwh battery should be the benchmark for the pure EV for 300+ miles for both local and distance range. No one wants range or battery anxiety,, but with these guidelines electrics can sell.
"I don't want to study that much." Why not? You'll be living with this car for the next 10 years. Might as well get as much information out of the gauges as you possibly can .
Apart from the batteries and the charger is quite simple , especially compared to a very complicated internal combustion engine which has at minimum 40 moving parts. An electric motor has very few parts and only 1 moving parts is relatively simple I think even the charger is simple to build and manufacture as well so why haven't electric cars taken over? Trillions of dollars of oil still left the the Earth's crust, the Technology "will improve" when it is only hundreds of dollars i
I like how everyone has been brainwashed into thinking the majority of our oil comes from the Middle East. First off, 55% of our oil is domestic. The foreign country that exports most of their oil to the U.S is actually Canada, who produces around 9% of our oil. The next largest supplier is Venezuela (~4.9%), and then Saudi Arabia (~4.7%). Actually, our imports are declining, and are at their lowest levels since the 1980's.
This car is a 'Local' or 'City' car. Not a 'distance' or 'Road trip car'. The batteries just aren't good enough for the 'Road Trip'. The Solution? Park it and use your other car. The one with the ICE in it! Or get a hybrid or electric with a range extender in it. The question is,,,Are you a one car person or a two car person? everyone's needs are going to be different! One things for sure,,with the cost of gas high,,the electrics are coming and are here to stay!
Solectria Sunrise, try that over the internet and I think you will find it had already done a test at 75mph over 225 miles in 1999 on NMIH batteries ( yeah the older laptop batteries as lithium has now taken over so I would say the technology is there and could be made cheaply en mass, also Tesla (though to be fair those are rich guy's toys, and the ELLCIA electric car capable of 250mph) oh yes and the technology,
I think electric cars will start to take over gas cars very soon and gas companies know this. the price of gas now is just about right to make the most profits. If they charge anymore it will be worth it to buy an electric car or make your own. Maybe once the distance for electric cars is very close to gas cars you will see most people changing in about a year.
lets see 40,000K for a ford EV that can only go about 100 miles per charge or a Tesla Model S that cost around 50,000K and can go 300 milers per charge. I think ill go with the Tesla Model S that extra 200 miles is a good amount for that extra 10K
I'm happy about Fords decision to make electric cars. At 30K with rebate it's well within reach of the common folk. For the rich there is Tesla's Model S. Both classes can now make the difference. For the very rich, there are million dollar electric cars. Get them!
This is an electric car in a gasoline car chassis with this heavy battery pack in the back which gives the car a bad center of gravity and handling.. i find the tesla model s way better than any other electric car.
That rotating charge port door actually lasts a long time. It's 2020 and mine is still 100% functional on a 2015 model.
My girlfriend bought a 2012 FFE with 27,000 miles on it for $11,800 from a dealer. In mint condition. There a lot of deals out there on used electrics. However, they depreciate fast because EV's are changing fast
The Focus EV has a radiator ask me how I know, I own one. The air intake is on the bottom below the "Aston grill", the upper part of the grill is not necessary. The liquid cooling system of the Focus is a huge advantage over the Leaf and increases it's real world range by 8-16 miles.
So much for knowing what you are comparing... the Leaf has NO battery management and the batteries are toast in 3 years making the car range next to nothing. The FFE has battery management cooling - heating to protect the battery so it lasts much longer. HUGE difference
Why is Cooley so good at his job. I never get bored watching his car tech
I wish it had a 30 minute DC fast charge feature. I test drove it in Indiana and really liked it.
I watched this video years ago, yet I still remember the blooper (for some reason).
You’re a true fan!
@@DavidRamseyIII Thank you. I suppose that the feeling is mutual, given the fact that you're watching this video right now.
I miss Cooley's reviews. He's one of the best car reviewers, as far as I'm concerned.
@@thearousedeunuch couldn’t agree more mate. I’ll never understand why cnet moved him . He is missed
@@DavidRamseyIII Did they move him, or did he choose to be moved? I wonder which one was it. I vaguely recall something about it being his choice, but I'm probably wrong on that.
You are correct sir. The only moving part of the car, per se, is the shaft in the motor. The huge maintenance is for the battery pack.
Keep em comin. Love this show. When yt replaces tv. Ill be watchin this everyday.
this comment aged quite well
looks no diffrent than the other cars out there.
Anyway, fully Electric is the best solution we could have.
I live in Canada, I see solar power everywhere!
it is literally Free fuel.
I live in Canada too! I own one of these, one of the best cars I've ever had to be honest. It looks nice, rides nice and saves me a lot of money a year on fuel! I'm glad I bought it. I bought a used 2012 model for about 9 thousand dollars, I have to admit I'm happy! Ford has done a great job!!
@@ὙπερήφανοςῬωμῃός do you still have it. How is/was it. How was long term maintenance?
No electric cars have massive draw backs. A hybrid is the best solution
Cooley slowing down time. That's wassup.
Replacing the battery in this car would be a breeze compared to the Leaf. More room (leaf) or cheaper maintenance(focus)?
The battery replacement cost won't make a big difference in the grand scheme of things, over say 10 years of ownership if an owner has to replace it and the cost is $2k more for the Leaf that's only $200/year or less than $20/month. What'll make a much larger impact on cost to own are cost to purchase/depreciation and insurance costs.
The best way to acquire an EV is to lease it, $35-40K is way too much for only a $7500 tax credit, Ford gave us a 12,750 credit on our lease and GA gives it's $5,000 income tax credit for leasing or purchasing an EV. You can lease a FFE or Leaf for $200-300 a month with around $800-1,000 due at signing. Considering that after you drive it 30-40,000 miles an EV will be a vastly more devalued asset than the manufacturer is charging you to lease it also the batteries have a "shelf life" and will certainly not be as good as new at the end of the lease period.
I'm waiting until EV's have 300 mile range batteries, are compatible with Tesla's superchargers and cost $20,000 before I adopt the technology.
I have a few more needs but those are my must haves.
Those are unrealistic, unnecessary needs, you obviously don't have a very good understanding of EVs, real world driving habits and you will NEVER get an EV with those specs for $20,000 PERIOD. You might as well move on it isn't going to happen . A 300mile range would require a battery so large that the car would be less efficient getting less miles per kw/hr. 95% of people don't drive more than 100 miles a day during normal use, time on ordinary 240V public stations can easily allow nearly 200 miles a day if you start from home full 20kw(usable of 23kw total) x $0.12 = $2.40 and charge for 5 hours during the day while out and about at said run of the mill 240v stations for a cost of $5 vs $4 a gallon getting the cost equivalent of 108 mpg. A Tesla Model S 85kw gets 89 mpge, goes 250-300 miles on a good day and costs over $75,000 with no options and would require high voltage stations to charge overnight from home.
Brian's back awesome......
If everybody was doing his job as good as Cooley, the world would be a much better place to live in!!!
No, not at all, I think it's a fair question. You're idea seems great for future models but on current motors you only have 1 "gear" so to speak. Speed is managed by how fast the motor is spining (hence the higher RPMs) because the drive train is attached directly to the wheels and not through a series of gears and prop shafts requiring different gear ratios. It's kind of primitive when you think about it because electric motors are pretty simple and straight forward devices.
Brian has been back for a few weeks now.
Well done! Love them eV cars
YOU MISSED THE MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION!!
Can you get an extra battery to extend the drive time. Is it an iphone or an android in its ability to customize to the drivers needs...
So where is this car, not seen one in the UK or advertised by Ford at all.
When will they make an electric card PLUS a solar panel?
Great car, great review, funny ending!
Love the ending. If you want to get your camcorder fixed let me know I'm a tech for a repair shop.
Brian's back!!!!!
I really cant see your argument. 1)What use is cheap electricity when the car is £15,000 more than an equivalent gas car. Even at todays fuel costs I don't think you could ever be ahead with electricity 2) I can't speak for the US but in the UK they seem to be leasing the batteries at a huge long term cost. 3) They may have more charging stations but nothing like existing gas stations 4) How can you keep it a long time when the battery will be worthless in 8 years and the battery is a huge cost
How come tesla cars don't have that electric engine on front? It looks like a typical Internal combustion Engine
Marcelo Surville Tesla's have it under the floor.
LOL Cooley. Does he work the cameras all the time?
Need more charging statons to make a fully electric car practical. The Chevy Volt has a gas powered generator to keep the car running as long and as far as you need. The Chevy Volt is fully electric up to 40 miles per charge.
lolz at the camera drop ....
even when cooley fails he is still epic ...
I would like to point out that I am not trying to be pessimistic. I have for years kept hoping a viable electric car would come along. I actually went to look at the Renault the other day. I love technology and would love to see them succeed but am continuously disappointed by what is on offer - especially when the cost is dressed up as something that is not - so pleas don't try to make out that I am stupid or working for the oil companies or whatever reason you don't like other opinions.
Love the ending! This guy does such superb reviews!
Or you could use the 1000 mile per charge electric car. I think they show it on Bloomberg a week or two ago.
that ending got me
why would the producers want to fake people into thinking that the car is a regular car with ventilator and fuel input? I don't get it
no HD today?? why CNET? Why?
Luxurious : Seasick
Sporty : Chiropractor's next flatscreen.
Hmm. So a 700 km trip would take how long?
What would the flying cars run on?
Not to sound completely dumb, so I assume you don't need an oil change again nor a smog test?
Electricity has way more torque than Diesel. I'm not sure where you got your facts but electric motors get roughly a 90% efficiency while diesel is at about 50% to 70%. Meaning 90% of the energy released to the motor actually makes it your wheels and 50%/70% in contrast. I wish they would just create something that is ridiculously efficient... I am in the upper 5% of drivers who drive anywhere from 300-500 miles a weeks so I would love this...
What holds the electric car back has always been the cost of the batteries. What is generally not known and understood is that those costs are artificially held high. But that's another topic for another time.
My point is that those conditions that CoolGuyRuss discusses can be challenged. And if not today then tomorrow depending on how the technology improves. They really are shaky arguments.
Why don't companies use CVTs with EVs?
I wonder anybody dropped a 5spd manual yet--to try to increase the range??
Interesting review... watch your background music.. sometimes to loud. Hope Ford is using American made parts.
Why don't the use a transmission and smaller motor ?
I have owned this car (same color) for a year. Best car ever owned. Charge is not as expensive as he says. Also, oddly enough. I only charge with a normal 110 volt. Always have. I'm cheap. I admit it. I'll use a public charge (on rare occasion) to top up fast. In order to handle my typical 40 mile day, I can't work a long night at the office if I am to rely on the 110 to top up by morning. Our other car is a crew cab tundra LOL. We have had no issues. BTW, the ford app for the car works great at first, but it is now useless. Good sound system too. Very quiet and luxurious. Tried the leaf. Total nerd car. sorry.
Was this re-uploaded?
Cooley I miss you
Seems to me the Tesla S could work for you with that 85Kwh battery with an additional battery range extender in that frunk. With a 400+ mile range,, even with a degradation down to 80% in battery capacity in 10 years,, you could live with that.
But batteries are expensive and in anycase there's something to be said for a small ICE spinning a generator for range extension.
I like ford fogus
from Thailand
"am waiting for the tech to mature" Understood! To me the tech is mature when it's a 20Kwh battery for the local driving and ICE for the distance driving.
But for the pure electric it's mature when it's 100Kwh battery. Tesla came close with that 85Kwh battery to cover both local and distance.
Gets less range due to the fact that its still a steel body, all they did was convert a current car they have into an EV with no thought of in design. For example why is the battery in the trunk when it could of been designed to be underneath the car.
The thing is what happens if you go on a trip and the batteries get low and you have to recharge it for 4h instead of getting a full tank in 2 minutes
The 2014 version is cheaper, but I can't believe they charge (sick) extra for the 240v home charging station.
When we leased our FFEV they weren't even offering a charging station at the dealer and a 30amp 240v station was still going for $900-1000. They are down to $700-800 now and a 15amp 3.3kw is down to $500-600. We actually won an Eaton 32amp that does up to 7.2kw with a little future proofing at a raffle during national plug in day. But we don't need it, haven't hooked it up to the house we lease. My wife drives 75 miles a day round trip to and from work and plugs the car in to a 110v outlet at home and until recently before her work got a 240v station used 110v on both ends and it worked fine. Unless you intend to drive over 90 miles a day or can't charge at one end of commute you won't need a 240v. Our car actually spends a lot of time plugged in not charging at home on 110v.
143 hp! That's 3x the HP of my little Think City EV buzz box. The Focus EV will get me out of the slow lane with the semi trucks.
yeah diesel has better torque and can be easily run on biodiesel with little to no conversion. I don't know what the fuss is.
Question? Do you have a range issue to deal with? or is it a styling issue? Either car is going to have plus's and minus's to deal with. The real question is needs versus wants versus affordability. I can look at the two cars and will probably come up with a very different conclusion than you would.
In today's world of expensive gas and batteries You'd think you'd see many more series hybrids with a 20Kwh battery,, which would be the norm. But you don't see that at all. Hmm!,,
Yeah this would be great for Molly's drop tests !! XD
Says "we'll just keep rolling" and ends clip lmaooo
Then why are still answering in another account?
Well said...
Here on Brasil, we are charged 120% taxes if we import such a car, besides that i wonder how the car perform on a flooded road... very commom here...
But wouldn't a CVT be beneficial for harvesting the mountains of torque produced by the electric motors without having them spool up using more amperage?
People complain about CVTs on gasoline cars because of the static/whining sound, this would not be the case on EVs; and it could make the annoying EV sound better as it spools up.
I'm not sure how high rpm electric motors go, but CTV could potentially increase an EV's top speed as well.
Or I'm just talking horseshit... lol
Just wondering :)
real life mileage?
C/NET IS GOOD CAR HOW PRACE ?
Flying automobiles are already invented. They are just not considered good yet or whatever, Im not really sure tho why
I LIKE THIS because it's not ugly.
Cooley does it again!
This Focus EV charges at 30 amps. It's going to charge twice as fast as other EVs.
An electric motor is different from an internal combustion engine. The drivetrain is different and it's unnecessary to have so many ratios.
39,000.00 for the ford and 52,400.00 that's 13,400.00 and not too that model is stretching to get 180 miles per charge. learn your facts...
Did you really just reply to my comment again a month later? lol
360p? really?
Batteries do not produce radiation.
why have i never seen one of these before
@toshibavoodoo
1. You can always get an extra battery for any electric on the road.
2. He answered, the android and blackberry are up now.
It seems to me the tech is there alright,, it's the cost of batteries that isn't there yet. In looking at Kwh versus miles,, The 20Kwhr battery should be the benchmark for the PHEV. The 40Kwh battery should the benchmark for a pure EV for strictly local range range only. Then the 100Kwh battery should be the benchmark for the pure EV for 300+ miles for both local and distance range.
No one wants range or battery anxiety,, but with these guidelines electrics can sell.
"I don't want to study that much." Why not? You'll be living with this car for the next 10 years. Might as well get as much information out of the gauges as you possibly can
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Put a sock in it. Its a global market and China and Inida's GDP has grown to a point where more people are adopting cars.
fantastic
its beter than nissan lief
i want ti buy electric focus 2013
you should spread ads for the car everywhere in all the planet
Apart from the batteries and the charger is quite simple , especially compared to a very complicated internal combustion engine which has at minimum 40 moving parts. An electric motor has very few parts and only 1 moving parts is relatively simple I think even the charger is simple to build and manufacture as well so why haven't electric cars taken over? Trillions of dollars of oil still left the the Earth's crust, the Technology "will improve" when it is only hundreds of dollars i
i say chevy volt is better, the technology in it makes more sense.
I like how everyone has been brainwashed into thinking the majority of our oil comes from the Middle East. First off, 55% of our oil is domestic. The foreign country that exports most of their oil to the U.S is actually Canada, who produces around 9% of our oil. The next largest supplier is Venezuela (~4.9%), and then Saudi Arabia (~4.7%). Actually, our imports are declining, and are at their lowest levels since the 1980's.
It's not looking bad. I like electric cars more than gasoline cars, even if gas cars would not be polluting at all.
This car is a 'Local' or 'City' car. Not a 'distance' or 'Road trip car'. The batteries just aren't good enough for the 'Road Trip'. The Solution? Park it and use your other car. The one with the ICE in it!
Or get a hybrid or electric with a range extender in it. The question is,,,Are you a one car person or a two car person? everyone's needs are going to be different! One things for sure,,with the cost of gas high,,the electrics are coming and are here to stay!
Who knew Ford already had a 100% EV and Ford F-150 Lightning Pro won't be the first Ford EV! :-)
God bless.
Solectria Sunrise, try that over the internet and I think you will find it had already done a test at 75mph over 225 miles in 1999 on NMIH batteries ( yeah the older laptop batteries as lithium has now taken over so I would say the technology is there and could be made cheaply en mass, also Tesla (though to be fair those are rich guy's toys, and the ELLCIA electric car capable of 250mph) oh yes and the technology,
I think electric cars will start to take over gas cars very soon and gas companies know this.
the price of gas now is just about right to make the most profits. If they charge anymore it will be worth it to buy an electric car or make your own.
Maybe once the distance for electric cars is very close to gas cars you will see most people changing in about a year.
You forgot to switch sock accounts...
A HUGE fake grill? ...could always trust Ford for being pretentious, but this is taking it to another level.
There's so much involved in owning a electric car...
so.. Who killed the Hydrogen car?
lets see 40,000K for a ford EV that can only go about 100 miles per charge or a Tesla Model S that cost around 50,000K and can go 300 milers per charge. I think ill go with the Tesla Model S that extra 200 miles is a good amount for that extra 10K
I'm happy about Fords decision to make electric cars. At 30K with rebate it's well within reach of the common folk. For the rich there is Tesla's Model S. Both classes can now make the difference. For the very rich, there are million dollar electric cars. Get them!
Oh, OK? you are STILL answering for 'someone else.' Are you not aware of what you are doing?
"Oh Jesus. Oh boy. Still running?" HAHAHA
this thing got murdered by the volt 53mi range all electric then generator gets you over 40mpg.
Guys Go back we have seen This b4!
"I don't wanna study that much" - hi5
This is an electric car in a gasoline car chassis with this heavy battery pack in the back which gives the car a bad center of gravity and handling.. i find the tesla model s way better than any other electric car.