@@itsphantom80 someone made a really good fan made fight with Goku and saitama. I think it’s thirty minutes, but it’s death battle level of animation. I recommend watching it, it’s really good
I really respect you for being level headed and understood where they were coming from with this Matchup. You don't see it often when it comes to these two fights in particular regarding the communities surrounding it.
@@itsphantom80I saw the video when it first came out years ago. I’ve always been level headed when it comes to stuff like this, but the comments were hateful towards DB, calling them liars, sellouts, and hacks. And even other reactors blew up when goku lost, I’m glad you’re a dude who can accept it with pride. You’re a true bro. Proud to be a subscriber.
BROOOO you did it, honestly these were fire ngl.. back in the day when the second one got announced the studios in charge hyped the hell out of it and and when it premiered live on a Texas Convention, they went hard with the marketing in that one LMAO alex vs cole will remain my fave tho 👀
It’s crazy how much the first Goku v Superman changed Death Battle. I discovered the show back when there was only 10 episodes and this episode was hyped and teased for literal years (back then there were months between episodes). This was the big 25th episode and they knew there’d be more eyes on it. Episodes prior to this tend to be more loose with calculations, used a lot more assumptions, and were kinda wishy washy on what was considered canon. This one they new they had to draw hard lines and make info clear to justify their answer. It produced what was at the time far and away the best episode of the show at the time and the whole show was held to a higher standard from that moment on. It’s so crazy to have been there when that happened and to still see Death battle going so strong a decade later.
They’ve definitely came a long way. And I hope they’re even more successful in years to come 💯. Maybe even a round 3 of this😅 pretty sure my boy is gonna lose again but I’d still watch it
Your reaction to this fight was probably my favourite ive ever seen, and youre not salty at all either, yeah its a bit sad, and its okay to be sad about that, but i respect you a lot
@@itsphantom80 haha nah bro theres even a character tier website where they rank and power scale so many characters, i dont believe in that site sometimes but i do believe with what they did with goku and saitama, they put goku wayyyy above saitama so ye bro 👍
Totally belated , but congrats on the 500k dude ! ! ! But man , I remember watching these when they first came out and the hype behind both 😂😂 I have liked Death Battle since episode 1 , so seeing how far they've come since Goku V. Superman 1 is wild . They didn't even have custom music for these two battles ! ! Still think the 3rd fight is the best by far though 😂😂😂😂
Thanks god, someone in a battle to the death. said that 2015's Goku vs Superman was never the real sequel but rather an extension of the 2013 fight, (IS NOT GOKU VS SUPERMAN 2 but the goku vs Superman from the 2023 is the really Goku vs Superman 2👍)
congratulation on 500. this is i think was like the first big BIG episode. the thing is even if there was a 3rd it wouldn't end any differently cuz superman has gotten EVEN MORE BUSTED.
@@itsphantom80 also gotta think about how superman is alway hanging and beating people that are far above just punching and kicking with lasers but honest to god reality warpers and guys that out pace time by lightly jogging things that dbz characters don't really deal with except for a few characters. anyway here's hoping you get that big 1000 milestones.
Ahh the two big ones. Supes v Goku will be eternal because i doubt either of these characters will end. At least not in this century. If you want to know some cracked Supes feat i got you. Also congrats on 500
Goku’s character really is his biggest weakness in this kinda fight. Even if he was more evil like vegeta was he would still make the mistake of letting his opponent get his strongest, like when vegeta allowed cell to reach his perfect form
Check out Gokus speed in the analysis after the first fight, they made Goku's speed at super saiyan 2 the same speed as his base form. WTF, I still agree with the outcome, its just goku should of been faster than superman. If you do the math yourself at the speed analysis for Goku, he should be over 200 (possibly closer to 300) billion km an hr, not just a few billion. You can see it at 17:09, with the multipliers
I find it weird that when Superman won the OG fight, people lit the comments up, saying “Death Battle just wants to make DBZ fans mad!!” Or “They need to do their research!!!” So much that it warrants them to do a rematch, I knew Superman should’ve won in the first place though. I’m a huge comic AND anime fan and this fan war’s been happening since I was a kid, and if Death Battle would’ve made Goku win in the rematch, THAT would’ve been pandering. Goku may be the better character (in my opinion please don’t flame me, I’m a DC fan, too) but Superman is one of the STRONGEST characters ever written in all of fiction. And THATS why I’m happy Phantom, while not happy about it, because no one’s happy with a loss, can accept it and realize just because someone’s your favorite, doesn’t mean he’s always gonna take a W.
Well said, I think this was a perfect ending to a LONG debate. Goku may be my favorite but having him win wouldn’t make sense. I definitely see why everyone hyped these battles to me 💯
Honestly, the first fight I would have let slide, but the second one was straight up bullshit. Goku having God Ki, and Superman walks through the Kamehameha wave like nothing? Even if you're a Superman fan, you can't say that should be it.
@@natedeanmaan2 I mean… Superman’s extra forms walked through DARKSEID’S OMEGA BEAMS, which are literally meant to be unblock-able and send you to an eternal and ever growing doom. You can say “it doesn’t do that because Darkseid wants to control Superman, but in his base form the omega beams still at least HURT Kal-El, when he goes full power, they do almost nothing. And Darkseid isn’t a man (or…alien) PRETENDING to be a god, he’s a REAL god with near limitless power. Again I love both Kal and Goku, but Kal wins, and DB is making a mistake of doing this a THIRD TIME!!! If goku wins, it’s pandering, if Kal wins, people are gonna cry again about how “Goku has UI, he can’t even be hit anymore.” That’s why I was happy with phantom, he knew goku had it. Goku breaks limits, Kal has nothing to break. Kal has punched REAL GOD, creator of the multiverse, a being with power enough to be compared to ZENO (who goku still can’t match) and Spectre, gods hand of vengeance and wrath in the face, and matched them in combat.
One of the biggest problems with Goku vs Superman 2 is that it was made during a time where Goku and his god forms were still developing. Since then, Goku has not only proven he is multi-universal but that when he proved he was capable of that was the BEGINNING of his training. He is HUNDREDS of times stronger than that now.
Comic books vs the world did a video on Goku, he comes to a better strength conclusion than death battle, (40 tons lol) although dragonball super did come out after this first fight, we can see Goku lifting WAY THE FUCK MORE than just 40 tons in base form. On king kais planet (10x gravity) at the start of super, Goku is the exact same strength he was when he was fighting kid buu before Beerus fights him, Goku is squatting something like a few millions tons in base form. Id check out comic books vs the world for his 2 videos on Goku, definitely worth to see more accurate data on Goku.
something i've noticed about this match up that i don't see people considering is that the strength and speed are almost irrelevant because of all the other abilities superman has that goku doesn't have an answer for. thoughts?
Honestly, the biggest dub here is the character development of this reactor. Props for being a good sport and a chill dude.
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I second that, even in his dismay, he shows respect.
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@@itsphantom80even with your good reaction, I can understand why you could have been mad. These results still shock me
@@itsphantom80 someone made a really good fan made fight with Goku and saitama. I think it’s thirty minutes, but it’s death battle level of animation. I recommend watching it, it’s really good
I really respect you for being level headed and understood where they were coming from with this Matchup. You don't see it often when it comes to these two fights in particular regarding the communities surrounding it.
You gotta give respect where it’s due bro. I’m not angry at all with the results.
@@itsphantom80I saw the video when it first came out years ago. I’ve always been level headed when it comes to stuff like this, but the comments were hateful towards DB, calling them liars, sellouts, and hacks. And even other reactors blew up when goku lost, I’m glad you’re a dude who can accept it with pride. You’re a true bro. Proud to be a subscriber.
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@@itsphantom80superman is the goat, I didn't expect any other result.
Superman is a really underrated superhero
Wdym? He’s one of the most recognizable characters in DC
@@sm0l_gog3taunderrated as in most people think he's boring even though he's not
Underrated ? More like overrated as fuck
@@adry3211 way too overrated ?
@@sm0l_gog3tahe's the face of superheroes
BROOOO you did it, honestly these were fire ngl.. back in the day when the second one got announced the studios in charge hyped the hell out of it and and when it premiered live on a Texas Convention, they went hard with the marketing in that one LMAO alex vs cole will remain my fave tho 👀
Balrog vs TJ Combo is still my top bro
It’s crazy how much the first Goku v Superman changed Death Battle. I discovered the show back when there was only 10 episodes and this episode was hyped and teased for literal years (back then there were months between episodes). This was the big 25th episode and they knew there’d be more eyes on it. Episodes prior to this tend to be more loose with calculations, used a lot more assumptions, and were kinda wishy washy on what was considered canon. This one they new they had to draw hard lines and make info clear to justify their answer. It produced what was at the time far and away the best episode of the show at the time and the whole show was held to a higher standard from that moment on. It’s so crazy to have been there when that happened and to still see Death battle going so strong a decade later.
They’ve definitely came a long way. And I hope they’re even more successful in years to come 💯. Maybe even a round 3 of this😅 pretty sure my boy is gonna lose again but I’d still watch it
@@itsphantom80 ask and ye shall receive
Your reaction to this fight was probably my favourite ive ever seen, and youre not salty at all either, yeah its a bit sad, and its okay to be sad about that, but i respect you a lot
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@@itsphantom80Oh! And if it makes you better, I believe goku beats saitama, and im not the only one
Really? Honestly I thought I’d look crazy if I said that 😅
@@itsphantom80 haha nah bro theres even a character tier website where they rank and power scale so many characters, i dont believe in that site sometimes but i do believe with what they did with goku and saitama, they put goku wayyyy above saitama
so ye bro 👍
What’s the website?
Two of the biggest recommendations I can give are iron man vs lex luthor and Snake vs Sam
I wrote it down💯
If you ask pretty much anyone whos watched death battle, they'll agree that the first Goku vs Superman is Death Battle's Magnum Opus
Totally belated , but congrats on the 500k dude ! ! ! But man , I remember watching these when they first came out and the hype behind both 😂😂 I have liked Death Battle since episode 1 , so seeing how far they've come since Goku V. Superman 1 is wild . They didn't even have custom music for these two battles ! ! Still think the 3rd fight is the best by far though 😂😂😂😂
Yes! The 3rd just is too amazing. Definitely my fav of all time
Thanks god, someone in a battle to the death. said that 2015's Goku vs Superman was never the real sequel but rather an extension of the 2013 fight, (IS NOT GOKU VS SUPERMAN 2 but the goku vs Superman from the 2023 is the really Goku vs Superman 2👍)
Funny timing this video has. Don't you think so, Rick vs Doctor's Next Time Trailer?
500 Subs!!!🎉🎉. Congratulations now we need 500 more!!!
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Congratulations on 500 man
Thanks, it’s all because of you guys! 🫡
congratulation on 500. this is i think was like the first big BIG episode.
the thing is even if there was a 3rd it wouldn't end any differently cuz superman has gotten EVEN MORE BUSTED.
Yea I gotta admit Goku just can’t beat him
@@itsphantom80 also gotta think about how superman is alway hanging and beating people that are far above just punching and kicking with lasers but honest to god reality warpers and guys that out pace time by lightly jogging things that dbz characters don't really deal with except for a few characters.
anyway here's hoping you get that big 1000 milestones.
Fight 2 is not canon at all and im mad… Goku doesn’t have a brain to destroy
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Congratulations bro and you should react to next is Death Battle Flash vs Sonic Or Ben 10 Vs Green Latern
Both of those I expect are 🔥
Congrats a 500k man. I honestly believe if they re did this Goku would win and I ain’t even a db fan. Goku just be him
Aye we’re not at 500k yet, but hopefully you spoke it to existence 😁🫡
@@itsphantom80 oh wait my bad but still congrats man
Ahh the two big ones. Supes v Goku will be eternal because i doubt either of these characters will end. At least not in this century. If you want to know some cracked Supes feat i got you. Also congrats on 500
I agree and thanks bro
Goku’s character really is his biggest weakness in this kinda fight. Even if he was more evil like vegeta was he would still make the mistake of letting his opponent get his strongest, like when vegeta allowed cell to reach his perfect form
They say that Superman will NOT let anything move him if he concentrates.
There's going to be a 3rd one on 12/4
Check out Gokus speed in the analysis after the first fight, they made Goku's speed at super saiyan 2 the same speed as his base form. WTF, I still agree with the outcome, its just goku should of been faster than superman.
If you do the math yourself at the speed analysis for Goku, he should be over 200 (possibly closer to 300) billion km an hr, not just a few billion. You can see it at 17:09, with the multipliers
I find it weird that when Superman won the OG fight, people lit the comments up, saying “Death Battle just wants to make DBZ fans mad!!” Or “They need to do their research!!!” So much that it warrants them to do a rematch, I knew Superman should’ve won in the first place though. I’m a huge comic AND anime fan and this fan war’s been happening since I was a kid, and if Death Battle would’ve made Goku win in the rematch, THAT would’ve been pandering. Goku may be the better character (in my opinion please don’t flame me, I’m a DC fan, too) but Superman is one of the STRONGEST characters ever written in all of fiction. And THATS why I’m happy Phantom, while not happy about it, because no one’s happy with a loss, can accept it and realize just because someone’s your favorite, doesn’t mean he’s always gonna take a W.
Well said, I think this was a perfect ending to a LONG debate. Goku may be my favorite but having him win wouldn’t make sense. I definitely see why everyone hyped these battles to me 💯
@@itsphantom80 thanks for your input man. (I’m a transformers fan too and can we agree that Frieza should wreck megatron in the next fight, though?)
Honestly, the first fight I would have let slide, but the second one was straight up bullshit. Goku having God Ki, and Superman walks through the Kamehameha wave like nothing? Even if you're a Superman fan, you can't say that should be it.
@@natedeanmaan2 I mean… Superman’s extra forms walked through DARKSEID’S OMEGA BEAMS, which are literally meant to be unblock-able and send you to an eternal and ever growing doom. You can say “it doesn’t do that because Darkseid wants to control Superman, but in his base form the omega beams still at least HURT Kal-El, when he goes full power, they do almost nothing. And Darkseid isn’t a man (or…alien) PRETENDING to be a god, he’s a REAL god with near limitless power. Again I love both Kal and Goku, but Kal wins, and DB is making a mistake of doing this a THIRD TIME!!! If goku wins, it’s pandering, if Kal wins, people are gonna cry again about how “Goku has UI, he can’t even be hit anymore.” That’s why I was happy with phantom, he knew goku had it. Goku breaks limits, Kal has nothing to break. Kal has punched REAL GOD, creator of the multiverse, a being with power enough to be compared to ZENO (who goku still can’t match) and Spectre, gods hand of vengeance and wrath in the face, and matched them in combat.
also while both characters are similar they are tell two very different story in to different worlds with different rules.
I wish Goku would eat a bean that makes him smarter lol
This video is totally wrong try to react death battle Goku vs Superman debunked by max pook he explains why
There are so many mistakes in it
Or react to Death Battle Stitch vs Rocket (Marvel Vs Disney) Or Genos Vs War Machine (One Punch Man Vs Marvels Iron Man)
Or solid snake vs sam Fischer
One of the biggest problems with Goku vs Superman 2 is that it was made during a time where Goku and his god forms were still developing. Since then, Goku has not only proven he is multi-universal but that when he proved he was capable of that was the BEGINNING of his training. He is HUNDREDS of times stronger than that now.
Comic books vs the world did a video on Goku, he comes to a better strength conclusion than death battle, (40 tons lol) although dragonball super did come out after this first fight, we can see Goku lifting WAY THE FUCK MORE than just 40 tons in base form.
On king kais planet (10x gravity) at the start of super, Goku is the exact same strength he was when he was fighting kid buu before Beerus fights him, Goku is squatting something like a few millions tons in base form. Id check out comic books vs the world for his 2 videos on Goku, definitely worth to see more accurate data on Goku.
something i've noticed about this match up that i don't see people considering is that the strength and speed are almost irrelevant because of all the other abilities superman has that goku doesn't have an answer for. thoughts?
Lol, even if it's was a third match, guko would get his ass kicked 😂
Well, about that...
Rick vs the Doctor has some news for you.
(I haven't watched the video yet so I'll make edit to this after I watch the video)
Oh boy....I can only wonder how you took this