ZTE is the worst offender I've come across, the 3 lower end ZTE phones I've had never got any updates but an even cheaper Cubot phone I had got 4 updates!
3:45 second's you got a video thumbs up. Doesn't surprise me since I love your channel and willingness to help people. Thanks for explaining Project Tremble.
i know most of it but I learn new things on this video.. Android really is the boss in mobile OS you just know how to use it.. Moto E5 Supra (plus) support treble according to the app.
This is really great! Here in Brazil LG G6 from VIVO company is unROOTable due to LG's restriction to its bootloader, unfortunately. I am still thinking in sell my G6 only because of this ridiculous position from LG in avoid people to ROOT your phone >.
I have LG v20... This phone not support this type of modifications.. I don't know if get Oreo update from LG developer's or not .. but the question is if the phone get Oreo update it will be supporting modifications?
There are 2 steps of software modification: 1. for hardware compatibility 2. for OEM custom skin project treble separates those 2 layers so it eliminates step 1 completely... so the stock Android image for that hardware is available almost instantly.... and for the official OEM update it eliminates the first step and they just have to work on their skin not the entire compatibility of the phone.... So it could cut the time Samsung takes to update their software in half... and it is much easier for developers to create custom ROMs
Looking forward to try this on my S9+ Duos once I need it. Always wondered what the main advantage of the S9 series over the predecessor was and Project Treble seems to be it since performance and especially storage has not really changed.
Also a bit of a noob to Android inner workings but is project treble dependent at all on Google play services ? Meaning would micro G and a custom rom kill it ? Not sure if project treble is baked into Android or more of a Google play services added on to Android
This video just sold me on the one plus pro vs pixel 4 lol thanks to gsi / any better phone that support gsi like this super helped me witha purchasing decision I've been making long story short you just killed a galaxy anything and the one plus allowing unlock bootloader's really caught my ear . I'm a iOS user who has always had a slight interest in Android and I'm about to hop ship due to my changing philosophy on how software should be and how iOS just isn't that I don't like being put in a garden and told what to do and I like Android openness but I value software updates and didn't want to take off the shackles of apple to be under Google's heel for software updates lol and custom ROMs and this project treble SCREAM FREEDOM.
Max, I have SM-G955U AT&T that is still running on android 7 . The phone is unlocked and I'm not in the USA. I can't find Android Oreo on Sammobile for my device.
Hi bro I totally fell in love in your style of presenting the new material so I subscribe from UA-cam channel fucking fucking love you man!!! voice input, no offence
Ok, so I have a snap dragon note 10 plus unlocked. I used the app to check if my phone has this capability. It does, but I only have 1 portition and I read you need 2 in order to work.
Max do you think the S10 will be worth it without 5g or should I wait for the phone that Sammy will make specifically for 5g? Do you think that phone will be a flagship too?
Hey max , can you recommend Samsung galaxy s8 screen replacement as I broke mine but not sure what to buy ? I am going to replace it myself and need tools to do so. Your input would be very much appreciated.
After installing a GSI will you get OTA’s of the generic OS straight from google? Becouse thats how it should happen if not then we are ways away from celebrating
My Moto G6 Play says it supports Project Treble, but Seamless System Updates are unsupported because my phone only has one partition table and it needs an A and B partition table to be seamless.
So, let me be sure if I understand it correctly. Regarding custom ROMs and project treble, flashing a custom ROM won't be any different, I mean, take backup, wipe, clean flash and all.. The difference project treble is gonna make is that new custom ROMs won't be device specific and if I have project treble enabled device, I don't have to wait developers to develop custom ROM particular to my device? Did I understand it correctly?
Gabrielus It is not "Samsung is being lazy", It is actually very easy to implement project Treble to any device running Oreo and up. The problem is when there isn't a specific partition for /vendor stuff. You have to Repartition your device, which can be very risky because the phone may not even boot after that(Hard Brick). Although some devices have gotten Unofficial Treble Support, they use some other partition that isn't used much or at all. In S8's case that might be impossible because it already would have happened.
I start to have enough with Bixby which want me to run Upday and Spotify while I am not using them. I use Deezer or Cobuz for listening music. I am ready to take off to a new world by rooting my Note 8. But I have to see your video one more time. I just wanna be sure I shall use the pen and Note again.
You look so different. Great video as usual. I currently have a Mate 10 alp29 and I love the camera more than the phone itself. Can you suggest a phone that I could replace it with that has an equal or better camera that this would work on. Another big gripe I have is curved viewing angles... I can't put a screen protector on this stupid phone and Huawei have clamped down on bootloaders!! Please help.
I don't think 6P is supported actually for Project Treble but it is easy to unlock the bootloader and install Android P. I will have a video on that sure.
Hi freind, I have an official project tremble in my OnePlus 5t ( latest update oos 5.1.5).. If i wenna install android pie is necessary to flash a costume rom with treble support like mokee or not ?!!
Project Treble ONLY will help custom ROMs for the phone makers nothing will change, all the Project Treble ready phone are still far from official Pie and for the normal user nothing will change
"Samsung updates slower the everyone else." LG:Hold my beer.
Yeah, I got a G6 and still haven't gotten Oreo (but everyone else has?) I think mine is bugged because people got theirs a few months ago ;(
@@zamblot3324 even s7 got Oreo...
Holly Hsieh ik, the G6 has got it anyway... My one hasn't but everyone else's has ;(
Bodacious T may be due to the region which the phone is from, the region you live in or the carrier you got your phone from
ZTE is the worst offender I've come across, the 3 lower end ZTE phones I've had never got any updates but an even cheaper Cubot phone I had got 4 updates!
Finally someone stepped it up and explained it for us. Thanks Max.
@@BuckeyeShawn007 but you do, don't you?
Fried rice dude, fride rice
@@BuckeyeShawn007 what
3:45 second's you got a video thumbs up. Doesn't surprise me since I love your channel and willingness to help people. Thanks for explaining Project Tremble.
So this is what you do when you're not acting in tokyo drift?
Yes my other hobby is playing with my smartphones. But don't tell everyone my secrets. Thx.
My cheap Xiaomi redmi note 5 pro says it's a pixel XL after flashing the PR1 GSI 🤔😂
do you mean "Setting up the pixel ?" I guess its because Pixel is made by google???
"Place your finger on the back of the phone" for fingerprint sensors that are on the front/side. ;)
Finally.. i was so confused by these articles on xda lol..waithing for the gsi installation video..thanks max
I'm glad to see you on my feed again like I use to back in the root my Android days
i know most of it but I learn new things on this video.. Android really is the boss in mobile OS you just know how to use it.. Moto E5 Supra (plus) support treble according to the app.
This is really great! Here in Brazil LG G6 from VIVO company is unROOTable due to LG's restriction to its bootloader, unfortunately. I am still thinking in sell my G6 only because of this ridiculous position from LG in avoid people to ROOT your phone >.
Yeah it is getting ridiculous manufacturers trying to lock bootloader, which is original feature of Android.
I would love to install TouchWiz on my LG V20. All that's left is to swap out the LCD for AMOLED and I got my makeshift Samsung V20 😆.
I have LG v20... This phone not support this type of modifications.. I don't know if get Oreo update from LG developer's or not .. but the question is if the phone get Oreo update it will be supporting modifications?
There are 2 steps of software modification:
1. for hardware compatibility
2. for OEM custom skin
project treble separates those 2 layers so it eliminates step 1 completely... so the stock Android image for that hardware is available almost instantly.... and for the official OEM update it eliminates the first step and they just have to work on their skin not the entire compatibility of the phone....
So it could cut the time Samsung takes to update their software in half... and it is much easier for developers to create custom ROMs
Great project, thanks for the info!!!
"Helooo my Brother I like the way you Explain...+ you speaking English..." I have already subscribed...'
Very well explained. Thanks max!
WOW....THIS IS GONNA BE A GAME CHANGER IN XDA FORUMS. THANK YOU FOR THE VIDEO MAX.
Before treble,How did google phones get the updates quicker without having the updated codes from the manufacturers??????
Looking forward to try this on my S9+ Duos once I need it. Always wondered what the main advantage of the S9 series over the predecessor was and Project Treble seems to be it since performance and especially storage has not really changed.
Perfectly explained, even for dummies like me.. love you Max 🙏
Thanks for the explanation and lesson sensei Max :)
Also a bit of a noob to Android inner workings but is project treble dependent at all on Google play services ? Meaning would micro G and a custom rom kill it ? Not sure if project treble is baked into Android or more of a Google play services added on to Android
The 5t doesn't support seamless system updates bc it only has one one set of partition (slot A), it needs A and B.
Best explanation so far. Thank you.
Can project treble enabled by custom rom
This video just sold me on the one plus pro vs pixel 4 lol thanks to gsi / any better phone that support gsi like this super helped me witha purchasing decision I've been making long story short you just killed a galaxy anything and the one plus allowing unlock bootloader's really caught my ear . I'm a iOS user who has always had a slight interest in Android and I'm about to hop ship due to my changing philosophy on how software should be and how iOS just isn't that I don't like being put in a garden and told what to do and I like Android openness but I value software updates and didn't want to take off the shackles of apple to be under Google's heel for software updates lol and custom ROMs and this project treble SCREAM FREEDOM.
my device is listed on supported project treble devices but when i use the treble checker it says it's not compatible.
Max, I have SM-G955U AT&T that is still running on android 7 . The phone is unlocked and I'm not in the USA. I can't find Android Oreo on Sammobile for my device.
Yeah AT&T stock firmwares are usually hard to find.
Hi bro I totally fell in love in your style of presenting the new material so I subscribe from UA-cam channel fucking fucking love you man!!! voice input, no offence
Good video and information, well done.
Great detail. And always awesome videos.
Waiting for the next guide video.Please link it in the description.
Nice job by the way..
Ok, so I have a snap dragon note 10 plus unlocked. I used the app to check if my phone has this capability. It does, but I only have 1 portition and I read you need 2 in order to work.
I tried few gsi on my op5t. They feels buggy and some app crashes . Flashing a custom rom is still a better option.
Yeah for 5T GSI seems unstable.
GSI guide!!!! Looking forward.
Do you have a video for installing TWRP on one plus 3t ?🤔 For rooting purposes ?🤔
+Max Lee Aha!! The Fried rice, fried rice, fried rice air quotes are hilarious😂😂
Max do you think the S10 will be worth it without 5g or should I wait for the phone that Sammy will make specifically for 5g? Do you think that phone will be a flagship too?
how did you install pie gsi on your oneplus 6?many people says it can only install oreo gsi for now,is there a complete written guide?
Hey max , can you recommend Samsung galaxy s8 screen replacement as I broke mine but not sure what to buy ? I am going to replace it myself and need tools to do so. Your input would be very much appreciated.
Very cool I can't wait until the future of Android stop waiting for updates from carriers and Samsung LG Etc.
Yes updates should be quicker.
@@BIGMACMCDONALDLEE 👍
Cool, I got my Android fix! Thx 😎
So instead of samsung rewriting the whole new OS, they will just add there modifications to the new Android OS right?
do you need vendor.img to flash gsi? because i dont have it
What about older phones like the Nexus 5 would it be easier to get 9.0 or they are going to be left out?
Yeah they all get easy updates using custom ROMs so Project Treble really benefits non Nexus/Pixel phones most.
I need this android P on my S9 Plus now
Don't let him distract you from the fact that Android15.0 gonna be ZEBRA 🦓
its here :)
After installing a GSI will you get OTA’s of the generic OS straight from google? Becouse thats how it should happen if not then we are ways away from celebrating
My Moto G6 Play says it supports Project Treble, but Seamless System Updates are unsupported because my phone only has one partition table and it needs an A and B partition table to be seamless.
You can still use GSI whether a or ab.
Do you think Samsung will ever split from Android to use their own OS most likely being Tizen?
The project problems is ROM is not good on my galaxy note 3 found ROM in youtube I can try it the ROM is full of problems OK max Lee
Yes I wish this was something they did in the beginning.
Maaaan I wish the s8 was included in project treble :(
Awesome information . Great explanation as well.
i have the samsung galaxy j7 prime phone. i wanna put 9.0 pie OS on my phone. it currently has 8.0 oreo. is it easy to do this?
so if my oneplus one is not treble enabled is it going be like that forever ??? ... or there will be ways to make my opo treble enabled ??
fried rice lol 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂 suprb explanation man. waitin fr the installation video.
Do u have redmi 4X
So if we update with a gsi do we keep the all the OnePlus features and Samsung features?
Slime no. You get stock Android P
Plz look for google camera , in a3 2017 exynıs edition android 8 not installing error
This is a screenshot i.hizliresim.com/2a4G0E.jpg
My umidigi C Note is still only running Android 7.1
Love your content dude !
Thanks!
Treble check said LGV30 is not supported... Not surprised. Patiently waiting on my Note 9 512GB, due on 09/20...
So, let me be sure if I understand it correctly. Regarding custom ROMs and project treble, flashing a custom ROM won't be any different, I mean, take backup, wipe, clean flash and all.. The difference project treble is gonna make is that new custom ROMs won't be device specific and if I have project treble enabled device, I don't have to wait developers to develop custom ROM particular to my device? Did I understand it correctly?
Yup exactly.
Max Lee thanks 😊
No for sprint phone ??
Do we need wait 7 days if we mess something up in this project again ?
Why my Galaxy S7 Edge does not support Project Treble !? 😭😪
Did lg v20 will get Oreo update
I have a OP6 max. Is there any idea when I can get android P 9.0 on it? Thanks in advance and brilliant video again btw
How do you install Treble and Pie on Note 4?
Can i install s9 rom on a oneplus 6
BROTHER WHY DINT U THANKED THE DEV
WHO MADE THESE CUSTOM GSI?
My phone has seamless update can u explain that to me please?
When does treble start or has it already started
Layering fried rice seems like a bad example lol... you're eating with old rice in the bottom 🤣
Rip s8 users such as myself ♥️
Rightt!!...
Android P is coming out on the S8. This at least gives us a small chance that treble is supported (Sammy may be too lazy to implement it)
Gabrielus It is not "Samsung is being lazy", It is actually very easy to implement project Treble to any device running Oreo and up. The problem is when there isn't a specific partition for /vendor stuff. You have to Repartition your device, which can be very risky because the phone may not even boot after that(Hard Brick).
Although some devices have gotten Unofficial Treble Support, they use some other partition that isn't used much or at all. In S8's case that might be impossible because it already would have happened.
One year later, running Android 10 on my s8 with a stable rom. Don't lose hope 😄
@@nevin3543 that being the exynos version 😭😭
my 6p is not in the list :(
He explains what treble is half way through.
Help... My Galaxy Note 8 doesn't gave treble support... Wtf its a flagship and doesn't support treble #exn
Noooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!”
Same here 😕
You abused the "air quotes" bruh
Correction, I MUTILATED air quotes, chopped it up into little pieces, then flushed it down the toilet. 🤯🤯🤯
But how can i make a non project treble ready phone (Xperia z3), be treble ready?
U cant
Yup unfortunately you can't. 😭😭😭
I rooted my s7 edge T-Mobile successful but I don't see the point. Since I can't install custom rom or is they anything good I can do with it?
Just debloat it get rid of the Samsung and TMobile Apps and install Pixel Launcher! Enjoy!
Please make video on installing GSI.. waiting eagerly
I start to have enough with Bixby which want me to run Upday and Spotify while I am not using them. I use Deezer or Cobuz for listening music. I am ready to take off to a new world by rooting my Note 8. But I have to see your video one more time. I just wanna be sure I shall use the pen and Note again.
So early it's only 360p :(
Ryan Jack is it possible for me to find a new galaxy s9 plus with the new OS on it?
@@dontaebelcher5016 I'm not sure man Samsung take so long.
Thank You Broo
Yes if you have international Exynos or Qualcomm.
You look so different.
Great video as usual.
I currently have a Mate 10 alp29 and I love the camera more than the phone itself. Can you suggest a phone that I could replace it with that has an equal or better camera that this would work on.
Another big gripe I have is curved viewing angles... I can't put a screen protector on this stupid phone and Huawei have clamped down on bootloaders!!
Please help.
plz make a video of how to install gsi on oneplus 5t
Nice explanation.. Thanx.. 😃
I have a note 3 neo in 2018....Am I out of luck...??
@Shaquir Bourjolly but it still works fine...
Do you know if it's working for Oreo on Nexus 6P?
I don't think 6P is supported actually for Project Treble but it is easy to unlock the bootloader and install Android P. I will have a video on that sure.
Hi max is this possible on note 8?
so beautifully explained..
Ze552kl what to do?
Hi freind,
I have an official project tremble in my OnePlus 5t ( latest update oos 5.1.5)..
If i wenna install android pie is necessary to flash a costume rom with treble support like mokee or not ?!!
I think OnePlus 5T isn't Project Treble compatible yet but soon with an update. Let me double check when I get home, typing from the golf course ATM.
Thanks lee, I'm waiting for ur answer..
Project Treble ONLY will help custom ROMs
for the phone makers nothing will change, all the Project Treble ready phone are still far from official Pie and for the normal user nothing will change
Thanks for clearing that up. To bad my Note 8 doesnt support treble. Im going to buy the international version.
I have a Samsung galaxy s6 edge on lineage android nougat 7.1.2 and I want to get official nougat 7.0 on it any ways to do it?
Just flash stock firmware with ODIN.
@@BIGMACMCDONALDLEE ok should I use sammobile to download my official firmware
Hahahaha, ah man I was following along so well until the part about fried rice 😄
Does this mean that some one will develop a GSI for older phones??...or will the older smartphones get killed off faster?
If manufacturers support it but I doubt it since their goal is to make you buy more phones every year.
@@BIGMACMCDONALDLEE take a look at this minefield
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Can Project Treble downgrade android 11 to android 10?
Could you port lineageos 15.1 or 16.0 or 16.1 for micromax a177 mt6572 kernal version 3.4.5 android version 4.2.2 , armv7
Can you make it???👍👍
good content and good job keep up 👍👍
Quite easy to understand.