Stefan Borson & Simon Jordan STRESS The 'MONUMENTAL' Impact If Man City Triumph Over The PL AGAIN! 😳

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  • Man City have claimed a major victory over the Premier League after rules regarding commercial deals were deemed to be unlawful. talkSPORT's Jim White and Simon Jordan discuss alongside Stefan Borson.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 379

  • @BlueMumbaikar
    @BlueMumbaikar 3 дні тому +7

    The fabulous thing is that this hurts all other clubs. No more interest free owner loans. Reap what you sow Arsenal.

  • @man.q
    @man.q 4 дні тому +62

    Now we know the Red Cartel is real, everyone accepts that; Liverpool vs Man utd rivalry was BS all these years 🤷🏿

    • @nostradamus986
      @nostradamus986 3 дні тому

      They triumphed on a few aspects but the main was one was rejected by the independent panel inflating sponsorships from in house companies 😂

    • @natmol1595
      @natmol1595 3 дні тому

      @nostradamus186 YOU ARE A CLOWN WORLD FOOL !!!!
      Man City will sue the Prem for loss of earnings 🤫
      Making 'rules' that are against international business competetive LAWS are disengenuous and ILLEGAL AND UNLAWFUL 🤫

    • @LordHighness
      @LordHighness 3 дні тому

      This is such an idiotic and illogical take. So if Real Madrid and Barcelona both side against a super league then that means their rivalry on the pitch for the last few years has also been fake? Just because teams like Liverpool and Man Utd among many others don't want to see English football get completely ruined and taken over by nation states who are obviously far richer than any other normal club owner doesn't change the rivalry ON THE PITCH. Your thinking is so binary and limited it's embarrassing and you are literally supporting the destruction of football as we know it. What you're cheering on is horrendous.

    • @nostradamus986
      @nostradamus986 3 дні тому +3

      @man.q I think you only began watching football 15 years ago at best

    • @Redballoon99
      @Redballoon99 3 дні тому +2

      CITY LOST, ATP will continue
      23 of 25 lost by city, 23 of 25 won by the prem. read the report, and the only unlawful aspect was that ATP allowed interest free loans to yourself. so not only will ATP stay it will actually become more strict thanks to this case. Hope that helps.

  • @audaciousego6653
    @audaciousego6653 4 дні тому +78

    The premier league clearly don't know what they are doing. They started a fire they cannot control, brining politics to football with the 115 charges was their biggest mistake ever, even City announced that they will settle this ones and for all. it's a shame.
    My view is the premier league will be embarrassed so badly here

    • @86Brasco
      @86Brasco 4 дні тому +2

      Tainted FC. Tainted Titles. Relegation looms. Man Cheaty

    • @hughfawcett4333
      @hughfawcett4333 4 дні тому

      The PL is arguably more damaged if the PL win the 115 than if they lose it.

    • @killahreid
      @killahreid 4 дні тому +1

      @@86Brasco they wont relegate them. it would be a punishment to the EFL and smoke all the teams there. the only thing can be done is fine, trans ban and point deduction. they wont remove haaland from the prem he is the best striker right now.

    • @Alloyd876
      @Alloyd876 4 дні тому +2

      They should've simply charged city under football terms and stripped them of whatever n moved on. Now u risk the destruction of the entire league because of 1 cheating team

    • @86Brasco
      @86Brasco 4 дні тому

      @hughfawcett4333 Sure if the Prem win vs the 115 there's an argument to say English clubs get a European ban.

  • @johndutton8728
    @johndutton8728 4 дні тому +43

    Simon Jordan was the biggest gob stirring this up 12 months ago. Started changing his tune now. 😂

    • @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings
      @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings 4 дні тому +5

      ▪︎Radio like Talksport
      ▪︎Media like Sky Sports
      ▪︎Influencers like Goldbridge
      ▪︎Who called City cheats without proof
      ▪︎Mustn't be tried by Courts?😂

    • @nostradamus986
      @nostradamus986 3 дні тому

      ​@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeingsfun fact: man city substantially less popular than spurs in Britain with a substantially smaller UK fanbase than West ham! Fact 2 man city only has a 5% loyal British social media following? The other 95% plastic shipjumpers that live nowhere within 2000 miles away from Manchester! More facts to come!

    • @natmol1595
      @natmol1595 3 дні тому

      Chat bot fool !

    • @anthonyhobbs1171
      @anthonyhobbs1171 3 дні тому +1

      Eddie Hearn rattled him that’s why

  • @cosmicbaggy9637
    @cosmicbaggy9637 4 дні тому +20

    The EPL asked for this, city did warn them...

    • @gillie-monger3394
      @gillie-monger3394 4 дні тому +3

      Very early days yet and the serious charges are yet to be fought.

    • @natmol1595
      @natmol1595 3 дні тому +1

      What charges ? 🐑

    • @nostradamus986
      @nostradamus986 3 дні тому +1

      @@natmol1595 130 to be precise

    • @aidgan789
      @aidgan789 3 дні тому

      Stop being a sheep ​@@nostradamus986

    • @cosmicbaggy9637
      @cosmicbaggy9637 День тому +1

      @@gillie-monger3394 do you really think the EPL is competent enough to prove any guilt? Doubt it. If anything the EPL are going to come out of this looking very foolish.

  • @robbie4084
    @robbie4084 4 дні тому +23

    Simon is right, it should be about what's right for the lesgue

    • @brianshockledge3241
      @brianshockledge3241 4 дні тому +8

      Exactly, the fact that the American owned clubs are pulling the premier league strings needs to be sorted asap.

    • @stanh8071
      @stanh8071 4 дні тому +2

      Still got to be legal. Not UNLAWFUL

    • @matthewadshead8160
      @matthewadshead8160 4 дні тому

      ​@@brianshockledge3241exactly

    • @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings
      @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings 4 дні тому +1

      ▪︎If PL 115 Accusations proved
      ▪︎City to be Relegated
      ▪︎If PL 115 Accusations proved
      ▪︎Nothing to happen,PL to get away?😂

  • @jonfoden6025
    @jonfoden6025 4 дні тому +38

    Completely agree with Simon ...
    At end of day , United in 90 s were winning everything... Spending what they liked because they had the money, no regulations ....
    City haven't spent big for years ... They've made more last 5 years than spent ... Come on ...
    They have an amazing team, amazing manager and a great successful tactical way of playing... Exactly what United had .

    • @gunnergamer614
      @gunnergamer614 4 дні тому +7

      I think the problem is.... Yes in last 5 years they havnt spent mega money. Its the foundations they layed from 09-18. While other clubs were sticking to psr rules they had unfair income building mega team. Its not about last 5 years

    • @HareKrsna1
      @HareKrsna1 4 дні тому +2

      @@gunnergamer614 yes exactly - stick to the rules and play within those rules.
      If United stuck within the rules whilst playing in the 90's good luck to them
      Did city stick within the rules over the last 10 years ?

    • @jonfoden6025
      @jonfoden6025 4 дні тому +3

      Yeah they did spend a lot in those years, they were building a mega team and a foundation to make that spend a one period only ... They were clear on this giving the PL a ten year plan . Every club coming up to compete has to have an initial outlay , if it's built in a sustainable way, which clearly the last 5 years at city have proved it is ... Little spend and lots of success and always hitting FP rules ...
      Then what's the problem, are the rules to keep the same clubs at the top ? Or to help struggling teams like city were ?
      Or is it different because it's City. .
      Newcastle etc,
      It's not a boys club ...
      Any arguments against city are in reality an argument for keeping the same clubs at the top...
      PL and fans need to see that most PL clubs are or will be owned by very rich owners because it's the most watched league in the world,
      What's the problem with building if it's sustainable?
      If City were in loads of debt or over spending every year then yes I'd completely agree ...
      But they aren't, they built and are now sustainable within the fair play rules , really silly to argue against that I think...

    • @David-zl9qw
      @David-zl9qw 4 дні тому

      ​@@gunnergamer614JEALOUS BUM LOSER.

    • @David-zl9qw
      @David-zl9qw 4 дні тому +2

      ​@@gunnergamer614You think the problem is hahahaha lets see how much Arsenal have spent in ten years time amd how many trophies they have eh you jealous bum fans make me chuckle 😂

  • @geraldinehyacinthe6048
    @geraldinehyacinthe6048 4 дні тому +26

    It seems the premier league got the wrong lawyers to write up its rules..city seem to have better lawyers who are finding holes in the prem leagues rule book..as for buying the league no one complained when blackburn done it..fergie did it for years buying all his rivals best players..cole of newcastle,yorke of villa,rio of leeds 20 mil for a teenager of everton..if these owners wernt foriegn i dont think anyone would care..

    • @thelmaviaduct
      @thelmaviaduct 4 дні тому +1

      Simpleton type thinking process 🤪

    • @brandonflood5850
      @brandonflood5850 4 дні тому

      PL lawyers get a few months to write the rules when they are added or changed. Then teams get an unlimited amount of time to look for loopholes or imprecise wording that can sway a couple judges.

    • @HareKrsna1
      @HareKrsna1 4 дні тому +2

      It's about sticking in the rules. Did fergie break the rules when he was buying all his rivals best players ? Have city broken the rules in the last 10 years ? The jealousy against other teams who earned their success is real.

    • @Fergz2049
      @Fergz2049 3 дні тому

      Rio was more than £20 mill.

    • @ddha0000
      @ddha0000 3 дні тому

      or they just have paid off the judges

  • @Loganwolfen
    @Loganwolfen 4 дні тому +10

    Simon Jordan says it shouldn't be about winning or losing, then 20 seconds later he says 'are we winning, is the PL winning'

    • @jcumbes
      @jcumbes 4 дні тому +3

      Completely different context between the two 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @gillie-monger3394
      @gillie-monger3394 4 дні тому +1

      You've completely missed the point. He means the fight between City and the PL and it's effect on the optics of the best League in Europe. In other words, all this in-fighting will have a detrimental effect on the PL as a whole - and is that the "winning" look we want?

    • @nostradamus986
      @nostradamus986 3 дні тому +1

      Well the main one was blocked inflating sponsors from in house companies that one will hurt city as they did that for over a decade hence part of the 115 charges.

    • @nostradamus986
      @nostradamus986 3 дні тому

      ​@@gillie-monger3394PL let city get away with it for way too long? Man city got extremely comfortable? Both parties need to kiss and make up😂

  • @mikewhoelse
    @mikewhoelse 3 дні тому +3

    Whats the difference between an interest free loan you never pay back and a sponcership deal for the same amount??? Think the lawyers are right on this on Simon.

  • @angiegraham2579
    @angiegraham2579 3 дні тому +3

    The PL was proved more than once to have acted Unreasonably, Unlawfully and Illegally but City challenging them and winning is seen as wrong and out of order. The PL are not acting in the best interests of all when they make rules that adversely affect those who challenge the old order of the red cartel.

  • @janlievens6964
    @janlievens6964 4 дні тому +3

    Cliff added that it was "not correct that the tribunal’s decision identifies 'certain discrete elements' of the APT rules that need to be amended in order to comply with competition and public law requirements".
    He added: "On the contrary: the APT rules... have been found to be unlawful, as a matter of competition law and public law. This means that they are void and not capable of enforcement. This has very significant consequences for APTs that have been entered into to date and APTs that are currently being negotiated by clubs.
    So as the are void we can now get sponsorship in for as much as we like as there are NO RULES full stop just go and get it before the PL start again screwing us up

  • @hughfawcett4333
    @hughfawcett4333 4 дні тому +14

    City were the only club voting FOR an independent regulator. I wonder why the 19 don't want one?

    • @gillie-monger3394
      @gillie-monger3394 4 дні тому +3

      Because City are riding success based on cheating. A regulator will largely close down such practices, so denying other clubs from 'copying' and catching up.

    • @therealtaggart4021
      @therealtaggart4021 4 дні тому +3

      18 ya mean.. Newcastle were probably not informed of that meeting 🙄

    • @stekam79
      @stekam79 4 дні тому +4

      ​@@gillie-monger3394explain how city have cheated 😂Mr UA-cam lawyer

    • @kaijukarnival
      @kaijukarnival 3 дні тому

      Because they know it can't happen due to UEFA rules. Same UEFA who found them guilty of 50odd charges

    • @kaijukarnival
      @kaijukarnival 3 дні тому

      ​​@@stekam79you might want to look UEFA vs City. You know where city lost every charge but dragged it out so long UEFA were time barred... Fifty odd charges. Add more charges for non compliance of evidence etc.
      Simple stuff

  • @BasherBrown
    @BasherBrown 4 дні тому +8

    Jordan changing his tune now he knows he’s slandered City and WHEN they are found innocent they will be coming after him and the others

    • @linimcfc715
      @linimcfc715 4 дні тому +2

      Hope so

    • @natmol1595
      @natmol1595 3 дні тому +1

      Man City ARE the GREATEST team in the HISTORY of English football 💙💙💙💙🤫
      CTID since 1978

    • @hustler666100
      @hustler666100 3 дні тому

      lmao slander. Learn terms before using them

    • @hustler666100
      @hustler666100 3 дні тому

      @@natmol1595 lol not even top 10

    • @Metali-tin
      @Metali-tin 2 дні тому

      @@hustler666100 'lol not even'... worth anyone listening to, clueless manchild.

  • @sammys3269
    @sammys3269 4 дні тому +11

    GOAT BORSON 💙🐐💙

  • @kevmoss5483
    @kevmoss5483 4 дні тому +8

    It only takes 2 clubs to be bought by u.s.a owners and the league is knacked as they will franchise it also change all the rules.

  • @neilfinnigan9825
    @neilfinnigan9825 4 дні тому +8

    0 % owner loans have been highlighted so that's Arsenal next 🎉🎉🎉🎉 that'll teach you for FFP letter in 00s !!! Arsenal real cheats and we all hate ur number 1 fan who's been pushing this dross ! 😂

  • @alanhenwood5315
    @alanhenwood5315 4 дні тому +4

    Totally the league’s fault for allowing a cartel !!

    • @dalebrennan7615
      @dalebrennan7615 4 дні тому +1

      Yea the red caryel had ots own way for years but now they dont like it ehens its fliped around

    • @nostradamus986
      @nostradamus986 3 дні тому

      @@dalebrennan7615 City is the biggest mob her but will be brought down come January

  • @JB2AMBang
    @JB2AMBang 4 дні тому +2

    can the left guy stop cutting the right guy talking for god sake

  • @archivalhorror
    @archivalhorror 4 дні тому +4

    "What is that we think we're fixing?"
    Keeping Newcastle from competing to keep the Cartel happy.
    That's what all of this is about.

    • @kaijukarnival
      @kaijukarnival 3 дні тому

      This started ten years before Newcastle were bought by Arabs you clown.

    • @Redballoon99
      @Redballoon99 3 дні тому

      making sure clubs only compete on merit,

    • @mikem9309
      @mikem9309 3 дні тому

      @@Redballoon99that would be the ideal, but that ship sailed long ago

    • @Redballoon99
      @Redballoon99 3 дні тому

      @@mikem9309 not really all clubs not names Man City do. and city will be punished

    • @Legoheadedspaniard
      @Legoheadedspaniard 3 дні тому

      @@Redballoon99you are a balloon😂 the hate just grows inside you and your little brain can’t handle it,please don’t take your own life one day that fragile state of mind will kill you🤷‍♂️

  • @liberalslayer7220
    @liberalslayer7220 4 дні тому +5

    The premier league has only won the case’s when the club has pleaded guilty to the charge.

  • @peptalk7658
    @peptalk7658 4 дні тому +5

    I have a poster of Lord Pannick in my office. He is a Legal Legand!

  • @steveoram1
    @steveoram1 3 дні тому

    There is zero chance that 600 million people are watching a Wednesday night game between Everton & Wolves. 6 million would be ambitious.

  • @therealtaggart4021
    @therealtaggart4021 4 дні тому +2

    City won simple as that and helped other clubs such as Newcastle to finish the EPL off.. Time for PIF to get their lawyers on the job... Can't wait !!!

    • @kaijukarnival
      @kaijukarnival 3 дні тому

      The city 115 charges case started under UEFA when Pardew was managing Newcastle. And city lost that too.

    • @geordiesatstjamess
      @geordiesatstjamess 3 дні тому

      Pif will sue the Premiership due to what's come out,,,,

  • @themadmoderator8465
    @themadmoderator8465 4 дні тому +1

    time for the pl call a vote agree all rules or disolve end of the saga

  • @jamesmilligan2797
    @jamesmilligan2797 3 дні тому +1

    We DO NOT enjoy this financial, business side Stef

  • @CTRLALTNUKE
    @CTRLALTNUKE 3 дні тому

    Most of Prems case is based on random oht of context emails stolen by a hacker (who got sent down). And requests for accounts when it wasnt neccasary to give them. 90% of the charges will be dropped

  • @philipmartin4522
    @philipmartin4522 3 дні тому

    Football has turned into a circus. Why can't they just leave our game alone?

  • @stacksflat7482
    @stacksflat7482 4 дні тому +4

    People saying the premier league don’t know what they are doing when it clearly involved lots of back handers 🤣

  • @carlosgk1
    @carlosgk1 4 дні тому +5

    this is why you don’t let a country buy a club!!!

  • @ny4471
    @ny4471 4 дні тому +1

    you cant regulate across all borders and that's what owns most of our clubs now. if the PL win it guarantees the European League in next 5 years. The EPL was a break away, and this is giving the greedy top 8 clubs all the excuse they need to take more revenue. Imagine a European league that replaces the UEFA and Champs League where 16 - 20 clubs play each other and set their own TV deals a new. Worst thought out legal challenge in history predicated on the assumption that the clubs need the EPL, La liga etc more than they need the clubs. Theres a rich Saudi sat somewhere ready to LIV Golf football and we are walking into that trap

  • @jaypenfold490
    @jaypenfold490 4 дні тому +1

    If the premier league loose these cases then nearly every Premier league club will get middle eastern owners to try and buy their way to trophies then the rest of Europe will complain to fifa 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @bosenngantor9160
      @bosenngantor9160 3 дні тому +1

      it's not really the case, even after city won the APT case, that doesn't mean APT is failed, the APT is stays there but the detail is changed and amendment. If City won the 115 case, it's nota like every PL team will bought by middle eastern, it's just too naive, the ppl in PL is just not competent enough to make the framework of the rule, poorly written blablabla like in leicester case, it's such an amateur mistake by PL as a regulator, very very dumb I'd say.

  • @peterpapas9250
    @peterpapas9250 3 дні тому

    End of the premier league they should split into two leagues and go their separate ways 😂

  • @thecountofmontecristo8280
    @thecountofmontecristo8280 3 дні тому

    At any stage the Premier League can just disband and start a new competition with the rules the way they want them. The 16 clubs who support the Premier League against Man City join and the rest really have no choice, otherwise they are left languishing in no mans land. It's not ideal, but it can be done if they have the support of the ruling majority.

  • @ruddock7
    @ruddock7 3 дні тому

    I like SJ and agree with a lot of the things he says but good lord let guests finish what they are saying without interrupting man!!!

  • @2010LeeG
    @2010LeeG 3 дні тому

    Rules were brought in to protect the money spinners at the time, I hope it backfires massively as it will have been purely down to greed. Seems to be happening in all walks of lives these days.

  • @neilsonmartin23
    @neilsonmartin23 3 дні тому

    I hope the EPL wins at least 1 charge. Because they are going to look really bad if they loose at least 50% of those charges.

  • @SophiaSmith24
    @SophiaSmith24 4 дні тому

    Always thought Kieran McQuire was meant to be best in the business

  • @Chegmeister89
    @Chegmeister89 4 дні тому +4

    Please win City 🙏🙏🙏

  • @dialsquare1817
    @dialsquare1817 3 дні тому

    Unfortunately, this battle will be won elsewhere !!

  • @saurabhahlawat425
    @saurabhahlawat425 4 дні тому +7

    No matter what the judgment is on the 115 charges, we all have seen the leaks. Man city can never sport wash this reputational damage that is forever etched on football lovers' minds.

    • @papsphaks4408
      @papsphaks4408 4 дні тому +7

      No it's not.

    • @wakandaworld9861
      @wakandaworld9861 4 дні тому +3

      We don't care as long as man city wins that is what I care about

    • @bluemoon1716
      @bluemoon1716 4 дні тому

      The leaks that came from a hacker known to tamper with evidence and blackmail people. Emails that showed signs of being edited?

    • @_Kid_Buu_
      @_Kid_Buu_ 4 дні тому +5

      Doesnt work like that, if the premier league bring man city to court and lose, then legally the 115 was a total waste of time and man city will be proven innocent. If fans want to carry on shouting about 115 due to jealousy then they'll look desperate more than anything.

    • @saurabhahlawat425
      @saurabhahlawat425 4 дні тому

      @@_Kid_Buu_ when the leaks are as crystal clear as they are, and the only reason man City won last time was because statute of limitations and inability to prove that this actually happened based on cash flow statements, then it doesn't matter if it gets proven in court or not. In the public eye, there's already enough evidence.

  • @justsomeguy101b
    @justsomeguy101b 3 дні тому

    It’s the red cartel because they are all American owned! If they had owners from different countries or backgrounds then they all would have different interests.

  • @paulroughly8650
    @paulroughly8650 4 дні тому +11

    Simon Jordan is so anti City he stinks the place out with his bias.

    • @kaijukarnival
      @kaijukarnival 3 дні тому +1

      City fans are glory supporters who couldn't find man city stadium on a map of greater Manchester

    • @aidgan789
      @aidgan789 3 дні тому

      ​@@kaijukarnivalYou must thick

  • @mishaalmoosabagas5210
    @mishaalmoosabagas5210 4 дні тому +3

    Pl opened a can of worms that they should have just left things. They now cannot backtrack. They should have just given city a hefty fine... instead they want to take city on... citys lawyers are earning 700k a week

    • @gillie-monger3394
      @gillie-monger3394 4 дні тому

      And what precisely does a "hefty fine" look like to the richest owners on the planet? Precisely. No amount is hefty to them. Only a points / relegation punishment can 'hurt' such owners. And to do that means going down the legal route. As for earnings of lawyers you're way off and anyway, both sets of protagonists will be hiring so called top lawyers who'll be on about the same scam.

    • @kaijukarnival
      @kaijukarnival 3 дні тому

      The 115 charges case is completely different.
      There's over thirty charges saying they never responded to evidence requests... City will lose that. City lost vs UEFA too

  • @Redballoon99
    @Redballoon99 3 дні тому

    CITY LOST, ATP will continue
    23 of 25 lost by city, 23 of 25 won by the prem. read the report, and the only unlawful aspect was that ATP allowed interest free loans to yourself. so not only will ATP stay it will actually become more strict thanks to this case. Hope that helps.

  • @86Brasco
    @86Brasco 4 дні тому +4

    Citys PR guy incoming.

  • @johngarland252
    @johngarland252 4 дні тому +9

    Stefan borson talks like a PR agent of man city

  • @tomthefootballcoach1365
    @tomthefootballcoach1365 3 дні тому

    The investment bubble in the league needs to burst. A reduction in investment could provide an opportunity for lower-tier players and academies to compete at higher levels. Non-league football in England is more popular than ever, and the domestic pyramid will continue to flourish with or without external investment.
    Football thrived over the last decade because it allowed for the rise of star players and excitement. It’s a sport meant to be played with freedom, not dictated by financial constraints.

  • @MrATate-bz1it
    @MrATate-bz1it 3 дні тому

    Jordon should shut up a bit

  • @markkennedy4936
    @markkennedy4936 3 дні тому

    Simon finds it difficult to move on with the story..his face is eating itself

  • @NS-zi4fb
    @NS-zi4fb 4 дні тому

    Are the premier league which is actually the clubs and the top clubs seem to run the show just inadvertently trying to break the premier league because they actually want the super league. After the fan response it wouldn’t surprise if they work it so they can turn around and say the premier league isn’t fit for purpose anymore. Makes me wonder why they are going into self harm.

    • @therealtaggart4021
      @therealtaggart4021 4 дні тому

      The super league was an ultimatum to the premier league by the cartel to say you play ball or we will leave.. Isn't it now obvious ?

  • @stevom7609
    @stevom7609 2 дні тому

    Call it man city league we may as well end football

  • @saurabhahlawat425
    @saurabhahlawat425 4 дні тому +9

    Lost a few brain cells listening to that. Debating that the Premier League is in danger is ridiculous.

    • @leighhudson9279
      @leighhudson9279 4 дні тому +8

      Why? What level of insight do you have over these two well informed individuals that you haven't shared? I think they are dead right. The league is at the top of a slippery slope… ask Serie A… but this time, the powers that be in the clubs have much more invested and will just look to take their clubs elsewhere which is sad but inevitable because of the internal greed of the cartel clubs

    • @Zeppelin180
      @Zeppelin180 4 дні тому +1

      @@leighhudson9279”Cartel clubs”? Did you come up with that all by yourself or did you speak to a 12 year old?? 😂😂

    • @saurabhahlawat425
      @saurabhahlawat425 4 дні тому

      @@leighhudson9279 my level of information is the fact that it is the most followed league in the world, fans are crazy about it + other content like fan channels and fantasy premier league have made it part of everyone's daily content engagement. That's not going to be replaced coz of some court case.

    • @leighhudson9279
      @leighhudson9279 4 дні тому

      @@saurabhahlawat425 amazing 🤣

    • @leighhudson9279
      @leighhudson9279 4 дні тому

      @@Zeppelin180 its a fairly well used description of the historically most dominant clubs. Even Simon Jordan used that description in this video 🤣 someone hasn't been listening!

  • @johnwalters4792
    @johnwalters4792 3 дні тому

    Will see the Prem go 💥

  • @lfcspectre4335
    @lfcspectre4335 4 дні тому +1

    Sir Lordship Jordanite = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts

  • @BlueGorilla111
    @BlueGorilla111 3 дні тому

    Wow Simon now Stephans biggest cheerleader 😂agreeing on everything Stephan said and hanging on every statement noted.The sarcastic comments from Simon have now dried up.

  • @liamjones9115
    @liamjones9115 4 дні тому +36

    Stefan Borson seems reluctant to explain the 'wins' are wholly different to the 115 charges. Why Talksport insists on having a Man City mouth piece on is anathema.

    • @environm3ntalist549
      @environm3ntalist549 4 дні тому +24

      They are indirectly related in so far as City now have even more evidence that the EPL have discriminated against them specifically, can’t draw up legally sound rules and can’t implement them correctly. What do you think the city lawyers will do now when discussing the rules drawn up by the EpL that they have charged City against?

    • @liamjones9115
      @liamjones9115 4 дні тому +4

      @@environm3ntalist549 No, They are completely separate. Please do some more reading as to the case.

    • @environm3ntalist549
      @environm3ntalist549 4 дні тому +16

      @@liamjones9115 you clearly did not read nor comprehend what I said

    • @liamjones9115
      @liamjones9115 4 дні тому +2

      @@environm3ntalist549 No, I did

    • @DontwatchB
      @DontwatchB 4 дні тому

      Geniuses in the comments as usual. Prem tried to fix the rules to protect the 'big 6' they've gone too far. And it's been deemed illegal. Toon on the rise.

  • @MrATate-bz1it
    @MrATate-bz1it 3 дні тому

    Is it time for Jordon to leave talk sport he gets on my nerves

  • @AA-qi2ib
    @AA-qi2ib 3 дні тому

    This is Man City vs the other 19 cubs, unfortunately there are some clubs like Chelsea and Newcastle which are too dumb to realise the wider ramifications of siding with City. Long term only City win and we become Ligue 1 or Bundesliga.

  • @y2k42y2k42
    @y2k42y2k42 4 дні тому +6

    The Main thing in the judgement yesterday was that the APT in its current form is "UNLAWFUL" 😂

    • @kaijukarnival
      @kaijukarnival 3 дні тому

      What the two small wins of unrelated aspects vs the majority of city's complaints were thrown out.

    • @david6532
      @david6532 3 дні тому

      correct well noticed.

    • @y2k42y2k42
      @y2k42y2k42 3 дні тому

      @kaijukarnival you clearly don't know how the legal system works, City main argument wasn't APT itself as they voted for it in 2021. They rejected the new amended rules 5 days after Newcastle take over which they proved are "Unlawful" they also managed to prove that share holders loans should also be FMV & part of the APT rules , proved that the league broke it own rules when dealing with 2 of City sponsors, proved that the league was abusing their position of power. That's more than 2 if you can count 🤡

  • @rossnour7251
    @rossnour7251 4 дні тому +1

    Jim White "are we going to be looking at a super league". 😅😂🤣
    The day English FA said yes to a Russian oligarch!!!🤯 EPL became thee Super league mate.
    Everything after that took english football as far away from actual football as possible.
    The rest of the planet has a saying about the English "They are so far behind, they actually think they are leading".
    1966 being the one and only time England has won anything is a point to the contrary 🤦

    • @gillie-monger3394
      @gillie-monger3394 4 дні тому

      Have you finished picking those sour grapes yet mate?

    • @rossnour7251
      @rossnour7251 4 дні тому

      @@gillie-monger3394 sour grapes are used in many many countries and cultures for many dishes,snacks and even healing and beauty mechanisms. But of course the English use it for a stupid pitiful banter of a terminology, behind once again. Go Brexit right😅🤣🤦

    • @gillie-monger3394
      @gillie-monger3394 4 дні тому

      @@rossnour7251 You know a lot about sour grapes - an insult that has it's origins from the French wine industry btw. So much for your whitty criticism. Carry on believing the saintliness of mainland Euro leagues, if you must keep your head buried in the sand.

    • @rossnour7251
      @rossnour7251 4 дні тому

      @@gillie-monger3394 uhhh buried in the sand, no mate, I watch la Liga where two teams have more champions league trophies than the entire EPL, I watch German league were the fans enjoy and appreciate football instead of showing up booing and protesting their own players and coaches .
      If that's the sand then I am the sand man .
      PS the French retired that saying in the 90s.
      Staying behind once again I see .

  • @sambagogo777
    @sambagogo777 3 дні тому

    I wonder if we're now witnessing the beginning of the end for the Premier League and the eventual switch to a European 'super' league. A scenario is unfolding whereby clubs will be gradually losing faith in the competence of those running the Premier League. The clubs who sided with the Premier League against Man City included some of those previously wanting a European Super League so if they still want that then it will be in their best long-term interest for Man City to win the 115 charges case so to further decimate the credibility of the Premier League.

  • @Redballoon99
    @Redballoon99 3 дні тому

    CAS found city GUILTY
    the situation will go away when CITY are relegated.

  • @Lowkey_AFC
    @Lowkey_AFC 3 дні тому

    Salty fan bases especially Arsenal coming to a realisation that city are actually gonna win this case because they didn’t actually do anything illegal, this was just all hope and wishful thinking from rivals wanting city to be convicted so they minimise pep’s achievements, pathetic instead of being greatful the guys literally changed world football and especially English football he’s improved the way the games being played and your just all salty because you can’t beat him, well how about not bottling 8 point leads and handing him the title maybe just maybe we would of beating instead you all wanna blame him for winning.

  • @nickwills1815
    @nickwills1815 4 дні тому +1

    Tin canning man city mouth piece

  • @bjorn2970
    @bjorn2970 4 дні тому

    I wonder if Stefan and Simon pop out for a cheeky little cuddle after the show?

  • @adrak91
    @adrak91 3 дні тому

    goodbye ffp then

  • @ma466
    @ma466 4 дні тому

    All i can say PL is not prepared well at all that Proved both Lesicester and MC PSR case. They only can come after teams that put hands down to begin with. I doubt PL would score any big wins against City for 115 charges.

    • @kaijukarnival
      @kaijukarnival 3 дні тому

      If only City had been to court previously for most of the same charges and lost but due to time restrictions couldn't be punished.

  • @egrant3351
    @egrant3351 4 дні тому +2

    You people are talking nonsense. The premier league is the 20 clubs including city. So you can't blame the premier league you have to blame the clubs. The clubs are the ones that are tearing the premier league up. We are getting tired of this cr*p. You don't get this nonsense in la liga and seria A where the clubs are taking the league to arbitration every time there is an new rules implimented

    • @Lagz123
      @Lagz123 4 дні тому +9

      “You don’t get this at la logs and seria A”😭😭what. La liga and their clubs have been DIRECTLY raided and seen as corrupt. Seria A in the mid 2000s was disgusting

    • @hughfawcett4333
      @hughfawcett4333 4 дні тому

      Yep. Reality is it's a battle between huge global corporates who will all end up damaging their own businesses

    • @gillie-monger3394
      @gillie-monger3394 4 дні тому

      You're talking out your backside mate. la Liga and Serie A are the worst run and most criminally corrupt leagues in Europe! 😅🤣

  • @stephentomlinson1970
    @stephentomlinson1970 4 дні тому +1

    Everyone knows city will get away with it and if you watch Stefan careful discuss the issues whilst navigating the minefields . He knows what the outcome will be.

    • @ninjamonk3y1987
      @ninjamonk3y1987 4 дні тому

      They won't get away with anything you clown. It's the biggest legal case on the planet, you've got the worlds eyes on it and the very best independent regulators ruling on it.
      They're either guilty and will suffer the punishment for very serious allegations or they're innocent and the premier league are proven once again to have acted in a discriminatory manner. There's no "getting away with it"

    • @kaijukarnival
      @kaijukarnival 3 дні тому

      They won't. Stefan is a city employee lmao.
      Look him up.

    • @ninjamonk3y1987
      @ninjamonk3y1987 3 дні тому

      @kaijukarnival before telling people to do research, at least do the most basic research yourself. He is not a city employee at all. I cannot begin to explain how stupid you'd have to be to actually believe a city employee would be legally allowed to talk openly about these matters.

    • @bosenngantor9160
      @bosenngantor9160 3 дні тому

      @@kaijukarnival he was...not he is, MF

    • @bosenngantor9160
      @bosenngantor9160 3 дні тому

      @@kaijukarnival and it was already more than 10 years ago...

  • @buzzpo3815
    @buzzpo3815 3 дні тому

    Borson is a batty boy!

  • @3mobcom
    @3mobcom 3 дні тому

    Did we not get to the 115 charges because Man City were unwilling to cooperate with the league. Not sure whag Stefan says when he says the league should have sat down with City when City clearly believe the rules do npt apply to them

    • @david6532
      @david6532 3 дні тому

      if you are ever arrested, never help the cops to prosecute you

  • @jackiewelsford9049
    @jackiewelsford9049 4 дні тому +1

    Games gone

  • @peterpapas9250
    @peterpapas9250 3 дні тому

    The English league is finished as money is now the only way clubs win things this with the biggest commercial revenues and sponsorships win let’s face it the days when villa and forest won the champions league are gone it’s now who has the biggest balance sheet

  • @blueshadow62
    @blueshadow62 4 дні тому +8

    City 🌃 Won 🏆
    Where r all the jealous haters now huh 🤔⁉️ Rats 🐀‼️😆😂🤣

    • @theknightofdoom260
      @theknightofdoom260 4 дні тому +1

      That's all it is....If we were 14th worst start to a season for a while no one would have brought any charges but seeing our club has invested in the area and the club so well and we are winning.....

  • @paulroughly8650
    @paulroughly8650 4 дні тому

    How come 7 of the 8 teams against City have Jewish connections and their is no racism towards City who are Muslim.

  • @deppresedonion6320
    @deppresedonion6320 4 дні тому

    Im saying with months if City win this watch how fast the super gets started and there wont be no protests this time . The clubs will argue to the fans how can we stay in a leauge that protects clubs that dont care about the rules .

    • @ninjamonk3y1987
      @ninjamonk3y1987 4 дні тому +1

      If city win, they win because it's proven they haven't broken any rules. There's no other way city "win" Use some common sense.

  • @Haakonisak
    @Haakonisak 4 дні тому +1

    I don't get why talkSPORT are using that Manchester City guy as expert in this case. About time they start to use Everton and Forests people as experts in cases cocerning them, fair is fair.

    • @hughfawcett4333
      @hughfawcett4333 4 дні тому +2

      He has done work for man city but not since the Abu Dhabi takeover so it's a long time ago

    • @GWJUK
      @GWJUK 4 дні тому +2

      Clueless statement, embarrassing

    • @ninjamonk3y1987
      @ninjamonk3y1987 4 дні тому +2

      He's not "Manchester city guy" he's a football finance lawyer who happened to do some work with man City under different ownership. He's equally equipped to talk about any teams finances. He speaks in facts and only offers opinions when pushed for one he has no agenda or allegiance.
      Quite frankly he's overqualified to be on talksport as their core audience are too dense to understand what he says.

    • @david6532
      @david6532 3 дні тому

      forest and everton lost ffs why use their mouth pieces

    • @GWJUK
      @GWJUK 3 дні тому +1

      @@ninjamonk3y1987 mate your dealing with bottom feeders who have no idea about business, law and the adult world unfortunately

  • @mustardegg2
    @mustardegg2 4 дні тому +7

    This guy should have to wear a city jersey when he is speaking, he is framing city as the victims and muddy the waters…. A disgusting creature.

    • @brianshockledge3241
      @brianshockledge3241 4 дні тому +12

      He`s a financial expert and talking facts you tit.

    • @gwmcd
      @gwmcd 4 дні тому

      Disgusting creature? He's a guy talking about finance and he happens to be a fan of the club. Calm down you nutter.

    • @mustardegg2
      @mustardegg2 4 дні тому +1

      @@brianshockledge3241 he said the premier league made a mistake by not sitting down with city and working out a deal….. that is opinion, his opinion

    • @brianshockledge3241
      @brianshockledge3241 4 дні тому

      @@mustardegg2 I know, unlike you I can take in facts. Like calling someone a disgusting creature because you dont agree with the expert is your deluded opinion.

    • @mustardegg2
      @mustardegg2 4 дні тому +1

      @@brianshockledge3241 You can’t even spell words correctly let alone “talk in facts”.

  • @Britishwisdom
    @Britishwisdom 3 дні тому

    All of these talkers and gossipers will be out of a job, and Jim white will have to go back to his beloved scoland where he doesent work, as these money hungry gossipers are money sucking vampires of premier league rivalry. Bye Jim, have fun with Cowdenbeath and the £200 a week.

  • @nawles1
    @nawles1 4 дні тому

    It's always been the case where the richest clubs get the most success. What's different this time?

  • @blueshadow62
    @blueshadow62 4 дні тому

    Super League that CITY 🌃 will Win 🏆 7 Times in a Row❕🙄😆😂🤣
    Losers‼️🥶

  • @natmol1595
    @natmol1595 3 дні тому

    You cannot mess with the international acumen of the sandy DONS 😂😂😂😂💙💙💙💙
    You lot have been told !!!!
    The red cartel is done !

  • @albertmcmullen2669
    @albertmcmullen2669 4 дні тому +1

    The premier league have been discriminatory, favouring the old guard, United, Arsenal and liverpool and their elk.

  • @riverwolf654
    @riverwolf654 4 дні тому

    If the Premier league win , then they have to really nail city to the wall.

    • @david6532
      @david6532 3 дні тому

      lol the prem are in for a hiding

    • @CTRLALTNUKE
      @CTRLALTNUKE 3 дні тому

      Yes because if guilty that is slander as fraud. City will break them up and tie them up in criminal court.

  • @Wardah-e2x
    @Wardah-e2x 4 дні тому +2

    انا اختك اليمنيه واعتبرني اختك والله ماتكلمت الا من جوع ومن ضيق الحال انا وكامل اسرتي تشردنا من بيوتنا بَسَبَبَ الَحَرَبَ نَحَنَ فَيَ حَالَهَ لَايَعَلَمَ بَهَا الَا الَلَهَ حَسَبَنَا الَلَهَ وًّنَعَمَ الَوكيَلَ فَيَ مَنَ اوًّصَلَنَا الَى هَاذا الَحَالَ وًّالَلَهَ الَعَظَيَمَ مَا كتَبَتَ هَذا الَمَنَاشَدَهَ غَيَرَ مَنَ الَضَيَقَ وّالَفَقَر يَاعَالَمَ حَسَوّا فَيَنَا ارَجَوّكمَ وّالَلَهَ الَعَظَيَمَ رَبَ الَعَرَشَ الَعَظَيَمَ انَه الَاكلَ مَا فَيَ عَنَدَيَ بَالَبَيَتَ وًّالَلَهَ يَا اخَوّانَيَ انَهَ اخَوًّنَيَ بَقَعَدَوًّ بَالَيَوًّمَيَنَ مَافَى اكلَ وًّالَلَهَ وًّضَعَنَا كثَيَرَ صَعَبَ نَحَنَ 4 نَفَرَ دَاخَلَ الَبَيَتَ وًّابَيَ مَتَوًّفَيَ وًّلَا يَوًّجَدَ مَنَ يَعَوًّلَ عَلَيَنَا وًّسَاكنَيَنَ فَيَ بَيَتَ اجَارَ لَانَسَتَطَيَعَ دَفَعَ الَاجَارَ الَلَيَ ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' اخي اول كلامي انا اقسم بالله على كتاب الله اني لااكذب عليك ولا انصب ولا احتال اني بنت يمنيه نازحين انا واسرتي بيننا ایت الشهرب 20 الف يمني والان علينا 60 الف حق 3 شهور وصاحب البيت من الناس الي ماترحم والله يا اخي انه يجي كل يوم يبهدلنا ويتكلم علينا ويريد من البيت للشارع لانناماقدرنا ندفعله الأجار شافونا الجيران نبكي ورجعو تكلمو الجيران ومهلنالاخره الأسبوع معادفعنا له حلف يمين بالله هذا بيخرجنا إلى الشارع رحمه واحنا. بلادنا بسبب هذا الحرب ولانجد قوت يومنا وعايشين اناوامي واخوتي سفار والدنا متوفي الله يرحمه ومامعنا أحد في هذا الدنيا جاانبنا في هذه الظروف القاسيه اخوتي الصغار خرجو للشارع وشافو الجيران ياكلو واوقفو عند بابهم لجل يعطوهم ولو كسره خبز والله الذي له ملك السموات والارض انهم غلفو الباب وطردوهم ورجعو یبکو ایموتو من الجوع ما احد رحمهم وعطلة ردها لقمت عیش والان لوما احدنا ساعدنا في إيكيلو دقيق اقسم بالله انموت من الجوع فيا اخي انا دخيله على الله ثم عليك واريد منك المساعده لوجه الله انشدك بالله تحب الخير واتساعدني ولو ب 500 ريال يمني مع تراسلي واتساب على هذا الرقم 00967711528949 وتطلب اسم بطاقتي وترسلي ولاتتاخر وايعوضك الله بكل خير اخواني سغار شوف كيف حالتهم وساعدنا وأنقذنا قبل أن يطردونا في الشارع تتبهدل أو نموت من الجوع وانا واسرتي نسالك بالله لولك مقدره على مساعد لاتتاخر علينا وجزاك الله خير..=¢_¢|_¢_¢_¢^¢_¢°.،.،،،،،

    • @jamiecummings9666
      @jamiecummings9666 4 дні тому

      Another white British post box. 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Piss off

    • @madeinengland9488
      @madeinengland9488 4 дні тому

      Wtf are you doing in Yemen? I’m telling mum!

    • @jamiecummings9666
      @jamiecummings9666 4 дні тому

      @@madeinengland9488 didn't no starmer was your mother

  • @Drunken_Horse
    @Drunken_Horse 4 дні тому +8

    The games finished if City beat the 115 charges. May as well start singing songs about your chairmans wallet if ut happens because the manager the players the youth system none of that matters when failure just means you open the chequebook until you buy more " success"

    • @environm3ntalist549
      @environm3ntalist549 4 дні тому +18

      Football has always been about clubs with more resources being able to beat clubs with less. You just don’t like the fact of who it is this time. I suspect you support one of Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal, I.e. the traditional big teams

    • @mattheworton836
      @mattheworton836 4 дні тому +8

      Oh no!
      Only the clubs who had millionaire owners in the past century can have success!!

    • @russellward4624
      @russellward4624 4 дні тому +3

      Why? Eveey club that's ever been successful has always "bought" thier success. Real are succesful because they spend more, a lot more than Villareal, etc.. same with Barca. Bayern won 12 of the last 13 league titles because thier wage bill is double thier closest rival and 32xs the bottom team. I can assure you City don't have anything like that. Not only is thier wage bill not double arsenals, it's not even the biggest most seasons. Utd, arsenal, Chelsea, City and lfc are all basically the same. What's the evidence that supports the claim City have done anything wrong?

    • @GermanChickenwing
      @GermanChickenwing 4 дні тому +1

      Wait a min, so City must be found guilty innocent or not to avoid the league being finished? Madness

    • @TonyODOnnell-tt8gh
      @TonyODOnnell-tt8gh 4 дні тому +3

      Because, when eg, Blackburn won the league, their chairman at that time, Jack walker, was skint....

  • @eL--RaL
    @eL--RaL 4 дні тому +3

    Most co rrupt league in football history dealing with the most di sgustingly co rrupt club in football history..The irony .. Embarrassing

    • @Bert-lw1ot
      @Bert-lw1ot 4 дні тому +4

      Just ignoring the fact other leagues bribe refs? I’m not sure if your bias outweighs your sadness. Either way, you’re obsessed

    • @LudiCrust.
      @LudiCrust. 4 дні тому

      They’ve been bribing league officials for a long time now. When was it 3-4 years ago when City’s most egregious cheating was exposed (when they started cheating literally the day after Pep was hired)? They had definitive hard evidence (caught red handed) so how was that not an immediate slam dunk? City came out and said they challenge every motion & bury the league in millions of pounds of debt through lawyer/legal fees. It’s comical City haven’t been held to account.

    • @eL--RaL
      @eL--RaL 4 дні тому +1

      @@Bert-lw1ot Yeah like how your clubs from top to bottom are CH EATS!!! Anyone can list the sca ndals of each and every one of them..Co rrupt sell out league

    • @eL--RaL
      @eL--RaL 4 дні тому +1

      ​@@Bert-lw1ot You can list ch. eats from top to bottom in this league.. Embarrassing..co rrupt sell out league

    • @jamjam2833
      @jamjam2833 4 дні тому

      @@eL--RaLwatch ya Spanish shi te then, you’re obsessed with this league 😂

  • @chrismooney3715
    @chrismooney3715 4 дні тому

    City failed in a whole host of other challenges and only won on three. The word ‘pyrrhic’ sums it all up. Database is fair enough but talk about pot, kettle, black for the EPL missing the timeframe (similar to never declaring emails for some of the 115). Big change is interest free loans from owners will fall under the same rules as fair sponsorship price. What’s comical is City - and 18 other clubs - initially voted for this rule to be excluded so have done a face turn. Also, it will have to be put to a vote yet. Not quite the huge ‘win’ being reported.

    • @brianshockledge3241
      @brianshockledge3241 4 дні тому +3

      What part of proving the rule changes are ILLEGAL are you not grasping?

    • @bluemoon1716
      @bluemoon1716 4 дні тому

      You do realize that the independent panel found that the prem broke their own rules and were found to having acted in an unfair and unlawful manner

    • @chrismooney3715
      @chrismooney3715 3 дні тому

      @@brianshockledge3241 I never said some of the accusations were not just not all. It’s similar to suing someone for unfair dismissal, expecting £200K and winning £25K. You won but minor. Then I refer you again to read my original comment on how frivolous and hypocritical it all is.

    • @brianshockledge3241
      @brianshockledge3241 3 дні тому

      @@chrismooney3715 Hamstringing certain clubs with frivolous illegal rules but then allowing other clubs insider interest free loans is certainly hypocritical.

  • @whitekoala4172
    @whitekoala4172 4 дні тому +1

    Simon is the most insufferable character

  • @stacksflat7482
    @stacksflat7482 4 дні тому

    Not son is definitely pro 115labour party FC

  • @CH-vh1sw
    @CH-vh1sw 4 дні тому

    It’s ridiculous that the premier league is being painted as the villain for wanting to stop oil states sports-wash their image in the league.

    • @brianshockledge3241
      @brianshockledge3241 4 дні тому

      First of all the American owned clubs are orchestrating this civil war which is backfiring on them and their premier league mouthpieces badly. Secondly Manchester City takeover was through banking having Arab, American and Chinese owners doesn`t make them an oil state. Apart from that you`re spot on???

    • @stanh8071
      @stanh8071 4 дні тому

      Just wait until the 115 report comes out and the e mails evidence from the red cartel are known.
      A snäppet. " they are terrorist the owners of city. By a director of an american owned red shirted cartel club"
      The said club should be thrown out of football laaaa

  • @jackdominiak445
    @jackdominiak445 4 дні тому

    City, Newcastle & Chelsea should be kicked out of the league, unless the agree to abide by the rules!
    These 3 guys are now talking a load of cr.p!
    Sounds as though City are greasing a load of hands 😡

    • @archivalhorror
      @archivalhorror 4 дні тому +1

      LOL Considering that Newcastle haven't broken any rules at all, this smells like fear.

    • @Burds01
      @Burds01 3 дні тому

      Tell me what rules Newcastle have broken ? Also City have just won a case to show one of the rules isn’t fit for purpose!

    • @KH-xv5gm
      @KH-xv5gm 3 дні тому

      What rules have Newcastle broke?? Idiot!!!

  • @LordHighness
    @LordHighness 3 дні тому

    🤡-"But..... but..... but....cArTeL!" 😭

  • @tommaxwell7643
    @tommaxwell7643 4 дні тому

    If it's such a monumental thing it should be held in public for the good of the game.

    • @GWJUK
      @GWJUK 4 дні тому +1

      What a naive outlook devoid of the real world

  • @Redballoon99
    @Redballoon99 3 дні тому

    CITY LOST, ATP will continue
    23 of 25 lost by city, 23 of 25 won by the prem. read the report, and the only unlawful aspect was that ATP allowed interest free loans to yourself. so not only will ATP stay it will actually become more strict thanks to this case. Hope that helps.

  • @Lowkey_AFC
    @Lowkey_AFC 3 дні тому

    Salty fan bases especially Arsenal coming to a realisation that city are actually gonna win this case because they didn’t actually do anything illegal, this was just all hope and wishful thinking from rivals wanting city to be convicted so they minimise pep’s achievements, pathetic instead of being greatful the guys literally changed world football and especially English football he’s improved the way the games being played and your just all salty because you can’t beat him, well how about not bottling 8 point leads and handing him the title maybe just maybe we would of beating instead you all wanna blame him for winning.