Blockstar on Facing a Life Sentence at 15 for Pop Smoke's Mu*der

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
  • Full interview • Blockstar on The M*rde...
    -------
    Main channel No Jumper channel / nojumper
    Follow us on Social Media:
    / 4874336901
    / nojumper
    / nojumper
    / nojumperofficial
    / nojumper
    JOIN THE DISCORD: / discord
    Follow Adam22:
    / adam22
    / adam22
    / adam22
    adam22bro on Snapchat

КОМЕНТАРІ • 429

  • @relientkenny
    @relientkenny 3 місяці тому +172

    ngl this shit is wack af. no wonder all the good ppl from no jumper been left. this is sick af

    • @DaBoot337
      @DaBoot337 3 місяці тому +2

      But you came and comment

    • @cozarttunes
      @cozarttunes 3 місяці тому +8

      They talk about gangbanging, scamming, robbing, killing, etc... all the time. This is what you like. Own it

    • @JohnBillow
      @JohnBillow 2 місяці тому

      ​@@DaBoot337ok, shit still wack

    • @xdura4350
      @xdura4350 2 місяці тому

      This guy a dead man walking adam could have set this perfect this puts this man out their more and he gonna get dropped

  • @spoodieblack3500
    @spoodieblack3500 3 місяці тому +320

    The fact Adam did this interview is sad

    • @cody7378
      @cody7378 3 місяці тому +24

      But u still watching tho ain't cha💯

    • @ChetHopings
      @ChetHopings 3 місяці тому +8

      Why⁉️...if he didn't someone else would‼️besides‼️folks have been interviewed who've committed some of da most heinous crimes ever‼️i.e. John Wayne Gacy‼️da Ice Man had a HBO special behind him being interviewed etc‼️

    • @ltx383
      @ltx383 3 місяці тому +3

      Probably watched the entire thing too

    • @frozenworldmedia
      @frozenworldmedia 3 місяці тому +5

      He’s a journalist he did nothing wrong

    • @rldeuce8829
      @rldeuce8829 3 місяці тому

      And you watch every clip

  • @objyashad1542
    @objyashad1542 3 місяці тому +94

    The down fall of no jumper should be studied 📖

    • @savxav6x3
      @savxav6x3 3 місяці тому +1

      Point & shoot's channel

    • @Nemo71340
      @Nemo71340 2 місяці тому +2

      It won't fall off though, too many little hats and all Adams dads friends won't let that happen.

    • @elijahashman9716
      @elijahashman9716 2 місяці тому

      @@Nemo71340just illuminati

  • @machomusprime50
    @machomusprime50 3 місяці тому +52

    He keeps saying he's not stupid.. But all his actions say otherwise.

    • @Tommy2Txmes
      @Tommy2Txmes 2 місяці тому +1

      I was thinking the same thing.

  • @stringer2295
    @stringer2295 3 місяці тому +181

    Adam is who yall think vlad is

  • @osj313
    @osj313 3 місяці тому +148

    Adam ain’t shit for real

    • @TeamLA24
      @TeamLA24 3 місяці тому +2

      Like u and ur momma😂

    • @tribecalledshabbazz8758
      @tribecalledshabbazz8758 3 місяці тому +2

      Been

    • @elijahashman9716
      @elijahashman9716 2 місяці тому

      He let yall know that years ago stop thinking he different nah he exactly who you think he is!

  • @ogbobeatstvsneakersnewsstocks
    @ogbobeatstvsneakersnewsstocks 3 місяці тому +103

    Adam continues to show his true true colors

    • @ltx383
      @ltx383 3 місяці тому +3

      Lmfao bro you’re a subscriber

    • @zaicustis
      @zaicustis 3 місяці тому

      F adam Blockstar drop gems

    • @T1K23
      @T1K23 3 місяці тому +3

      How ? Killers always do interviews. Adam not from NY has no ties to pop smoke at all

    • @RELLMGN
      @RELLMGN 3 місяці тому

      @@ltx383tf does that have to do with anything

    • @DaBoot337
      @DaBoot337 3 місяці тому

      ​@RELLMGN it does mean something he's watching fool. Are you slow lil ngl?

  • @dwalkeradz
    @dwalkeradz 3 місяці тому +76

    This isn't a good look.

    • @elijahashman9716
      @elijahashman9716 2 місяці тому

      He doing for views and money never looks !

  • @qubeclowe1827
    @qubeclowe1827 3 місяці тому +39

    It’s crazy to think this is the world we live in POPSMOKE would have been one of the top guys still to this day! Your foul and sick for doing this interview but hey you let black guys “tea bag your wife”

  • @GankTown
    @GankTown 3 місяці тому +58

    Adam knew to have his sidekick in fed-ery sit in on this one 🤣🤣

  • @trizzy1232
    @trizzy1232 3 місяці тому +59

    Lame clout chasing 15 minute of fame interview. Whack asf

    • @dragonxz61
      @dragonxz61 2 місяці тому

      15 minutes of fame and 15 years in prison. You can't get dumber than this..

    • @Nepiermyrick_
      @Nepiermyrick_ 2 місяці тому

      True

  • @bpap19
    @bpap19 2 місяці тому +6

    Didn’t sound like jail it sounded like house arrest and for a murder charge is WILD

  • @LORD_HYBRID
    @LORD_HYBRID 3 місяці тому +26

    They need to start giving kids life without

    • @TeamLA24
      @TeamLA24 3 місяці тому +1

      Ur slow 😂

    • @thevisual777
      @thevisual777 3 місяці тому

      @@TeamLA24ur slow if you think kids should get a slap on the wrist like this when they purposely commit murder.

    • @tanthony298
      @tanthony298 3 місяці тому +12

      If the crime is heinous enough theres no coming back from that

    • @chipwilliams6236
      @chipwilliams6236 3 місяці тому +2

      by calling them kids your no better

  • @GankTown
    @GankTown 3 місяці тому +23

    The new keefy D

  • @L0n_e0
    @L0n_e0 3 місяці тому +54

    aint no way this a real interview

    • @danmacpherson7658
      @danmacpherson7658 3 місяці тому

      Mann people need to stop being surprised, didn't Dahmer get interviewed, and Gacy, all sorts of killers who have killed way more people than this bozo

  • @moneymoney3235
    @moneymoney3235 3 місяці тому +32

    This was unexpected asf

  • @ItsEricaBeyetch
    @ItsEricaBeyetch 2 місяці тому +8

    Nothing behind his eyes. No soul. A real life npc.

    • @GoGetYourShinebox
      @GoGetYourShinebox 2 місяці тому

      You realise most rappers come from that same lifestyle, Pop himself. They were in the game too

    • @ItsEricaBeyetch
      @ItsEricaBeyetch 2 місяці тому

      @@GoGetYourShinebox *people from the same area are all exactly alike* if you don't see the difference between him and pop smoke odk what to tell you.

  • @TheDDangler
    @TheDDangler 2 місяці тому +4

    Your daughter is gonna despise her father, absolutely disgusting having him on Mr. GrandMaison

  • @marquescoleman724
    @marquescoleman724 3 місяці тому +41

    AK told yall don’t interview dude!

  • @MoviesComicsMemories
    @MoviesComicsMemories 2 місяці тому +17

    He's dead inside.
    No conscious.
    Dead inside.
    Yall be safe out there.
    He ain't the only one.

    • @louisxiii3765
      @louisxiii3765 2 місяці тому

      Faxt this statement here is too real

    • @srtchris-l1f
      @srtchris-l1f 2 місяці тому

      hes on opiates

    • @elijahashman9716
      @elijahashman9716 2 місяці тому

      He sold his soul longtime ago that’s why he dead inside he sold his wife his sold his friend he probably sell kid

  • @thebang9935
    @thebang9935 3 місяці тому +14

    I feel like Pop Smoke should be talking instead. Fam can go get off the school buss. I don’t see why this interview was relevant 🐷

    • @EmilyMalebane-pw1ed
      @EmilyMalebane-pw1ed 2 місяці тому +1

      Even pop wasn't relevant like your comment.pop been rapping about being a killer and he got killed for that shit drill music is shit

  • @theravagedgrapefruit8190
    @theravagedgrapefruit8190 2 місяці тому +4

    This kids lawyer is doing backflips.

  • @diamontejohnson399
    @diamontejohnson399 3 місяці тому +21

    Definition of bad business

    • @Superpity07
      @Superpity07 3 місяці тому

      you don't know business, tool

  • @letmebreakitdown2u152
    @letmebreakitdown2u152 2 місяці тому +3

    He explained what the criminal justice system is like in LA. Murder someone and you are in the juvenile hall eating whatever you want, playing PlayStation all day and smoking weed openly in the dayroom, and having whatever food you want plus cell phones. He said it's just like being out free, except there are no girls. The staff there has been telling this story but no one listens. The new laws make it a continuous party time in LA County Juvenile Hall. This is why there is no remorse. Why would there be? He literally told you he had a great time in there!
    Thank District Attorney Gascon for allowing this.

  • @ChristineMcNulty-eh1qv
    @ChristineMcNulty-eh1qv 3 місяці тому +11

    You can interview kids in Chicago doing those types of crimes

  • @TorchersLive
    @TorchersLive 3 місяці тому +21

    Akademiks really be using the art of war he primed up the common fan base they share to say how bad it is to do this interview and now the backlash is crazier, the way Akademiks spoke on it making sure his audience know who the enemy is, it was a brilliant move

  • @luedagangsta2645
    @luedagangsta2645 2 місяці тому +6

    so he cut off his ankle monitor to go do interviews on NoJumper . Gen Z ass shit 😂

  • @KPAKapalot-wx4cf
    @KPAKapalot-wx4cf 3 місяці тому +20

    Adam slow for this one

    • @Black____
      @Black____ 2 місяці тому

      “This” one??

  • @breonmitchell2443
    @breonmitchell2443 3 місяці тому +26

    Need cancel adam today he devil

    • @leathers970
      @leathers970 2 місяці тому +1

      U mad at Adam's punk ass but u ain't mad at the lil boy that shot pop

    • @GoGetYourShinebox
      @GoGetYourShinebox 2 місяці тому

      @@leathers970 He obv mad at Adam for interviewing the kid that he's mad at lol keep up

  • @klydeb1569
    @klydeb1569 3 місяці тому +17

    Bruh Adam doing anything for views as this point

    • @leathers970
      @leathers970 2 місяці тому +1

      And there's a line around the block to jump on his platform.

    • @Black____
      @Black____ 2 місяці тому

      “At this point”??

  • @CarlosOlivas676
    @CarlosOlivas676 3 місяці тому +13

    Yall love the drill music till yall see the reality of it , everybody in these comments talking about this sick af 😂 but yall bumping all the music about smoking opps. This is the reality of it, once the reality slap yall all a sudden it’s “sick and twisted” 😂😂 this is what pop smoke rapped about til it came to his literal doorstep that’s the streets. RIP to that man but this is what comes with it.

    • @dragonxz61
      @dragonxz61 2 місяці тому

      Pop smoke rapped about shooting people and killing people and doing time. It's the life he chose I don't feel much remorse for people who promote killing, honestly its not surprising Pop was popped.
      It's laughable to see him heralded as a saint or anything close to that.

    • @mykeynotyours8724
      @mykeynotyours8724 2 місяці тому +1

      You ain't lying...

  • @ReesoRich
    @ReesoRich 3 місяці тому +33

    Adam purposely about to get this lil boys Taco smoked

    • @elijahashman9716
      @elijahashman9716 2 місяці тому +1

      That was one of the goals of this interview so when this guy die People view this interview more so he gets more money and He did this interview for shock value as well

  • @carltonfripp8407
    @carltonfripp8407 3 місяці тому +17

    This is weird

  • @killahkasino709
    @killahkasino709 3 місяці тому +34

    Lil bro playing a dangerous game on hood 🥶♿

    • @TeamLA24
      @TeamLA24 3 місяці тому +10

      NO ONE SLIDING FOR POP SMOKE SIT DOWN😂

    • @killahkasino709
      @killahkasino709 3 місяці тому +6

      @@TeamLA24 why u tell me that for ?

    • @fann-nytube360
      @fann-nytube360 3 місяці тому +1

      Dude in la cuh nobody touching cuh in la​@@killahkasino709

    • @killahkasino709
      @killahkasino709 3 місяці тому +2

      @@fann-nytube360 but why y'all telling me ? When I said lil bro , I could be talking about adam gang , it's just youtube gang I don't care if he gets got or not respectfully

    • @zaytime4156
      @zaytime4156 3 місяці тому

      On bloods

  • @robertmyers-i7f
    @robertmyers-i7f 3 місяці тому +11

    Why hide the joint its indistinguishable from a cigarette?

    • @slapwoodsnhenny
      @slapwoodsnhenny 3 місяці тому +18

      they wanna eliminate any chance of demonitization to make sure they profit off of this interview

    • @Ishbikes
      @Ishbikes 3 місяці тому +1

      @@slapwoodsnhennyeeewww I really didn’t want to comment for that exact reason. However, that is just disgusting.

  • @heyyyBigHead
    @heyyyBigHead 3 місяці тому +8

    Stop supporting the colonizer

  • @r.w.6556
    @r.w.6556 3 місяці тому +8

    Y'all crazy for this one boy...

  • @Cucuy562
    @Cucuy562 3 місяці тому +5

    Damn, this will be his last interview 💀 🪦

  • @skellz215
    @skellz215 2 місяці тому +2

    Bro didn’t deserve a interview Adam gonna get somebody killed with the foolishness playing on murders & gang beefs 🤦🏾‍♂️💯

  • @woewoevision2812
    @woewoevision2812 3 місяці тому +12

    Everybody saying he wrong but they watching.. like this his first time interviewing a killer or something lol? Oh its pop smoke so...

  • @Strap1700
    @Strap1700 3 місяці тому +7

    LONG LIVE POP SMOKE THIS BOY A GOOFY ‼️

  • @riccoonthebeat
    @riccoonthebeat 3 місяці тому +7

    Tbh he doesn’t seem like a fucked up person he just adapted to his environment

    • @GoGetYourShinebox
      @GoGetYourShinebox 2 місяці тому

      Most of those that are down like that grew up in that environment since kids, know no different. It's a crying shame. That's why it's worth looking at how those communities came to be in the first place. There's some foul play involved higher up the chain, I'd wager that

  • @reaper2x698
    @reaper2x698 3 місяці тому +4

    You really did a interview with him he needa be boycotted shit wild fr he stirring up shit low key

  • @Wildncrazyfigs
    @Wildncrazyfigs 3 місяці тому +4

    This kid must be doing this for the check

  • @KiloOscar1776
    @KiloOscar1776 2 місяці тому +2

    I’ll give him a year before someone retaliates

  • @50statee
    @50statee 2 місяці тому +2

    Adam finna interview George Zimmerman next

  • @dctae
    @dctae 3 місяці тому +3

    he got a real life sentence ..if he keep doing interviews with this clout chaser Adam who doing this for money..💯

  • @DomniqueKendrick
    @DomniqueKendrick 3 місяці тому +11

    Bro is traumatized about that shyt you can see it on him

    • @leathers970
      @leathers970 2 місяці тому

      No telling how many people he did like that .he's upset because he got caught.

  • @girlsnotblue3804
    @girlsnotblue3804 3 місяці тому +9

    .man why u let him in the building

    • @TeamLA24
      @TeamLA24 3 місяці тому

      Cuz he can do something 😂

  • @newbunny8674
    @newbunny8674 2 місяці тому +1

    Don’t sound like this dude regrets what he did

  • @YungSuave
    @YungSuave 2 місяці тому +2

    Doing this interview for views and monetization is nasty work smh Adam need to do better and remo

  • @WeezyApologist
    @WeezyApologist 3 місяці тому +7

    Why are they covering up his blunt or whatever?

    • @Ishbikes
      @Ishbikes 3 місяці тому +1

      They want to monetize the video by any means

    • @dragonxz61
      @dragonxz61 2 місяці тому

      💰

  • @cbbro4890
    @cbbro4890 3 місяці тому +2

    Throwing up the set in front of barrack is pretty out there bud 😂😂😂😅😂😅😂

    • @GoodEnergy_101
      @GoodEnergy_101 3 місяці тому +1

      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Ishbikes
      @Ishbikes 3 місяці тому

      And when he does it, I hope the secret service thinks that’s some kind of threat.

  • @spectadonis
    @spectadonis 3 місяці тому +3

    Yo Adam just put his self in something real irreversible.. Smh.
    NO PRESS LIKE THE PRESS..
    🎉 .. Take these now.
    It's going to be bad weather in the future forecast

  • @leroyjenkins7549
    @leroyjenkins7549 3 місяці тому +4

    I ain’t gone lie ion know dude that be interviewing with Adam sometimes but I hope somebody check him or get on his ass because he be doing some police ass shit fr

  • @tiptoe2x672
    @tiptoe2x672 3 місяці тому +2

    Was waiting for this proves durk saying Adam ina way

  • @brentgreen3252
    @brentgreen3252 3 місяці тому +4

    Oweeee this NASTYY WORKK

  • @gee_2383
    @gee_2383 3 місяці тому +1

    This interview sound more like an interrogation lol

  • @tdizzal6291
    @tdizzal6291 2 місяці тому +1

    What i dont get is so many people hating this guy for being part of Po smokes demise but they celebrate drillers like Bobby Smurda and Sheff G for example who have allegedly been involved in taking people's lives. It appears people only care because Pop smoke was a popular rapper. Or how people were angry when that lil Timmy took out Von, yet Von was accused of taking lives.

    • @kf9926
      @kf9926 2 місяці тому

      And labels promote killers more than Adam 22

  • @BEATSbyDGIB
    @BEATSbyDGIB 3 місяці тому +4

    Wow...the disrespect Adam don't give a fuck he just want views

    • @elijahashman9716
      @elijahashman9716 2 місяці тому +1

      He sold his soul longtime ago his dead inside

  • @tf8187
    @tf8187 3 місяці тому +2

    So why didn’t they ask how much they each got?? Since he said it wasn’t worth taking someone’s life.

    • @rldeuce8829
      @rldeuce8829 3 місяці тому +1

      He said no amount of money is worth someone’s life

    • @tf8187
      @tf8187 3 місяці тому

      @@rldeuce8829 yh but he didn’t say how much he got. That’s what I wanted to know. That was my question how much money did he make when he robbed and killed pop smoke.

    • @dragonxz61
      @dragonxz61 2 місяці тому

      Well, he got nothing in the end. If he was dumb enough to keep his phone and all the evidence I'm sure they found everything else.

  • @domodomo4032
    @domodomo4032 3 місяці тому +1

    He so worried about the police and going back to jail, like his life isn't on the line🤔

  • @stanleezylegendary9369
    @stanleezylegendary9369 3 місяці тому +1

    What’s really sad is I don’t think this yungin made it to the third grade and had a f’d up broken home. Who is he people to let him do this

  • @franklynmaldonadogor2
    @franklynmaldonadogor2 2 місяці тому +1

    He’s making himself a target

  • @geewood8770
    @geewood8770 3 місяці тому +2

    Texas it would've been over

  • @Xtra1_
    @Xtra1_ 2 місяці тому +1

    What a waste of space 🤌🏻

  • @dktreee
    @dktreee 3 місяці тому +2

    Adam a target rn

  • @chuck9380
    @chuck9380 2 місяці тому

    People sad for the interview but this is life in the streets.

  • @ishootbangers
    @ishootbangers 3 місяці тому +1

    Vlad rubbing his hands like birdman after watching this…..
    Vlad: alright welcome to Vlad TV let’s start from the beginning

    • @bagchaser-er7bm
      @bagchaser-er7bm 3 місяці тому +5

      You don’t gotta comment this every vid we get it

    • @msswan1374
      @msswan1374 3 місяці тому +2

      @@bagchaser-er7bm 🤣

  • @stormvillians
    @stormvillians 2 місяці тому +1

    Adam think he cant get smoked too in ny for this .... he wild smh

  • @jajabinks4733
    @jajabinks4733 3 місяці тому +4

    Riemoh a Oreo

  • @GOILL
    @GOILL 2 місяці тому

    This is the issue that was addressed on the JBP and people were capeing for No Jumper....

  • @BigChris940
    @BigChris940 3 місяці тому +1

    Bricc already put him on the Kill Squad

  • @T.Darell
    @T.Darell 2 місяці тому

    This interview is going to be the one that bring no jumper completely down smh

  • @Jet_laggedB6
    @Jet_laggedB6 2 місяці тому

    Adam use that paper to shut kids like this voice up, not let them speak

  • @daribanz
    @daribanz 2 місяці тому

    Man he act slow ash, whoever did a crime wit him deserve to be caught

  • @ftfpablo9909
    @ftfpablo9909 3 місяці тому +1

    It’s all a cycle & Adam continues it. Ian even watch it. Just seeing this was enough.

  • @muppet_horse
    @muppet_horse 2 місяці тому

    Please just let him go to jail for his entire life and Adam22 As well.

  • @Coolness18304
    @Coolness18304 3 місяці тому +2

    How much this set no jumper back?

  • @bluenotez3234
    @bluenotez3234 3 місяці тому +1

    I pray one day Pop avenges his death the same way PAC did in the Hail Mary video

  • @TrueGamer-be1sg
    @TrueGamer-be1sg 2 місяці тому

    How he out, The rest of them in. He snitched

  • @ikatelimnyamashorts3088
    @ikatelimnyamashorts3088 2 місяці тому +1

    Adam they're coming for you. Keep the family safe.

  • @K3ALBOY
    @K3ALBOY 2 місяці тому

    Interview while he on the run is chasin it fasho

  • @MarcoBandsTV
    @MarcoBandsTV 3 місяці тому +4

    reimoh a police

  • @Day215Day
    @Day215Day 3 місяці тому +1

    We not boycotting no jumper yet?

  • @willthebestbest9667
    @willthebestbest9667 2 місяці тому

    The youth are looking at this and the system has failed! America is gone!

  • @WaleedReeves-d9h
    @WaleedReeves-d9h 2 місяці тому

    This is sick ...this young man won't live long

  • @giveit2emraw94
    @giveit2emraw94 2 місяці тому

    We need to stop giving Adam views he a real clout chaser

  • @skeamzsknar1679
    @skeamzsknar1679 3 місяці тому

    Complaining about the video but watching it at the same time. 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @amgmeplzsayso7878
    @amgmeplzsayso7878 2 місяці тому +1

    These kids are slow af ...the life u took never coming home 🏠 so wats the difference!!!!

  • @aliatianna888
    @aliatianna888 2 місяці тому

    This is horrendous.

  • @Ree_lucky7
    @Ree_lucky7 2 місяці тому

    I can’t wrap my mind around this shit 🤯 just senseless

  • @ltx383
    @ltx383 3 місяці тому +3

    Everyone crying about this interview like it’s something different. Stop watching the content if you don’t like the man, his content, his guest and his get down. The typical “Adam is the police” yet you watch all his content like a nosy auntie.

  • @allanwatts8361
    @allanwatts8361 3 місяці тому +2

    This guy helped millions of black youth...saved lives..offing pop smoke stopped him from spreading his music which is a terrible influence and cause of criminal activity

    • @dragonxz61
      @dragonxz61 2 місяці тому

      That's a joke bro, Pop smoke rapped about shooting people and killing people and doing time. It's the life he chose I don't feel much remorse for people who promote killing, honestly its not surprising Pop was popped.

  • @giotorres8669
    @giotorres8669 3 місяці тому +1

    NOTHING GONNA HAPPENS CALI IS SOFT
    THIS IS A CERTIFIED GANGSTER INTERVIEW

  • @TylerMadison711
    @TylerMadison711 3 місяці тому

    How do you get it where u just cant see no jumper content on your UA-cam app?

  • @Javarrol
    @Javarrol 2 місяці тому

    This a timeline for someone’s safety watch

  • @dillan1875
    @dillan1875 3 місяці тому +5

    Seem like a lost child that made temporary mistake but I feel he shoulda just kept quiet and let his face card die down

    • @torypage2129
      @torypage2129 3 місяці тому

      Yeah this is not the move

    • @dragonxz61
      @dragonxz61 2 місяці тому

      He got off too easily and didn't learn from his time in prison now he's putting it out there that he doesn't feel remorseful. Not a smart idea for a multitude of reasons.

    • @mykeynotyours8724
      @mykeynotyours8724 2 місяці тому

      ​@@dragonxz61I don't think he's not remorseful based on what I just watched... You want him to start crying on the pod or something?
      That being said, someone should've told him not to go on a press run after robbing and killing a public figure. It's not a good look, at all.

  • @GhostFace8
    @GhostFace8 21 день тому

    This is terrible. Dude should be locked up

  • @willthebestbest9667
    @willthebestbest9667 2 місяці тому

    In Saudi Arabia he would have been executed in the public right after prayer! This is sad not to have any remorse! But why would you kill a brother for absolutely no reason except envy?