Nicely done video. You answered all my questions even things I didn't think about. Enjoyed a full-watch. Yup, I can imagine digging the pit holes for the lift panels in that hot, humid heat. I'm going through that type of heat spell now. Have a fine week. 👍🏽🤠 8/27/23
hey fred, ive been doing some serious research on car lifts to get a financial goal to afford this lift. i also live in missouri and your long review is fantasic. you answered all my questions. Your absolutely right every lift has a draw back. for me the draw back for this twin busch is the air lock out
I have one of these, too, just not flush mounted. Love it. Perfect for home garage. I cut the beeper wires first thing lol. And I'll say that I 100% agree with your assessment, it's a great setup.
Hey guys, how far from the front wall did you all mount yours. I do work here and there on different vehicles. Would love to lift some bigger SUVs here and there.
@@jeffreygwinn5081 my pit starts 8' from the front wall and that leaves just enough room for a bench and some walking room. 10' would be a lot better though if you have the space
@@FredAllenBurge Thanks! I ended up doing 7' from the front wall. Mine is just sitting on top bolted down. I'm going to save up and countersink it next year. What a difference this makes! Thanks again.
I had a QJ and really liked it. I have never considered a scissor lift, they had zero appeal to me…until now. I really like how this one was mounted. I like how it could be used as a table if you wanted. I think this will be my next lift. Very impressed. Good video and really good job on the install of the lift.
Nice video! We just got our Rav 535 lift from Italy. It was 9500$ so way more expensive than a Twinbush, but its a 3.5t lift what should be a little under 7700 pounds. After our bad experience with our 1 post made in China lift, we decided to get a lift made in Germany or Italy.
@@richharr It is working so nice. Its now 3 months in use and wehad zero issues. I like how easy it is to put a car on the lift and how stable they are on it.
@@stefanolci1708 First it would not work, then the wiring fell apart, it was not welded straight, it started to wear a lot. It was also starting to bend before reaching its supposed max weight. The side opposing the Lift was always hanging down, more with heavier car. Also the tolerances were really bad, what led to the cars on the lift moving more than they should.
Great video man! Now I'm designing my workshop, something small just for my own use, and I don't know at what height to stop. I want to make it as small as possible because the winter is very cold here and I want to heat it. Please tell me how high your garage is above the elevator, (I make the ceiling straight, I don't have a slope) Thank you
Thanks! Height of you shop then will probably depend upon height of average car you intend to lift plus about 6' for the space to walk under. That's how I determined if my shop could accommodate this lift olus a mid sized car. I measured all my cars from frame rail to roof + 6' and tjat showed me that it could be done. Good luck on your shop!
I left the ramps on mine and just leave them level with the rest of the lift. It allows me to have a longer car on the lift. If I need to drop them down I can. I did my pour ahead of time. It was a bit of a pain to get the measurements correct.
I really wanted to like this lift. After all the work to get the concrete floor poured to fit the ramps, hide the hoses and the flush mount worked perfectly. It still allows me to use the ramps for longer vehicles. Unfortunately the lift will not lift a car after it ever stops mid-raise. I have got nothing but run around from Dan at Twin Busch. They blame my power, no high magnetic breaker, low voltage, etc. I ran a dedicated 30 amp circuit. It just bogs and won’t run with weight on it. They don’t stock a new motor. It’s literally never worked other than lift itself. It’s out of warranty and basically scrap. Save your money and buy a bendpack or nussbalm
I am still getting the run around from from them. They say I don’t have enough power, and that electricians don’t know anything ( literally ) it’s still never worked and they won’t sell me a new motor even. It’s pretty much scrap metal at this point. My last ditch effort will be to remove the motor and have it looked at locally. Even if I do get it working, I doubt I will ever trust it. So I think either way I will get rid of it. I really hope you have good luck with yours.
Thanks for the info Fred! Could you tell me how tall your ceilings are where your lift is set up? I'm at about 10 and a half feet high, that being said I'm unsure if this lift would be over kill for me and if I should go with the lower option scissor lift, let me now what you think! Thanks
I had the trusses built up with a peak in the middle to maximize headroom, that was necessary to make full lift height work for my shop. At 10' flat ceilings I think a small car's roof is going to be very close to hitting.
That's how I want to do mine.... But struggling for head room so thinking of getting a mid rise lift and dig half pit so can Stand underneath. Just the concrete strength may be lost where the pit is 😕. How sturdy is yours at full height with a car on it?
I couldn't work under a lift like that. When the rear platform support rolls that far forward of the rear vehicle lift point it looks super sketchy the way the vehicle is balanced and the platform is weighed down.
How do you level the both lifts. Mine has half an inch difference when fully up and one closer to the control panel drops more when near to the ground during lowering
Nice review on the lift! Do you have any issues doing transmission swap, engine swap, or exhaust work with this lift? How much space do you have in the center? I've been debating between a 2-post and a scissor lift like yours.
I have a question that is probably a bit unusual. I'm struggling to find a scissor lift that lifts about as high as this one, but doesn't need to lift more than approx. 150 kg. The size and height of the lift you show is ideal, and should only lift a maximum of two adults for use with a larger astronomical telescope. I therefore do not need a double lift like you have, nor as powerful. Do you have an idea where I can find such a lift at a good price? Thank you in advance.
Hey Fred Great video,, how deep are the recesses in your concrete, sorry if youve answered this before but the manufacture says its 110mm drive on but your recesses look lower , and your installation looks great by the way.
I think Nusbaum goes the highest. I have a 2 post Nusbaum but I'm moving house soon and I don't do a lot of mechanical work any more and those 2 posts really get in the way when your parking your car in between them. I also have a 18 foot hovercraft and the scissor would be ideal to lift it. I guess no one hoist is perfect for every job.
Thank you for the detail. I’m about to form-out the concrete; would you be able to provide the dimensions for the recessed hole? The manual says: 82”x25.5”x4.3”. Also, would a 3” pvc pipe be enough to act as a conduit, to run the hose and lines? Thank you
3" pvc should work yes, mine is no larger than that. I'd strongly suggest waiting on concrete until you get the lift there. The manual is not accurate in dimensions plus you may want to remove the ramps as I did and that will change the dimensions also. Let me know if you still want dimensions and I'll measure it for ya.
@@FredAllenBurge I would love to wait for the lift, unfortunately, I’m forming them, this week, and pouring the concrete on Friday. If you do not mind measuring yours, I would greatly appreciate if; additional what is the thickness of the pad that’s underneath the lift? Their website has one set of measurements, and their documentation has another. I called, they told me that the pad can be 2”, meanwhile, their documentation says it needs to be 7.8”.
@@Fernando-ns3uv I know 9 months have passed since you made your comment but i had to replay, K can't believe they told you the thickness of the pad can be 2" when it should not be less than 7.8" (20cm) by all standards.
Sorry if you allready mentioned in a video, just didn't watch it all. But my question is, can you place lift panels wider or narrower than what is supposed to be by sellers spec? Thanks!
Hey mate what about drainage from spillages etc? I'm soon to be installing one and thinking i might put a pipe with holes sunk into the dirt with a grate for water, coolant etc to drain into
I plan on sinking mine next year. But have run into an issue with narrow framed SUVs. I've seen an adapter kit, and one guy uses 4x4s. Have you run into that yet?
Am also looking for a lift, and came across your video, I think I will be ordering this one in the near future, looks like the most usefull for me :). But I have one question, aren't the wide plates a disadvantage if you want to work on the sills for example? We have standard 1 phase 230v 16 amps, so I hope that the lift rises a bit faster in my case 😬
en tudom a minosegi munka es a minosegi anyag a mai gazdasagi viszonyok kozott de a sokszori hasznalat utan mennyi oldal kilengese lessz majd stabil marad ???? Oooo yes
They are made in Germany, I have two post. Even if they are made in China, why would that be the problem if it is made under license. Most top quality companies have their products made in China because of cheaper labor and parts. Problem with products made in China comes from unlicensed or fake stuff.
Nicely done video. You answered all my questions even things I didn't think about. Enjoyed a full-watch. Yup, I can imagine digging the pit holes for the lift panels in that hot, humid heat. I'm going through that type of heat spell now. Have a fine week. 👍🏽🤠 8/27/23
hey fred, ive been doing some serious research on car lifts to get a financial goal to afford this lift. i also live in missouri and your long review is fantasic. you answered all my questions. Your absolutely right every lift has a draw back. for me the draw back for this twin busch is the air lock out
Team scissor lift here. Thanks for your update. Clean install.
I have one of these, too, just not flush mounted. Love it. Perfect for home garage. I cut the beeper wires first thing lol. And I'll say that I 100% agree with your assessment, it's a great setup.
Good idea! Thay beeper is loud lol
Hey guys, how far from the front wall did you all mount yours. I do work here and there on different vehicles. Would love to lift some bigger SUVs here and there.
@@FredAllenBurge , help me out...lol
@@jeffreygwinn5081 my pit starts 8' from the front wall and that leaves just enough room for a bench and some walking room. 10' would be a lot better though if you have the space
@@FredAllenBurge Thanks! I ended up doing 7' from the front wall. Mine is just sitting on top bolted down. I'm going to save up and countersink it next year. What a difference this makes! Thanks again.
I had a QJ and really liked it. I have never considered a scissor lift, they had zero appeal to me…until now. I really like how this one was mounted. I like how it could be used as a table if you wanted. I think this will be my next lift. Very impressed.
Good video and really good job on the install of the lift.
Thanks Todd I appreciate that👌
Great review, love the flush mount. Think this is the type of lift for me.
Nice Lift! I have max jax in my garage, but i'd definitely get one of these if my ceiling was high.
That is awesome how it's flush with the garage floor
Nice video! We just got our Rav 535 lift from Italy. It was 9500$ so way more expensive than a Twinbush, but its a 3.5t lift what should be a little under 7700 pounds.
After our bad experience with our 1 post made in China lift, we decided to get a lift made in Germany or Italy.
I just bought the same lift used. Pretty good so far, i was pushing it by loading into the bed of my pickup. That thing is heavy
@@richharr It is working so nice. Its now 3 months in use and wehad zero issues. I like how easy it is to put a car on the lift and how stable they are on it.
@@stefanolci1708 First it would not work, then the wiring fell apart, it was not welded straight, it started to wear a lot. It was also starting to bend before reaching its supposed max weight. The side opposing the Lift was always hanging down, more with heavier car. Also the tolerances were really bad, what led to the cars on the lift moving more than they should.
@@stefanolci1708 1 Post 2.5T mobile Lift, no real brand. Looked like the RP Tools one, but they fixed many of the issues on the new one.
Well done! What a clean look
Other than the seriously-loud music, great and informative vid - thanks!!
Great video man!
Now I'm designing my workshop, something small just for my own use, and I don't know at what height to stop. I want to make it as small as possible because the winter is very cold here and I want to heat it.
Please tell me how high your garage is above the elevator, (I make the ceiling straight, I don't have a slope)
Thank you
Thanks! Height of you shop then will probably depend upon height of average car you intend to lift plus about 6' for the space to walk under. That's how I determined if my shop could accommodate this lift olus a mid sized car. I measured all my cars from frame rail to roof + 6' and tjat showed me that it could be done. Good luck on your shop!
Great video.
Thanks for the Video. I was wondering is there is enough room under the car to pull a transmission and manipulate an exhaust?
I left the ramps on mine and just leave them level with the rest of the lift. It allows me to have a longer car on the lift. If I need to drop them down I can. I did my pour ahead of time. It was a bit of a pain to get the measurements correct.
I really wanted to like this lift. After all the work to get the concrete floor poured to fit the ramps, hide the hoses and the flush mount worked perfectly. It still allows me to use the ramps for longer vehicles. Unfortunately the lift will not lift a car after it ever stops mid-raise. I have got nothing but run around from Dan at Twin Busch. They blame my power, no high magnetic breaker, low voltage, etc. I ran a dedicated 30 amp circuit. It just bogs and won’t run with weight on it. They don’t stock a new motor. It’s literally never worked other than lift itself. It’s out of warranty and basically scrap. Save your money and buy a bendpack or nussbalm
I am still getting the run around from from them. They say I don’t have enough power, and that electricians don’t know anything ( literally ) it’s still never worked and they won’t sell me a new motor even. It’s pretty much scrap metal at this point. My last ditch effort will be to remove the motor and have it looked at locally. Even if I do get it working, I doubt I will ever trust it. So I think either way I will get rid of it. I really hope you have good luck with yours.
Thanks. I will try and let you know!
Hi mate
how much should be the place deep to become flat once install the scissor lift
Thanks
@@thefacts...7226 you'll need to check with the manufacturer of your lift to be certain of the depth. It will be different for every brand of lift.
Can you pull out autos with the hoist system
Thanks for the info Fred! Could you tell me how tall your ceilings are where your lift is set up? I'm at about 10 and a half feet high, that being said I'm unsure if this lift would be over kill for me and if I should go with the lower option scissor lift, let me now what you think! Thanks
I had the trusses built up with a peak in the middle to maximize headroom, that was necessary to make full lift height work for my shop. At 10' flat ceilings I think a small car's roof is going to be very close to hitting.
That's how I want to do mine.... But struggling for head room so thinking of getting a mid rise lift and dig half pit so can Stand underneath. Just the concrete strength may be lost where the pit is 😕.
How sturdy is yours at full height with a car on it?
hi, what is the website you order it from?
Nice video! Thanks for posting!
Nice mods to perfect the set up.
I couldn't work under a lift like that. When the rear platform support rolls that far forward of the rear vehicle lift point it looks super sketchy the way the vehicle is balanced and the platform is weighed down.
I find 2 post lifts with those two small pads per side to be way more sketchy. Lots of fail videos out there of those😬
Nice lift and install is on point but holy smokes batman over 2 min just to go up and down? Probably fine for home use but wont work in my shop
Hello,
what thickness and width are the arms of the scissor ?
Thanks.
If no music we can hear how the sound of the lift is quiet or…? Thank you for the video.
@@buuluu7633 it definitely makes some sound, nothing too bad though
How did you get the PVC pipe from the pit to the wall?
It was poured in place when the floor was done
How do you level the both lifts. Mine has half an inch difference when fully up and one closer to the control panel drops more when near to the ground during lowering
@CiaranMal1 there's a leveling procedure in the manual, it's tricky tbh
So what are the actual dimensions? Have they corrected the wrong information on the website?
I would call them to verify dims if you are doing a floor before you have the lift. I think now they sell one for in-floor mounting actually
Nice review on the lift! Do you have any issues doing transmission swap, engine swap, or exhaust work with this lift? How much space do you have in the center? I've been debating between a 2-post and a scissor lift like yours.
No it's perfect for all those projects 👌
Thanks for this video! Have you tried to lift a truck? I have a doge ram 1500 crue cab. In your opinion can it lift the truck?
No I havent tried, not enough space in my shop to fit the length of the truck really
I have a question that is probably a bit unusual. I'm struggling to find a scissor lift that lifts about as high as this one, but doesn't need to lift more than approx. 150 kg. The size and height of the lift you show is ideal, and should only lift a maximum of two adults for use with a larger astronomical telescope. I therefore do not need a double lift like you have, nor as powerful. Do you have an idea where I can find such a lift at a good price? Thank you in advance.
I wish I could offer a suggestion but I really don't know what would be best in that situation honestly.
Hey Fred
Great video,, how deep are the recesses in your concrete, sorry if youve answered this before but the manufacture says its 110mm drive on but your recesses look lower , and your installation looks great by the way.
Thank you👍 I'll have to measure that for ya, I can't recall now it's been a few years.
@@FredAllenBurge AWesome Thank you
@@snakesound approximately 4.25"
Could you move them apart with ramps on ,so you could drive thru or store a car under the one on the lift ?
No I dont think that would work
@FredAllenBurge
Thank you,but just noticed that lift discontinued anyway.
Did i miss it or why didn't you just use the S3-18 for Underfloor Mounting?
Didn't exist at that time or wasn't available in the US anyway
this is a nice lift - half the price of nussbaum. my only gripe with it is the blue. wish they had gray or black.
Agreed, black or grey would be ideal for me too, it would be very easy to repaint though
I think Nusbaum goes the highest. I have a 2 post Nusbaum but I'm moving house soon and I don't do a lot of mechanical work any more and those 2 posts really get in the way when your parking your car in between them. I also have a 18 foot hovercraft and the scissor would be ideal to lift it. I guess no one hoist is perfect for every job.
Thank you for the detail. I’m about to form-out the concrete; would you be able to provide the dimensions for the recessed hole? The manual says: 82”x25.5”x4.3”. Also, would a 3” pvc pipe be enough to act as a conduit, to run the hose and lines? Thank you
3" pvc should work yes, mine is no larger than that. I'd strongly suggest waiting on concrete until you get the lift there. The manual is not accurate in dimensions plus you may want to remove the ramps as I did and that will change the dimensions also. Let me know if you still want dimensions and I'll measure it for ya.
@@FredAllenBurge I would love to wait for the lift, unfortunately, I’m forming them, this week, and pouring the concrete on Friday. If you do not mind measuring yours, I would greatly appreciate if; additional what is the thickness of the pad that’s underneath the lift? Their website has one set of measurements, and their documentation has another. I called, they told me that the pad can be 2”, meanwhile, their documentation says it needs to be 7.8”.
@@Fernando-ns3uv
I know 9 months have passed since you made your comment but i had to replay, K can't believe they told you the thickness of the pad can be 2" when it should not be less than 7.8" (20cm) by all standards.
What size is your shop?
25x50 approximately
@@FredAllenBurge how tall is your garage?
Sorry if you allready mentioned in a video, just didn't watch it all. But my question is, can you place lift panels wider or narrower than what is supposed to be by sellers spec?
Thanks!
No I dont think so
Hey mate what about drainage from spillages etc? I'm soon to be installing one and thinking i might put a pipe with holes sunk into the dirt with a grate for water, coolant etc to drain into
Ive never had any big spills in the pits but ya that's a good idea if you expect to spill a lot
@@FredAllenBurge yeah I often hose and pressure wash my epoxy floor as a part of weekly house keeping.
@@FredAllenBurge also did you just use a standard engine crane to drop the units in?
@@lukecrane774 yes I used my cherry picker. The lifts are extremely heavy though, if you have access to a tractor or forklift that would be ideal
I plan on sinking mine next year. But have run into an issue with narrow framed SUVs. I've seen an adapter kit, and one guy uses 4x4s. Have you run into that yet?
No I haven't but I only work on small to medium sized stuff
Consider cross bars from Stratus scissor lifts, I bought and use them for narrow suv/truck on a bendpak flush scissor.
Am also looking for a lift, and came across your video, I think I will be ordering this one in the near future, looks like the most usefull for me :).
But I have one question, aren't the wide plates a disadvantage if you want to work on the sills for example?
We have standard 1 phase 230v 16 amps, so I hope that the lift rises a bit faster in my case 😬
The wide plates have been no big issue for me personally. If you do a lot of body work maybe another style of lift could be ideal
Hello, do you have a dimensions of your shop?
Would I be able to lift my Yukon slt with your lift?
I believe so
I'm not sure you're old enough to get this reference, but "you had me at 300ZX TT" heh
i'm sold
My only concern is using a transmission jack for a transmission on a truck or suv or a frame mount fuel tank
I was curious if there was enough width between to get a transmission jack through also
Yeah man!
What was the cost of this lift? Including installation, did you have to hire an electrician?
I did all install work except the concrete, wiring is just a 110 outlet. $3800 shipped for the lift I believe it was.
@@FredAllenBurge thanks for the info, I'm contemplating to buy one , you definitely did a great job! Looks very professional!
en tudom a minosegi munka es a minosegi anyag a mai gazdasagi viszonyok kozott de a sokszori hasznalat utan mennyi oldal kilengese lessz majd stabil marad ???? Oooo yes
Actually made in China! No joke
They are made in Germany, I have two post.
Even if they are made in China, why would that be the problem if it is made under license. Most top quality companies have their products made in China because of cheaper labor and parts.
Problem with products made in China comes from unlicensed or fake stuff.
@@bkingtz1 true
@@bkingtz1 Twin Busch is a German company, but the lifts are made in China.
Jeez I didn't realize it took so long to lift. That is painful.
Great review, love the flush mount. I think this is the type of lift for me.