How much recources and money do you think a wormhole would cost over a chopper? (The real thing, not some priced lowered cost like in game, because that would just be a rediculous cost per fulton)
It feels more badass to use the helicopter, especially when you call it into an outpost - Quietly infiltrating an outpost, getting found out, rushing the prisoner into the UH-66 Blackhawk as it lands and escaping the Soviets/PFs.
@@mbk9901 Was playing for the first time last night. Unfortunately, I didn't infiltrate quietly, and before extracting the prisoner I threw the corpses into a ritual mound and strapped a fulton to the poor bastard in honor to the Blood God
I think your point about Venom wanting to "give the children a normal life" kind of falls flat when you consider that Venom originally wanted to make the children soldiers.
In a sense, because at the end of the day he motioned for that, but remember that unlike those who are talked into atrocities as in real life, Venom has explicitly been conditioned through hypnosis to retain Big Boss' memories (such as recruiting Chico with little thought) and so his actions may well be informed by those at first; But this conditioning, also represented by Ocelot on his shoulder, is countered by Kaz, Quiet, Code Talker, and others, and their worldviews and compassion towards V. For a guy who is already known the world over for being charismatic, bold and a natural leader, "Big Boss" sure is talked down to in this game (not to mention impressionable 😉) 😅
I always thought that "man who sold the world" stood for someone making a ton of money at the cost of the world as in the military industrial complex, the oil cartel, big pharma etc It goes very well with the theme of the boss fighting against people making the world a terrible place for the sake of power Never considered the singer up until this point
Also, Kojima actually wanted to use the song "Diamond Dogs", but his team pushed for "The Man Who Sold The World" instead, because they felt it fit better with the themes rather than just being a song that mentions the name of your PMC.
Actually the guns use fake names because of copyright laws and not license costs. The reason being that it is illegal to portray firearms from different makers swapping parts.
I think it also adds to the narrative theme. Previous MGS games had always used real-life guns. The guns in V are familiar shapes, but are fundamentally foreign. Ditto Venom.
Venom Snake wasn't created by Big Boss. He was created by Zero in order to protect Big Boss from Skullface. Ocelot just expanded on that plan more that Zero had the intend. Big Boss had already created Foxhound back in 1970. The reason Big Boss went underground was to create the "true" Outer Heaven while Venom kept the world distracted with Diamond Dogs.
Well it wasn’t Kojima, apparently Kojima wanted to the song Diamond Dogs but his devs convinced him to use The Man Who Sold the World because it fit better.
Do you remember the start of the game? Venom passes Big Boss ON SOME STAIRS. Sure this could also be a funny coincidence, but it is a funny coincidence if it is
I'm glad Kojima chose that version of the song. The opening wouldn't be the same with the David Bowie version. The dream like feeling of the intro alone really adds to the opening scene.
Considering the link between MGSV and 1984, the significance of "The Man Who Sold the World" could be linked to the Poem the Shopkeeper/Thought Policeman says "Under the Spread of the Chestnut Tree, I Sold You and You Sold Me" which is about Betrayal, particularly between Winston and Julia in the Novel, and Everything that Happens in MGSV
It's always interesting to see the pop culture references and inspiration Kojima put in Metal Gear. David Bowie, numerous 80's and 90's Hollywood action films, especially Escape from New York, James Bond, etc.
while this song is him going up a stairs reminds me of his character in the twin peaks movie, he’s ripped out of his reality from a staircase in a hotel to a FBI office years later.
The ocean is a body of water, water isn't wet. Water when applied to say a shirt makes the short wet. Water isn't wet, it's a liquid, it makes things wet
One of my interpretations of the song is that it's a reflection on how your past still can effect or 'control' you and your actions, lying to yourself about whom you are, such as how venom is exposed to how he has been lied to by his own memories saying he is big boss when he is not and as shown by the child soldier treatment, that Venom's past is still affecting him despite how it is a cut off part of him. Another thoguht is the fact it is a midge song to me represents how he is a copy, reflecting on how he is someone else rather than, if the original which I think would be for Big Boss as he is talking inwards to Venom, and the midge being Venom talking to Big Boss, having the same conversation where they reflect on how the other is now apart of their identity as a shared big boss having the other control them in a way through reputation like how venom cam become blood soaked from mass killing through the story, which is also where the different music comes in representing the different situation they fins themselves talking, as Big Boss will be isolated having he guitar, and immediate kick Into the song, being a raw look at what he has created, where Venom fades into a mystical smooth transition sort of like a crisis in ones mind like a mental breakdown/reflection where within a mere 30 seconds you can get into a rabbit hole of thought, as in that he is going into realising what Big Boss and Himself have become and how they are inter locked as separate individual body but becoming the same symbol and person. 2 AM thoughts
So I knew the twist of the game going into it, I heard it was terrible. But when I played it I made sure to always listen to that song whenever I was entering and exiting missions as my Helicopter theme and it really worked wonders. The song became less and less interesting like a worn out cassette. But it was always there, under my skin, under Venom's skin. It would play after triumph and after defeat. It was forever in his ears as it was in mine. Knowing that a character is listing to the same thing you are connects you to them. The twist worked for me because of that. Even tho I knew it, I was able to put myself in Venom's shoes
Also, one of the reasons he used Midge Ure's cover was because Ure was part of Magnavox, a band Kojima liked so much in the 80s, he called one of the bosses of the original MSX Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake as "Magnavox", but the MGS 3 Subsistence releases changed their name to "The Four Horsemen". Kinda plays with the whole former self down the stairs analogy of the song. Plus, that cover is catchy, as, Hell. Oh, no... Not me...
Amanda pointed out that if ever Chico cant handle the shame of selling out his own comrades that Snake would end his life. He took him in as a second chance at life to atone for what he did. theres more plot to it than just "recruiting child soldiers". If he hadn't done it, Chico might've either ended himself or get captured again and rat out his comrades further. To him, it did more good than wrong. Also, Venom did say about training those African Children to be soldiers for Diamond Dogs but Kazuhira told him he'd give them a second chance at a better life instead of being soldiers. There wasn't much difference between them in regrads to taking in Children into Outer Heaven. The only difference was Kaz's decision.
Each version of “The Man Who Sold The World” gives you a different story. One is a wondrous adventure of self. Bowie sang it to tell of his journey of self realization and the forming of who he was. Midge is sung in a way that creates this eerie feeling that you’ve made a terrible mistake you can’t come back from. And Kurt sung it like a swan song. He was planning on selling his world when we he would tragically take his own life.
Also, apart from all that character things from the song, i see it as venom/boss seeling the world as a pioneer of PMC's, who will later dominate the world in proxy wars, he is the man who sold the world to PMC's
If I remember correctly, it's been a while since I've played peace walker. I think he only enlisted Chico becuase of his sister's involvement. Again I could be completely misremembering. Still doesn't excuse what happened to Chico. Man reminds me of the cut Chico plot in phantom pain
Side note: The Labyrinth is one of the greatest films ever friggin made. Man, I need to rewatch it. Shit has some straight JAMS! 🎵"Dance magic dance" 🎶🕺
Venom is more polished then Big Boss due to being made by the biggest fanboy of Big Boss ever. He is an idealized version of the man seen through the lens of Ocelot. Add to the fact that there's a real distinct case to be made that every action of Kaz and Ocelot reinforce Venom's conditioning during the events of MGSV (Isn't the phantom cigar full of psychotropes? Heh) add the effects of the coma and you can see how pliable Venom is to suggestions (Kaz refusing to train the child soldiers makes Big Boss revert 180 on his proposal, in the quarantine mission it is only after Kaz and the rest order the death of the infected that Venom begins to shoot his men, etc etc)
The part regarding the CD copy being the first time the album was released in the US is untrue, or at least you didn't explain it properly I think: TMHSTW was actually first released in the US in vinyl format with the "cartoon" cover you showed early in the video, THEN it was published in the UK with the infamous "dress" cover which is very rare because it was pulled from shelves, and was replaced a few years later with the "kick" cover once Bowie signed with RCA, the "kick" copies are the most common ones because they were released worldwide. 1984 marked the first release of the album on CD in Europe and America, as part of the RCA CD Bowie catalogue with the kick cover for both countries, and this CD copy is very rare and collectible much like the original dress cover UK vinyl pressing. Also, Diamond Dogs was not the retirement album of Ziggy: Ziggy had already been retired by the time Aladdin Sane was released and the characters he used in both the Aladdin Sane tour and the DD ones were different. If anything, DD was his retirement album from Glam Rock as he would later approach different genres of music. It's also rather odd to think that Bowie was thinking of Ziggy when writing The Man Who Sold the World because the character didn't really exist on stage or even on paper: the character was created in 1971 and the album and single were released the year prior. Also I don't think the cover was used for any philosophical reason, but simply because it fits the mood of the main scene it's set to way, way better. The Bowie version is melancholic but has a rather upbeat tempo with latin rhythms, it really wouldn't have fit.
5:54 Watching this clip of "The Abducted Child" cutscene from Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker may also cause some "conflicts" of massive magnitude with the "good listener's" "internal timeline" "for a S-Special reason" expecially considered the subject of the video itself being about David Bowie's "The Man Who Sold The World" song lyrics...
I hate to, but I always have to say it when it comes up: Big Boss never enlisted child soldiers. In Metal Gear 2, the children are war orphans who've been taken in with the same purpose as Venom's adoption of child soldiers in 5. In Peace Walker, he's clearly just trying to make Chico feel better about his situation long enough to get him up and out of there. It is canon that Chico was never used as a soldier, and in fact had to escape Mother Base to head off on his doomed quest to save Paz. Why would he have to escape if he was a soldier? He could've just slipped off during a deployment! He didn't because he never went on one, because he was being kept there to keep him safe. It just irks me to see this myth repeated verbatim. Big Boss made a lot of mistakes, but he wasn't evil. Not at all. Venom comes off as better because he isn't playing the same game as Big Boss is later in the story. Venom is being himself. Big Boss, by the time of MG1 and 2, is actively trying to appear as a villain to draw the world's attention and with the explicit goal of limiting all warfare to the territory of Outer Heaven.
I interpreted staring out at all the millions as Venom on the world stage while Big Boss hides in the shadows. Or maybe both of them on the world stage, confronting the millions.
11:00 slight critique. The AK74 is a real gun. There are 3 basic AK types in 1984 when the game takes place. AK47 (milled receiver in 7.62x39), AKM (stamped receiver in 7.62x39), and AK74 (stamped receiver in 5.45x39). The AKM was the standard Russian service rifle at the time.
mgrv's twist was really easy to figure out, one of my friends played it right when the game was released, but then in 10 minutes he said: is ishmael real big boss? thats why he's doing the fighting? why did i made an avatar?
The reason why he used the man who sold the world is because big biss left everything in the hands of his double from the start the man helping you basically treats you like his friend ("he said i was his friend") but for 9 years he thought the man who was his double was never going to wake up ("i thought you died alone") the entire thing is just a man talking to himself while pointing at different directions.
The Man Who Sold The World is actually the entire ending of the Metal Gear franchise in song form, think about it, listen to the lyrics and look at the ending of MGS4. Come back to me then.
chapter 3 peace wasnt cut out we just havent unlocked it yet it is unlocked once all platforms and regions of tpp acheive nuclear deterence. which has not been acheived on a single platfrom yet and when it was acheived it was a glitch.
I honestly believe Kojima left the game as it was deliberately, he did say it was finished. My interpretation is it is finished for him whilst it leaves us, Venom, with a 'Phantom Pain'... get it? I'm not funny, but I mean it. It makes a lot of sense. But good video on the importance of the song, even if I'm late to the party here.
As I was going up the stairs, I met a man who wasn’t there He wasn’t there again today, I wish I wish he’d go away~ Portion of a poem that inspired “The man who sold the world”
When I played this game for the first time I kinda just played it without thinking because I was a just a kid who never played a Metal gear solid game before so I have no idea I how I got so far in the game. So I guess I'm replaying this game but also playing this game for the first time.
I actually prefer Midge Ure's version - to me the most unique cover of the song.
That’s the one used in game too.
no one mentions that how everyone says it's bowie when its actually someone who sounds like him........
I agree fully. I love the fact it builds and escalates slowly.
@@fire.walk.with.me.430that’s the point, it sounds like him but it’s different, just like venom and big boss
@@fire.walk.with.me.430 you gotta admit, it REALLY sounds like him
Metal gear solid is just a fanfiction about David Bowie and all his character
Oreno navwa Kira Yoshikage.
Bowie was Kojima's Senpai that didn't notice him.
And a giant kin war too
It's about the righting quality of fanfiction too.
Lots of cool ideas though.
>has wormhole fultons
>still extracts the target via helicopter
smh
I was just playing for fun, I like helicopter extracts
Ah cool cool cool
How much recources and money do you think a wormhole would cost over a chopper? (The real thing, not some priced lowered cost like in game, because that would just be a rediculous cost per fulton)
It feels more badass to use the helicopter, especially when you call it into an outpost - Quietly infiltrating an outpost, getting found out, rushing the prisoner into the UH-66 Blackhawk as it lands and escaping the Soviets/PFs.
@@mbk9901
Was playing for the first time last night. Unfortunately, I didn't infiltrate quietly, and before extracting the prisoner I threw the corpses into a ritual mound and strapped a fulton to the poor bastard in honor to the Blood God
I think your point about Venom wanting to "give the children a normal life" kind of falls flat when you consider that Venom originally wanted to make the children soldiers.
In a sense, because at the end of the day he motioned for that, but remember that unlike those who are talked into atrocities as in real life, Venom has explicitly been conditioned through hypnosis to retain Big Boss' memories (such as recruiting Chico with little thought) and so his actions may well be informed by those at first; But this conditioning, also represented by Ocelot on his shoulder, is countered by Kaz, Quiet, Code Talker, and others, and their worldviews and compassion towards V.
For a guy who is already known the world over for being charismatic, bold and a natural leader, "Big Boss" sure is talked down to in this game (not to mention impressionable 😉) 😅
to be fair, he's literally conditioned to be big boss
Midge Ures version also provides a more dark instrumental compared to how the bowie song sounds, it implies it has a more sinister meaning
I always thought that "man who sold the world" stood for someone making a ton of money at the cost of the world as in the military industrial complex, the oil cartel, big pharma etc
It goes very well with the theme of the boss fighting against people making the world a terrible place for the sake of power
Never considered the singer up until this point
Janer Sulce this man said “big pharma” lmao
@@shiquataphus2269 Yes I did
What about it?
Janer Sulce Big pharma is a conspiracy theory.
@Ian Knight Hence he is the titular man who sold the world, also works in the flip where punished/venom snake genuinely fights for a better world
@@LordOwenTheThird I am ashamed of my self
Also, Kojima actually wanted to use the song "Diamond Dogs", but his team pushed for "The Man Who Sold The World" instead, because they felt it fit better with the themes rather than just being a song that mentions the name of your PMC.
Could I have a source?
@@sliceofzura that's clearly kojima's UA-cam account
I think they were right on that change.
@@SirDankleberry I still would have loved for it to play during end credits or unlock as a cassette.
This really makes me hope Black Star is referenced in Death Stranding.
It seems really fitting come to think of it
Genoprototype WHERE THE FUCK DID MONDAY GO
Actually the guns use fake names because of copyright laws and not license costs. The reason being that it is illegal to portray firearms from different makers swapping parts.
I think it also adds to the narrative theme. Previous MGS games had always used real-life guns. The guns in V are familiar shapes, but are fundamentally foreign. Ditto Venom.
then why is ghost recon able to do it....
@@Acuraintegraman1 They pay for it or some of them were not copyrighted
@@Acuraintegraman1 ubisoft probably has rights to a bunch of those things, maybe Japanese law doesn't let kojima do that
@@Acuraintegraman1because this comment is nonsense
They couldn’t use the guns because they didn’t buy the rights to use the guns.
Venom Snake wasn't created by Big Boss. He was created by Zero in order to protect Big Boss from Skullface. Ocelot just expanded on that plan more that Zero had the intend. Big Boss had already created Foxhound back in 1970. The reason Big Boss went underground was to create the "true" Outer Heaven while Venom kept the world distracted with Diamond Dogs.
me at the beginning of mgsv : hey nice song
me during at the last mission : OH NO KOJIMA YOU DIDN'T
Well it wasn’t Kojima, apparently Kojima wanted to the song Diamond Dogs but his devs convinced him to use The Man Who Sold the World because it fit better.
Do you remember the start of the game? Venom passes Big Boss ON SOME STAIRS. Sure this could also be a funny coincidence, but it is a funny coincidence if it is
It's also the first mission, so I don't think it was a coincidence
The diamond dogs are Halloween Jack’s gang, not Ziggy Stardust’s.
There are some other minor mistakes but overall it’s a great informative video
Good call.
Halloween Jack wears an eye patch, just like Big Boss - at least in the photos I seen of him
the man who stole za warudo
何でお前らソードアートオンラインをすきなの kono dio da!
Toki ga ugokidesu
That’s it, I’m telling obi wan
Durararararararararararara
Pucci be like
I'm glad Kojima chose that version of the song. The opening wouldn't be the same with the David Bowie version. The dream like feeling of the intro alone really adds to the opening scene.
Considering the link between MGSV and 1984, the significance of "The Man Who Sold the World" could be linked to the Poem the Shopkeeper/Thought Policeman says "Under the Spread of the Chestnut Tree, I Sold You and You Sold Me" which is about Betrayal, particularly between Winston and Julia in the Novel, and Everything that Happens in MGSV
It's always interesting to see the pop culture references and inspiration Kojima put in Metal Gear. David Bowie, numerous 80's and 90's Hollywood action films, especially Escape from New York, James Bond, etc.
The initial trailer used "Not Your Kind Of People" by Garbage, telling everyone the game's twist before it even came out.
I remember, good point
Nah. It definetly isnt a hint to the end of the game.
*METAL GEAR*
METAL GEAR?
METAL GEAR!
Metal... GEAR..?!
METAL GEAR!
METAL GEAR?!
It would be hilarious if kojima just liked the song so he put it in his game lmao.
a sony walkman
*What a magnificent JoJoke!*
JM Jack McNally Are we talking about Johnny?
How could the vocal cord parasites be a threat in Quiet if they would starve to death after hatching since she doesn’t have lungs?
Nanomachines
Plot holes
she still has lungs, in fact they're perfectly barbequed to perfection, so it'd actually be way worse
They were burnt not destroyed I believe
Here’s another question
WHY THE FUCK COULDN’T SHE JUST SPEAK FUCKING NAVAJO ITS SO FUCKING STUPID.
while this song is him going up a stairs reminds me of his character in the twin peaks movie, he’s ripped out of his reality from a staircase in a hotel to a FBI office years later.
Solid snake is a good game
Also
The Ocean is Wet
The ocean is a body of water, water isn't wet. Water when applied to say a shirt makes the short wet. Water isn't wet, it's a liquid, it makes things wet
@@jeff3221 ................... wet..... is wet.... HOW ABOUT THAT
How can something cause something to be something without being something....something's not right
@@baba-gp8ls ......... what if that something...... is nothing
@@baba-gp8ls Sunlight causes plants to be alive, and by extension, causes all life to exist. Is sunlight itself alive?
The Midge Ure version sounds way cooler.
Thats why.
FINALLY
No it doesn't. Even the nirvana version isn't as good as the original
One of my interpretations of the song is that it's a reflection on how your past still can effect or 'control' you and your actions, lying to yourself about whom you are, such as how venom is exposed to how he has been lied to by his own memories saying he is big boss when he is not and as shown by the child soldier treatment, that Venom's past is still affecting him despite how it is a cut off part of him. Another thoguht is the fact it is a midge song to me represents how he is a copy, reflecting on how he is someone else rather than, if the original which I think would be for Big Boss as he is talking inwards to Venom, and the midge being Venom talking to Big Boss, having the same conversation where they reflect on how the other is now apart of their identity as a shared big boss having the other control them in a way through reputation like how venom cam become blood soaked from mass killing through the story, which is also where the different music comes in representing the different situation they fins themselves talking, as Big Boss will be isolated having he guitar, and immediate kick Into the song, being a raw look at what he has created, where Venom fades into a mystical smooth transition sort of like a crisis in ones mind like a mental breakdown/reflection where within a mere 30 seconds you can get into a rabbit hole of thought, as in that he is going into realising what Big Boss and Himself have become and how they are inter locked as separate individual body but becoming the same symbol and person. 2 AM thoughts
It took 5 years , 5 long years to get the Venom Snake video yet the wait was worth it
> Real Metal Gear Experience
> Shimoneta
DO I DETECT A MESSAGE?
So I knew the twist of the game going into it, I heard it was terrible. But when I played it I made sure to always listen to that song whenever I was entering and exiting missions as my Helicopter theme and it really worked wonders. The song became less and less interesting like a worn out cassette. But it was always there, under my skin, under Venom's skin. It would play after triumph and after defeat. It was forever in his ears as it was in mine. Knowing that a character is listing to the same thing you are connects you to them. The twist worked for me because of that. Even tho I knew it, I was able to put myself in Venom's shoes
Also, one of the reasons he used Midge Ure's cover was because Ure was part of Magnavox, a band Kojima liked so much in the 80s, he called one of the bosses of the original MSX Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake as "Magnavox", but the MGS 3 Subsistence releases changed their name to "The Four Horsemen".
Kinda plays with the whole former self down the stairs analogy of the song. Plus, that cover is catchy, as, Hell.
Oh, no... Not me...
Amanda pointed out that if ever Chico cant handle the shame of selling out his own comrades that Snake would end his life. He took him in as a second chance at life to atone for what he did. theres more plot to it than just "recruiting child soldiers". If he hadn't done it, Chico might've either ended himself or get captured again and rat out his comrades further.
To him, it did more good than wrong. Also, Venom did say about training those African Children to be soldiers for Diamond Dogs but Kazuhira told him he'd give them a second chance at a better life instead of being soldiers.
There wasn't much difference between them in regrads to taking in Children into Outer Heaven. The only difference was Kaz's decision.
Each version of “The Man Who Sold The World” gives you a different story. One is a wondrous adventure of self. Bowie sang it to tell of his journey of self realization and the forming of who he was. Midge is sung in a way that creates this eerie feeling that you’ve made a terrible mistake you can’t come back from. And Kurt sung it like a swan song. He was planning on selling his world when we he would tragically take his own life.
>this video contains spoilers
one second later
>*reveals the twist in the last mission*
Also, apart from all that character things from the song, i see it as venom/boss seeling the world as a pioneer of PMC's, who will later dominate the world in proxy wars, he is the man who sold the world to PMC's
I D O L I K E M Y W A L K M A N
I get that Meti really really loves musical references having actual meaning in the plot of a piece of media.
If I remember correctly, it's been a while since I've played peace walker. I think he only enlisted Chico becuase of his sister's involvement. Again I could be completely misremembering. Still doesn't excuse what happened to Chico.
Man reminds me of the cut Chico plot in phantom pain
Kojima is Araki in Video Games ( but he remembers things)
This song is so good I listen to it constantly
Waiting 2 years for that venom snake vid
Thanks for the explanations ! As a french player i never thought about that deep reference for David Bowie (I played only MGSV)
Side note: The Labyrinth is one of the greatest films ever friggin made. Man, I need to rewatch it. Shit has some straight JAMS!
🎵"Dance magic dance" 🎶🕺
1:14 Please do a more in-depth video on Venom Snake. You think he's a great character for all the same reasons I do and I'd love to hear more.
Venom is more polished then Big Boss due to being made by the biggest fanboy of Big Boss ever.
He is an idealized version of the man seen through the lens of Ocelot.
Add to the fact that there's a real distinct case to be made that every action of Kaz and Ocelot reinforce Venom's conditioning during the events of MGSV (Isn't the phantom cigar full of psychotropes? Heh) add the effects of the coma and you can see how pliable Venom is to suggestions (Kaz refusing to train the child soldiers makes Big Boss revert 180 on his proposal, in the quarantine mission it is only after Kaz and the rest order the death of the infected that Venom begins to shoot his men, etc etc)
Moar... Metal... GEAR
your Rival. What series is your pic from.
I thought that it was "I gazed a *Gazely* stare."
This is spot fucking on! Thank you for putting into words what my brain can't
"The man who sold the world."
That's actually pretty badass.
The part regarding the CD copy being the first time the album was released in the US is untrue, or at least you didn't explain it properly I think: TMHSTW was actually first released in the US in vinyl format with the "cartoon" cover you showed early in the video, THEN it was published in the UK with the infamous "dress" cover which is very rare because it was pulled from shelves, and was replaced a few years later with the "kick" cover once Bowie signed with RCA, the "kick" copies are the most common ones because they were released worldwide. 1984 marked the first release of the album on CD in Europe and America, as part of the RCA CD Bowie catalogue with the kick cover for both countries, and this CD copy is very rare and collectible much like the original dress cover UK vinyl pressing.
Also, Diamond Dogs was not the retirement album of Ziggy: Ziggy had already been retired by the time Aladdin Sane was released and the characters he used in both the Aladdin Sane tour and the DD ones were different. If anything, DD was his retirement album from Glam Rock as he would later approach different genres of music. It's also rather odd to think that Bowie was thinking of Ziggy when writing The Man Who Sold the World because the character didn't really exist on stage or even on paper: the character was created in 1971 and the album and single were released the year prior.
Also I don't think the cover was used for any philosophical reason, but simply because it fits the mood of the main scene it's set to way, way better. The Bowie version is melancholic but has a rather upbeat tempo with latin rhythms, it really wouldn't have fit.
I always took Venom as more sorrowful version of big boss due to his medic background
you forgot the cassette was labelled "*From* the man who sold the world"
This is such a great insight into kojima's design perspective! Great video! Absolutely loved it, keep it up!
I feel like I might now check out Metal Gear 5 because this video. Thanks for the interesting analysis!
5:54 Watching this clip of "The Abducted Child" cutscene from Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker may also cause some "conflicts" of massive magnitude with the "good listener's" "internal timeline" "for a S-Special reason" expecially considered the subject of the video itself being about David Bowie's "The Man Who Sold The World" song lyrics...
How didnt i get this earlier.
I was played like a damn fiddle!
Wait...Guy changes identity...Holy fuck Araki you clever bastard.
*Larry…Cancel my appointments*
I hate to, but I always have to say it when it comes up: Big Boss never enlisted child soldiers. In Metal Gear 2, the children are war orphans who've been taken in with the same purpose as Venom's adoption of child soldiers in 5. In Peace Walker, he's clearly just trying to make Chico feel better about his situation long enough to get him up and out of there. It is canon that Chico was never used as a soldier, and in fact had to escape Mother Base to head off on his doomed quest to save Paz. Why would he have to escape if he was a soldier? He could've just slipped off during a deployment! He didn't because he never went on one, because he was being kept there to keep him safe.
It just irks me to see this myth repeated verbatim. Big Boss made a lot of mistakes, but he wasn't evil. Not at all. Venom comes off as better because he isn't playing the same game as Big Boss is later in the story. Venom is being himself. Big Boss, by the time of MG1 and 2, is actively trying to appear as a villain to draw the world's attention and with the explicit goal of limiting all warfare to the territory of Outer Heaven.
I hadn’t even thought of the fact that it’s the cover version of the song being important. It fits perfectly
would you believed that i just finished your video on the Boss' will before seeing this one?
I interpreted staring out at all the millions as Venom on the world stage while Big Boss hides in the shadows. Or maybe both of them on the world stage, confronting the millions.
11:00 slight critique. The AK74 is a real gun. There are 3 basic AK types in 1984 when the game takes place. AK47 (milled receiver in 7.62x39), AKM (stamped receiver in 7.62x39), and AK74 (stamped receiver in 5.45x39). The AKM was the standard Russian service rifle at the time.
mgrv's twist was really easy to figure out, one of my friends played it right when the game was released, but then in 10 minutes he said: is ishmael real big boss? thats why he's doing the fighting? why did i made an avatar?
This man is single handedly improving my English literature
Great video. Even now after all these years, you can still make an interesting analysis.
Venom Snake: That damn music follows me everywhere.
The reason why he used the man who sold the world is because big biss left everything in the hands of his double from the start the man helping you basically treats you like his friend ("he said i was his friend") but for 9 years he thought the man who was his double was never going to wake up ("i thought you died alone") the entire thing is just a man talking to himself while pointing at different directions.
And for this, you’ve gained a subscriber
Venom was created by cipher not big boss
The Man Who Sold The World is actually the entire ending of the Metal Gear franchise in song form, think about it, listen to the lyrics and look at the ending of MGS4. Come back to me then.
didn't know Kojima himself decided to make a cameo in a mega64 he truly is the best of us
This vide0 is brilliant, love your analyst
Now do one on Duran Duran.
2:50 That's actually Halloween Jack, not Ziggy Stardust
chapter 3 peace wasnt cut out we just havent unlocked it yet it is unlocked once all platforms and regions of tpp acheive nuclear deterence. which has not been acheived on a single platfrom yet and when it was acheived it was a glitch.
good job man this is good content
"Bowie is to Kojima, what Ye is to me." I commented on this and remembered that Kanye West and David Bowie are the same person.
Wait it was supposed to be a twist? I thought you were supposed to know from the beginning.
Where’s that venom snake video
the Midge Ure version is also perfect because you're not playing as the "original" Big Boss
Never even played this game but still watched.
Why do you wake up the soldiers after putting to sleep with your trang gun?
i wonder how much money he got for it
*sitcom laugh track followed by awkward silence*
I honestly believe Kojima left the game as it was deliberately, he did say it was finished. My interpretation is it is finished for him whilst it leaves us, Venom, with a 'Phantom Pain'... get it? I'm not funny, but I mean it. It makes a lot of sense. But good video on the importance of the song, even if I'm late to the party here.
As I was going up the stairs, I met a man who wasn’t there
He wasn’t there again today, I wish I wish he’d go away~
Portion of a poem that inspired “The man who sold the world”
Did anyone else catch Meti's voice crack at around 9:58?
Yo I want that future video about venom snake... aka the greatest snake
Big Boss never lost his ability to think rationally. And it wansn't Venom's idea to give child soldiers a normal life. It was Miller's.
Man that cameo he made
Kojima, you magnificent bastard.
This would have been the best game ever if there was a jumb button
Big Boss’ recruitment of Chico reminds me a LOT Batman.
so, did meti write Shimoneta ?
When I played this game for the first time I kinda just played it without thinking because I was a just a kid who never played a Metal gear solid game before so I have no idea I how I got so far in the game. So I guess I'm replaying this game but also playing this game for the first time.
How about kojima used Midge Ure's cover just because it sounds good and has neat vibes to it?
Did that venom snake video ever drop?
Wow dude this was Amazing
Then again, neither Chico nor Venom actually intended to put them on the front line, Chico by his own dumb volition decides to run off and save Paz.
I'm stupid, I misread Phantom Pain as Phantom Blood
Lets be honest, most of us knew the twist before the game even came out. Alot of us played MGS4.