Martin Luther: Reason is a Whore
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- Опубліковано 29 жов 2023
- Martin Luther referred to human reason as a "whore." While some have labeled him anti-rational, they could not be more wrong.
In this video, Jeffrey K. Mann, PhD (Professor of Religious Studies, Susquehanna University) discusses what exactly Luther meant by this obnoxious rhetoric.
Luther's discussion of the whorishness of reason overlaps considerably with what contemporary psychologists call "motivated reasoning." On this point, at least, Luther was ahead of his time.
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Motivated reasoning...never thought of this before. As I listened my understanding of how data and research could be the tools for motivated reasoning.
Thank you for the insight.
I'm glad it was helpful.
i really enjoyed the video, hope you will get more viewers soon
The heart has its reasons which reason knows nothing of.Paschal.
Vergelt's Gott!
One does wonder, though, what conclusion the application of this understanding to Luther's own reasoning (and its results, such as e.g. the Solas) would yield.
Luther was a lot better at seeing the whorishness of reason in others than he was in himself. :) Nevertheless, we're left with reason as a remarkable tool to examine our own... and others'... truth claims. We just need a bit more epistemic humility and viewpoint diversity to keep us honest.
When Martin Luther was summoned to the Diet of Worms in 1521 and asked to recant his teaching, he replied, "Unless I am convinced by Scripture and plain reason, my conscience is captive to the Word of God. I cannot and I will not recant anything, for to go against conscience would be neither right nor safe. God help me. Here I stand, I can do no other."
Luther's well-known formulation, "Scripture and plain reason," is the only basis on which we can properly ground true spiritual discernment Notice: plain reason Bing search
Makes no sense tbh. You can't just equate reason with finding fake reasons for your failures and then call reason a whore.
Ridiculous... Explaining these things is absurd. Enjoy the metaphor and if someone doesn't understand it, well... tough luck. It's like explaining a poem... to hell with that. It's cheap and irrelevant. This is one of the major problems and a killer of thought. To try to be absolutely clear and precise, and reducing the complexity of a deep idea to a futile explanation.
This is a poor argument justified by hypotheticals that are not Reason but emotional impulse. This is a textbook example of strawmaning. If the man making the video was just explaining Luther's work for my historical perspective it would have been fine. But his modern-day comparisons combined with faulty arguments suggest a lack of interest in integrity. It's shameful, insulting to the audience, and no way for a Christian to act. It is itself an example of cognitive dissonance. As a lover of kuregardian thought, I am very disappointed. The second half of the video is just complaining about politics and shoves faith/reason to the side
You're conflating pure reason with faulty reasoning. You're also smuggling in - rather obviously - a God of the Gaps fallacy; that where Reason cannot provide a sufficient answer, God can (regardless of the lack of evidence for a God, in general; much less your particular Abrahamic God.) If reason fails in the hands of someone skilled in it's use, it is either due to motivated reasoning (i.e. bias), deception, or a lack of sufficient evidence (this could be because that evidence doesn't exist, or hasn't been discovered (i.e. early models of the solar system.) ) Your whole argument is an example of motivated reasoning. It is presuppositional. You start with God and try to reason your way to indicting Reason, in favor of "god's wisdom." You should start from zero, and ask yourself how do you know what you know. If your answer is "Because the Bible tells me so, that faulty reasoning. Just look what the Bible says about Reason: In one place, it says, "Come, let us reason." In another place, it says, "Lean not on your own understanding." (If that isn't proof that the Bible was written by men, I don't know what is.)
Finally, there is, no doubt, some wisdom to be found in the Bible ("Do unto others.") But those passages of wisdom can exist independently of a god claim, independently of faith, and reflect a mundane grasp of reason, not divine inspiration.
I must apologize for not being clearer in my video. The position you think I am taking is not my position at all. Luther's point is that when reason is used rightly, it is super-awesome. The problem is that we think we're using it in a fair and objective way, when in reality we are twisting logic and reason to get to results that make us feel good. This is not God-of-the-gaps or revelation over reason.
@@JKMannsr I like that response, somewhat. I'm not sure how Luther's God, or conscience, adds to the argument. Maybe because you're a religion professor and it's part of the curriculum? For example, if I were to deliver a similar argument, I'd probably glean from Newman's Idea of a University, or Plato's Phaedo, to see if that offered a less cluttered path of argument/ explication.
No, I apologize, as well. Your response interested me enough to look at some more of your videos, and I realize that we're more aligned than I thought. You were speaking in the voice of Luther to give him a fair assessment. I suppose my original comment is a better response to him, than to you. You have a sense of humor and you're insightful. I'm looking forward to more videos. Please keep it up! @@JKMannsr
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