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It’s ridiculously unbelievable how they’ve been together for a wholeass DECADE, but Jenny hasn’t bothered to learn even the tiniest smithereen of Hindi or indulge in the culture more
She acts very immature sometimes when it comes to him, but at the same time she also thinks she is too old to learn anything new. Remember when his mom tried to teach her how to keep a house tidy and clean? She just brushed it off and more or less said "it's my place, I do what I want", not realizing that in his culture (and a lot of asian cultures) there is a big emphasis on family/ in-laws and getting along with them, SPECIALLY if you're not married yet!
I think I've figured it out. This whole relationship is Jenny's brilliant long-game vengeance against Sumit for scamming her in the first place. Lady literally committed herself to ruining his life just to get back at the man, and we should respect that.
I’m going to be honest, the single greatest thing I’ve done mental health wise is to stop trying to impress my parents. Eventually I accepted that it’s never going to happen and I should stop trying. Sounds bleak but it’s the truth. I put all of my energy into loving my pets, bf, and friends now.
Oh that sucks they don't just accept & love you for you. That's their loss tho... Sounds like you're mature & in a good place ☺️ Good for you sweetie 😘
True. I was sick and tired of the permanent mental blackmail and psychological terror so as soon as I saw an opportunity to leave, I did. Lied through my teeth just to get them off my back because there was literally nothing I could do to make them happy or barely satisfied with what I do, so I kept them outside of my life for most of the things. Thank Gods, after almost over 10 years (and some traumatic experiences in our family) made me be as close with my mother as I never was before and that's a happy ending not everyone gets nor should hope for if the parents aren't willing to put in the work either.
Drop the MF'in mic. Drop it and walk away. That is an awesome comment. It's got insight, spot-on humor, just the correct amount of sarcasm, and so accurate. Right on!!!
I so agree. Not for nothing but what does this man see in this woman? She has no money, is thirty years older, cant have children, is not part of his culture, and is not attractive at all. Has he lost his mind????
It's incredibly selfish for Jenny to expect Sumit to not work. He's 30. Chances are that he will outlive her and having such a big unemployment gap isn't going to be good for him. If she wanted to be with someone who doesn't work, she should have dated a retiree.
I have a hard time feeling any pity for Jenny, because if the genders were reversed and it was a 63 year old man trying to keep his 33 year old wife from working and her friends and family, nobody would be on his side. Abuse doesn't discriminate by gender.
She's upset because he'd be working for most of the day all week and then on top of that going to be with his family without her. When he's not there she's by herself and because of the time zone she can't communicate with her own friends and family as much. I still think she should be understanding but he should limit the amount of days he goes to see his parents so he still has time for her since they can't go together and she needs to put more effort into making friends and finding ways to fill her time
@@lolaBee9yes but she gave the impression that she understood it'd be like that, and still wanted to move (only) her life to India. Expecting a partner to be everything you're lacking in life is unfair and unrealistic. As uncomfortable as it can be, it should be on you to try and make other social connections, pick up hobbies, work on yourself, etc instead of expecting your partner to orbit around you all of the time. I truly doubt that Jenny understands that, so it seems like unfortunate circumstances for everyone. I wish she did so that she didn't have to revert to kinda selfish coping mechanisms
It's a huge red flag that after 10 yrs together, she is so insecure about him working. How does working 7 days a week translate to going out partying with friends in her brain?! She also has made zero effort to accept his culture and learn his native language. Nothing.
When your young you need to, retirement doesnt exist in india, there is no social security, and no kids to take care of him when shes gone and hes old.
Well he can always remarry once she’s dead but low-key why did he marry her? Going based off his culture. She can’t cook, can’t clean and can’t make babies so she’s basically useless to him.
@@ronw9901 exactly this, who wants their partner to work seven days a week. Especially when you moved to their country alone. Why is everyone treating it like it's a normal thing and jenny asking for at least six days work is too much?
I don’t understand how she’s learned literally nothing in ten whole years. Even if she never left the house and just watched Indian TV all day that would be enough to pick up plenty of cultural awareness. She has to be actively and intentionally choosing not to learn
She also doesn’t seem to have any friends or hobbies. When Summit goes to work, she doesn’t have any friends to meet with, classes or clubs to go to, activities to do. My grandparents love each other, and even though they are both retired, they still do some things apart. My grandfather goes to a club that restores old trains, my grandmother goes on walks with friends and goes to gym classes. Jenny could have built some sort of life in India, but she doesn’t seem interested in that.
Jenni wanting & begging Sumit to be around her 24/7 is TOXIC! It's weird that she don't want her husband to work. The series won't go on forever, they will need money to live 😂. If I'm living in my husband's country I would learn their language & culture. Jenni isn't trying to do anything.
Literally I do not understand her! I'm sure the 90 Day money goes further in India compared to the US but why does she think he shouldn't have to work and why does she actively DISCOURAGE him from his dream of having a business? She legitimately has shown no qualities of a good partner in the literal years TLC has followed her.
Both of you hit the nail on the head like if you’re moving to a different country the least you can do is learn your language so that you can speak to his parents and stuff. It’s kind of crazy that she expects his parents to learn an entirely new language so that they can communicate.
@@camcam8660right cause his parents certainly didn’t ask them to get together 😂 she should be learning a new language to communicate with them, because she decided to insert herself into their lives, not the other way around.
If Sumit was smart, he better think about his future and ignore her petty demands to be in her face 24/7. Shes not gonna be around forever and if he stops working now he will struggle later in life.
Just like Kenny. He doesn't speak any Spanish, he expects Armando to translate and speak for him whenever someone says something in Spanish. He even expects Hannah to learn English, so he doesn't have to learn Spanish. It's annoying if you ask me. I've lived in Germany for 11 years (just as long as Jenny has lived in India) and my German is on C2 level, while Jenny's Hindi isn't even on A1 level. Yeah, you could say she's older but come on. You live in a country where Sumit isn't the only person, it would be nice to learn the language if you want to live in that country.
I am an American white woman. I am also a nanny for a beautiful Indian family. The baby only understood Hindi when I first started. They chose me because they wanted her to learn and be loved. Before I started I learned how to cook her strict vegetarian Indian meals. Did as much reading and learned all I could to be able to communicate with her that much better. It's turned out to be an amazing adventure, they are learning a lot from me as I am from them. This is me just being a nanny. The lengths I would go if I had a partner from another country is limitless. I love watching this couple but it all makes me mad!! 😆
@@darkhours1 Awe! Thank you, but I feel that we learn from each other equally. I love being a Nanny, and I do all I can to learn their culture, and how to cook new things. It's just something you should want to do naturally when you bring anyone into your heart. I'm far from amazing, but I try to do my best. 😊
These are my thoughts: + The sister-in-law is probably so invested in the issue because she knows it’ll be her and her husband taking care of the parents if Sumit doesn’t leave Jenny. Also, if people really ARE giving the family sh*t for Sumit’s relationship, she may be frustrated that the family she JUST became a part of is suddenly less reputable than when she agreed to join. + I know Christina is being naive in thinking she and her wife can somehow get through to Sumit’s family. Even though it was doomed to fail, I think it was worthwhile in the end. Idk if Jenny’s daughter being gay has been a point of contention with Sumit’s family, so I’m just going to ignore that part. I think, even if Sumit’s family didn’t agree with Christina at all, even if they weren’t convinced in the slightest by what she said, I think that her appearance will help humanize Jenny to them, even subconsciously. Seeing that she’s not just a singular old lady on the prowl, but rather a woman who has raised children that love and vouch for her, I think will humanize her. The other reason I think the doomed encounter was worthwhile is because Christina needed to see, and experience for herself, what Jenny and Sumit are up against. I think her assumption may have been that Sumit was just being weak or hadn’t found the right combination of words to open his family’s heart. It was important for Christina to try herself, and fail. I think it will help her have empathy for just how immovable the family is. I just hope she doesn’t see this as a reason to completely dismiss them, and rather that she tries to understand the cultural context. + Too many people think marriage will repair existing problems. In stead of nit-picking over every little cultural/age-related difference that gets in the way of the couple’s happiness, Jenny and Sumit need to sit down and discuss things as a big picture. They need to decide where they’re going to compromise, and where each of them is unwilling to budge. They’re not communicating openly. They keep having these unspoken expectations of the other, or if it IS spoken, it’s in passing or as a jab, which results in them feeling betrayed and disrespected when the expectations are unmet. + Jenny needs to do the math. If she wants to upgrade the house, if she wants modern appliances, if she wants to hire a maid, or visit the U.S., she and Sumit MUST HAVE AN INCOME. Idk what the rules are about Social Security if you’re living out of the country, but regardless, we already know she doesn’t have a nest egg that they could be living off of. We also know that Sumit is in debt, having paid off his former in-laws, legal fees, and owing his father for the remainder of the divorce payoff. So the only money they could possibly have coming in, I assume, is from the show. But that won’t last forever, and clearly isn’t enough to set them up in luxury anyway. I get that she wants to be with Sumit as much as possible, but she needs to separate what she’s valid in WANTING, and what she needs to do for the benefit of them as a family. If she’s not going to get a job, which is odd because I thought that was part of her job excitement in getting her visa, she needs to accept that her husband will need to earn an income. + Sumit needs to do the math. I’m not being ageist or saying senior citizens can’t be capable, loving guardians for children. Sumit is already dissatisfied with Jenny’s homemaking skills, though, and how does he think that will change with a child is added? He doesn’t have the money to adopt (or raise a child) right now, even if Jenny agreed to it. He has almost no income, and he still owes his parents money. If he’s able to convince Jenny and complete the adoption process within two years, Jenny will be 66. The child will be dependent on y’all for most of their care for at least the following 13 years, until (if you’re lucky and they’re independent) they can walk to school and cook for themselves. But given that Sumit wasn’t doing that at 30, I find that unlikely. Jenny would be 79 when the child is 13. Jenny has already expressed that she doesn’t want to spend less time with Sumit for any reason. A child would do just that. He’d have to work more, and she’d have to cook and clean more- things she has said over and over again that she does NOT want to do. + I think that Jenny is jealous of Sumit’s support system in India. Even if his family has disowned him, the drama involved clearly shows that THEY CARE. And his constant anguish about their broken relationship, and his never-ending pursuit of reconciliation, must make Jenny feel like she’s not enough for him. Sumit has a lot of good friends as well. He speaks the language of those around him. I think Jenny is jealous that she gave up (for the most part) all of her relationships to be with him, but he still gets to have friends and (some) family at the end. She’s experiencing the consequences that comes from the age-old problem of making your relationship, or your partner, your WHOLE life. Having other people in your life, having other interests, does not equate to less love for your significant other. Someone shouldn’t every be your other half, you each need to be whole, and those two wholes can compliment and enhance each other. If she continues to try and isolate Sumit from his other relationships, she will push him away. I think that’s her primary motivation for wanting to move to the U.S. Not only does she miss the modern comforts of her previous life but, in her mind, they are what she needs to be an adequate partner for Sumit. I think she thinks he’ll be satisfied with her homemaking abilities if she has the tools she had in the U.S. She wants to distance Sumit from his family because she’s in constant fear that they’ll convince him to leave her. She wants to make Sumit depend on her, and removing him from his country and his culture is a sure-fire way to accomplish that. Apologies for the novel 🤓😂🤦🏼♀️. I know no one asked, but I just wanted to get all that out of my head after watching this!
You hit the nail on the head. Jenny is very clearly lonely with little family ties and most likely envies Sumit’s large caring (and nitpicking with high expectations) family that annoys him but supports him.
To be fair though, the grocery woman was insane. I'm white and I've lived in India before and while admittedly my Hindi is better than Jenny's and I didn't see what exactly she bought, more than rs 1000 for vegetables seems absurd. Like one cauliflower which is exotic and thus expensive was like rs 40-50 where I lived and stuff like okra was rs 20-30/kg. So unless she only bought imported vegetables in a super fancy part of town, it's absurd. Like even at chain supermarkets such as Spencer's (great option for white people who can't be arsed to haggle, bad quality though), she'd likely have paid less...
Yeah, that woman was just trying to fleece Jenny because she was a foreigner. I could buy vegetables for a family of 4 for 2 months with a thousand rupees.
I expect and accept paying extra, but there's a limit to it. But again, knowing the language (and having dark hair, I think) helps. Sometimes I didn't even get overcharged and was *surprisedpikachuface* @@sushmitaraodesaraju6330
You lost your audio at about 1:22:55 but it comes back at 1:24:17 Also really been enjoying your content- this story is so damn bonkers, thank you for bringing it to my rapt attention 😂 Edit: it’s all the more worse that, unlike a lot of reality tv that I come across, I actually believe this >.
Omg. What’s so wrong with this man wanting to have a life outside of her?! Ridiculous. It’s much healthier to have time to yourself and not be so dependent upon one another. Even though he says some crazy shit sometimes, he seems to understand what a healthy relationship should be. Jenny is crazy, clingy, controlling, entitled, and mega codependent. It’s hard for me to watch sometimes.
Since she also refuses to learn the language whatsoever it really makes her Codependency w/ Summit even more desperate - because she basically can’t do anything without him. She needs to learn the language & put herself out there and at least make 1-2 friends.
Completely agree 💯 and it's something that's commonly seen in relationships unfortunately. It is a bit annoying though that Summit doesn't keep that same "I want my independence" energy with his parents.
@@nikkydalby7126yes! 💯. She's using weaponized incompetence. So toxic. You would actually have to try really hard to not learn some phrases after 10 years of being surrounded by the language and culture. Even if she didn't go in public there's tv, radio, newspaper, online.... And she's learned nothing! She's being intentionally obtuse.
Sooooo. Idk if anyone noticed but i about lost it when at about 25:17 he said "america fell off the map" and then shows an animation where, in fact, Canada falls off the map 😂😂😂😂
I'm Brazilian and I watch it in English to improve my English and also to laugh at this whole soap opera, and some accents leave me confused.🇧🇷❤️🇺🇲❤️🏴
The only reason his parents are so against all of this is because of their community knowing about it. “Oh we’re getting all these phone calls” yeah cause people love a scandal and are obviously gossiping and dogging on the parents for it. The mother is so scared of her community judging HER for her son’s choices. She doesn’t care about her son’s happiness. She cares only about her reputation.
Granted I’ve only seen clips and commentary, never the whole show, but Anna is the only American partner on 90 Day Fiancé I’ve seen who has made a concerted effort to learn their partner’s language and that’s INSANE to me. A. That’s very disrespectful B. Has it never occurred to Jenny that she might be happier if she can get around on her own and communicate with people without Sumit having to translate?
Right? If anything It would make her life easier. My take would be her age, as to why. I feel like a lot of people in her age group are “done” with learning. I’ve recently seen this with my parents who are Jenny’s age and starting new career’s. They just struggle to adjust and learn a new language of any kind. I think half of it truly is exhaustion at 65, the other half is tried and true boomer stubbornness.
@@phlora and I have to lean more into the boomer stubbornness because research shows that you are perfectly capable of learning a foreign language into your 60s! It is much more difficult typically because older people don’t have as many opportunities to immerse but immersion is certainly not Jenny’s problem… I genuinely feel like at any age after a decade you have to be TRYING not to learn the language simply based on the brains desire to survive and thrive in stressful unfamiliar and potentially dangerous situations. And based on Jenny’s attitude, I do think there is an element of her resisting any sort of assimilation as “them winning” which is so flawed and problematic. Learn the damn Hindi lady or gtfo out of India
@@phloraI think you’ve hit the nail on the head. I don’t know what that’s like, but surely it can only be healthy to try though? No one’s saying it’s easy or that you have to be fluent, especially if you don’t live in the country, and not every language has a lot of resources available to learn, but still, just try!! In Jenny’s case she actually lives in the country, if she took classes and immersed herself in the city and culture around her and asked to try and speak Hindi with Sumit sometimes, I’m sure she could become somewhat conversational within months.
Having a kid to (try to) resolve an issue in your life, is just disgusting. I truly hate people who weaponize their kids. Like those mothers who don't let their kids see their father out of spite.
Its also extremely selfish to bring a child into a marriage where the main caregiver is elderly and likely not going to live to see them get to 18. Sad for the child and just stupid.
My anxiety insomnia getting me up at 4am, the actual worst. Opening UA-cam to keep my broken brain occupied until i have to drag myself into my pre-work routine and finding a new sixteenleo video, and its a Sumuit and Jenny video?! The best consolation prize.
I had that shit down on day one when visiting my extended family in Greece because of how shit the Aussie dollar is, it makes anything in America, England or European countries that use the Euro seem cheap when it isn't
Filial piety is deeply ingrained in a lot of cultures, and especially so with Asian culture. I am not surprised that Sumit is still desperately trying to win his parents’ approval but he needs to also set a healthy boundary and a time limit for that. It’s not healthy to have to fight repeatedly over something that you know your parents are not going to budge on. Jenny is just too stubborn and set in her own ways. She’s being selfish and toxic. She chose to marry someone from a completely different cultural background. She chose to move to his country on her own. At the very least, learn the language and attempt to learn about their culture. I am not saying Sumit is correct in his methods as well, but both of them need to sit down and effectively communicate what their expectations are. Marriage is a partnership after all. Both me and my husband are Asian, but our cultural background are vastly different from one another. Before we even got married, we communicate what our expectations are, where our boundaries are, our roles in the household and so forth. I think Sumit and Jenny can have a healthier and more productive relationship if they just set aside their egos and emotions and just communicate.
She is a typical american. Thinks everyone is like them. And if not they will be once they tell them how to think and behave. Thinks everyone wants to come to america.
Celia piety sounds like it's ingrained due to the fact that how systemic generational abuse works and it has worked until now because it's the only way that was permitted and people survived in. People did not have a choice unless they actually managed to break free and make it happen and then discover that they have choice. So I hate how literal systemic abuse has just now become a term of cultural aspects. When it's more like no, it's just become something that everybody is deeply traumatized and kind of trapped by, but I can guarantee is not a reflection of what's inherent to any of those cultures. This is a problem worldwide because that's how shitty parents make sure to maintain their power over children especially after they have grown. And it's a pretty more deeply ingrained and generational trauma abuse and literal mental illness for thousands of years than much else. Oh and the fact that like you know people couldn't believe them any other way of existing besides what they have. Except now we have options and we always did. They just finally are way more attainable and people actually are taking the risk to be happy rather than be made guilty by dead people or going to die people. 😂 My mom and I literally had a whole screaming fight about the shit the other day. She was talking about how amazing and wonderful the laws of respecting your elders above all else and obeying them is in the west while being an American citizen sitting on a couch watching UA-cam. So very much far from being living in the west. But from what I could understand from her insane takes is that the reciprocation of obedience and service and devotion like that is the closest understanding that a lot of those people have of feeling loved in return after all of the care and dedication they gave. Because a lot of them may not even understand how to love their children or even given that concept as like all thing with having children or love at all being considered in a lot of cultures for a long time. So they had to justify some way to to cope with the fact that they put so much energy and all of their life went into this little child that they absolutely feel they want to have love and affection from in return. But they're closest. Lovely language is just extreme servitude and obedience. It's the hostile personality. Apparently. That can develop after severe trauma. And I mean generational abuse will probably explain that too. I kind of get the feeling that pretty much everybody before a certain period in history was just all always like mentally ill to a pretty good degree. And hence why religions or so groundbreaking and profound because he focused on concepts like love or things greater than just like survival at its most basic. So... I mean I don't know that was just my best way of understanding how where my mom was coming from and with her needs her. And that is very likely to be just her as an individual and perhaps her level language. I can't speak on behalf of every single screwed up parent like that. But I am guessing it has something rooted in the fact that they have no reasonable concept of a healthy degree of communication or why that would matter in any way besides just meeting the need that they're demanding because their ideal relationship format is to get to just word and emotional dump and give advice on how to bathe and act with this person and people listening. Just agree and accept and the okay with doing that because that makes them feel heard and loved and seen and cared for I guess. Yeah it's freaking insane... So maybe it's mostly just that, but on such a extremely overdone degree and were so many thousands of years that's nobody knows anymore and just considered it culture.
@@bedazzledmisery6969 I can understand where you’re coming from, where something “cultural” like this that has been ingrained to us since birth can be turned into something malicious. All things can turn malicious if misappropriated. I do agree that some family take it too far and many children have suffered tremendous trauma in the name of culture and “respecting your elders”. It doesn’t however change the fact that this was a Confucius/taoist/Buddhist teaching in which the act itself has to be sincere, not forced upon. So you’re right, we have a choice in that matter, whether we choose to be happy by cutting toxic ties or that we choose to obey blindly. I, too had huge arguments with my parents in a similar fashion in which I shouldn’t “talk back” to them and that their opinions are always right and must be respected in the name of filial piety. Obviously, it took many years and deep conversations (+arguments) for them to finally come to terms that respect should be mutual and must be earned regardless of age. And whether they have invested into my education or my livelihood doesn’t equal to eternal obedience or servitude. Misappropriation happens whether culturally or whether through religious text or any other texts, which is why context and intentions matter. Misguided parents will use this to their advantage, but it’s up to us to break the cycle when necessary. So I hope you don’t misunderstand when I say that Jenny should attempt to understand his culture so that she will be more “obedient”. I’m saying this as another Asian who has seen and lived through similar situations. It’s just so she can understand some of his thought process and then have a healthy conversation on boundaries and that in order for them to grow and have their own family. One needs to know when it’s time to stop. Filial piety can only go so far. If his parents refuses to budge and reciprocate with an open mind and respect, then the line must be drawn. In the event, he still refuses to accept the reality of his situation, then decision to stay married or not will be hers.
Society not accepting the marriage is actually a huge thing in other cultures. Being involved in your community and suddenly being ignored, glared at and hearing bad words from EVERYONE, getting treated like an outcast does horrific damage. Sadly this is one of the reasons honour killings happen, because the preassure and being treated like shit by everyone is too insane. This is a systematical problem, one westeners usually do Not Experience. (Not to excuse anything, just to put some perspective into this)
I have a theory that Sumit is in a secret relationship with his business partner. He agreed to the arranged marriage trying to hide his relationship with said man, and didn't expect Jenny to come to India. Now he's trying to do damage control, and keep the money flowing. 😂😂😂
I CAN'T STAND that they make people talk to each other in english instead of their native language. It's stupid. Also Jenny is ridiculous. She attacked another woman for ''disrespecting India'' when after a decade she knows nothing about the country or language. And can't function without him. it's pathetic.
I agree with you. And age isn’t an excuse. You go to another country you do your very best to learn the culture and language. If you can’t/don’t want to? Don’t go.
fr I'm agoraphobic and still at least do groceries once a week. I know I'm in my native country but seeing how she's had 10 years to make any small effort and chose not to is mind boggling to me.
@@sourgreendolly7685 girlie is so stuck in her "you can't teach old dog new tricks" that it's actually hindering her day-to-day life. Sumit isn't gunna be there for her 24/7 she needs to take initiative and tbh, 50-60 isn't even THAT old to learn new things, it's not like she's learning how to ice skate competitively or smth lol
The fact that jenny is bringing up America to the family and said they are planning it is so disrespectful to her husband. Hes said to her that he doesnt want to go to America and now shes making his life harder with his family by beinging it up to them.
personally i really don't like the "we took care of you as a baby so you need to take care of us when we're old" argument because like ... ok, and?? you chose to have kids, we don't choose to be born. you choose that responsibility to create and take care of another human, and if you're ONLY doing that so you have a caretaker when you're old then you're doing it for the wrong reasons and idk why you wouldn't expect any backlash. i understand that is their culture, and obviously they're entitled to think and go through life that way, i just don't agree on any level and am confused why whenever there are some kids that grow up and have an issue with it that they can't possibly grasp that as a possible outcome. if i'm able to i would love to take care of my mom whenever she begins to need it, but that's because she never treated me like an expected future caretaker and didn't have myself or my sisters with that as an expectation or reason. again, i truly hope my fiancé and i will be in a financial and physically healthy enough (i am already and have been suffering with a chronic illness that really impacts movement & health since i was 13 years old & it will probably only get worse) position to take care of her but that's not an expectation she holds over our heads and i'm very grateful for that. ❤
You're so right. About 5yrs ago I was diagnosed with cancer & my daughter (25yo) looked after me so well but, something I didn't realise at the time, was the toll it took on her. I don't know what I could have done differently - maybe not been so reliant on her. Anyway I try to manage my needs without involving her too much & it seems to be better. Best wishes from Australia 🇦🇺 ❤
Idk. I work with old people. Most of their kids have abandoned them in some sense so that people like me can care for them. It’s a money issue, tho. These people have the income to provide for that kind of care. I hate the whole concept. I work with mostly black women and they tell me (a white girl) we don’t treat our people like this like I’m going to do that to MY parents, have strangers wipe their bums and bathe/dress them. It’s insulting. My parents are wonderful people, they took care of their parents when they needed it, they have 4 of us but I don’t think they chose to have children to take care of them. I personally do not have kids and I work at what I do because one day we’ll all be vulnerable and potentially incapable of caring for ourselves and I would want the same respect/kindness I show my patients.
I’m confused as to why you’re directing this at me? I just basically said the same thing you did but more eloquently/from experience. “Get better care”? I provided my best and was really beloved by the residents, they usually asked for me if I was working. When my parents’ time comes, I would rather they be with family rather than strangers with bad attitudes. I understand not everyone has that option so assisted living places are the best choice but… I don’t know. I’m just confused. I don’t think you know what you’re talking about
@@LissyVee you're the one who responded as though you don't know what lenas is saying. You responded to OP with a diatribe about how sad it is that some parents have been abandoned and lenas said "you cannot force people into becoming caregivers for their parents, vote for better social support systems if you think it's sad" don't be obtuse I'm not taking my parents in, they kicked me out at 15. They can eat rocks, sorry you think it's "sad" that strangers will have to take care of them.
Yeah same here. At first I thought it was because I was checking on an order and sometimes you get pop up videos that overtake the UA-cam video audio. Otherwise, as mentioned by others, a great video Leo
This is why you don't search for a partnership because you're afraid of being alone or if you do find a partner, make it your priority to actually learn their customs, religion and everything possible about your partner. 10 years in India and she didn't even try. Fear of mortality is a bitch.
I’m guessing they ate a lot of canned and frozen prepackaged meals, and learned to cook at a very early age. A box of Kraft macaroni and cheese is easier and faster to fix than homemade mashed potatoes, and most people in the US use the instant mashed potato flakes instead of real potatoes, so she probably thought she was doing something really special. 😂
@@diannebrett4074 yeah, there’s no shame in using that stuff, but my mom was a single mom who worked long hours and I was a single mom when I was a full-time student and worked part-time, but we still knew how to cook real food even if we didn’t do it every day. My mom cooked some really elaborate dishes on special occasions. And c’mon, Jenny could’ve made scrambled eggs to have some protein to go with the potatoes. My son could make scrambled eggs when he was 8.
@@akaLaBrujaRoja True, a few eggs are an easy, healthy protein. She just seems so out of her element there. Everything seems more difficult out of her home base
Leo I love your vids but wanted to come in here that you can't hear the last couple of minutes on it the sound or the audio goes out. Anyhow great vid anyway I still watched the whole thing from beginning to end. Great job love your stuff
Jenny's cooking segment made me cackle, that was incredibly hilarious. When she said the bit about sticking the pepper somewhere, I was dying. Thank you for these videos Leo, this is great entertainment in a very dark, shitty week for me.
I’m mad at the vegetable vendor 🙄 1000 rupees for vegetables- clearly scamming the foreigner. It doesn’t cost that much. I know I haven’t been to India in 8 years, but even with inflation- it won’t cost that much.
Shes not that smart to begin with, so yeah big scam. However, the solution to this is to learn the language. Yes she is older, but unless shes slow she should be able to learn some of the basics.
@@Dawnella66 I’m not concerned with Jenny or Sumit . I’m literally only concerned about the street vegetable prices in India. Cz damn, 1000 rupees is just crazy.
I mean… 15 dollars for all that asparagus and free mushrooms was not that much at all. 😂 Jenny is just an idiot and lazy and everything negative people think about Americans. 😂
It’s hard to grasp what parenthood is until it happens. Some people treat it like an accomplishment, a check off their bucket list. It’s about raising a baby to adulthood, full devotion and transformation. Sumit can’t comprehend what he’s intending to put Jenny through. She’s already old, she doesn’t have the years or health to sustain 18+ years of motherhood in the trenches. She’s already been through it all. I feel bad for her, but at least her daughter was in her corner. She’s a mom too, she gets the reality.
I don't think it's unfair for jenny to want kitchen appliances. She's 60 for godsake. If Sumit wanted an active housewife, he shouldn't have gotten married to an OAP. Seriously, do you know any 60 year old that can clean the whole house, top to bottom, with nothing but a brush, bucket, and sponge, and still be able to move afterwards? Her back and knees would be fucked afterwards.
Even though I’m American so I agree washing machine shouldn’t break up a marriage, to answer your question there are a ton of 60 year old women, (including sumits mom) that do the cleaning you described, and as far as I know, in India cleaning at that age is a part of their culture and a sign of pride in one’s home.
@@trashpanda3544 very few women in India have a maid tho, like I said there are lots of women up into their 90s and 100s in India that continue with hefty housework mostly on their own or with help from other women.
60 is really not that old. 😂 Jenny is just a hard 60. She’s lazy. She’s probably has been lazy her whole life. I mean… she should really learn how to freaking cook and clean. At least learn some of the language. She decided to be with a catfish/ move to India. 😂 That’s insane. If she can do that, she can do everything else. Jenny needs to get off her flabby booty and level up. I’m tired of her complaining 😂
Hi Leo, You're probably not aware of how communal indian villages and towns are. If you move away from the big cities, almost everyone knows each other or has mutuals, so it's not uncommon for thousands of actual randoms to have your number. Especially because the whole family has now become a spectacle, I'd be more surprised if people didn't call them/harrass them. Also, the whole loss of face/respect of society thing is a lot more important when if an entire town shuns you, it becomes hard to live there. If the family runs a business, it'd go out of business, might lose job opportunity or clients, or if they need help, people would turn away. Despite how tlc presents it, there are a ridiculous amount of people that would be judging and disrespecting them.
Also adding on, we dont know how the extended family have reacted. I.e. ten years of being isolated from family and not being invited to family events, and such will drain you.
The big question is: “Why does Sumit want to be with this woman”? He’s a good looking guy with a sweet loving personality and could have found someone closer to his age , even another blonde white woman (he claims to “like blondes”) from America or somewhere else. I agree with the parents about many things except for an “arranged marriage”. The whole thing is a hot mess. It won’t be long before he sees the light.
I wonder what will happen in 10 years from now when she requires health procedures and medical care. Will she go back to the USA where all her medical records are there ? Will he follow her ?
The lawyers reaction is hilarious. He's thinking "these mofos are going to make me work extra hard on this one". Mike Jones was supposed to scam not get scammed.
It’s honestly bad enough that after living 10 years in India, Jenny never bothered the learn even the basics of Hindi. But to not understand the currency???
I hate haggling. Idda did the same thing Jenny did. You tell me one price and when I’m leaving, you tell me a different price? While I understand it’s a cultural staple…you just tried to scam me. If I would’ve paid the first price, you wouldn’t have said “no no no no, don’t give me this much. Let me give you this too to make it worth it”…you’d just take my $ and tell me to kick rocks. The moment that happens you’re not getting ANY of my money. Idda gave the other guy who had cheaper groceries a tip, too. I reward good behavior, not bullshit.
24:57 brother you needa understand America is on its downfall. Over here every aspect of our country is falling apart and the world power is going elsewhere. The idea of the American dream and being able to get a higher quality of life here than elsewhere is no longer true
Jenny went off on that other girl for not respecting India or the culture but Jenny has lived there for A DECADE and can’t even go grocery shopping 😂 she deserved to be called out during the reunion.
What kinda sucks is that this dude doesn’t even want to move there. Bro, you don’t have to- but like, visit at least- you’re already liberally minded considering your situation with Jenny.
infomercials designed to sell 'lazy products' are usually designed for people with mobility issues! not for 'lazy people'. they just need to mass market their products for maximum sales.
What parents would 'accept' her?? Would anyone want their young son to marry a 65 year old who is rather DIFFICULT? She doesn't do ANYTHING. No housework. Having been a housewife for ages, I see she never HAS done any real housework.
Well in Japan just the same, even the wife is working ,when she got home ,she must prepare the dinner and other things in the house. But Japanese were used to that thing. Yeah I do too 😅
Only a few minutes into the video but how can Jenny and Sumit be together for so long and not discuss their expected roles in the household? And honestly if Jenny isn't working but Sumit is, then yes, she needs to be taking care of the house. Period. It's called being a contributing partner in your marriage. I get she might not like that it's expected of her solely because she's a woman but she should WANT Sumit to be able to relax at home with her once he gets home. And how tf if she so bad at cleaning and cooking when she's almost 70? That's weaponized incompetence. She should be embarrassed to say she's not good at those things at her age. They are basic life skills.
I've never heard how cleaning is a part of Indian culture. Women in other countries clean more than American women because they don't have a choice to tell their husbands to do their own laundry. But they would if they could so stop bagging on the American woman's cleaning standards. We do fine. Men from other countries just call it trash because they don't want the local women where they live to get the memo
I dont understand what christina and her partner tried to achieve by inviting themselves to a family meeting .... Like browbeating the parents into accepting her mom? Personally I think Jenny is selfish and self-centered. Were I in her place I would have redirected Sumit to date within his age group for the very reasons theyre having issues now. Were i Jenny I would have brought up my inability to have children due to being post menopause.
In America people have to work so much they can’t always care for their parents, so it’s expensive to keep them at home and expensive to put them in a home. We have a horrible system for it. For anything almost hahaha
@@justkittensbeingkittens5892 but it’s not the cultural norm, which is what I believe the comment was about. Sure, you have some individual families who do that, but it’s not expected and not common in the way it is in other countries, like India. The default expectation isn’t for grown kids of elderly parents to live in the same home and take care of their daily needs as the parents did for their kids growing up. There are also families in the US where grown unmarried kids in their 30s and older still live with their parents and never leave, but it is not a cultural norm and it’s not typical, and is extremely looked down upon, the opposite of India and many other countries.
The more you tell your children not to do something the more they’re going to do it anyways, I feel as though if the mother did accept Jenny in the beginning,this relationship would have fallen apart. I really think Sumit was looking for a wife that was mother like and not wife like..
Summit’s mother did like Jenny at first. It has been rumored that Jenny and Summit were hooking up in the parents house (which is already disrespectful) and he was already married or about to marry.
@@chocolatebunny3221it’s not a rumor, Jenny said she did it in their first episode of the first season. She proudly said she “devirginized” him under his parents’ own roof. That’s why his mom HATES her, and I don’t blame her one bit.
@@akaLaBrujaRoja I wasn’t sure if It was a rumor or not, Thank you for clarifying. And yeah there comes a time where you should respect your parents and their house. Having hank and pank is one of them. I completely understand why summit’s mother has venom on her tongue. That horrible first impression set the tone for how she was going to be treated. And boy did Moma summit take her through there.
You are hilarious! I love your commentary. I stopped in because I wanted to see the antics of Sumit and Jenny. I wasn't even going to like or subscribe. Now I want to come back just because of you. I've had the best time watching this. Keep up the amazing work. I'm sharing your page with everyone!
Jenny and her mashed taters 40:19 😂 i mean one of my autism/depression dinners is cheesy mashed taters but id never expect that to be someone elses dinner😂😂😂
Gotta say, I really don't agree with Jenny pressuring Sumit into moving to the US because going by how she still doesn't know any of the language, doesn't even understand the conversion rate for the money and also didn't even try to get along with his parents... it just seems a lot like she only came to India so that she _could_ then pull the "well, I tried it, but I didn't like it - now it's your turn to try living in _my_ country" card. Which is very messed up, if that's actually the case...
This video was funny a lot of the time but then at the end saying how the daughter was saying how if you wanted someone hot and sexy (that could have kids) why would you pick her. Like that’s the whole fertility is the only value in women and that only fertile women are attractive. Very “red pill” thinking and another example of how society thinks of women in general. I know you’re not trying to be shitty and you’re joking but it just feels off. I do want to say again that I think your videos are good overall and I watch a lot of them. So I’m not trying to say you suck. Just wish how we spoke and thought about women changed. I do agree with some of the points about the age gap, but it’s like you want to say how old and gross she is as much as possible. Like you’re leaning on that for laughs.
Jenny’s daughter thinking she could come in and solve everything like she knows better was honestly irritating. Seeing the American mindset as automatically right and all
what was she supposed to do if not try to talk to them? it was the author of the video who insinuated that she wanted to solve everything. if anything the more i wathched these videos the more he presented indians as some npcs who cant be talked with. ffs
Not brown, but I have a similar problem with my family. I guess it's just difficult to do what you want with your life when your parents made you feel that their happiness depends on you. They have a set way of how you should be living your life and if you decide to not follow that path, you're to blame for their everlasting unhappiness. If you grow up this way, you will always be that child. It's really not easy at all. I really feel for Sumit, he may not have always made the right decisions, but if you've never been through such things, it might be a little difficult to understand :/
Much enmeshment and codependency specially on parents side. I read about Boy Moms in another channel much related It can affect to the relationships of the kid and future partner.
Guys, they were dating online until they came on this show. They met once and that's when she was living with his parents. That's when they found out and she was in America. She's only been in India 2-3 at this point in the show. Right?
There is an audio cut off issue at 1:23:00 ? It’s silent for me completely till the Window’s effect. Anyway, great video, I don’t know why I am so invested in a romance between a scammer and a catfish victim
As crazy as it might seem, many people get married and have children just to make their parents happy. I'm pretty sure most all babies are either accident or "oh well" babies, "I need someone to love/love me" babies, "my partner won't leave me if I have this" baby, or "my family/parents will finally get off my back" babies 😂😂😂
Sadly true. It's still crazy though, it being common doesn't make it rational. It's like Leo said, it perpetuates that cycle. Personally I think it's selfish is bring a whole life into the worst because you don't want to hear people complaining that you didn't want to. Every child should feel loved and wanted and people that make that choice are less likely actually develop themselves enough to do that for their children. That choice of conflict "resolution" shows a serious lack of foresight.
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It’s ridiculously unbelievable how they’ve been together for a wholeass DECADE, but Jenny hasn’t bothered to learn even the tiniest smithereen of Hindi or indulge in the culture more
Just shows she has no personal motivation, she's only doing it for the check at this point.
@@Cringe75she just doesn't want to die alone. It is depressing
10 ffin years????? Wtf??? 😂😂😂😂💀
She acts very immature sometimes when it comes to him, but at the same time she also thinks she is too old to learn anything new. Remember when his mom tried to teach her how to keep a house tidy and clean? She just brushed it off and more or less said "it's my place, I do what I want", not realizing that in his culture (and a lot of asian cultures) there is a big emphasis on family/ in-laws and getting along with them, SPECIALLY if you're not married yet!
Right?! Bewakoof.
I think I've figured it out. This whole relationship is Jenny's brilliant long-game vengeance against Sumit for scamming her in the first place. Lady literally committed herself to ruining his life just to get back at the man, and we should respect that.
He would deserve that lol.
I THINK YOU CRACKED THE CODE :O
That's like a whole new out of this world level of getting revenge for Indian scams. Lmfao
Gone girl but with more laughs
Lmao
I’m going to be honest, the single greatest thing I’ve done mental health wise is to stop trying to impress my parents. Eventually I accepted that it’s never going to happen and I should stop trying. Sounds bleak but it’s the truth. I put all of my energy into loving my pets, bf, and friends now.
Felt that 💜
Same.
Felt this. It cause my family to stop talking to me.
In all honesty, tho I've never felt so freed.
Oh that sucks they don't just accept & love you for you.
That's their loss tho... Sounds like you're mature & in a good place ☺️
Good for you sweetie 😘
True. I was sick and tired of the permanent mental blackmail and psychological terror so as soon as I saw an opportunity to leave, I did. Lied through my teeth just to get them off my back because there was literally nothing I could do to make them happy or barely satisfied with what I do, so I kept them outside of my life for most of the things.
Thank Gods, after almost over 10 years (and some traumatic experiences in our family) made me be as close with my mother as I never was before and that's a happy ending not everyone gets nor should hope for if the parents aren't willing to put in the work either.
"Well, lesbian daughter of my son's senior citizen wife, you've given me a lot to think about" -Sumit's dad
Honestly 😂
“SON!” If that’s even your name! Hahahahahahahahha hilarious
Wait what lol . She got a lesbian daughter
@@wavveytae4181 the scene where her daughters visit is the funniest part (including Leo riffing)
Drop the MF'in mic. Drop it and walk away. That is an awesome comment. It's got insight, spot-on humor, just the correct amount of sarcasm, and so accurate. Right on!!!
The longer I follow their story, the more It feels like summit just replaced one abuser (his mom) for another one (Jenny).
I so agree. Not for nothing but what does this man see in this woman? She has no money, is thirty years older, cant have children, is not part of his culture, and is not attractive at all. Has he lost his mind????
It's incredibly selfish for Jenny to expect Sumit to not work. He's 30. Chances are that he will outlive her and having such a big unemployment gap isn't going to be good for him. If she wanted to be with someone who doesn't work, she should have dated a retiree.
I have a hard time feeling any pity for Jenny, because if the genders were reversed and it was a 63 year old man trying to keep his 33 year old wife from working and her friends and family, nobody would be on his side. Abuse doesn't discriminate by gender.
Nice thought you have the courage to speak the truth
FACTS
She's upset because he'd be working for most of the day all week and then on top of that going to be with his family without her. When he's not there she's by herself and because of the time zone she can't communicate with her own friends and family as much.
I still think she should be understanding but he should limit the amount of days he goes to see his parents so he still has time for her since they can't go together and she needs to put more effort into making friends and finding ways to fill her time
She definitely lost a lot of respect with me there
@@lolaBee9yes but she gave the impression that she understood it'd be like that, and still wanted to move (only) her life to India. Expecting a partner to be everything you're lacking in life is unfair and unrealistic. As uncomfortable as it can be, it should be on you to try and make other social connections, pick up hobbies, work on yourself, etc instead of expecting your partner to orbit around you all of the time. I truly doubt that Jenny understands that, so it seems like unfortunate circumstances for everyone. I wish she did so that she didn't have to revert to kinda selfish coping mechanisms
It's a huge red flag that after 10 yrs together, she is so insecure about him working. How does working 7 days a week translate to going out partying with friends in her brain?! She also has made zero effort to accept his culture and learn his native language. Nothing.
What wife wants a husband who works 7 days a week. Thats not being balanced
When your young you need to, retirement doesnt exist in india, there is no social security, and no kids to take care of him when shes gone and hes old.
Well he can always remarry once she’s dead but low-key why did he marry her? Going based off his culture. She can’t cook, can’t clean and can’t make babies so she’s basically useless to him.
Working hours in India can get quite insane, forget life work balance
@@ronw9901 exactly this, who wants their partner to work seven days a week. Especially when you moved to their country alone. Why is everyone treating it like it's a normal thing and jenny asking for at least six days work is too much?
I don’t understand how she’s learned literally nothing in ten whole years. Even if she never left the house and just watched Indian TV all day that would be enough to pick up plenty of cultural awareness. She has to be actively and intentionally choosing not to learn
I think she’s just dumb.
My hope is that it's all for show. That the directors are forcing her to act stupid
She also doesn’t seem to have any friends or hobbies. When Summit goes to work, she doesn’t have any friends to meet with, classes or clubs to go to, activities to do. My grandparents love each other, and even though they are both retired, they still do some things apart. My grandfather goes to a club that restores old trains, my grandmother goes on walks with friends and goes to gym classes. Jenny could have built some sort of life in India, but she doesn’t seem interested in that.
Jenni wanting & begging Sumit to be around her 24/7 is TOXIC! It's weird that she don't want her husband to work. The series won't go on forever, they will need money to live 😂.
If I'm living in my husband's country I would learn their language & culture. Jenni isn't trying to do anything.
Literally I do not understand her! I'm sure the 90 Day money goes further in India compared to the US but why does she think he shouldn't have to work and why does she actively DISCOURAGE him from his dream of having a business? She legitimately has shown no qualities of a good partner in the literal years TLC has followed her.
Both of you hit the nail on the head like if you’re moving to a different country the least you can do is learn your language so that you can speak to his parents and stuff. It’s kind of crazy that she expects his parents to learn an entirely new language so that they can communicate.
@@camcam8660right cause his parents certainly didn’t ask them to get together 😂 she should be learning a new language to communicate with them, because she decided to insert herself into their lives, not the other way around.
If Sumit was smart, he better think about his future and ignore her petty demands to be in her face 24/7. Shes not gonna be around forever and if he stops working now he will struggle later in life.
yes! Jenny is toxica. She is behaving like a 16 year old who needs to be around her boyfriend 24/7
If she spoke the language she would have more confidence being out alone
She doesnt want to. She has far more control over Sumit by making him feel 100 percent responsible for her happiness.
Yeah. Why has she not learned the language at all. But he should be teaching her. So it’s not all on her
She's notlearning on purpose so she has an excuse to isolate him and keep him by her 24/7
You'd think after a decade in a country she'd at least know some basic phrases
Just like Kenny. He doesn't speak any Spanish, he expects Armando to translate and speak for him whenever someone says something in Spanish. He even expects Hannah to learn English, so he doesn't have to learn Spanish. It's annoying if you ask me. I've lived in Germany for 11 years (just as long as Jenny has lived in India) and my German is on C2 level, while Jenny's Hindi isn't even on A1 level. Yeah, you could say she's older but come on. You live in a country where Sumit isn't the only person, it would be nice to learn the language if you want to live in that country.
Its impressive how someone as old as her can still be so absolutely self centered and callous to someone she supposedly loves
Immature adults are a thing, unfortunately many are parents
Really? Bc I see it in boomers a lot
Really? Tbh he and his family are POS as well.
what does her being old has to do with this lol?
@@lenas6246 They've had years more time to learn how to be better
I am an American white woman. I am also a nanny for a beautiful Indian family. The baby only understood Hindi when I first started. They chose me because they wanted her to learn and be loved. Before I started I learned how to cook her strict vegetarian Indian meals. Did as much reading and learned all I could to be able to communicate with her that much better. It's turned out to be an amazing adventure, they are learning a lot from me as I am from them. This is me just being a nanny. The lengths I would go if I had a partner from another country is limitless. I love watching this couple but it all makes me mad!! 😆
You are a precious soul! You should be proud of yourself♡
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Wow that's awesome!
You are a gift to that family.
@@darkhours1 Awe! Thank you, but I feel that we learn from each other equally. I love being a Nanny, and I do all I can to learn their culture, and how to cook new things. It's just something you should want to do naturally when you bring anyone into your heart. I'm far from amazing, but I try to do my best. 😊
She could be using her time while he's at work learning to read,write, and speak his language. 🤔
Too lazy and throwing herself a pity party.
@@Dawnella66 take a damn cooking class, she drives me batshit. lol
Jenny is too lazy and not very intelligent else she would be chasing American old men in her league...whatever that is. 😂
These are my thoughts:
+ The sister-in-law is probably so invested in the issue because she knows it’ll be her and her husband taking care of the parents if Sumit doesn’t leave Jenny. Also, if people really ARE giving the family sh*t for Sumit’s relationship, she may be frustrated that the family she JUST became a part of is suddenly less reputable than when she agreed to join.
+ I know Christina is being naive in thinking she and her wife can somehow get through to Sumit’s family. Even though it was doomed to fail, I think it was worthwhile in the end. Idk if Jenny’s daughter being gay has been a point of contention with Sumit’s family, so I’m just going to ignore that part. I think, even if Sumit’s family didn’t agree with Christina at all, even if they weren’t convinced in the slightest by what she said, I think that her appearance will help humanize Jenny to them, even subconsciously. Seeing that she’s not just a singular old lady on the prowl, but rather a woman who has raised children that love and vouch for her, I think will humanize her.
The other reason I think the doomed encounter was worthwhile is because Christina needed to see, and experience for herself, what Jenny and Sumit are up against. I think her assumption may have been that Sumit was just being weak or hadn’t found the right combination of words to open his family’s heart. It was important for Christina to try herself, and fail. I think it will help her have empathy for just how immovable the family is. I just hope she doesn’t see this as a reason to completely dismiss them, and rather that she tries to understand the cultural context.
+ Too many people think marriage will repair existing problems. In stead of nit-picking over every little cultural/age-related difference that gets in the way of the couple’s happiness, Jenny and Sumit need to sit down and discuss things as a big picture. They need to decide where they’re going to compromise, and where each of them is unwilling to budge. They’re not communicating openly. They keep having these unspoken expectations of the other, or if it IS spoken, it’s in passing or as a jab, which results in them feeling betrayed and disrespected when the expectations are unmet.
+ Jenny needs to do the math. If she wants to upgrade the house, if she wants modern appliances, if she wants to hire a maid, or visit the U.S., she and Sumit MUST HAVE AN INCOME. Idk what the rules are about Social Security if you’re living out of the country, but regardless, we already know she doesn’t have a nest egg that they could be living off of. We also know that Sumit is in debt, having paid off his former in-laws, legal fees, and owing his father for the remainder of the divorce payoff. So the only money they could possibly have coming in, I assume, is from the show. But that won’t last forever, and clearly isn’t enough to set them up in luxury anyway. I get that she wants to be with Sumit as much as possible, but she needs to separate what she’s valid in WANTING, and what she needs to do for the benefit of them as a family. If she’s not going to get a job, which is odd because I thought that was part of her job excitement in getting her visa, she needs to accept that her husband will need to earn an income.
+ Sumit needs to do the math. I’m not being ageist or saying senior citizens can’t be capable, loving guardians for children. Sumit is already dissatisfied with Jenny’s homemaking skills, though, and how does he think that will change with a child is added? He doesn’t have the money to adopt (or raise a child) right now, even if Jenny agreed to it. He has almost no income, and he still owes his parents money. If he’s able to convince Jenny and complete the adoption process within two years, Jenny will be 66. The child will be dependent on y’all for most of their care for at least the following 13 years, until (if you’re lucky and they’re independent) they can walk to school and cook for themselves. But given that Sumit wasn’t doing that at 30, I find that unlikely. Jenny would be 79 when the child is 13. Jenny has already expressed that she doesn’t want to spend less time with Sumit for any reason. A child would do just that. He’d have to work more, and she’d have to cook and clean more- things she has said over and over again that she does NOT want to do.
+ I think that Jenny is jealous of Sumit’s support system in India. Even if his family has disowned him, the drama involved clearly shows that THEY CARE. And his constant anguish about their broken relationship, and his never-ending pursuit of reconciliation, must make Jenny feel like she’s not enough for him. Sumit has a lot of good friends as well. He speaks the language of those around him. I think Jenny is jealous that she gave up (for the most part) all of her relationships to be with him, but he still gets to have friends and (some) family at the end. She’s experiencing the consequences that comes from the age-old problem of making your relationship, or your partner, your WHOLE life. Having other people in your life, having other interests, does not equate to less love for your significant other. Someone shouldn’t every be your other half, you each need to be whole, and those two wholes can compliment and enhance each other. If she continues to try and isolate Sumit from his other relationships, she will push him away. I think that’s her primary motivation for wanting to move to the U.S. Not only does she miss the modern comforts of her previous life but, in her mind, they are what she needs to be an adequate partner for Sumit. I think she thinks he’ll be satisfied with her homemaking abilities if she has the tools she had in the U.S. She wants to distance Sumit from his family because she’s in constant fear that they’ll convince him to leave her. She wants to make Sumit depend on her, and removing him from his country and his culture is a sure-fire way to accomplish that.
Apologies for the novel 🤓😂🤦🏼♀️.
I know no one asked, but I just wanted to get all that out of my head after watching this!
I loved it😊❤
Very well said
I agree❤️🙏🏻 very well said and you made some very good points I didnt see myself
You hit the nail on the head. Jenny is very clearly lonely with little family ties and most likely envies Sumit’s large caring (and nitpicking with high expectations) family that annoys him but supports him.
Bruh. Who is this for! This is unacceptably too long by keeps and miles.
To be fair though, the grocery woman was insane. I'm white and I've lived in India before and while admittedly my Hindi is better than Jenny's and I didn't see what exactly she bought, more than rs 1000 for vegetables seems absurd. Like one cauliflower which is exotic and thus expensive was like rs 40-50 where I lived and stuff like okra was rs 20-30/kg. So unless she only bought imported vegetables in a super fancy part of town, it's absurd. Like even at chain supermarkets such as Spencer's (great option for white people who can't be arsed to haggle, bad quality though), she'd likely have paid less...
Yeah, that woman was just trying to fleece Jenny because she was a foreigner. I could buy vegetables for a family of 4 for 2 months with a thousand rupees.
I expect and accept paying extra, but there's a limit to it. But again, knowing the language (and having dark hair, I think) helps. Sometimes I didn't even get overcharged and was *surprisedpikachuface* @@sushmitaraodesaraju6330
:V wowza
Let's not forget the whole camera crew there makes her stand out so much more
@@SuicuneCutie Right, automatically makes it look like she has money or is related to a celebrity in some way.
“adopt an Indian kid which u can just go on the street and-“ MY GOD LEO😭
Been in a country for 10 years and cant do grocery shopping???? Insane.
They have been together for 10years but she hasn’t lived there for 10years
@@ashtherebel2346how long has she lived there? Because if it’s any more than 2 weeks I feel like she should be able to.
@@Mama_Bear524 I'm not too sure but I think it's been about 2 years altogether? She's done at least 2 6 months stay in the beginning.
@@ashtherebel2346you could learn any language in 3 months, 6 months at Max, c'mon stop taking blanket of dismissal
She needs to dye her hair black & wear sari
"i choose to see things negatively bc that is who i am as a person" with your casual tone and deadpan face has me DYING 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
i dont want peace i want problems always!!
You are very entertaining. I'm glad I found your channel.
It still blows me away that Jenny left her entire family for this relationship.
She's stubborn and wants to be in control. She wants him to be the man he pretended to be when he catfished her.
😂@@MyDogIsYoshi
For a young man ofcourse
She had too many cobwebs had to go permanently get them cleaned out 😂
@@tiffanybarnes3831nasty
You lost your audio at about 1:22:55 but it comes back at 1:24:17
Also really been enjoying your content- this story is so damn bonkers, thank you for bringing it to my rapt attention 😂
Edit: it’s all the more worse that, unlike a lot of reality tv that I come across, I actually believe this >.
Same, i thought he tried to make a point in the show ending on that note but then realized it was probably not on purpose😹
I wanna know what he said 😫😫
@@slugsiemuu3201 me too, captions won't work either
I went looking for this comment when I heard the audio cut out
Omg. What’s so wrong with this man wanting to have a life outside of her?! Ridiculous. It’s much healthier to have time to yourself and not be so dependent upon one another. Even though he says some crazy shit sometimes, he seems to understand what a healthy relationship should be. Jenny is crazy, clingy, controlling, entitled, and mega codependent. It’s hard for me to watch sometimes.
100 percent true and lazy. Also I think she isnt the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Since she also refuses to learn the language whatsoever it really makes her Codependency w/ Summit even more desperate - because she basically can’t do anything without him. She needs to learn the language & put herself out there and at least make 1-2 friends.
Completely agree 💯 and it's something that's commonly seen in relationships unfortunately. It is a bit annoying though that Summit doesn't keep that same "I want my independence" energy with his parents.
@@nikkydalby7126yes! 💯. She's using weaponized incompetence. So toxic. You would actually have to try really hard to not learn some phrases after 10 years of being surrounded by the language and culture. Even if she didn't go in public there's tv, radio, newspaper, online.... And she's learned nothing! She's being intentionally obtuse.
You summed it up perfectly.
Sooooo. Idk if anyone noticed but i about lost it when at about 25:17 he said "america fell off the map" and then shows an animation where, in fact, Canada falls off the map 😂😂😂😂
I saw that too, was wondering if someone else saw that too.
As Canadian, I felt that drop XD
I had to replay it because I thought I was seeing things.
North America includes Canada.. the US isn't the only American country
it's funny that TLC always puts english subtitles whenever people with accents speak even if they're speaking perfectly understandable english.
Amy and Tammy lol
I put the tv subtitles on anyway, I’m American and I can barely understand Jenny’s whiny mumbling. 😂
@@voluntaryismistheanswer LMAO they do, it's so hilarious!
Well you have to remember that accents can he hard for hearing impaired people. That and the sound quality not always being the best.
I'm Brazilian and I watch it in English to improve my English and also to laugh at this whole soap opera, and some accents leave me confused.🇧🇷❤️🇺🇲❤️🏴
For people who have had so long to change or work on their respective issues, they sure haven't changed much. I almost forget it been 10 years.
Can you imagine spending 24/7 with Jenny? 🔫
The only reason his parents are so against all of this is because of their community knowing about it. “Oh we’re getting all these phone calls” yeah cause people love a scandal and are obviously gossiping and dogging on the parents for it. The mother is so scared of her community judging HER for her son’s choices. She doesn’t care about her son’s happiness. She cares only about her reputation.
Granted I’ve only seen clips and commentary, never the whole show, but Anna is the only American partner on 90 Day Fiancé I’ve seen who has made a concerted effort to learn their partner’s language and that’s INSANE to me. A. That’s very disrespectful B. Has it never occurred to Jenny that she might be happier if she can get around on her own and communicate with people without Sumit having to translate?
Right? If anything It would make her life easier. My take would be her age, as to why. I feel like a lot of people in her age group are “done” with learning. I’ve recently seen this with my parents who are Jenny’s age and starting new career’s. They just struggle to adjust and learn a new language of any kind. I think half of it truly is exhaustion at 65, the other half is tried and true boomer stubbornness.
@@phlora and I have to lean more into the boomer stubbornness because research shows that you are perfectly capable of learning a foreign language into your 60s! It is much more difficult typically because older people don’t have as many opportunities to immerse but immersion is certainly not Jenny’s problem… I genuinely feel like at any age after a decade you have to be TRYING not to learn the language simply based on the brains desire to survive and thrive in stressful unfamiliar and potentially dangerous situations. And based on Jenny’s attitude, I do think there is an element of her resisting any sort of assimilation as “them winning” which is so flawed and problematic. Learn the damn Hindi lady or gtfo out of India
Her co-dependency is about control.
@@phloraI think you’ve hit the nail on the head. I don’t know what that’s like, but surely it can only be healthy to try though? No one’s saying it’s easy or that you have to be fluent, especially if you don’t live in the country, and not every language has a lot of resources available to learn, but still, just try!! In Jenny’s case she actually lives in the country, if she took classes and immersed herself in the city and culture around her and asked to try and speak Hindi with Sumit sometimes, I’m sure she could become somewhat conversational within months.
@@phloraI mean fine. Then she can’t complain about feeling isolated. She decided to move there and refuses to try.
dude this 90 day fiance storyline is what got me into your channel, so pumped for this next installment
Just so you know, the last 2 minutes or so don't have audio. Thanks for the entertainment as always Leo!
Having a kid to (try to) resolve an issue in your life, is just disgusting. I truly hate people who weaponize their kids. Like those mothers who don't let their kids see their father out of spite.
Its also extremely selfish to bring a child into a marriage where the main caregiver is elderly and likely not going to live to see them get to 18. Sad for the child and just stupid.
it is always selfish regardless of age@@Dawnella66
My anxiety insomnia getting me up at 4am, the actual worst. Opening UA-cam to keep my broken brain occupied until i have to drag myself into my pre-work routine and finding a new sixteenleo video, and its a Sumuit and Jenny video?! The best consolation prize.
How can Jenny not know the currency rate????? I had that shit down within weeks of moving to China!
Because she doesn’t want to. There’s no excuse.
Also there are apps you can download on your phone that does it for you.
I had that shit down on day one when visiting my extended family in Greece because of how shit the Aussie dollar is, it makes anything in America, England or European countries that use the Euro seem cheap when it isn't
You nailed it - it’s amazing at her age she still has the energy to fight these 20 y/o type fights. I have zero energy for that shit already.
I lived in India, that price for the asparagus was insane.
Lol....no one in India eats asparagus...good one
Filial piety is deeply ingrained in a lot of cultures, and especially so with Asian culture. I am not surprised that Sumit is still desperately trying to win his parents’ approval but he needs to also set a healthy boundary and a time limit for that. It’s not healthy to have to fight repeatedly over something that you know your parents are not going to budge on.
Jenny is just too stubborn and set in her own ways. She’s being selfish and toxic. She chose to marry someone from a completely different cultural background. She chose to move to his country on her own. At the very least, learn the language and attempt to learn about their culture. I am not saying Sumit is correct in his methods as well, but both of them need to sit down and effectively communicate what their expectations are. Marriage is a partnership after all.
Both me and my husband are Asian, but our cultural background are vastly different from one another. Before we even got married, we communicate what our expectations are, where our boundaries are, our roles in the household and so forth. I think Sumit and Jenny can have a healthier and more productive relationship if they just set aside their egos and emotions and just communicate.
Well said!
She is a typical american. Thinks everyone is like them. And if not they will be once they tell them how to think and behave. Thinks everyone wants to come to america.
Celia piety sounds like it's ingrained due to the fact that how systemic generational abuse works and it has worked until now because it's the only way that was permitted and people survived in. People did not have a choice unless they actually managed to break free and make it happen and then discover that they have choice. So I hate how literal systemic abuse has just now become a term of cultural aspects. When it's more like no, it's just become something that everybody is deeply traumatized and kind of trapped by, but I can guarantee is not a reflection of what's inherent to any of those cultures. This is a problem worldwide because that's how shitty parents make sure to maintain their power over children especially after they have grown. And it's a pretty more deeply ingrained and generational trauma abuse and literal mental illness for thousands of years than much else. Oh and the fact that like you know people couldn't believe them any other way of existing besides what they have. Except now we have options and we always did. They just finally are way more attainable and people actually are taking the risk to be happy rather than be made guilty by dead people or going to die people. 😂
My mom and I literally had a whole screaming fight about the shit the other day. She was talking about how amazing and wonderful the laws of respecting your elders above all else and obeying them is in the west while being an American citizen sitting on a couch watching UA-cam. So very much far from being living in the west. But from what I could understand from her insane takes is that the reciprocation of obedience and service and devotion like that is the closest understanding that a lot of those people have of feeling loved in return after all of the care and dedication they gave. Because a lot of them may not even understand how to love their children or even given that concept as like all thing with having children or love at all being considered in a lot of cultures for a long time. So they had to justify some way to to cope with the fact that they put so much energy and all of their life went into this little child that they absolutely feel they want to have love and affection from in return. But they're closest. Lovely language is just extreme servitude and obedience. It's the hostile personality. Apparently. That can develop after severe trauma. And I mean generational abuse will probably explain that too. I kind of get the feeling that pretty much everybody before a certain period in history was just all always like mentally ill to a pretty good degree. And hence why religions or so groundbreaking and profound because he focused on concepts like love or things greater than just like survival at its most basic.
So... I mean I don't know that was just my best way of understanding how where my mom was coming from and with her needs her. And that is very likely to be just her as an individual and perhaps her level language. I can't speak on behalf of every single screwed up parent like that. But I am guessing it has something rooted in the fact that they have no reasonable concept of a healthy degree of communication or why that would matter in any way besides just meeting the need that they're demanding because their ideal relationship format is to get to just word and emotional dump and give advice on how to bathe and act with this person and people listening. Just agree and accept and the okay with doing that because that makes them feel heard and loved and seen and cared for I guess. Yeah it's freaking insane... So maybe it's mostly just that, but on such a extremely overdone degree and were so many thousands of years that's nobody knows anymore and just considered it culture.
@@bedazzledmisery6969 I can understand where you’re coming from, where something “cultural” like this that has been ingrained to us since birth can be turned into something malicious. All things can turn malicious if misappropriated. I do agree that some family take it too far and many children have suffered tremendous trauma in the name of culture and “respecting your elders”. It doesn’t however change the fact that this was a Confucius/taoist/Buddhist teaching in which the act itself has to be sincere, not forced upon. So you’re right, we have a choice in that matter, whether we choose to be happy by cutting toxic ties or that we choose to obey blindly.
I, too had huge arguments with my parents in a similar fashion in which I shouldn’t “talk back” to them and that their opinions are always right and must be respected in the name of filial piety. Obviously, it took many years and deep conversations (+arguments) for them to finally come to terms that respect should be mutual and must be earned regardless of age. And whether they have invested into my education or my livelihood doesn’t equal to eternal obedience or servitude.
Misappropriation happens whether culturally or whether through religious text or any other texts, which is why context and intentions matter. Misguided parents will use this to their advantage, but it’s up to us to break the cycle when necessary.
So I hope you don’t misunderstand when I say that Jenny should attempt to understand his culture so that she will be more “obedient”. I’m saying this as another Asian who has seen and lived through similar situations. It’s just so she can understand some of his thought process and then have a healthy conversation on boundaries and that in order for them to grow and have their own family. One needs to know when it’s time to stop. Filial piety can only go so far. If his parents refuses to budge and reciprocate with an open mind and respect, then the line must be drawn. In the event, he still refuses to accept the reality of his situation, then decision to stay married or not will be hers.
Society not accepting the marriage is actually a huge thing in other cultures. Being involved in your community and suddenly being ignored, glared at and hearing bad words from EVERYONE, getting treated like an outcast does horrific damage. Sadly this is one of the reasons honour killings happen, because the preassure and being treated like shit by everyone is too insane.
This is a systematical problem, one westeners usually do Not Experience.
(Not to excuse anything, just to put some perspective into this)
I have a theory that Sumit is in a secret relationship with his business partner. He agreed to the arranged marriage trying to hide his relationship with said man, and didn't expect Jenny to come to India. Now he's trying to do damage control, and keep the money flowing. 😂😂😂
And Jenny has some suspicion about it and this is why she's so against his job, genius!
He does give off gay vibes
@@FanfictionWoes After seeing his interaction with the business partner, I agree. They had actual chemistry.
alloes trying not to make shit up challnge:
I'm still amazed how people can live without having any basic skills like cooking or cleaning
Right? Jenny must have lived in a dump and raised her kids on microwave food.
I CAN'T STAND that they make people talk to each other in english instead of their native language. It's stupid. Also Jenny is ridiculous. She attacked another woman for ''disrespecting India'' when after a decade she knows nothing about the country or language. And can't function without him. it's pathetic.
I agree with you. And age isn’t an excuse. You go to another country you do your very best to learn the culture and language. If you can’t/don’t want to? Don’t go.
it's so hard to wrap around my head that Jenny is in India for a decade and more like damn sis and u still can't go out and do basic stuff? bruh
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I'm agoraphobic and still at least do groceries once a week. I know I'm in my native country but seeing how she's had 10 years to make any small effort and chose not to is mind boggling to me.
@@sourgreendolly7685 girlie is so stuck in her "you can't teach old dog new tricks" that it's actually hindering her day-to-day life. Sumit isn't gunna be there for her 24/7 she needs to take initiative and tbh, 50-60 isn't even THAT old to learn new things, it's not like she's learning how to ice skate competitively or smth lol
The fact that jenny is bringing up America to the family and said they are planning it is so disrespectful to her husband.
Hes said to her that he doesnt want to go to America and now shes making his life harder with his family by beinging it up to them.
personally i really don't like the "we took care of you as a baby so you need to take care of us when we're old" argument because like ... ok, and?? you chose to have kids, we don't choose to be born. you choose that responsibility to create and take care of another human, and if you're ONLY doing that so you have a caretaker when you're old then you're doing it for the wrong reasons and idk why you wouldn't expect any backlash. i understand that is their culture, and obviously they're entitled to think and go through life that way, i just don't agree on any level and am confused why whenever there are some kids that grow up and have an issue with it that they can't possibly grasp that as a possible outcome. if i'm able to i would love to take care of my mom whenever she begins to need it, but that's because she never treated me like an expected future caretaker and didn't have myself or my sisters with that as an expectation or reason. again, i truly hope my fiancé and i will be in a financial and physically healthy enough (i am
already and have been suffering with a chronic illness that really impacts movement & health since i was 13 years old & it will probably only get worse) position to take care of her but that's not an expectation she holds over our heads and i'm very grateful for that. ❤
You're so right. About 5yrs ago I was diagnosed with cancer & my daughter (25yo) looked after me so well but, something I didn't realise at the time, was the toll it took on her. I don't know what I could have done differently - maybe not been so reliant on her. Anyway I try to manage my needs without involving her too much & it seems to be better. Best wishes from Australia 🇦🇺 ❤
Idk. I work with old people. Most of their kids have abandoned them in some sense so that people like me can care for them. It’s a money issue, tho. These people have the income to provide for that kind of care. I hate the whole concept. I work with mostly black women and they tell me (a white girl) we don’t treat our people like this like I’m going to do that to MY parents, have strangers wipe their bums and bathe/dress them. It’s insulting. My parents are wonderful people, they took care of their parents when they needed it, they have 4 of us but I don’t think they chose to have children to take care of them. I personally do not have kids and I work at what I do because one day we’ll all be vulnerable and potentially incapable of caring for ourselves and I would want the same respect/kindness I show my patients.
get better societal care systems then. you cant force people to be caretakers, period. It requires various skills as you should know@@LissyVee
I’m confused as to why you’re directing this at me? I just basically said the same thing you did but more eloquently/from experience. “Get better care”? I provided my best and was really beloved by the residents, they usually asked for me if I was working. When my parents’ time comes, I would rather they be with family rather than strangers with bad attitudes. I understand not everyone has that option so assisted living places are the best choice but… I don’t know. I’m just confused. I don’t think you know what you’re talking about
@@LissyVee you're the one who responded as though you don't know what lenas is saying. You responded to OP with a diatribe about how sad it is that some parents have been abandoned and lenas said "you cannot force people into becoming caregivers for their parents, vote for better social support systems if you think it's sad"
don't be obtuse
I'm not taking my parents in, they kicked me out at 15. They can eat rocks, sorry you think it's "sad" that strangers will have to take care of them.
My guy, audio drops out at 1:22-25 and I can tell you said some straight up zingers but even the subtitles didn’t catch them. Love your work ❤
thought it was just me 😂
Yeah same here. At first I thought it was because I was checking on an order and sometimes you get pop up videos that overtake the UA-cam video audio. Otherwise, as mentioned by others, a great video Leo
Okay same!
This is why you don't search for a partnership because you're afraid of being alone or if you do find a partner, make it your priority to actually learn their customs, religion and everything possible about your partner.
10 years in India and she didn't even try.
Fear of mortality is a bitch.
1:22:53 A great video, but your audio cuts out completely right about here. I've rewound it a few times, so it isn't my laptop.
How did Jenny raise kids and come up with mashed potatoes as the whole dinner? Like are the kids okay?
I’m guessing they ate a lot of canned and frozen prepackaged meals, and learned to cook at a very early age. A box of Kraft macaroni and cheese is easier and faster to fix than homemade mashed potatoes, and most people in the US use the instant mashed potato flakes instead of real potatoes, so she probably thought she was doing something really special. 😂
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She may also have worked long hours as a single mother. That’s not so easy
@@diannebrett4074 yeah, there’s no shame in using that stuff, but my mom was a single mom who worked long hours and I was a single mom when I was a full-time student and worked part-time, but we still knew how to cook real food even if we didn’t do it every day. My mom cooked some really elaborate dishes on special occasions. And c’mon, Jenny could’ve made scrambled eggs to have some protein to go with the potatoes. My son could make scrambled eggs when he was 8.
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True, a few eggs are an easy, healthy protein. She just seems so out of her element there. Everything seems more difficult out of her home base
Leo I love your vids but wanted to come in here that you can't hear the last couple of minutes on it the sound or the audio goes out. Anyhow great vid anyway I still watched the whole thing from beginning to end. Great job love your stuff
Its 4am when i realize leo dropped a new video 30 mins ago....no sleep for me 😂😂😂😂 hell yesss jenny and sumit are something else.
Together for 10 years and he finds out she can’t cook AFTER the wedding..
Jenny's cooking segment made me cackle, that was incredibly hilarious. When she said the bit about sticking the pepper somewhere, I was dying. Thank you for these videos Leo, this is great entertainment in a very dark, shitty week for me.
I’m mad at the vegetable vendor 🙄 1000 rupees for vegetables- clearly scamming the foreigner. It doesn’t cost that much. I know I haven’t been to India in 8 years, but even with inflation- it won’t cost that much.
Shes not that smart to begin with, so yeah big scam. However, the solution to this is to learn the language. Yes she is older, but unless shes slow she should be able to learn some of the basics.
@@Dawnella66 I’m not concerned with Jenny or Sumit . I’m literally only concerned about the street vegetable prices in India. Cz damn, 1000 rupees is just crazy.
Her husband wasn't the only one scamming that day
I mean… 15 dollars for all that asparagus and free mushrooms was not that much at all. 😂 Jenny is just an idiot and lazy and everything negative people think about Americans. 😂
I'm just so obsessed with the anomaly that is Jenny & Sumit, I will never step watching these deepdives thank you for making them.
It’s hard to grasp what parenthood is until it happens. Some people treat it like an accomplishment, a check off their bucket list. It’s about raising a baby to adulthood, full devotion and transformation. Sumit can’t comprehend what he’s intending to put Jenny through. She’s already old, she doesn’t have the years or health to sustain 18+ years of motherhood in the trenches. She’s already been through it all. I feel bad for her, but at least her daughter was in her corner. She’s a mom too, she gets the reality.
Plus he's in a man in a culture where women are expected to do the majority of childcare
I don't think it's unfair for jenny to want kitchen appliances. She's 60 for godsake. If Sumit wanted an active housewife, he shouldn't have gotten married to an OAP. Seriously, do you know any 60 year old that can clean the whole house, top to bottom, with nothing but a brush, bucket, and sponge, and still be able to move afterwards? Her back and knees would be fucked afterwards.
Even though I’m American so I agree washing machine shouldn’t break up a marriage, to answer your question there are a ton of 60 year old women, (including sumits mom) that do the cleaning you described, and as far as I know, in India cleaning at that age is a part of their culture and a sign of pride in one’s home.
@@giaparmer in the video he tells Jenny his parents hired a maid.
@@trashpanda3544 very few women in India have a maid tho, like I said there are lots of women up into their 90s and 100s in India that continue with hefty housework mostly on their own or with help from other women.
She knew how they lived ahead of time. It only became a problem once she had to take on some of those chores.
60 is really not that old. 😂 Jenny is just a hard 60. She’s lazy. She’s probably has been lazy her whole life. I mean… she should really learn how to freaking cook and clean. At least learn some of the language. She decided to be with a catfish/ move to India. 😂 That’s insane. If she can do that, she can do everything else. Jenny needs to get off her flabby booty and level up. I’m tired of her complaining 😂
Hi Leo, You're probably not aware of how communal indian villages and towns are. If you move away from the big cities, almost everyone knows each other or has mutuals, so it's not uncommon for thousands of actual randoms to have your number. Especially because the whole family has now become a spectacle, I'd be more surprised if people didn't call them/harrass them. Also, the whole loss of face/respect of society thing is a lot more important when if an entire town shuns you, it becomes hard to live there. If the family runs a business, it'd go out of business, might lose job opportunity or clients, or if they need help, people would turn away. Despite how tlc presents it, there are a ridiculous amount of people that would be judging and disrespecting them.
Also adding on, we dont know how the extended family have reacted. I.e. ten years of being isolated from family and not being invited to family events, and such will drain you.
The big question is: “Why does Sumit want to be with this woman”? He’s a good looking guy with a sweet loving personality and could have found someone closer to his age , even another blonde white woman (he claims to “like blondes”) from America or somewhere else. I agree with the parents about many things except for an “arranged marriage”. The whole thing is a hot mess. It won’t be long before he sees the light.
I wonder what will happen in 10 years from now when she requires health procedures and medical care. Will she go back to the USA where all her medical records are there ? Will he follow her ?
No matter the age, all women are familiar with "girl dinner". This lady said we can have mashed potatoes for dinner 😂😂
What does Jenni actually know how to do? She doesn't cook. She doesn't clean. She argues about everything. It's a good thing breathing is involuntary.
Hahahaha 😂
The lawyers reaction is hilarious. He's thinking "these mofos are going to make me work extra hard on this one". Mike Jones was supposed to scam not get scammed.
It’s honestly bad enough that after living 10 years in India, Jenny never bothered the learn even the basics of Hindi. But to not understand the currency???
It’s mind blowing
I hate haggling. Idda did the same thing Jenny did. You tell me one price and when I’m leaving, you tell me a different price? While I understand it’s a cultural staple…you just tried to scam me. If I would’ve paid the first price, you wouldn’t have said “no no no no, don’t give me this much. Let me give you this too to make it worth it”…you’d just take my $ and tell me to kick rocks. The moment that happens you’re not getting ANY of my money. Idda gave the other guy who had cheaper groceries a tip, too. I reward good behavior, not bullshit.
I like how Canada fell off the map instead of America. GG
I scrolled through the comments to look for this exact comment 😂
24:57 brother you needa understand America is on its downfall. Over here every aspect of our country is falling apart and the world power is going elsewhere. The idea of the American dream and being able to get a higher quality of life here than elsewhere is no longer true
Jenny went off on that other girl for not respecting India or the culture but Jenny has lived there for A DECADE and can’t even go grocery shopping 😂 she deserved to be called out during the reunion.
What kinda sucks is that this dude doesn’t even want to move there. Bro, you don’t have to- but like, visit at least- you’re already liberally minded considering your situation with Jenny.
infomercials designed to sell 'lazy products' are usually designed for people with mobility issues! not for 'lazy people'. they just need to mass market their products for maximum sales.
I’m sooooo happy to see this, insomnia came over to spend the night. Thank you Leo!
What parents would 'accept' her?? Would anyone want their young son to marry a 65 year old who is rather DIFFICULT? She doesn't do ANYTHING. No housework. Having been a housewife for ages, I see she never HAS done any real housework.
The fact that he said even if a woman works outside the home, she's still responsible for everything. Bro, I about punched my screen.
Well in Japan just the same, even the wife is working ,when she got home ,she must prepare the dinner and other things in the house. But Japanese were used to that thing. Yeah I do too 😅
What's even worse is I'm sure his mom fed that to him.
Only a few minutes into the video but how can Jenny and Sumit be together for so long and not discuss their expected roles in the household? And honestly if Jenny isn't working but Sumit is, then yes, she needs to be taking care of the house. Period. It's called being a contributing partner in your marriage. I get she might not like that it's expected of her solely because she's a woman but she should WANT Sumit to be able to relax at home with her once he gets home. And how tf if she so bad at cleaning and cooking when she's almost 70? That's weaponized incompetence. She should be embarrassed to say she's not good at those things at her age. They are basic life skills.
Shes lazy. Plain and simple. She probably was like this her whole life.
She’s not nearly 70😅
Well she is now 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Just here to leave a comment about how great that outfit looks. Killing it as usual king ! Now I’ll enjoy the rest of the video 😂❤️
I second that! 🤌
i think now all of a sudden he wants to have kids to back out of a ten year eff up on his part cause he knows its a deal breaker.
"jenny..winning battles in her own mind and heart" 😂😅❤
I've never heard how cleaning is a part of Indian culture.
Women in other countries clean more than American women because they don't have a choice to tell their husbands to do their own laundry. But they would if they could so stop bagging on the American woman's cleaning standards. We do fine. Men from other countries just call it trash because they don't want the local women where they live to get the memo
Truth!
Thank you! I'm not usually bothered by ignorant assumptions about Americans, but jfc we don't live in filthy houses. I vacuum every day 😂
I dont understand what christina and her partner tried to achieve by inviting themselves to a family meeting .... Like browbeating the parents into accepting her mom? Personally I think Jenny is selfish and self-centered. Were I in her place I would have redirected Sumit to date within his age group for the very reasons theyre having issues now. Were i Jenny I would have brought up my inability to have children due to being post menopause.
I’m unhealthily invested in these two people
17:10 idk about america but it's absolutely normal in Poland for adult kids to take care of their parents. That's what you're supposed to do.
It’s not normal in the US.
@@akaLaBrujaRojadepends where. It’s expected that I’ll take care of my parents and I live in the us. My bf also helps with his grandparents
In America people have to work so much they can’t always care for their parents, so it’s expensive to keep them at home and expensive to put them in a home. We have a horrible system for it. For anything almost hahaha
@@feefee6889 dude I believe that in Poland people have to work even more xd everyone everywhere has to work a lot, thats barely an excuse
@@justkittensbeingkittens5892 but it’s not the cultural norm, which is what I believe the comment was about. Sure, you have some individual families who do that, but it’s not expected and not common in the way it is in other countries, like India. The default expectation isn’t for grown kids of elderly parents to live in the same home and take care of their daily needs as the parents did for their kids growing up. There are also families in the US where grown unmarried kids in their 30s and older still live with their parents and never leave, but it is not a cultural norm and it’s not typical, and is extremely looked down upon, the opposite of India and many other countries.
Did anyone else have audio cut out for thr last few minutes of the episode until the very end?
The more you tell your children not to do something the more they’re going to do it anyways, I feel as though if the mother did accept Jenny in the beginning,this relationship would have fallen apart.
I really think Sumit was looking for a wife that was mother like and not wife like..
He got neither if you ask me, he got more a spoiled baby.
Summit’s mother did like Jenny at first. It has been rumored that Jenny and Summit were hooking up in the parents house (which is already disrespectful) and he was already married or about to marry.
@@chocolatebunny3221ew really??
@@chocolatebunny3221it’s not a rumor, Jenny said she did it in their first episode of the first season. She proudly said she “devirginized” him under his parents’ own roof. That’s why his mom HATES her, and I don’t blame her one bit.
@@akaLaBrujaRoja I wasn’t sure if It was a rumor or not, Thank you for clarifying. And yeah there comes a time where you should respect your parents and their house. Having hank and pank is one of them. I completely understand why summit’s mother has venom on her tongue. That horrible first impression set the tone for how she was going to be treated. And boy did Moma summit take her through there.
Just looked at their insta and as of July 2023 they’re still together and seems to be going strong. Why is this so sweet????
Consider Adoption,so many children require good parents in india...help them
You are hilarious! I love your commentary. I stopped in because I wanted to see the antics of Sumit and Jenny. I wasn't even going to like or subscribe. Now I want to come back just because of you. I've had the best time watching this. Keep up the amazing work. I'm sharing your page with everyone!
Jenny and her mashed taters 40:19 😂 i mean one of my autism/depression dinners is cheesy mashed taters but id never expect that to be someone elses dinner😂😂😂
Autism dinner 😭😭 as a fellow neurodivergent that took me out
Same here 😂
You should try putting some cooked bacon in the mash - yum!
seriously she isnt going to change any of her housekeeping habits in her 60s -her habits have been set for 20-30 years already
He wants a baby? Did he not realize she's too old for that
Gotta say, I really don't agree with Jenny pressuring Sumit into moving to the US because going by how she still doesn't know any of the language, doesn't even understand the conversion rate for the money and also didn't even try to get along with his parents... it just seems a lot like she only came to India so that she _could_ then pull the "well, I tried it, but I didn't like it - now it's your turn to try living in _my_ country" card.
Which is very messed up, if that's actually the case...
Leo is the kind of person who's has a very balanced outlook on life, love it.
How can you live in a place for 10 yrs and learn nothing?
How has she not made a friend?
This video was funny a lot of the time but then at the end saying how the daughter was saying how if you wanted someone hot and sexy (that could have kids) why would you pick her. Like that’s the whole fertility is the only value in women and that only fertile women are attractive. Very “red pill” thinking and another example of how society thinks of women in general.
I know you’re not trying to be shitty and you’re joking but it just feels off.
I do want to say again that I think your videos are good overall and I watch a lot of them. So I’m not trying to say you suck.
Just wish how we spoke and thought about women changed.
I do agree with some of the points about the age gap, but it’s like you want to say how old and gross she is as much as possible. Like you’re leaning on that for laughs.
12:16 “this is not the married life I expected.” Really Jenny? Because we all expected this 😭
Did anyone else have audio problems at the end or is the youtube being weird? I really wanted to hear what else happened since it’s the end 😅
There is no audio from 1:22:53 onwards. anyone else with this issue as well?
It's with everyone
Jenny’s daughter thinking she could come in and solve everything like she knows better was honestly irritating. Seeing the American mindset as automatically right and all
The daughter itself is a bloody useless woman getting married to a gay… she has a face talk chase her out
what was she supposed to do if not try to talk to them? it was the author of the video who insinuated that she wanted to solve everything. if anything the more i wathched these videos the more he presented indians as some npcs who cant be talked with. ffs
The way Jenny talks about taking sumit to India is so wild like she’s trafficking him 😂
Not brown, but I have a similar problem with my family. I guess it's just difficult to do what you want with your life when your parents made you feel that their happiness depends on you. They have a set way of how you should be living your life and if you decide to not follow that path, you're to blame for their everlasting unhappiness. If you grow up this way, you will always be that child. It's really not easy at all. I really feel for Sumit, he may not have always made the right decisions, but if you've never been through such things, it might be a little difficult to understand :/
That's a super toxic relationship.
Much enmeshment and codependency specially on parents side. I read about Boy Moms in another channel much related It can affect to the relationships of the kid and future partner.
Guys, they were dating online until they came on this show. They met once and that's when she was living with his parents. That's when they found out and she was in America. She's only been in India 2-3 at this point in the show. Right?
Does the audio cut out at the very end of the video for anyone else?
Indeed. Looks like he missed that during editing.
There is an audio cut off issue at 1:23:00 ? It’s silent for me completely till the Window’s effect.
Anyway, great video, I don’t know why I am so invested in a romance between a scammer and a catfish victim
I had the same audio drop, thought the vid was struggling
As crazy as it might seem, many people get married and have children just to make their parents happy. I'm pretty sure most all babies are either accident or "oh well" babies, "I need someone to love/love me" babies, "my partner won't leave me if I have this" baby, or "my family/parents will finally get off my back" babies 😂😂😂
Sadly true. It's still crazy though, it being common doesn't make it rational. It's like Leo said, it perpetuates that cycle.
Personally I think it's selfish is bring a whole life into the worst because you don't want to hear people complaining that you didn't want to. Every child should feel loved and wanted and people that make that choice are less likely actually develop themselves enough to do that for their children. That choice of conflict "resolution" shows a serious lack of foresight.